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To the death. Bloodlusted.

Fight in nuketown.

Savage Hulk would be a good fight but given how Surfer always dominates against him, I'm pretty certain StarDust wouldn't be at that much less of an advantage against Savage Hulk.

SD wasn't physically over powering BRB, so energy attacks and drainage would seem his only avenue and those would only work on Savage Hulk ...

SD vs Savage Hulk: SD for about 6-7/10 imo.
SD vs Green Scar @ "WWH" levels: Green Scar 8/10.
SD vs Green Scar @ "WBH" levels: Green Scar 10/10 and very easily at that.

Can't imagine WBH level Green Scar being at all affected by anything SD can do.


The one caveat is whether "death" really means death, because we know Hulk is "functionally immortal", but not sure about StarDust.

SD has the path of least resistance to get the job done. For Hulk, it'd be considerable more difficult considering that blunt force is pretty much his only weapon here.

Originally posted by dmills
SD has the path of least resistance to get the job done. For Hulk, it'd be considerable more difficult considering that blunt force is pretty much his only weapon here.
That's not really ever been a problem with Hulk though. His "one dimension" is pretty effective against anything and everything.

Whereas, aside from energy drainage, I don't see any physical attacks from StarDust having similar effect on Savage Hulk.

I know Surfer has tonnes of other means of nullifying Hulk, but SD hasn't really shown that kind of power, versatility, finesse or scale.

Originally posted by janus77
That's not really ever been a problem with Hulk though. His "one dimension" is pretty effective against anything and everything.

Whereas, aside from energy drainage, I don't see any physical attacks from StarDust having similar effect on Savage Hulk.

I know Surfer has tonnes of other means of nullifying Hulk, but SD hasn't really shown that kind of power, versatility, finesse or scale.
Didn't she open up a giant @$$ black hole that tore a hole in reality and let an Elder Demon out?

She could do the same thing again and how would the Hulk defend against it?

Originally posted by zopzop
Didn't she open up a giant @$$ black hole that tore a hole in reality and let an Elder Demon out?

She could do the same thing again and how would the Hulk defend against it?
S/he did? I don't recall that, would like to see the scans.

Hulk would be just fine with that though, having already survived an exceptionally powerful blackhole (one that knocked Surfer unconscious for a week), at the start of Planet Hulk.

There's also the whole Heroes Reborn(Return?) business, for which I can't seem to find the scan. Where Hulk literally was an anchor point between two universes, with the energy from Franklin's universe flowing out of him or some such ... Basically a phenomenal feat of endurance.

He'd punch it, obviously.

Originally posted by NemeBro
He'd punch it, obviously.
Hey if Hulk's punches can fix the TimeStorm, then why not?

And anyway, RSH can punch through a dimension, it's not much of a stretch (at all).

Hulk

Originally posted by janus77
S/he did? I don't recall that, would like to see the scans.
Originally posted by Dark Urizen
k...

BRB and SD first meet.
http://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1stormbreaker01208rs.jpg

http://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2stormbreaker01213of.jpg

BRB is knocked out. SD isn't.

SD then proceeds to go through "1 million miles of debris" so speed is...well.....pretty good.

Lasers also don't bother him.

http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3stormbreaker02081pg.jpg

Second fight:

http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4stormbreaker02233wd.jpg

Both BRB and Skuttlebutt attack him at the same time. He doesn't seem phased. Skuttlebutt's lasers are potent enough to injure BRB.

http://img470.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5stormbreaker03022hb.jpg

http://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?image=6stormbreaker03035jp.jpg

"massive ammounts of cosmic radiation"
http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=7stormbreaker03040yi.jpg

Evenly matched:
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BRB starts to go apeshit:

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Hardcore

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Pure cosmic energy
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Fast enough to dodge Stormbreaker
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http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15stormbreaker03180no.jpg

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He can warp space
http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=astormbreaker03207cq.jpg

Impressed yet?
http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=qstormbreaker0321226jg.jpg

They release Asteroth from that dimension. Asteroth is a multiverse-devourer. Sort of a god of chaos.

