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Who wins?

theyd ragestomp onslaught, unless he had franklin's powers to use.

Onslaught > Emma

could Onslaught use some type of psi attack?

i really don't know how this would go. without frank he's def screwed, but at the height of his power.....? shrug

^He never really demonstrated any big feats even with Franklin's power from what I recall. On that note, I'd be willing to equate him to Tiamut-powered Sinister who managed to overwhelm the P5, and was only defeated when the Phoenix Force's core self manifested its true power and wiped him out.

he created a second sun or something?

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
managed to overwhelm the P5, and was only defeated when the Phoenix Force's core self manifested its true power and wiped him out.

sort of exactly what I was thinking, given what I've heard about P5

Originally posted by 753
he created a second sun or something?
Pretty much.

Originally posted by 753
he created a second sun or something? He also unleashed teh giant EMP!!

Originally posted by Galan007
He also unleashed teh giant EMP!!
EMPs are Phoenix-smashers. That alone guarentees Onslaught a 9/10 win here.

i'm leaning towards onslaught.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
EMPs are Phoenix-smashers. That alone guarentees Onslaught a 9/10 win here.

This guy gets it!

If Onslaught does this:
http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15650201_xmen5517.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15650202_xmen5518.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15650203_xmen5519.jpg

The P5 die, or are, at the very least, depowered.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
EMPs are Phoenix-smashers. That alone guarentees Onslaught a 9/10 win here.



Here's what I never got about the whole EMP thing, not long before that Jean had just been in the heart of the sun and did this.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-InAUvcqOZHw/TefI9UJRKCI/AAAAAAAAG8M/Z-Htg2ZwHrc/s1600/gold5.jpg

I'm certain the sun produces EMP's stronger than ANYTHING Mags could create.

Originally posted by Galan007
This guy gets it!

If Onslaught does this:
http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15650201_xmen5517.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15650202_xmen5518.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15650203_xmen5519.jpg

The P5 die, or are, at the very least, depowered.

I still remember the first time I read that comic. One of my earliest "holy shit" moments.

Originally posted by celestialbodies
Here's what I never got about the whole EMP thing, not long before that Jean had just been in the heart of the sun and did this.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-InAUvcqOZHw/TefI9UJRKCI/AAAAAAAAG8M/Z-Htg2ZwHrc/s1600/gold5.jpg

I'm certain the sun produces EMP's stronger than ANYTHING Mags could create. well xorn was amped by kick. I still think morrison ****ed up though

Originally posted by 753
well xorn was amped by kick. I still think morrison ****ed up though
Yup. Phucked up big time.

Even before that, here is Jean Phoenix diving into the core of a star and making it go nova then devouring it :
http://sequart.org/images/from-the-Dark-Phoenix-saga-2.jpg
WTF would a "planetary level stroke" do to someone that can devour novas?

onslaught with ease 9/10

he really doesnt

he really does

nah

yah

the phoenix 5 were inadequate host, Onslaught takes this.

so what? they were still trans level beings who could kick the phuck out of thor individually. OS will not be mindraping them either.

Originally posted by 753
so what? they were still trans level beings who could kick the phuck out of thor individually. OS will not be mindraping them either.


so what are you implying? that onslaught was below trans?

I'm not implying. I'm stating they're more powerful than him. even giving onslaught the benefit of being ranked as trans there are still 5 of them and 1 of him.

yea and ALL of the x men and hulk and avengers and everyone was fighting onslaught..... how did that turn out?

they won when mindless hulk shattered his shell and a bunch of people entered his "perceptive reality" stage of development, though IIRC, they had a narrow time window to get that done before he grew stronger.

of course, none of them were close to the P5 in power and onslaught's shenanigans only reached the threat level they did because of his ursupation of franklin's powers.

but thats the reason we turn off pis and cis onslaught has to llose he cant destroy man kind so he has to lose without them "overloading" him he destroys everyone he'd wreck this team

not really. onslaught's only chanceare franklin's powers, which op didnt mention, but even with them, he did nothing that csomically impressive.

did u read those comics u did absorb franklin which in it self is a feat and nate... he took out two very strong heralds if onslaught were actaully allowed to win he would have crushed everyone hes just the bad guy hes not allowed

Phoenix 5 for the rape. Gangbang prison style.

Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
did u read those comics u did absorb franklin which in it self is a feat and nate... he took out two very strong heralds if onslaught were actaully allowed to win he would have crushed everyone hes just the bad guy hes not allowed absorbing them is a feat? nate grey was quite incompetent at that point and franklin was a scared child. psionically dominating them doesnt mean he was actually more powerful than either at first.