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Who wins?
No prep..




The Hulk

Vs

Wonder Woman




Fight takes place in Metropolis..
Both are in current form..

Diana can win if she plays it smart, but Hulk's raw physicality, and her tendency to engage in H2H combat, makes me think that she'll end up losing.

Of course, there's the lasso...

Been done before. Hulk wins.

hulk stabs her with sumthen thee end

Hulk fans have no idea how good they have it. A decade ago, this was actually a debate, and the majority would have likely sided with Diana. That's not a forum-bias thing, it's just how far Hulk has come in recent years.

Originally posted by Digi
Hulk fans have no idea how good they have it. A decade ago, this was actually a debate, and the majority would have likely sided with Diana. That's not a forum-bias thing, it's just how far Hulk has come in recent years.

Also how far she's fallen via New 52

I agree with digi, im a hulk fan myself more than i am wonder woman. But she has got the strength imo to go toe to toe with him, and is more skilled in hand to hand, the lasso would just keep hulk from swinging punches and just piss him of, not sure how long she could keep him there tbh
but im going with wonder woman for the majority, just about, but hulk can go wb at will currently, so actually hulk takes it 8/10
but if you rempve the whole wb thing, you still have a decent fight

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
But she has got the strength imo to go toe to toe with him

If we were using Gray Hulk sure but Hulk walks around at like at least Wonder Woman level at this point.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If we were using Gray Hulk sure but Hulk walks around at like at least Wonder Woman level at this point. what? Thats why i said she has the strength to go toe to toe

Yeah but he amps above her in the first few seconds and in all honesty if she doesn't insta-lasso him he will bull rush her

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Yeah but he amps above her in the first few seconds and in all honesty if she doesn't instance lasso him he will bull rush her yeah, but it will be a good fight imo

Hulk.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Yeah but he amps above her in the first few seconds and in all honesty if she doesn't insta-lasso him he will bull rush her

Bull rush the hell out of her. Don't see how she is winning this.

I know the fight been done before..
Jus wanted to get a gage of where both compare in there current form..

fan of both, but Hulk takes this

Bull rush won't be how he wins; she's far too smart for that.

She fights people with far better H2H skills than hulk, and fighters who are smarter, she wont be beaten by letting hulk juggernaut her

Originally posted by -Pr-
Diana can win if she plays it smart, but Hulk's raw physicality, and her tendency to engage in H2H combat, makes me think that she'll end up losing.

Of course, there's the lasso...

And swords.

The swords won't really help

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
She fights people with far better H2H skills than hulk, and fighters who are smarter, she wont be beaten by letting hulk juggernaut her

Damage soak my friend, Damage soak.

Standard equipment only

Swords are standard for current WW. They magically "pop" out of her gauntlets.

Originally posted by carver9
Damage soak my friend, Damage soak. what has damage soak got to do with it, ww has the reflexes and speed to dodge hulk, i have already said hulk wins but hes not going to win by running into her

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
what has damage soak got to do with it, ww has the reflexes and speed to dodge hulk, i have already said hulk wins but hes not going to win by running into her

What does damage soak have to do with running?

she'd butcher him, but i don't think she has enough now to put him down via strength/damage. it'd be the lasso or nothing, but she is certainly fast enough and skilled enough to wrap him up then he's pretty much done.

Originally posted by carver9
What does damage soak have to do with running? we have confused eachother, lets put this behind us

If Diana can get out of warrior mode and use the lasso to potentially manipulate the Hulk she could and should win.

Oh, this is current Wonder Woman? Hulk rips her in half.

Her lasso was hardly an auto-win even before the Flashpoint but currently from what I've seen it's nothing but a very tough rope. Hulk would just use it to ragdoll her probably.

Won't a lassoed Hulk be worst?
Anger wise
Can the lasso even contian him once he goes breaker?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Oh, this is current Wonder Woman? Hulk rips her in half.

Her lasso was hardly an auto-win even before the Flashpoint but currently from what I've seen it's nothing but a very tough rope. Hulk would just use it to ragdoll her probably.


