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Who wins?

Teen Titans 10/10.

Captain America via stompage.

^Absolutely no reason to believe cap beats this team even once. Take any 2 team members out and he still loses. Of course we all know exactly why srank has to take cap over them in spite of all logic....

Originally posted by namorsubby
^Absolutely no reason to believe cap beats this team even once. Take any 2 team members out and he still loses. Of course we all know exactly why srank has to take cap over them in spite of all logic....



The 80s Titans were a team of feat-less bumbling rookies.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin


The 80s Titans were a team of feat-less bumbling rookies.
facepalm

He couldnt take most of these characters indiviually. Your refusal to acknowledge common sense is quite astounding.

Originally posted by namorsubby
He couldnt take most of these characters indiviually. Your refusal to acknowledge common sense is quite astounding.

facepalm

What are you talking about? This is the Titans circa the 1980s. Captain America would run ragged over all of them in the 80s, they only had four - five years worth of feats, and nothing impressive. Nothing they've done since then is relevant to this thread.

Most of these characters with their power sets will beat captain america individually. Nothing you say can make that untrue.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Most of these characters with their power sets will beat captain america individually. Nothing you say can make that untrue.

Maybe now, but not in the 80s... which is what this thread is asking. facepalm

Maybe youre grasping because youre obviously wrong.

Read the title of the thread please.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
facepalm

What are you talking about? This is the Titans circa the 1980s. Captain America would run ragged over all of them in the 80s, they only had four - five years worth of feats, and nothing impressive. Nothing they've done since then is relevant to this thread.
Starfire would alone beat cap. Your hate for deathstroke is strong.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Starfire would alone beat cap. Your hate for deathstroke is strong.

1980s Starfire wouldn't beat Cap.

80s Cyborg destroys Captian America by himself.

Originally posted by complexbrother
80s Cyborg destroys Captian America by himself.



Go get your long boxes out and read some Titans back issues to see how absurd that statement is.

Cap would run ragged over the 80s Teen Titans so hard they would think they were the 90s New Warriors.

Lol youre delusional.


Cyborg>cap

Starfire>cap

Raven>cap

Kid Flash>cap

Originally posted by namorsubby
Lol youre delusional.


Cyborg>cap

Starfire>cap

Raven>cap

Kid Flash>cap



My god. So uninformed.

Is this Current Cap or 80's version of Cap?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
1980s Starfire wouldn't beat Cap.
Yes she would.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes she would.

Get your long boxes out at look at her feats from the 80s. I'll wait.

Originally posted by cdtm
Who wins? Teen Titans roflstomp.

I think its so cute how Srank has the upmost confidence in his own selfcreated logic......but that doesn't change the fact that hes dead wrong.

TT 10/10 without a doubt. Moving on.....

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Get your long boxes out at look at her feats from the 80s. I'll wait.
No need to. I've read enough to know that it would only take a single star bolt to KTFO cap. Its cute though how you think only you know about something.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No need to. I've read enough to know that it would only take a single star bolt to KTFO cap. Its cute though how you think only you know about something.



80s Starfire couldn't hit Cap with a starbolt if her life depended on it. Maybe you should stick to lowballing Thor and fellating Superman, because you are out of your depth here.

Shed hit him with it alright.....then hed die(because hes not as durable as Slade and cannot regenerate from fatal injury like Slade).

Originally posted by namorsubby
Shed hit him with it alright.....then hed die(because hes not as durable as Slade and cannot regenerate from fatal injury like Slade).



Yeah, Cap the guy who can keep fighting after eating machine gun fire to his torso WITHOUT his armor (remind me... what happened to Slade when Deadshot shot him in the chest? Oh, that's right), survived a bullet to the head and just recently ripped Zola out of his chest and carried on like it was nothing. Yeah, he can't regenerate from a fatal injury. dur

She'd never hit him. If it got close to him, he'd block it, and if by some miracle it hit him, he'd be fine, Cap's taken far worse than a starbolt from 80s level Starfire and kept fighting.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin


80s Starfire couldn't hit Cap with a starbolt if her life depended on it. Maybe you should stick to lowballing Thor and fellating Superman, because you are out of your depth here.
80's starfire saved Lightray who is FTL btw before he could react.

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16032289_Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_135.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16032290_Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_136.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16032291_Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_137.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16032292_Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_138.jpg

Now argue that cap is FTL too.

