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Who wins?
No prep..





Fight 1.
No prep..
No B.F.R..






Fight 2.
No prep..
With B.F.R on..




Classic Strange

Vs

Superman

Superman

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Superman



Even in boths fights?

Yes.

Unless Superman stands there and lets him BFR him

The way Superman fights, and his huge vulnerability to magic means Strange gets a number of wins in either fight.

Strange tells Superman that he could end this fight with but a gesture and gets punched in the face mid-sentence.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Strange tells Superman that he could end this fight with but a gesture and gets punched in the face mid-sentence.

Probably how it'd go down.

Originally posted by KingD19
The way Superman fights, and his huge vulnerability to magic means Strange gets a number of wins in either fight. The way Superman fights beings with shields involves a shit ton of smashing before they know what's going on...

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Strange tells Superman that he could end this fight with but a gesture and gets punched in the face mid-sentence. ROFL.

Fists > Everything.

Law of comics.

Strange easy in both

Supes easy in both

The fact is in a forum fight, Strange is the most powerful sorcerer on the planet. And Superman's greatest weakness aside from Kryptonite is magic.

Strange will definitely take some wins.

Superman wins. Strange is mid Herald.

But he has spells at a level which will clearly hurt Superman. As just recently he was nearly cut to ribbons by magical teeth from a witch.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Strange tells Superman that he could end this fight with but a gesture and gets punched in the face mid-sentence.
Originally posted by carver9
Superman wins. Strange is mid Herald.


What is going on in this thread?

Originally posted by carver9
Superman wins. Strange is mid Herald. classic strange is not mid herald noob

Noob!!!! LoL

Paper beats rock.

Magic beats Superman.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman wins. Strange is mid Herald.

This is Classic Strange, the guy that could beat Skyfather-level beings, hold the IG in check, knock Galactus unconscious, etc. This is not current Strange, who has received one of the bigger depowerings in comic history.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Probably how it'd go down.

Probably NOT how it would go down. Superman doesn't fight like that, especially against someone who is not evil.

Originally posted by Digi
This is Classic Strange, the guy that could beat Skyfather-level beings, hold the IG in check, knock Galactus unconscious, etc. This is not current Strange, who has received one of the bigger depowerings in comic history.
You are going to get bran'd digi.

Strange.

Strange with any kind of prep, wins.

Superman's only chance is speedblitz.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You are going to get bran'd digi.

I fear no retribution.

Close fight. Edge to Strange due to Superman's magical vulnerability I guess.

Originally posted by Digi
I fear no retribution.




Get em Bran.

Originally posted by Digi
I fear no retribution.


You will.

I've had this discussion before. Probably more than once. I know that Strange has low feats, feats without his auto-shield, feats that place him below Thor or Surfer, even in his Classic incarnation.

I also know that Kal's magic weakness is often overstated; that it exists, but isn't the insta-win Superman detractors think.

But I think that if we take an intelligent Strange that is utilizing the powers in his toolbox, and grant some kind of edge to Strange due to the magic weakness, that he wins. It doesn't take a simultaneous high-balling of one and low-balling of another. Just a well-rounded Strange using his full arsenal.

Or maybe Superman rage-punches his way through everything. It's comics, so it's certainly possible. Or maybe we grant Kal a speedblitz, before Strange can invoke any of his time manipulation spells or other defenses. I don't see it as the likeliest outcome, but it's certainly possible.

That better?

Originally posted by Digi
This is Classic Strange, the guy that could beat Skyfather-level beings, hold the IG in check, knock Galactus unconscious, etc. This is not current Strange, who has received one of the bigger depowerings in comic history. He's been owned by many more Skyfather level characters than vice versa. In fact, he hasn't really beaten many skyfather level characters if at all, and even rarer without a plot device outside his power in a thread like this.

The IG was only using one gem at a time. And Strange had every artifact at his disposal.

Galactus was on the verge of death and was almost getting matched by Thor the entire fight. He was rapidly shrinking the whole time and Strange got him at his weakest. Then we have their "fight" where Galactus wasn't trying at all. Then he knocked him out because Strange couldn't handle the images Galactus flooded his mind with. Then in subsequent issues Strange was panicking when Galactus was fighting Agamotto and was a flea next to them, and he got knocked out easily by Khoon (who Galactus assimilated easily). Strange is nothing to Galactus.