Yes both Hulk an Wonder Woman are in current form..

Hulk, but pre dcnu Diana would've smoked him

Hulk wins whether its preboot or DCnU wonder woman. Just on another level physically.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Oh, this is current Wonder Woman? Hulk rips her in half.

Her lasso was hardly an auto-win even before the Flashpoint but currently from what I've seen it's nothing but a very tough rope. Hulk would just use it to ragdoll her probably. if she lassos him then the fight is over. hulk won't be able to get out.

She can beat him straight up with her speed and skill easily though

Hulk, easily.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Oh, this is current Wonder Woman? Hulk rips her in half.

Her lasso was hardly an auto-win even before the Flashpoint but currently from what I've seen it's nothing but a very tough rope. Hulk would just use it to ragdoll her probably.

Hulk is not ripping Diana in half.

When he finally lands the winning shot it will be after his blood has been shed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk, easily.

His blood will be flowing easily from the butchering Diana will be doing. He wins but it won't be anything close to easy.

Diana is too skilled and fast to lose to Hulk. She can beat him straight up. The lasso is always an option in every fight, insuring her the win everytime.

You realize this is Dcnu Diana?

Originally posted by pym-ftw
You realize this is Dcnu Diana? yup, lasso is always a win. Speed and skill tops anything else.

What feats make you think the lasso is an instant win?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
His blood will be flowing easily from the butchering Diana will be doing. He wins but it won't be anything close to easy. He would treat her like a no factor. Hulk beats Superman or WW these days rather easily.

hulk will slap her around.. in a forum fight hulk will be vicious i mean saber-tooth vicious anybody thinks she will beat him is xrazy

Originally posted by pym-ftw
What feats make you think the lasso is an instant win? the lasso is unbreakable. Thus wrapping it around hulk would trap him. Also WW is very fast and very skilled. She have no problem actually with this

Originally posted by Shabazz916
hulk will slap her around.. in a forum fight hulk will be vicious i mean saber-tooth vicious anybody thinks she will beat him is xrazy WW is too fast and skilled. She would operate and piece the Hulk up

Originally posted by h1a8
the lasso is unbreakable. Thus wrapping it around hulk would trap him. Also WW is very fast and very skilled. She have no problem actually with this

Who says it's unbreakable? And we already saw Supergirl blast her way out of it.

Originally posted by h1a8
WW is too fast and skilled. She would operate and piece the Hulk up Based on ?

Originally posted by h1a8
WW is too fast and skilled. She would operate and piece the Hulk up

i dnt think speed or skill will beat hulk.. if you dnt have a long range attack that can hurt him you have no chance at all really becuz once he gets you its over

Originally posted by Shabazz916
i dnt think speed or skill will beat hulk.. if you dnt have a long range attack that can hurt him you have no chance at all really becuz once he gets you its over




Totally agree with you

Grey Hulk these days are operating at High Herald levels.

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Wonder Woman gets her neck snapped.

^
Beating wonder man means you are high herald? Korg must be skyfather then, since he oneshotted simon. Not to mention, that's Wonder man from before he learned his true power level and was using jet packs to fly. In his previous showing fixit was getting beaten up by ms. marvel.

Originally posted by abhilegend
^
Beating wonder man means you are high herald? Korg must be skyfather then, since he oneshotted simon. In his previous showing fixit was getting beaten up by ms. marvel.

No matter what you say ABHI, the showing is nice, especially for someone like Fixit. Don't respond to this because we both disagree with each other. Also, it wasn't just Wonderman that made the showing nice, the guy tossed a freaking Pyramid like it was a baseball. Then he treated Ironman like a poot stain.

Originally posted by carver9
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Wonder Woman gets her neck snapped.


And the green one is more powerful.

Still a good fight. But the big green SOTI (Strongest One There Is) wins.

Fixit went to work there. Taking out Wonder Man right away after getting angry, no selling Iron Man and one shotting him? All while during the day time (He's noticeably stronger at night)?