Maybe you should stick to debating how wolverine can't be shot in the eye.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin


Yeah, Cap the guy who can keep fighting after eating machine gun fire to his torso WITHOUT his armor (remind me... what happened to Slade when Deadshot shot him in the chest? Oh, that's right), survived a bullet to the head and just recently ripped Zola out of his chest and carried on like it was nothing. Yeah, he can't regenerate from a fatal injury. dur

She'd never hit him. If it got close to him, he'd block it, and if by some miracle it hit him, he'd be fine, Cap's taken far worse than a starbolt from 80s level Starfire and kept fighting.
Your cap wanking is flat out ridiculous. What's next, cap vs superman?

Originally posted by abhilegend
80's starfire saved Lightray who is FTL btw before he could react.

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16032289_Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_135.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16032290_Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_136.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16032291_Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_137.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16032292_Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_138.jpg

Now argue that cap is FTL too.

Maybe you should stick to debating how wolverine can't be shot in the eye.

You think that's an FTL feat? Guy, there is a count down to the bomb going off in the seconds... if that was an FTL feat it wouldn't have got to from 3 to 2 in the count down. Elektra has better speed feats than that. facepalm

Originally posted by abhilegend
Your cap wanking is flat out ridiculous. What's next, cap vs superman? Yeah, Hes a lunatic.

Starfire blows cap to smithereens. The others stay home and watch 80s music videos.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You think that's an FTL feat? Guy, there is a count down to the bomb going off in the seconds... if that was an FTL feat it wouldn't have got to from 3 to 2 in the count down. Elektra has better speed feats than that. facepalm

Elektra has better speed feat than reacting to rescuing FTL guys before they could react? It was to show that she could react faster than Lightray, a legit FTL being. Your cap and elektra love is amusing though.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Elektra has better speed feat than reacting to rescuing FTL guys before they could react? It was to show that she could react faster than Lightray, a legit FTL being. Your cap and elektra love is amusing though.

There is a time line provided in the scans that shows CLEARLY that neither of them were moving anywhere near light speed during the example you posted, so whether he is capable of that speed normally or not, is completely irrelevant to the example at hand.

Elektra has better feats of moving around in between the seconds of a counting down bomb clock, which is what the feat you posted is.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Get your long boxes out at look at her feats from the 80s. I'll wait.

Rofl.. Ure a Jerk. This had me rollin.. "Get your long boxes out..."

I actually pictured that in my head..

lol1

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
There is a time line provided in the scans that shows CLEARLY that neither of them were moving anywhere near light speed during the example you posted, so whether he is capable of that speed normally or not, is completely irrelevant to the example at hand.

Elektra has better feats of moving around in between the seconds of a counting down bomb clock, which is what the feat you posted is.

Lateral movement and reflex speed are two different things. Starfire reacted faster than Lightray. There is no denying that.

She also defeated entire Themysicra.

http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae155/dpVolacdp/NewTeenTitans013-05.jpg
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http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae155/dpVolacdp/NewTeenTitans013-09.jpg

You are just trolling at this point.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Lateral movement and reflex speed are two different things. Starfire reacted faster than Lightray. There is no denying that.


I'm aware... but what does that have to do with feat in question? There is a quantifiable time line provided in the scan that pretty definatively shows they weren't even moving mach speed, never mind light speed, so I'm really confused as to what your the point is. That Starfire can move faster than a jobbed out Lightray? Okay... sweet? Now what?

Originally posted by abhilegend
http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae155/dpVolacdp/NewTeenTitans013-05.jpg
http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae155/dpVolacdp/NewTeenTitans013-06.jpg
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You are just trolling at this point.

She beat a handful of nameless Amazon fodder in a tournament! I guess you are right, she beats Cap no problem!!!! dur

Seriously? This is the best you can come up with...

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'm aware... but what does that have to do with feat in question? There is a quantifiable time line provided in the scan that pretty definatively shows they weren't even moving mach speed, never mind light speed, so I'm really confused as to what your the point is. That Starfire can move faster than a jobbed out Lightray? Okay... sweet? Now what?



She beat a handful of nameless Amazon fodder in a tournament! I guess you are right, she beats Cap no problem!!!! dur

Seriously? This is the best you can come up with...

She oureacted a legit FTL guy. What's mor to that feat? Nothing. Your version of jobbing doesn't compute.

FYI those amazons are class 80 characters. Much more than cap here. She has also defeated Donna Troy in combat who is a legit class 100. What have you brought here? Snark and lowballing?

Originally posted by abhilegend
She oureacted a legit FTL guy. What's mor to that feat? Nothing. Your version of jobbing doesn't compute.