But you pretty much described Superman. Minus the 'depowering'
Strange might seem like a PIS god at times, but Superman invented PIS in comics. The guy T-vo'd Dominus who was capable of easily dismissing Kismet at the time who at the very least is on the level of Nabu (skyfather level). Darkseid fiascos, etc.

At the end of the day, shields in comics seem to piss Superman off enough to attack them full force. Strange's shields have consistently been broken by beings lesser than Superman. And Superman definitely has the strength to KO Strange. As well as speed has been a factor many times for Strange.
It's a wash.

The only chance Strange has is if speed is equalized. And that's not me assuming Superman is a blitz God either. It's just that even his basic attacks are too quick for Strange. And he's not exactly hard to dodge either.

That scan beatdown Bran posted in the Ownage thread went ahead and changed my mind. If nothing else, I'm not ready to go to bat against someone who is obviously more prepared than I. I know there's a counter-argument to be made, but it's not something I want to take the time to craft.

Originally posted by Digi
I've had this discussion before. Probably more than once. I know that Strange has low feats, feats without his auto-shield, feats that place him below Thor or Surfer, even in his Classic incarnation.

I also know that Kal's magic weakness is often overstated; that it exists, but isn't the insta-win Superman detractors think.

But I think that if we take an intelligent Strange that is utilizing the powers in his toolbox, and grant some kind of edge to Strange due to the magic weakness, that he wins. It doesn't take a simultaneous high-balling of one and low-balling of another. Just a well-rounded Strange using his full arsenal.

Or maybe Superman rage-punches his way through everything. It's comics, so it's certainly possible. Or maybe we grant Kal a speedblitz, before Strange can invoke any of his time manipulation spells or other defenses. I don't see it as the likeliest outcome, but it's certainly possible.

That better?
Oh I agree. But if you're going about beating skyfathers and whatnot route, you're against the wrong guy. Strange beats skyfathers by prep or some kind of plot device. Superman? He just powers through and bashes their faces in. Here is superman vs a guy with the powers of several elder gods who folded entire JLA like nothing and earlier dismissed Zauriel's holy sword

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_54.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_55.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_56.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_57.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_58.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_59.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_60.jpg

Or oneshotting abstract death who destroyed whole creation just pages earlier to break superman's will

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supersting-58.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supersting-59.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supersting-60.jpg

That's just two of such examples. He has many such feats.

Superman

Strange with prep

Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh I agree. But if you're going about beating skyfathers and whatnot route, you're against the wrong guy. Strange beats skyfathers by prep or some kind of plot device. Superman? He just powers through and bashes their faces in. Here is superman vs a guy with the powers of several elder gods who folded entire JLA like nothing and earlier dismissed Zauriel's holy sword

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_54.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_55.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_56.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_57.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_58.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_59.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_60.jpg

Or oneshotting abstract death who destroyed whole creation just pages earlier to break superman's will

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supersting-58.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supersting-59.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supersting-60.jpg

That's just two of such examples. He has many such feats.

And Strange has localized time stops, reality manipulation, and defenses/attacks against similarly powered beings. And Superman's magic weakness does exist in some form. It's all in how you see the fight going down.

I think the prevailing wisdom is that Strange wins with prep. Depending on what we grant as standard equipment, I think he still has an edge sans prep. But it's not a 10/10 scenario. Or rather, there's too many permutations of how their powers could interact to say it's 10/10 either way with any certainty.

Originally posted by Digi
And Strange has localized time stops, reality manipulation, and defenses/attacks against similarly powered beings. And Superman's magic weakness does exist in some form. It's all in how you see the fight going down.

I think the prevailing wisdom is that Strange wins with prep. Depending on what we grant as standard equipment, I think he still has an edge sans prep. But it's not a 10/10 scenario. Or rather, there's too many permutations of how their powers could interact to say it's 10/10 either way with any certainty.
Superman has overpowered outright time-stop from waverider

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supermanwaverider1.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supermanwaverider2.jpg

Superman has resisted reality manipulations from beings far more powerful than Strange like Dominus. His shields would be broken against superman, lets be serious.