For all the talk of Fixit being the weakest Hulk, he can get up there pretty fast. He came off as pretty much as strong as Hercules and IIRC was more durable in that Avengers annual. Continuity wise he had weaker base stats and was weakened during the day but in retrospect, some times he was treated as a wise cracking Green Hulk in terms of power leves.

The next person to lowball either character in this thread is getting warned.

Originally posted by carver9
No matter what you say ABHI, the showing is nice, especially for someone like Fixit. Don't respond to this because we both disagree with each other. Also, it wasn't just Wonderman that made the showing nice, the guy tossed a freaking Pyramid like it was a baseball. Then he treated Ironman like a poot stain.
Simon is a jobber nowadays outside some lip service from bendis. Fixit is highly inconsistent.

Somebody who broke an asteroid twice the size of earth, lifting a pyramid isn't something noteworthy. You get excited at absolutely worthless feats.

I really think Hulk has surpass Superman in the strength department and maybe by design thou..

Whish mskes sense comic wise..

Originally posted by abhilegend
Simon is a jobber nowadays outside some lip service from bendis. Fixit is highly inconsistent.

Somebody who broke an asteroid twice the size of earth, lifting a pyramid isn't something noteworthy. You get excited at absolutely worthless feats.

Simon have loses just like everyone else does. In that comic, he was represented as a top tier.

Lol...I'm not even going to comment on your pyramid comment. Too easy.

Okay I need to rephrase: The next person to lowball or over-exaggerate a character, is getting warned.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Okay I need to rephrase: The next person to lowball or over-exaggerate a character, is getting warned.
Are those ure new names for Abhi and Carv?

Lowball and Over-Exaggerate.. Has a nice ring to it.

Its like Carver has a ban wish.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Okay I need to rephrase: The next person to lowball or over-exaggerate a character, is getting warned.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its like Carver has a ban wish.

Hush ABHI.

You will never silence me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




































Unless you explode my laptop's screen by scans

Lol.

There's really not a lot of proof that Diana is noticeably weaker from previous incarnations so I don't know where this WW sucks now thing is coming from.

Originally posted by Based
There's really not a lot of proof that Diana is noticeably weaker from previous incarnations so I don't know where this WW sucks now thing is coming from.



I don't think anybody is saying WW sucks..
There just saying that any version of WW would get beat by this Hulk majority of the time if not all the time..

Originally posted by Based
There's really not a lot of proof that Diana is noticeably weaker from previous incarnations so I don't know where this WW sucks now thing is coming from.

Do you have proof that she is on the same tier as her previous self? Scans please.

Originally posted by carver9
Do you have proof that she is on the same tier as her previous self? Scans please.

Because she, like Doomsday and Captain Marvel, power-scales with Superman.

If she's not on her past level power-wise, she's very close to it.

Originally posted by Based
There's really not a lot of proof that Diana is noticeably weaker from previous incarnations so I don't know where this WW sucks now thing is coming from.





So I'm not going to be able to post scans but if you want to be condescending I'm all for that. And I don't recall saying that WW was as strong as she used to be but the talk about her getting nerfed is premature and really baseless.

The only times she faced herald class fighters in the new 52 WW has definitely held her own. SUperman even said getting hit by Diana was the hardest hit he's taken and he's already fought guys like Darkseid. She KOTF'd Supergirl despite saying that her strength and speed are on par with hers.

But it's not enough to say anything definitive for either case. Point being you don't have a solid argument either. Scans please.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Because she, like Doomsday and Captain Marvel, power-scales with Superman.

If she's not on her past level power-wise, she's very close to it.

imo, that's not enough.

Originally posted by Based
So I'm not going to be able to post scans but if you want to be condescending I'm all for that. And I don't recall saying that WW was as strong as she used to be but the talk about her getting nerfed is premature and really baseless.

The only times she faced herald class fighters in the new 52 WW has definitely held her own. SUperman even said getting hit by Diana was the hardest hit he's taken and he's already fought guys like Darkseid. She KOTF'd Supergirl despite saying that her strength and speed are on par with hers.

But it's not enough to say anything definitive for either case. Point being you don't have a solid argument either. Scans please.

