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No TP for Aquaman.
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/AR_zpsb8ec0c7a.jpg

vs

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/AQ_zps731a899d.jpg

Really?

Good fight. Stalemate 5/10.

Hasnt Aquaman shown to be stronger than Ares? I dont remember many Ares feats.

^ He doesn't have many (if any) straight lifting feats, but Ares is strong enough to fight Immortal Hercules for an entire comic. Strength really isn't the overriding issue. Even if Aquaman is stronger, Ares' healing factor, damage soak, viciousness and fighting acumen are more than enough to even it out.

Ares wins. If Aquaman hits Ares with the trident, with his damage soak and healing factor he'll survive, but the same could not be said of Aquaman if Ares clipped him with his axe. Since this is going to be a bloody close combat fight, his immortality wins it for him.

Aquaman, if he has the Trident

Aquaman has the edge stat wise, but Ares has the healing factor and the experience.
Both of them have unbreakable weapons so no advantage there (unless you consider the reach of the Trident)

I believe slight advantage to Aquaman due to stats and consistency (New 52).

That said I hate how Marvel Ares is not on the level he should be (equal to Thor or at least closer than he was).

I don't believe Aquaman has the stat edge. Not after the push Ares received. He can job but it's pretty clear that he wasn't far off someone like Hercules.

And if his healing factor is played up, I don't know how Aquaman can put him down. His trident can impale him right through the chest but that won't stop Ares, but an axe through the chest will incapacitate Arthur.

I remember the push Ares got, like when he beat A-Bomb. And that was step in the right direction.

You might be right, but I wish we had seen most of that. The strength difference might be inconsequential no matter who has the edge.
Although I believe AQ is faster and more mobile.

Anyway strength I don't believe is the deciding factor here.

I still think AQ has a slight edge due to speed but if he can't KO Ares with the Trident he will eventually loose. But I believe AQ will be able to KO Ares even if it takes a headshot or something similar.

Neither do I.

This fight really depends on which Ares we use. If we use the version that appeared in the min-series by Oeming for example? Imho he would rape Aquaman, especially since he had Wolverine-like damage soak on top of his godly stats. F*ck man, that mini was awesome, I recommend you read it if you haven't.

He really didn't beat A-Bomb, he threatened him with his axe and that basically was it. The fight from what I remember was Ares grabbed him and threw him to the ground and then threatened him with the axe.

He definitely punked A-Bomb pretty hard but he didn't finish him off.

Ares did well against Skaar as well, hell, he matched his strength.

Ah OK. I remember he had somehow physically subdued A-Bomb.

And yeah Rage I really like Ares and want him to be shown as a god and not some brick to fill some roster. I also have read a 5 parter (I think) mini. It must be the one from the Oeming.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He definitely punked A-Bomb pretty hard but he didn't finish him off.


He punked Xman as well.

Yeah, X-man had trouble countering him.

He ripped a portal through time and space as well:
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The X-men also had to resort to Valkyrie getting a power-up from Hela because no one on their roster could stop Ares. Poor Colossus, he was stuck fighting Venom because Ares would push his shit in. Forever B-list.

Ares was more impressive here then I remembered:
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I also remember him overloading Rogue's power. He also did pretty decent against Thor around Blood and Thunder.

Hmm, I change my mind, Ares at his best would have a clear strength edge as well.

Good scans Rage.

Never seen this before but apparently Ares got a few hits in against Sentry besides what we saw:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=12547584

Takes on Skaar and Wolverine:
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z259/almightykfish/th_Aresskaar1.jpg http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z259/almightykfish/th_Aresskaar2.jpg http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z259/almightykfish/th_Aresskaar3.jpg

Btw Carver, I'm getting all of this from his respect thread so credit to the original guys who posted this.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Neither do I.