Magic weakness? Didn't help mordru much when Superman punched his teeth out

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/POWER%20DISPLAY%20VS%20MAGICK/th_Lo3w04Page005SURVIVESVSOLDMORDU.jpghttp://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/POWER%20DISPLAY%20VS%20MAGICK/th_Lo3w04Page005SURVIVESVSOLDMORDU2.jpg

Oh strange would win with prep. Without prep it can go either way.

Superman

Strange, easily.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh strange would win with prep. Without prep it can go either way.

I'll agree with this.

Originally posted by Digi
I'll agree with this.

Without prep, Superman speedblitzes to crush Strange's hands (hey, worked for Hulk, and w/o the speedblitz).

With prep, would be a good comic fight. Strange probably gets the better of Superman, but as the fight drags on, Supes gets closer to victory.

Originally posted by Digi
And Strange has localized time stops, reality manipulation, and defenses/attacks against similarly powered beings. And Superman's magic weakness does exist in some form. It's all in how you see the fight going down.

I think the prevailing wisdom is that Strange wins with prep. Depending on what we grant as standard equipment, I think he still has an edge sans prep. But it's not a 10/10 scenario. Or rather, there's too many permutations of how their powers could interact to say it's 10/10 either way with any certainty.



This fight can go many ways since Superman doesn't kill and wouldn't know how much power to apply in the beginning (Strange is really a human with shields). Here is how the fights can go in general.

1. Superman using speed and bashing Strange with the correct amount of force right away. But the problem is that Superman doesn't know how much power to apply. So luck would play a role here.

2. Superman underestimating Strange's shields or playing with him to gauge his power level, giving Strange time to manipulate time, space, reality, etc.

Strange's stronger shields is through prep.
His autoshields are something that Superman on average can bypass only if Superman can find out how much force to apply without killing Strange (again Superman knows that Strange is a human).
But since this is guess work then Strange will gain at least a second or two to operate. So fight can go either way with Superman probably edging Strange out in a slight majority of all the possible battles.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh I agree. But if you're going about beating skyfathers and whatnot route, you're against the wrong guy. Strange beats skyfathers by prep or some kind of plot device. Superman? He just powers through and bashes their faces in. Here is superman vs a guy with the powers of several elder gods who folded entire JLA like nothing and earlier dismissed Zauriel's holy sword

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_54.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_55.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_56.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_57.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_58.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_59.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_60.jpg

Or oneshotting abstract death who destroyed whole creation just pages earlier to break superman's will

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supersting-58.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supersting-59.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supersting-60.jpg

That's just two of such examples. He has many such feats.

Weren't you the one saying that Fernus would be Surfer because of his ability to go intagible? If it's that easy, then Strange goes intangible and unleashes hell on Superman.

Looks like you are changing the rules of engagement just because you are now arguing for Superman. How come Superman didn't just "punch out" Nekron since he can punch out abstracts? And as far as plot devices, Superman is the biggest living plot device in the history of all comics and many Superman fans admit to that when they say "He's as strong as the story needs to be."

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Weren't you the one saying that Fernus would be Surfer because of his ability to go intagible? If it's that easy, then Strange goes intangible and unleashes hell on Superman.

Looks like you are changing the rules of engagement just because you are now arguing for Superman. How come Superman didn't just "punch out" Nekron since he can punch out abstracts? And as far as plot devices, Superman is the biggest living plot device in the history of all comics and many Superman fans admit to that when they say "He's as strong as the story needs to be."
Superman can tag intangible beings with HV.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_HVIntangible1.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_HVIntangible2.jpg

What is your point here? That superman doesn't go punching out abstracts and shit?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Probably NOT how it would go down. Superman doesn't fight like that, especially against someone who is not evil.

Superman only punches villains in the face?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Weren't you the one saying that Fernus would be Surfer because of his ability to go intagible? If it's that easy, then Strange goes intangible and unleashes hell on Superman.

Looks like you are changing the rules of engagement just because you are now arguing for Superman. How come Superman didn't just "punch out" Nekron since he can punch out abstracts? And as far as plot devices, Superman is the biggest living plot device in the history of all comics and many Superman fans admit to that when they say "He's as strong as the story needs to be." Bingo.