So they ally to defeat Asteroth. Here's BRB holding Asteroth down, while Stardust flies straight into the planet, all the way to the core, making it explode.

http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wstormbreaker414150ky.jpg

http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dstormbreaker416170kw.jpg

Here's Stardust creating a black hole.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/preacherofnothing/tStormbreaker418.jpg

That's pretty much all we see of Stardust in the Stormbreaker Saga.

Pretty nice huh?

Oh, and one more present for DigiMark from issue 6 of the Saga:

http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rrrrstormbreaker6120hr.jpg


I was wrong, Stardust's warped space, that's what freed the Elder Demon. But then later it opened up a black hole and banished that supposed multiversal devourer into it.


Scans? Was it really a black hole or some sort of space warp? I seem to remember that was debated here a year or two ago.

Stardust is a pure energy being and hulk has gripped and manipulated energy with his bare hands. I can see him winning this unless SD resort to bfring.

I don't think a being that's been tore to a billion pieces by Galactus can die...

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I don't think a being that's been tore to a billion pieces by Galactus can die...

Meanwhile, we know that even the best Hulk can be Silva'd, isn't that right branny?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I don't think a being that's been tore to a billion pieces by Galactus can die...

Understandable but SD has been temporarily put out of commision before...it took a lot of power to achieve this but he has fallen before (enough for it to be a 10 count win).

Originally posted by Zack Fair


To the death. Bloodlusted.

Fight in nuketown.

Aaaahhhh, well, its a stalemate then.

Can Hulk put Stardust permanently down--kill her? And Vice-verse. Can Stardust kill Hulk without the later recovering?Originally posted by carver9
Aaaahhhh, well, its a stalemate then. Kays.

Your pictures show WWH...don't know what can kill him and I don't think Stardust could die either.

Yeah. You're all free to debate any version you want. Just make sure you specify each one.

Stardust drains him then blows up Banner

Originally posted by carver9
Stardust is a pure energy being and hulk has gripped and manipulated energy with his bare hands. I can see him winning this unless SD resort to bfring. Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I don't think a being that's been tore to a billion pieces by Galactus can die... Originally posted by carver9
Understandable but SD has been temporarily put out of commision before...it took a lot of power to achieve this but he has fallen before (enough for it to be a 10 count win). Originally posted by Zack Fair
To the death. Bloodlusted.

Fight in nuketown. Originally posted by carver9
Aaaahhhh, well, its a stalemate then.

laughed my dick off

I'd bet on Hulk under Pak-ish levels beating Stardust. But I don't think Hulk could ever actually kill it.

What is Stardust up to these days?

if stardust is unkillable, why make a match "to the death"? As far as draining hulk's energy, it's been tried before and didnt really do anything iirc

Becaause Hulk can be considered "unkillable" as well.

And you know, the same people who argue that SUperman can't kill SD will also argue that Hulk can because..he is ...Hulk

As for the thread, SD wins

Actually they haven't?

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Becaause Hulk can be considered "unkillable" as well.

that is true.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Actually they haven't? Wait what...

Originally posted by xJLxKing
And you know, the same people who argue that SUperman can't kill SD will also argue that Hulk can because..he is ...HulkDunno bout that..

Originally posted by xJLxKing
As for the thread, SD wins

Hulk eats Stardust. His stomach > Superman. Obviously.

Stalemate.

Hulk punches him out of existence.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I don't think a being that's been tore to a billion pieces by Galactus can die...

Surfer was torn to hundreds of pieces and didn't die.
We have artistic license here. In the BRB fight I'm pretty sure the writer wrote SD with the ability to die.

Originally posted by h1a8
Surfer was torn to hundreds of pieces and didn't die.
We have artistic license here. In the BRB fight I'm pretty sure the writer wrote SD with the ability to die.

Actually, Stardust specifically says in God Hunter that Bill cannot slay him or whatever.