So your entire argument is based off assumptiions?

Originally posted by carver9
imo, that's not enough.

what feats she has add to it, and put her on that level.

Originally posted by carver9
So your entire argument is based off assumptiions?

Do you really need scans to back up such a basic assertion?

Diana has been portrayed as a peer to other high heralds in the DCNU.

That means she is clearly a threat to Hulk.

Hulk wins.

Pre-Flashpoint WW would be a much better fight since she can hang with him physically(for a little while anyway) has her fair share of ss showings and has a lot of experience.

Current gets shitstomped and choked by her own lasso.

I haven't been keeping up with comics lately, but isn't WW still much faster than Hulk...she could win by BFR to avoid a prolonged fight.

Super speed is still part of her powerset, but I don't recall a single quantifiable speed feat in her resume.

@ -Pr-, There is only one instance of a battle between Superman and Wonder Woman that can be gauged as a true battle in terms of determining the disparity in their power levels.

When Max Lord took over Superman's mind and had him battle Wonder Woman we saw how much more powerful Superman was than her under circumstances where Superman could not use the excuse of holding back, unless there may have been a very small part of him trying to stop from killing her.

Diana is not on Superman's level if he is not holding back. Furthermore, comparing the two would be much like comparing Namor to the Sentry. The gap is wide. If Superman is a High Herald, I would place Wonder Woman down at Low-Mid Herald with an awesome array of martial skills, and weapons/armor. By means of feats, the Hulk is a true High Herald while using only his natural gifts, and if he goes nuts on Diana she's not going to remain conscious for long. She does have the speed advantage, but the Hulk has superhuman speed as well. If you took note of how easily he caught Hawkeye's arrow in the scan provided by Carver you will see how fast he truly is. Hawkeye rarely misses. This tells me more than enough. The Hulk would have no problem tagging Diana. Anyone believing otherwise are living in a dream world. Like I said, if we were to compare all of the times that the hulk has tagged speedsters, caught speeding missiles, and caught Hawkeye's arrow.

The Hulk would beat the mess out of Diana.

PF Diana= Win for WW.
DCnU WW would lose, until we see more.

Originally posted by Stoic
@ -Pr-, There is only one instance of a battle between Superman and Wonder Woman that can be gauged as a true battle in terms of determining the disparity in their power levels.

When Max Lord took over Superman's mind and had him battle Wonder Woman we saw how much more powerful Superman was than her under circumstances where Superman could not use the excuse of holding back, unless there may have been a very small part of him trying to stop from killing her.

Diana is not on Superman's level if he is not holding back. Furthermore, comparing the two would be much like comparing Namor to the Sentry. The gap is wide. If Superman is a High Herald, I would place Wonder Woman down at Low-Mid Herald with an awesome array of martial skills, and weapons/armor. By means of feats, the Hulk is a true High Herald while using only his natural gifts, and if he goes nuts on Diana she's not going to remain conscious for long. She does have the speed advantage, but the Hulk has superhuman speed as well. If you took note of how easily he caught Hawkeye's arrow in the scan provided by Carver you will see how fast he truly is. Hawkeye rarely misses. This tells me more than enough. The Hulk would have no problem tagging Diana. Anyone believing otherwise are living in a dream world. Like I said, if we were to compare all of the times that the hulk has tagged speedsters, caught speeding missiles, and caught Hawkeye's arrow.

The Hulk would beat the mess out of Diana.

Stoic...

Look at the speed fts in this fight.


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Hulk wins

Pf WW : Hulk wins
Current: Hulk wins

Just looks like current Hulk is to beast now a days

Originally posted by Stoic
@ -Pr-, There is only one instance of a battle between Superman and Wonder Woman that can be gauged as a true battle in terms of determining the disparity in their power levels.

When Max Lord took over Superman's mind and had him battle Wonder Woman we saw how much more powerful Superman was than her under circumstances where Superman could not use the excuse of holding back, unless there may have been a very small part of him trying to stop from killing her.