Dr. Strange takes the majority.

Strange wins.

Superman.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Superman. Based on ?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman has overpowered outright time-stop from waverider

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supermanwaverider1.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supermanwaverider2.jpg

Superman has resisted reality manipulations from beings far more powerful than Strange like Dominus. His shields would be broken against superman, lets be serious.

Magic weakness? Didn't help mordru much when Superman punched his teeth out

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/POWER%20DISPLAY%20VS%20MAGICK/th_Lo3w04Page005SURVIVESVSOLDMORDU.jpghttp://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/POWER%20DISPLAY%20VS%20MAGICK/th_Lo3w04Page005SURVIVESVSOLDMORDU2.jpg

Oh strange would win with prep. Without prep it can go either way.

Doesn't look like time stopped for Superman. Waverider froze everyone except Superman.

Originally posted by carver9
Doesn't look like time stopped for Superman. Waverider froze everyone except Superman. Superman had help against Mordru as well. He conveniently ignores that.

Originally posted by carver9
Doesn't look like time stopped for Superman. Waverider froze everyone except Superman.
Waverider froze entire place.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Waverider froze entire place.


Where was this stated.? Show a scan of Waverider freezing everything because it doesnt seem like he was stopped time on Superman.

Rage, need you bro. Come in here and dissect this scan for me.

Originally posted by carver9
Where was this stated.? Show a scan of Waverider freezing everything because it doesnt seem like he was stopped time on Superman.

Rage, need you bro. Come in here and dissect this scan for me.
Everybody was freezed. Superman noticed it and speeded himself to counter it. Did you even read the scan?

Lulz.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Waverider froze entire place.

So you have proof that Superman was suppose to be frozen as well because again, I don't see it in the scans you posted.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Superman only punches villains in the face?

Superman typically does not go all out with a millisecond speed blitz on a foe he doesn't know. If that were the case, Superman titles would be three or four panels long and would cost about 35 cents.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman can tag intangible beings with HV.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_HVIntangible1.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_HVIntangible2.jpg

What is your point here? That superman doesn't go punching out abstracts and shit?

Oh, Superman goes around doing a ton of unexplainable chit. That's pretty much the basis of the character. However, there are tons of examples of inconsistency just like any other character. In the example I used, Superman was completely useless.

As far as using his heat vision to hit intagible beings (LOL) if Superman can do it, then Surfer can do it, probably to a more effective level since he is superior in the EP department.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Superman typically does not go all out with a millisecond speed blitz on a foe he doesn't know. If that were the case, Superman titles would be three or four panels long and would cost about 35 cents.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Superman

Originally posted by carver9
So you have proof that Superman was suppose to be frozen as well because again, I don't see it in the scans you posted.
Yes. Read the scan and find out yourself.Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Oh, Superman goes around doing a ton of unexplainable chit. That's pretty much the basis of the character. However, there are tons of examples of inconsistency just like any other character. In the example I used, Superman was completely useless.

As far as using his heat vision to hit intagible beings (LOL) if Superman can do it, then Surfer can do it, probably to a more effective level since he is superior in the EP department.
So we're just throwing out superman's showings here? Good to know.

Take your surfer butthurt to another thread. This isn't the thread with surfer.

Originally posted by carver9
So you have proof that Superman was suppose to be frozen as well because again, I don't see it in the scans you posted. If waverider had intended not to freeze superman, he would have spoken with superman and explained himself right away.

Lol at you guys passing it as evidence as clark outright resisting time froze when it clearly appeared he was singled out as the only one unaffected in that scan.

Carver's right this time.

Doesn't it also feel like the feats being posted are more selective toward Kal than Strange? I mean, I get that there are a few on a crusade to drop Strange down a peg. And they have some good points, and have helped me reassess my idea of Strange quite a bit. But if an outsider was walking into this thread with no prior knowledge, he'd have a very, very skewed view of Strange's actual capabilities. Take any character with 1000+ total appearances, scan-spam all their worst showings, and they all look like utter chumps. But it's not a complete picture.