Originally posted by h1a8
Surfer was torn to hundreds of pieces and didn't die.
We have artistic license here. In the BRB fight I'm pretty sure the writer wrote SD with the ability to die. I was unaware that Stardust died in the BRB fight. Scans?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I was unaware that Stardust died in the BRB fight. Scans?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I was unaware that Stardust died in the BRB fight. Scans?

I was unaware as well. But SD could have died though based off how the writer showed Bill treating him.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Actually, Stardust specifically says in God Hunter that Bill cannot slay him or whatever. Macho talk.
In Butterfly and Sword the general says, "You can't penetrate my super armor".
Yet it was penetrated.

Originally posted by h1a8
I was unaware as well. But SD could have died though based off how the writer showed Bill treating him.

What?

He was being sarcastic, we know that Stardust didn't die. facepalm

This is getting kinky

Originally posted by h1a8
Macho talk.
In Butterfly and Sword the general says, "You can't penetrate my super armor".
Yet it was penetrated. lol so basically you just didn't read the brb/stardust comic to even use that analogy....

Originally posted by h1a8
Macho talk.
In Butterfly and Sword the general says, "You can't penetrate my super armor".
Yet it was penetrated.

Actually based on what we've seen, it's not just shit-talking but very much the truth.

Stop trolling and read the comic. For all the damage Bill did, he couldn't kill Stardust.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What?

He was being sarcastic, we know that Stardust didn't die. facepalm

It's called reverse sarcasm. It is the perfect defense against sarcasm.

Originally posted by h1a8
I was unaware as well. But SD could have died though based off how the writer showed Bill treating him. Did that second part make sense to you when you wrote it?
Yes the writer showed Bill treating her with all sorts of wife beating power. But Stardust didn't come anywhere close to dying.
The writer didn't show a buttlicking squirrel shit anything about her being able to die.

Then there's the part where Galactus tore her to billions of pieces, absorbed all the energy present, and she still reformed.

So, shut up

bran and h1 need to have a battlezone

That'd solve nothing. H1 can't even prove that Hulk has ever had an ongoing, let alone anything pertaining to a debate

Originally posted by h1a8
It's called reverse sarcasm. It is the perfect defense against sarcasm. If you understood anything you're talking about maybe.

You have no proof again, yet you're making claims. Big surprise.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Did that second part make sense to you when you wrote it?
Yes the writer showed Bill treating her with all sorts of wife beating power. But Stardust didn't come anywhere close to dying.
The writer didn't show a buttlicking squirrel shit anything about her being able to die.

Then there's the part where Galactus tore her to billions of pieces, absorbed all the energy present, and she still reformed.

So, shut up

Surfer got torn to pieces as well and survived.
If we take the Galactus feat as truth then you are right.
But if we consider the Bill showing AND Galactus not knowing SD would reform (he created her for crying out loud) then we get stupidity.

Originally posted by h1a8
Surfer got torn to pieces as well and survived.
If we take the Galactus feat as truth then you are right.
But if we consider the Bill showing AND Galactus not knowing SD would reform (he created her for crying out loud) then we get stupidity. Surfer's also been killed numerous times. Stardust hasn't.

If we take the Bill showing as proof, then I guess Stardust is immortal. Congrats for proving shit.

Galactus not knowing if Stardust would reform is completely irrelevant considering she did.
And you're also blatantly lying again.
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Get your filth out of my face. It's like you look at a scan thoroughly and say to yourself "How can I misinterpret this to piss people off"

lmao

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Surfer's also been killed numerous times. Stardust hasn't.

If we take the Bill showing as proof, then I guess Stardust is immortal. Congrats for proving shit.

Galactus not knowing if Stardust would reform is completely irrelevant considering she did.
And you're also blatantly lying again.
http://i39.tinypic.com/xng86t.jpg

Get your filth out of my face. It's like you look at a scan thoroughly and say to yourself "How can I misinterpret this to piss people off"

Hulk can grab and touch energy so he could potentially beat up Stardust, but if Stardust plays it smart Hulk won't get a chance to hit him.