FYI those amazons are class 80 characters. Much more than cap here. She has also defeated Donna Troy in combat who is a legit class 100. What have you brought here? Snark and lowballing?

She outreacted him by using sub-mach speeds... so what exactly do you want me to take away from that?

Except the Crisis retcon'd the Amazon's so no they weren't class 80 characters.

Black Canary has beaten Amazons during the 70-80s. Just to clarify.

And Cap has solo'd all kinds of trolls/elves/demons from the various Asgardian realms.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
She outreacted him by using sub-mach speeds... so what exactly do you want me to take away from that?

Except the Crisis retcon'd the Amazon's so no they weren't class 80 characters.

She reacted faster than Lightray. She has also blitzed Dr. Light who is anothet lightspeed being.

Except even after crisis a random amazon drew even with Donna Troy who is a legit class 100 and Artemis drew even with wonder woman. Starfire defeated Donna in combat too.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Black Canary has beaten Amazons during the 70-80s. Just to clarify.

And Cap has solo'd all kinds of trolls/elves/demons from the various Asgardian realms.

Inconsistencies like that are part of the reason the Crisis happened.

Post crisis Amazon's with a few exceptions around peak human - slight superhuman. Not class 80.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Black Canary has beaten Amazons during the 70-80s. Just to clarify.

And Cap has solo'd all kinds of trolls/elves/demons from the various Asgardian realms.
Black Canary has defeated Superwoman and drew even with Donna Troy during that time too.

Except this isn't a fodder troll/demon team, this is one of the most efficient team in DCU. Heck nearly every member of this team would beat cap. Also I just found this out, starfire is immune to pressure points

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=jrctqr&s=5

What is cap going to do to beat her? Punch her out?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Inconsistencies like that are part of the reason the Crisis happened.

Post crisis Amazon's with a few exceptions around peak human - slight superhuman. Not class 80.

Not really.

Not really. Nearly every amazon is class 80.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Black Canary has defeated Superwoman and drew even with Donna Troy during that time too.

Except this isn't a fodder troll/demon team, this is one of the most efficient team in DCU. Heck nearly every member of this team would beat cap. Also I just found this out, starfire is immune to pressure points

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=jrctqr&s=5

What is cap going to do to beat her? Punch her out?

All I'm saying is that Kory beating random Amazons isn't a huge feat. It's impressive enough that it further verifies her skill and warrior upbringing, but Dinah has schooled Amazons. And I have no doubt that Cap would solo a great deal of no-name Amazonian warriors considering he's solo'd swarms of mythical fodder beings before and actually has wins over legitimate characters in addition to being able to humble Class 100s (your mileage may vary).

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not really.

Not really. Nearly every amazon is class 80.

Not really...what? That the Crisis wasn't partly designed to clear up inconsistencies?

Not sure if I believe it based on the WW stuff I've read. Is there even anything remotely close to feats showcasing random Amazonians being upwards of possessing 80 ton super strength?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not really.

Not really. Nearly every amazon is class 80.

Based on what exactly? Certainly not feats.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also I just found this out, starfire is immune to pressure points

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=jrctqr&s=5
While I know about her physiology-based immunity to pressure points, first time I realized he was bear-hugging her in those first 2 panels. That lucky perv...

Cap could definitely take down Robin.

Perhaps he could take down Raven or Changeling if he moved fast enough.

Starfire and Cyborg would be a little harder ...



It might be a good idea to show Cap's initiation into the Avengers. Think he took on most of the team to prove himself worthy of leadership back in the day.

Slade took on a much more powerful Teen Titans roster than the one listed here a few years ago. Just before Loeb/Waid Supergirl joined the roster.

Handled an amazing number of them, partly because he was able to use their power against them. Cyborg's sonic cannon comes immediately to mind. Think with Dick Grayson and Beast Boy (Changeling) Slade just knocked their heads together as they tried to hold onto him ...

Cap's on record for knocking out the Absorbing Man, Crusher Creel, in one-on-one battle, though Crusher Creel has gone toe-to-toe with Thor and Hulk. Cap's gone against Hulk, too. I seem to remember a case where he actually took the Hulk down, actually; partnering with a young Spider-Man to do so ...

Remember this is just the 80s Teen Titans. Nothing after the 80s is relevant and half the off the stuff from the 80s is itself irrelevant due to the Crisis. To pretend that Cap doesn't have the feats to beat 1980s Titans is frankly asinine.