Originally posted by Digi
Doesn't it also feel like the feats being posted are more selective toward Kal than Strange? I mean, I get that there are a few on a crusade to drop Strange down a peg. And they have some good points, and have helped me reassess my idea of Strange quite a bit. But if an outsider was walking into this thread with no prior knowledge, he'd have a very, very skewed view of Strange's actual capabilities. Take any character with 1000+ total appearances, scan-spam all their worst showings, and they all look like utter chumps. But it's not a complete picture. beautifully said.

I say that Strange has the power to beat Superman.
The battle would be about will he have the time to do it.
The answer is, in some cases he will in others he won't.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Lol at you guys passing it as evidence as clark outright resisting time froze when it clearly appeared he was singled out as the only one unaffected in that scan.

Carver's right this time.
Superman wasn't singled out. Point to the quote where it was stated. He felt something happening and he speeded out of it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman wasn't singled out. Point to the quote where it was stated. He felt something happening and he speeded out of it.

So basically he escaped it rather than resisting it very much unlike what you said prior.

So there was no time-stop resistance feat?

Don't really want to get into the debate and I haven't even seen the scan but if there is no time-stop resistance feat...there is the feat of Superman being able to recognize when time stop is happening and react accordingly. If what you guys are saying is true anyways.

And not to derail but I also think strange has little to no chance no prep unless and its his match to lose with prep.

Also I dont think time stop will be a viable tactic in scenario 1 as it takes quite a bit of time to unleash a time stop.

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/4262/drstrangetimestop4zv.jpg

I dont think he will even be able to afford to steel his thoughts before the first casual speedblitzed punch caves his jaw.

Just look at the Arion vs. Superman battle in the Camelot Falls arc. Strange can do everything Arion could do there, except times like a billion. And Supes needed a plot device shield from the Phantom Stranger in that battle or he would have died.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes. Read the scan and find out yourself.
So we're just throwing out superman's showings here? Good to know.

Take your surfer butthurt to another thread. This isn't the thread with surfer.

I did read the scan and I am not seeing what you are seeing. Where does it say he speeded out of time stop?

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
So basically he escaped it rather than resisting it very much unlike what you said prior.

So there was no time-stop resistance feat?
"He speeded out of it" means he overcame it. Its not the first time either.Originally posted by Endless Mike
Just look at the Arion vs. Superman battle in the Camelot Falls arc. Strange can do everything Arion could do there, except times like a billion. And Supes needed a plot device shield from the Phantom Stranger in that battle or he would have died.
Then I could point out a lot of strange's fight with bricks. Just look at what hulk did to him in Defenders. Arion was sorcerer supreme of DC at one point too IIRC.

Or Superman tanks his attacks and bashes strange's head in like he did against Mordru. How's that for a fight?

Originally posted by carver9
I did read the scan and I am not seeing what you are seeing. Where does it say he speeded out of time stop?
Read again when he said "something is happening". Where was it mentioned that he was spared from the attack anyway?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Read again when he said "something is happening". Where was it mentioned that he was spared from the attack anyway?

Him saying "something is happening" doesn't mean he knew time stop was happening. Its obvious he was spared since there was nothing shown of him using super speed to bypass time stop.

Originally posted by abhilegend
"He speeded out of it" means he overcame it. Its not the first time either.
Then I could point out a lot of strange's fight with bricks. Just look at what hulk did to him in Defenders. Arion was sorcerer supreme of DC at one point too IIRC.

Or Superman tanks his attacks and bashes strange's head in like he did against Mordru. How's that for a fight? '

If overcame you meant evaded by moving out of the way, well then yeah superman did overcame it.

If you meant it as what you just posted before of resisting it then absolutely not.

Also waverider clearly wasn't operating on normal on that scan so the only thing that could be attributed to superman there is being able to sense time disruption process by a not-so optimal time manipulator. Nothing else should be.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Don't really want to get into the debate and I haven't even seen the scan but if there is no time-stop resistance feat...there is the feat of Superman being able to recognize when time stop is happening and react accordingly. If what you guys are saying is true anyways.

Which is utter nonsense. There is no way for him to recognize that time was about to stop (The moment it did stop, it would be to late.) What's this super power called?

