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JSA
Kingdom Come Superman
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/KCS_zps6c605dd1.jpg
Doctor Fate (Hector)
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/DF_zps0531078b.jpg
Hourman 1M (No Worlogog)
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/HM_zps265ce0e4.jpg
Alan Scott
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/AS_zpsaf8d40d0.jpg
Captain Marvel
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/cmm_zps90618fa9.jpg
Uncle Sam
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/US_zpsca465799.jpg
Starman
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/JK_zpse64a7bfb.jpg
Obsidian
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/OB_zps0dbd92b7.jpg

vs

Silver Surfer
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/SS_zpse2a9532d.jpg
Thor
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/Thor_zps749a9981.jpg
Monica
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/MON_zpsb3f67c87.jpg
Doctor Strange
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/DS_zpsd0df718d.jpg
Hercules
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/Herc_zps718eabae.jpg
Quasar
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/QUA_zps403eb933.jpg
Sersi
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/SER_zps53a9ad1b.jpg
Havok
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/Hav_zpsf35e8fa1.jpg

Havok? Really

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Havok? Really

Yes, really. You don't think he can go toe to toe with Jack?

I dont know, but Strange, Sersi, Thor and Surfer on a team Is crazy!!

Havok thru me off

Originally posted by Supermex
I dont know, but Strange, Sersi, Thor and Surfer on a team Is crazy!!

They don't call them the Earth's Mightiest heroes for nothing. Alan, Fate, KC Supes, and Hourman can match them, though.

Hourman traps them all in a time loop while Hector beats the shit out of strange.

I saw the firstpost with the JSA line up and thought team two woulf be fubared.
As it happens ou have a reasonable fight which the JSA still takes in a hard fought one. Combining Matthey and Alan's time manip alone gives them too much of an advantage

Surfer and The Avengers FTW.

Surfeteers!

Originally posted by beatboks
I saw the firstpost with the JSA line up and thought team two woulf be fubared.
As it happens ou have a reasonable fight which the JSA still takes in a hard fought one. Combining Matthey and Alan's time manip alone gives them too much of an advantage

Don't forget about Obsidian. He's a power player on JSA side.

Prepman, never vote in a thread you create. Doesn't look right, especially when it always resort to you hyping up the DC side. Make the thread and let the others decide (try making "even" fights).

The JSA wins because of Hourman.

Dr. Strange and Dr. Fate go to war.

Alan matches Surfer.

Kingdom Come Superman beats Thor.

Captain Marvel beats Monica.

Obsidian and Quasar. close but I will take Wendell.Barely.

Starman loses to Sersi.

Uncle Sam loses to Hercules.


KCS beats Quasar.

Captain Marvel beats Sersi.

Dr. Fate beats Hercules.

JSA

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
The JSA wins because of Hourman.

Dr. Strange and Dr. Fate go to war.

Alan matches Surfer.

Kingdom Come Superman beats Thor.

Captain Marvel beats Monica.

Obsidian and Quasar. close but I will take Wendell.Barely.

Starman loses to Sersi.

Uncle Sam loses to Hercules.


KCS beats Quasar.

Captain Marvel beats Sersi.

Dr. Fate beats Hercules.

I wouldn't be so quick to say Uncle Sam looses to Her TBH. he was an even match fir Baron Blitzcrieg and he could fight powered up GA Superman on close to even terms ( he was behind but not by that much). If all comes down to the level of patriotism and belief in America. lets not forget that on top of his strength and durability there's all his mental powers ( that granted he uses about as often as Thor pulls out what Mjilnor can do).

i also wouldnt be so quick to give the battle between Wendell and Todd to Quasar. it is very close though, but Todd has soloed the entire JSA after all. depends on how closely linked to the shadow realms he is. After the fatherland ark ( where he was made into an egg) it was inferred he was back to peak power without the downfalls so who knows

Originally posted by beatboks
I saw the firstpost with the JSA line up and thought team two woulf be fubared.
As it happens ou have a reasonable fight which the JSA still takes in a hard fought one. Combining Matthey and Alan's time manip alone gives them too much of an advantage

Um, Surfer, Thor and Strange's time manipulation?

Originally posted by carver9
Prepman, never vote in a thread you create. Doesn't look right, especially when it always resort to you hyping up the DC side. Make the thread and let the others decide (try making "even" fights).



Also, no Hulk, correct?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Um, Surfer, Thor and Strange's time manipulation?

Matthew's time manipulation is greater then those three combined . He can literally devolve or alter a person to their weakest point in time at a thought. the only reason this didn't work on Mordu was their was no point in time he was weak enough.

When you add the fact that Alan has time manip equal to if not greater than SS. He has altered the flow of time on a planet that's existence threatened earth so that millions of years transpired in a very short time so he could eliminate the threat to earth without depriving the life forms on the planet of an existenc.

Fate has time manip equal to if not greater than Strange. To take down Black Adam he simply brought a Shazam magic bolt from a different point in time to the moment they were fighting. In a battle with Mordru he showed him his future.

Not to mention Obsidian's shadow form also "absorbs time" ( though this was more showcased through Ian Karkull who's power his stems from he has seen things about to happen). Plus Uncle Sam has shown mystical abilities including mild time manip ( he took a team to battle an attack on American soil after it had happened through a portal back in time).

When I said Matthew and Alan's time manip ALONE I meant without the added abilities of the rest of the team.

Originally posted by beatboks
I wouldn't be so quick to say Uncle Sam looses to Her TBH. he was an even match fir Baron Blitzcrieg and he could fight powered up GA Superman on close to even terms ( he was behind but not by that much). If all comes down to the level of patriotism and belief in America. lets not forget that on top of his strength and durability there's all his mental powers ( that granted he uses about as often as Thor pulls out what Mjilnor can do).

i also wouldnt be so quick to give the battle between Wendell and Todd to Quasar. it is very close though, but Todd has soloed the entire JSA after all. depends on how closely linked to the shadow realms he is. After the fatherland ark ( where he was made into an egg) it was inferred he was back to peak power without the downfalls so who knows

So how do the fights breakdown to you?

Originally posted by beatboks
Matthew's time manipulation is greater then those three combined . He can literally devolve or alter a person to their weakest point in time at a thought. the only reason this didn't work on Mordu was their was no point in time he was weak enough.

When you add the fact that Alan has time manip equal to if not greater than SS. He has altered the flow of time on a planet that's existence threatened earth so that millions of years transpired in a very short time so he could eliminate the threat to earth without depriving the life forms on the planet of an existenc.

Fate has time manip equal to if not greater than Strange. To take down Black Adam he simply brought a Shazam magic bolt from a different point in time to the moment they were fighting. In a battle with Mordru he showed him his future.

Not to mention Obsidian's shadow form also "absorbs time" ( though this was more showcased through Ian Karkull who's power his stems from he has seen things about to happen). Plus Uncle Sam has shown mystical abilities including mild time manip ( he took a team to battle an attack on American soil after it had happened through a portal back in time).

When I said Matthew and Alan's time manip ALONE I meant without the added abilities of the rest of the team.

Is that why time manipulation is usually banned?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
So how do the fights breakdown to you?

Your breakdown was pretty good, I'm just saying under some circumstances those two could go the other way.

In character Alan is a pretty good and even match for SS

Hector would be also a good match for modern Strange, if it were Erik, Linda or Kent V Strange for a definite win. Inza would be less powerful but was so damn creative in how she wielded it she would still make a good show of it not sure which way that would go. Obviously kent (Original) and Classic Strange are the only fair match to either of those two.

Beatbok's needs to show Sam throwing that Superman level being to the moon. One of the coolest things I've seen in comics.