Diana is not on Superman's level if he is not holding back. Furthermore, comparing the two would be much like comparing Namor to the Sentry. The gap is wide. If Superman is a High Herald, I would place Wonder Woman down at Low-Mid Herald with an awesome array of martial skills, and weapons/armor. By means of feats, the Hulk is a true High Herald while using only his natural gifts, and if he goes nuts on Diana she's not going to remain conscious for long. She does have the speed advantage, but the Hulk has superhuman speed as well. If you took note of how easily he caught Hawkeye's arrow in the scan provided by Carver you will see how fast he truly is. Hawkeye rarely misses. This tells me more than enough. The Hulk would have no problem tagging Diana. Anyone believing otherwise are living in a dream world. Like I said, if we were to compare all of the times that the hulk has tagged speedsters, caught speeding missiles, and caught Hawkeye's arrow.

The Hulk would beat the mess out of Diana. Wonder Woman was holding back in her fight with superman while he was giving everything he had though.

lol.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
lol. LOL.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/264/job94sk.jpg/

Originally posted by Golgo13
PF Diana= Win for WW.
DCnU WW would lose, until we see more.

The Hulk can still go to World Breaker levels. He has always had this ability Golgo, (except for his Merged persona). This means that all of his physical stats, including powers will rise. Diana has a static level of ability.

Diana isn't a Mega team buster, she is and always has been a support character.Which means that she needs help against guys like Superman, the Silver Surfer, Thor, and yes the Hulk who happens to be able to transcend even this level when it comes to pure brute strength. Diana is a brick, the Hulk is a much more powerful brick.

Originally posted by JBL
Wonder Woman was holding back in her fight with superman while he was giving everything he had though.

Wonder Woman blacked out briefly from one punch from Superman. If Superman were holding back and Diana went wild, he would be able to subdue her eventually. She could not do this, which is why she was on the run for the entire fight.

Thor held back in his battle with Firelord, but imagine if Thor fought Firelord with everything he had? Same thing applies here.

Originally posted by JBL
LOL.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/264/job94sk.jpg/


What's so funny? Mind controlled characters do not fight at their best ability. Why? I'm sure that I do not have to explain this.

Originally posted by Stoic
Wonder Woman blacked out briefly from one punch from Superman. If Superman were holding back and Diana went wild, he would be able to subdue her eventually. She could not do this, which is why she was on the run for the entire fight.

Thor held back in his battle with Firelord, but imagine if Thor fought Firelord with everything he had? Same thing applies here.

Superman was by the sun when he hit her with that punch. Of course it would temp ko her

Originally posted by Stoic
@ -Pr-, There is only one instance of a battle between Superman and Wonder Woman that can be gauged as a true battle in terms of determining the disparity in their power levels.

When Max Lord took over Superman's mind and had him battle Wonder Woman we saw how much more powerful Superman was than her under circumstances where Superman could not use the excuse of holding back, unless there may have been a very small part of him trying to stop from killing her.

Diana is not on Superman's level if he is not holding back. Furthermore, comparing the two would be much like comparing Namor to the Sentry. The gap is wide. If Superman is a High Herald, I would place Wonder Woman down at Low-Mid Herald with an awesome array of martial skills, and weapons/armor. By means of feats, the Hulk is a true High Herald while using only his natural gifts, and if he goes nuts on Diana she's not going to remain conscious for long. She does have the speed advantage, but the Hulk has superhuman speed as well. If you took note of how easily he caught Hawkeye's arrow in the scan provided by Carver you will see how fast he truly is. Hawkeye rarely misses. This tells me more than enough. The Hulk would have no problem tagging Diana. Anyone believing otherwise are living in a dream world. Like I said, if we were to compare all of the times that the hulk has tagged speedsters, caught speeding missiles, and caught Hawkeye's arrow.

The Hulk would beat the mess out of Diana.

No, there isn't.