Originally posted by Digi
Doesn't it also feel like the feats being posted are more selective toward Kal than Strange? I mean, I get that there are a few on a crusade to drop Strange down a peg. And they have some good points, and have helped me reassess my idea of Strange quite a bit. But if an outsider was walking into this thread with no prior knowledge, he'd have a very, very skewed view of Strange's actual capabilities. Take any character with 1000+ total appearances, scan-spam all their worst showings, and they all look like utter chumps. But it's not a complete picture.

Well said.

Originally posted by carver9
Him saying "something is happening" doesn't mean he knew time stop was happening. Its obvious he was spared since there was nothing shown of him using super speed to bypass time stop.
Superman has speeded out of time stops before. He later recognized it as a time-stop when moving out of it.Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
'

If overcame you meant evaded by moving out of the way, well then yeah superman did overcame it.

If you meant it as what you just posted before of resisting it then absolutely not.

Also waverider clearly wasn't operating on normal on that scan so the only thing that could be attributed to superman there is being able to sense time disruption process by a not-so optimal time manipulator. Nothing else should be.
That whole area was stopped in time. There was no evading.

Why not? Give a reasoning.

Waverider was grieving, his powers were intact.Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Which is utter nonsense. There is no way for him to recognize that time was about to stop (The moment it did stop, it would be to late.) What's this super power called?
Then you would be floored to know that superman can operate in an area with no time at all.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supermanwaverider3.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supermanwaverider4.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supermanwaverider5.jpg

Its called super-speed and it has been used several times by Flash to overcome time-stops. Why surprised that superman can do that too?

http://i.imgur.com/NiwyNDs.jpg

Strange can do this with a thought.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman has speeded out of time stops before. He later recognized it as a time-stop when moving out of it.
That whole area was stopped in time. There was no evading.

Why not? Give a reasoning.

Waverider was grieving, his powers were intact.
Then you would be floored to know that superman can operate in an area with no time at all.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supermanwaverider3.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supermanwaverider4.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supermanwaverider5.jpg

Its called super-speed and it has been used several times by Flash to overcome time-stops. Why surprised that superman can do that too?

OMG...your interpretation of things.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
http://i.imgur.com/NiwyNDs.jpg

Strange can do this with a thought.
Originally posted by Supermex
Who wins?
No prep..





Fight 1.
No prep..
No B.F.R..






Fight 2.
No prep..
With B.F.R on..




Classic Strange

Vs

Superman

In only one fight and Superman can traverse realities to reach the battlefield.

Originally posted by carver9
OMG...your interpretation of things.
Is exactly the same as comics say.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Is exactly the same as comics say.

So the blast that was shot during that scene can traverse time as well?

Originally posted by carver9
So the blast that was shot during that scene can traverse time as well?
That's energy of linear men which have traversed time-space. You picked the absolute last thing to nitpick about.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman has speeded out of time stops before. He later recognized it as a time-stop when moving out of it.
That whole area was stopped in time. There was no evading.

Why not? Give a reasoning.

Waverider was grieving, his powers were intact.
Then you would be floored to know that superman can operate in an area with no time at all.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supermanwaverider3.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supermanwaverider4.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supermanwaverider5.jpg

Its called super-speed and it has been used several times by Flash to overcome time-stops. Why surprised that superman can do that too?

Sigh I give up on the futility of trying to debate this as your interpretation of that is blatantly skewed. Add to the fact there is no reasonable explanation on how superman can even resist time stop to begin with even going by comic book pseudo-science standards.

Any mods there to make a ruling on that time "resistance" feat?

And also lol at operating normally where there is no time at all.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Sigh I give up on the futility of trying to debate this as your interpretation of that is blatantly skewed. Add to the fact there is no reasonable explanation on how superman can even resist time stop to begin with even going by comic book pseudo-science standards.

Any mods there to make a ruling on that time "resistance" feat?

And also lol at operating normally where there is no time at all.
Take it with writers who wrote this. I'm just saying what was stated in the comic.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Which is utter nonsense. There is no way for him to recognize that time was about to stop (The moment it did stop, it would be to late.) What's this super power called? Its comics.

Who is to say Superman or any random char can or cannot sense time stopping.

I mean really?

Well generally if you don't have any time-based powers there's no reason you could do that.