This fight really depends on which Ares we use. If we use the version that appeared in the min-series by Oeming for example? Imho he would rape Aquaman, especially since he had Wolverine-like damage soak on top of his godly stats. F*ck man, that mini was awesome, I recommend you read it if you haven't. That version of Ares woulda taken the pain to Thor, ffs. Being set on fire and catapulting him into Mikaboshi's forces, engaging Mikaboshi in H2H side-by-side with Hercules (at that point, Mikaboshi was doing stuff like murdering Zeus), punking Phobos with pure skill who had sliced through his throat with Grasscutter...

... he was insane in that mini-series.

Originally posted by ODG
That version of Ares woulda taken the pain to Thor, ffs. Being set on fire and catapulting him into Mikaboshi's forces, engaging Mikaboshi in H2H side-by-side with Hercules (at that point, Mikaboshi was doing stuff like murdering Zeus), punking Phobos with pure skill who had sliced through his throat with Grasscutter...

... he was insane in that mini-series.

Yeah, Ares was the real God of War in that mini.

Never seen this before but Ares apparently hurt Mikaboshi with his axe:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/2/23374/2139322-chaos_war___ares_023.jpg

That's pretty crazy, anyone remember where that's from? F*ck Aquaman, even Wonder Woman wouldn't want to fight Ares at his A-game.

^ Chaos War: Ares #1.

Stalemate

Good fight, edge to Ares.

I feel that if it came down to a who kills who first, Aquaman goes down even if he inflicts some vicious damage with the trident.

Ares for now.

Bump

Another year of New 52 Aquaman.

AM

Aquaman has really gone up in the straight up strength and durability department. In trinity war he was doing stuff like shrugging off sucker punches from J'onn and shit. What he did to Ocean Master was ****ing ridiculous in damage soak and power.

Aquaman wins.

Originally posted by carver9
Aquaman wins.
I had a feeling you'd pop up.

Aquaman IS pretty impressive in his own series but then you compare him to solo series Ares......

I think, Aquaman is more consistent at this point (Benefits of a strong editorial hierarchy I guess) but Ares is still just better so I guess my opinion hasn't really changed. srug

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Aquaman IS pretty impressive in his own series but then you compare him to solo series Ares......

I think, Aquaman is more consistent at this point (Benefits of a strong editorial hierarchy I guess) but Ares is still just better so I guess my opinion hasn't really changed. srug

I followed Ares and I honestly don't know why you are saying he is better. Aquaman is being compared to the strong men of DCNU.

Split. Incredibly close call here.

Yes, Aquaman was compared to the strong men of DCnU. Ares was compared to Thor (we need a Thor/Wolverine on our team), was fighting alongside Hercules (who, for all his goofiness, is legit strong) and fought Skaar pretty well.

Very close, good fight.

Originally posted by carver9
I followed Ares and I honestly don't know why you are saying he is better. Aquaman is being compared to the strong men of DCNU.
Strength is not the only factor. Anyways, are you saying he's a top tier strength in New 52?

Times have changed. Aquaman is more consistent across the board. He wins. Adding his trident makes it even more in his favor, IMO.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Aquaman, if he has the Trident

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Strength is not the only factor. Anyways, are you saying he's a top tier strength in New 52?

Don't know why he wouldn't be based off his showings. Rocking Superman, overpowering Wonder Woman, defeating and enraged Hercules, then, his lifting fts. What more can you ask for?

Originally posted by carver9
Don't know why he wouldn't be based off his showings. Rocking Superman, overpowering Wonder Woman, defeating and enraged Hercules, then, his lifting fts. What more can you ask for?
Looking that way.

LOL, so is there any actual REASON for AM getting stronger, or just because? Those crazy DC (Damn Clones) Editors, get closer to Superman, but doesn't go over.

Gotta say I loved what they had been doing with Ares I wish they would bring him back to those levels again or that we could see more of him.

His mini was amazing.

Ares.

Originally posted by carver9
Aquaman wins.

That push is how ares should of always been. A god of war with wolverine level heling factor , High level martial arts(training phobos to fight gorgon), and power to tranverse dimensions