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Regular pre dcnu vs. Kang (whatever version is regular)

1. Prep
2. No-prep

Brainiac 5?

Is this actually B5 or just the original Brainiac ( Vril Dox).

Honestly i can see a B5 and Kang battle going either way. BUt kang should rape the Superman Villain.

Err.. I always thought the superman villain was a lot more uber than b5.

I was thinking supe villain as I am playing dcuo atm.

Originally posted by beatboks
Is this actually B5 or just the original Brainiac ( Vril Dox).

Honestly i can see a B5 and Kang battle going either way. BUt kang should rape the Superman Villain.


Didn't Vryl along with Lyrl's help take down Braniac in REBELS? Brainiac is no joke.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Didn't Vryl along with Lyrl's help take down Braniac in REBELS? Brainiac is no joke.

Vrill II ( Brainiac his father is Vrill also) is only a 10th level Genius. Lyrl is a 12 but he lacks the maturity of the others as well. Brainiacs best mental feats are well below the best of B5 who lets face it while an equal level intellect has another 1000 years of technological development to draw upon in his work. expounding on this much greater level of development with the same level of smarts has to ( and does) translate into greater feats.

Kang without issue

Kang wins.

Originally posted by beatboks
Vrill II ( Brainiac his father is Vrill also) is only a 10th level Genius. Lyrl is a 12 but he lacks the maturity of the others as well. Brainiacs best mental feats are well below the best of B5 who lets face it while an equal level intellect has another 1000 years of technological development to draw upon in his work. expounding on this much greater level of development with the same level of smarts has to ( and does) translate into greater feats.

I think brainiacs best feat was going up against the two.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I think brainiacs best feat was going up against the two.

hardly. getting completely and utterly defeated by the trickery of a lower level intellect ? his son) despite having all the cards at your disposal ( he had complete access to the coluan data core, so essentially ever mind on the planet including Vrill II) is hardly a great showing. Kot when you compare it to conquering War world, defeating Galactic empires, and the like of story lines like Panic in the Sky where Brainiac single handedly took on many of earth heroes including Supe's Maxima and 4 or 5 GLs (IIRC anyway)

Any brainiac would rape kang.

Kang.

Duh.

But I'd love to see some Braniac 5 feats or a respect thread.

Originally posted by beatboks
hardly. getting completely and utterly defeated by the trickery of a lower level intellect ? his son) despite having all the cards at your disposal ( he had complete access to the coluan data core, so essentially ever mind on the planet including Vrill II) is hardly a great showing. Kot when you compare it to conquering War world, defeating Galactic empires, and the like of story lines like Panic in the Sky where Brainiac single handedly took on many of earth heroes including Supe's Maxima and 4 or 5 GLs (IIRC anyway)

I thought Vril needed to team up with his son to compete. Losing to Vril and his son isn't a low feat.

Originally posted by Bentley
Kang.

Duh.

But I'd love to see some Braniac 5 feats or a respect thread.
He has created a force-field that not even Validus can breach. That enough for you?

Tell me has Kang ever done shit like this?

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16382814_ManOfSteel40p02.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16382815_ManOfSteel40p03.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16382816_ManOfSteel40p04.jpg

He basically bitchslapped whole New Genesis.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He has created a force-field that not even Validus can breach. That enough for you?

I wouldn't say enough, but that's pretty good.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Tell me has Kang ever done shit like this?

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16382814_ManOfSteel40p02.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16382815_ManOfSteel40p03.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16382816_ManOfSteel40p04.jpg

He basically bitchslapped whole New Genesis.

Beating non telepaths with telepathy? Kang has psi-shields

B5 just took Persuader's axe as well.

Originally posted by Golgo13
B5 just took Persuader's axe as well.

We need a respect thread, I think its doable by the number of showings.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I thought Vril needed to team up with his son to compete. Losing to Vril and his son isn't a low feat.

fist it was far from a team up. Lyrl was tryin to take over Colu exactly the same way Brainiac was also. it was actually a three way battle where Vrill II joined Lyrl's attack ( knowing it woulf fail). Brainiac actually defeated them both as Vril knew he would. having then captured his son Brainiac discovered a secured part of his mind that he could not access. he probed deeper and deeper until he broke through and fell right into Vril's trap. Vril had placed all his pent emotions of rage, disgust, hatred, sadness etc within the secured part of his mind. once Brainiac broke through he was overcome with a flood of powerful emotions he could not deal with. Vril pretty much beat him alone when he held all the cards. Lyrl was useless.

Brainiac has conquered an empire or two one at a time, but IIRC Kang has conquered multiple empires at on e in multiple time lines. hidden himself from abstracts and more. Now B5 has feats like that against Time Trapper etc but I would say he has to fight for a win here. Possible but not easily and no guarrantee of a majority.

Originally posted by Bentley
I wouldn't say enough, but that's pretty good.



Beating non telepaths with telepathy? Kang has psi-shields
Time-trapper couldn't breach the shield either.

Mother box has better psi-protection. It made new gods completely immune to martian telepathy including J'onn.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Time-trapper couldn't breach the shield either.

Mother box has better psi-protection. It made new gods completely immune to martian telepathy including J'onn.

I know for a fact that the Motherbox doesn't grant telepathic inmunity on every showing it has. If it was stated that they were using it to shield from Braniac at the time he attacked, I'd give that to you though.

Originally posted by Bentley
I know for a fact that the Motherbox doesn't grant telepathic inmunity on every showing it has. If it was stated that they were using it to shield from Braniac at the time he attacked, I'd give that to you though.
What instances are you talking about where Mother-Box doesn't give telepathic defense? Also this Brainiac brainwashed entire Earth into seeing a corpse in superman's tomb while being a vegetable on New Genesis by just his subconscious mind which fooled even the most knowledgeable scientist on kryptonian physiology, Emil Hamilton several times.

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16383948_Superman_v2_094_-_09.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16383960_Superman_v2_094_-_10.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16383971_Superman_v2_094_-_22.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16384137_ManOfSteel39p21.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16384054_ManOfSteel38p01.jpg

This was all done by just his subconscious mind while he was a universe away.

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16383894_AdventuresOfSuperman519p04.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16383983_Superman_v2_095_-_20.jpg

He brainwashed the whole planet

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16383911_AdventuresOfSuperman519p20.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16383923_AdventuresOfSuperman519p21.jpg

and fooled even Mxy

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16384224_ActionComics705p20.jpg

I don't think I've seen a better TP feat than this, certainly not from any telepath Kang may have encountered.

Mmmh... I'll give it to you that from the top of my head Kang hasn't any feat against a telepath on that level, but that advantage would only be valid in the non-prep match since Kang can more than handle telepaths with his vast resources.

Originally posted by Bentley
Mmmh... I'll give it to you that from the top of my head Kang hasn't any feat against a telepath on that level, but that advantage would only be valid in the non-prep match since Kang can more than handle telepaths with his vast resources.