Really think the Hulk grabbing energy thing is being hyped a little too much.

He can canonically do it though. But that wouldn't grant him the win here.

Yeah I know he has done it. Not trying to take it away from him.

Hulk can touch Stardust, the fact that he reforms doesn't mean that he's untouchable. BRB grabbed and held him.

Stardust still wins though. Has him in every category but strength.

I looked up Sd and some feats not bad. Fight is to the death so its kinda onesided sd cant die hulk can.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Really think the Hulk grabbing energy thing is being hyped a little too much. Quit downplaying it.

Originally posted by zopzop
Scans? Was it really a black hole or some sort of space warp? I seem to remember that was debated here a year or two ago.
It's depicted as a wormhole in Planet Hulk. And Hulk is explicitly stated to be the only one ever to have remained conscious when journeying through it.

Surfer, later on, states that it is a portal whose "pull" he could have escaped but was instead knocked out unconscious by.

Surfer, ofcourse, can tank blackholes/wormholes, regularly, but this one is extremely powerful and so he was KOed.

Hulk too was debilitated, he lost his natural imperviousness and was finding it very difficult to amp on Sakaar, but eventually as the Green Scar persona began to form, he became even stronger than he had been before entering Sakaar.

This energy thing shouldn't be an issue.

And I don't think the thread-started intended for this to be "Stardust can't be touched, he wins"

StarDust can evade Hulk most of the time. The Green Scar's ThunderClaps would knock him unconscious, but this is "to the death".

I think aside from the higher end of Green Scar's attacks, SD will stalemate this.

Only if Hulk goes about obliterating everything (which he would do at "WBH" levels) is it a complete wash for Hulk.

Bloodlusted Stardust would destroy the planet. Hulk cant do anything in the middle of space, only be a easy target.

Several planet bust attack level would do nothing to Hulk ? How this is a Stalemate.

Stardust tanked a lot of attacks from a non holding back BRB. I dont think a Hulk Thunderclap = BRB non holding back attacks, faster than light hammer toss, planetary explosions, etc.

has anybody ever fought hulk in space?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Hulk can grab and touch energy so he could potentially beat up Stardust, but if Stardust plays it smart Hulk won't get a chance to hit him.
When did the Hulk "grab energy", not that it matters here since BRB was grappling with Stardust so that means she can be physically assaulted.

Lot's of times people post things out of context. Like the time Hulk grabbed Dr' Strange's astral form. People were saying Hulk could hit intangible objects but it turned out that was only possible because they were in a Strange Matter universe where things were so dense it even gave form to Dr. Strange's soul self.

Originally posted by janus77
That's not really ever been a problem with Hulk though. His "one dimension" is pretty effective against anything and everything.

Whereas, aside from energy drainage, I don't see any physical attacks from StarDust having similar effect on Savage Hulk.

I know Surfer has tonnes of other means of nullifying Hulk, but SD hasn't really shown that kind of power, versatility, finesse or scale. Stardust absorbed and redirected the last of his species' energy forms into Galactus to sustain him.

this seems a bad match for hulk imo. i def think sd can hurl enough damage to ko him before hulk takes sd down. course, depends which hulk but i think wwh and down versions lose this almost every time.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Surfer's also been killed numerous times. Stardust hasn't.

If we take the Bill showing as proof, then I guess Stardust is immortal. Congrats for proving shit.

Galactus not knowing if Stardust would reform is completely irrelevant considering she did.
And you're also blatantly lying again.
http://i39.tinypic.com/xng86t.jpg

Get your filth out of my face. It's like you look at a scan thoroughly and say to yourself "How can I misinterpret this to piss people off"

I didn't lie. Obviously I didn't read the comic nor seen the scan you just posted before. Can you be so kind as the give the issue number to that comic(s).

Never used the word "lie" out of context. Purpose is everything.

But I still feel the way the writer depicted Bill to beat down SD implied that the writer in question believed that SD could die.

Literally took years for him to admit he didn't bother to read the comic he adamantly debated against

Lawlz.