Also, I know how fast Hulk is.

ppl. underrate how fast the hulk is.. he isnt just your regular brick he is a super brick

Originally posted by carver9
Superman was by the sun when he hit her with that punch. Of course it would temp ko her


Superman is always being powered by the sun though. He has also always stated that he holds back all of the time, and with his Kryptonian mind, at least a fraction of his will was in his battle with Diana. At least written correctly it would be. This means that a certain percentage of his will tried to fight off Lord's control written correctly of course.

Originally posted by -Pr-
No, there isn't.

Also, I know how fast Hulk is.

I wrote a whole lot there. Surely you can come up with more than a couple one liners -Pr-. Seriously though.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman was by the sun when he hit her with that punch. Of course it would temp ko her
He was affected by kryptonite, there is no indication he was amped there.

Originally posted by Stoic
Superman is always being powered by the sun though. He has also always stated that he holds back all of the time, and with his Kryptonian mind, at least a fraction of his will was in his battle with Diana. At least written correctly it would be. This means that a certain percentage of his will tried to fight off Lord's control written correctly of course.



I wrote a whole lot there. Surely you can come up with more than a couple one liners -Pr-. Seriously though.

He was right at the sun, touching it when he hit WW like that. It was a sun AMPED Superman that did that to her. I just wanted to point out that it was pointless bringing that scene up. Now in regards to Superman being more powerful than her, well, that has been an argument for decades and I will leave that to you all but that one part of the story doesn't indicate that...

Originally posted by Stoic
Superman is always being powered by the sun though. He has also always stated that he holds back all of the time, and with his Kryptonian mind, at least a fraction of his will was in his battle with Diana. At least written correctly it would be. This means that a certain percentage of his will tried to fight off Lord's control written correctly of course.



I wrote a whole lot there. Surely you can come up with more than a couple one liners -Pr-. Seriously though.

I would, but tbh it's something I've ended up writing about at length before. I appreciate you putting in the effort and all, I just have to see how much I really can/will write in response.

Its like nobody knows how superman's powers work. It was established from start that Superman needs his brain in his control to fully use his powers.

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16479425_activebrain.jpg

Its not the matter of being hindered by mindcontrol as most characters, he literally can't access his full powers if he is mindcontrolled.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He was affected by kryptonite, there is no indication he was amped there.

Lol...it has been proven that kryptonite does jack nothing to Superman while amped by solar energy.

Originally posted by carver9
He was right at the sun, touching it when he hit WW like that. It was a sun AMPED Superman that did that to her. I just wanted to point out that it was pointless bringing that scene up. Now in regards to Superman being more powerful than her, well, that has been an argument for decades and I will leave that to you all but that one part of the story doesn't indicate that...
He wasn't at the sun, why are you lying? He was facing kryptonite when he punched her. An actually sun amped superman was nearly killed by synthetic kryptonite in a matter of moments.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_ManOfTomorrow13g.jpg

He was so weakened by that brief exposure that he couldn't even stand.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...it has been proven that kryptonite does jack nothing to Superman while amped by solar energy.
Haha, what?

I'm just tired of people bringing up Sacrifice, tbh. It's like a broken record at this point.

Yes, Diana did well. Yes, Superman was punching hard.

It's still not a high showing for Superman in terms of combat ability or strategy/tactics.

Originally posted by carver9
He was right at the sun, touching it when he hit WW like that. It was a sun AMPED Superman that did that to her. I just wanted to point out that it was pointless bringing that scene up. Now in regards to Superman being more powerful than her, well, that has been an argument for decades and I will leave that to you all but that one part of the story doesn't indicate that...


He wasn't there long enough to have gotten the amp that you suggest that he may have gotten.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I'm just tired of people bringing up Sacrifice, tbh. It's like a broken record at this point.

Yes, Diana did well. Yes, Superman was punching hard.

It's still not a high showing for Superman in terms of combat ability or strategy/tactics.

Exactly, he was mind controlled, and therefore was not fighting at the best of his ability. a portion of him may have even been fighting to keep his full power at bay. Unfortunately Sacrifice is the only time that I have ever seen Superman aim for the back of Wonder Woman's head (i.e An attempt to punch a hole in her face to the point that his fists touched the back of her head.), outside of an alternate reality Superman choking her to death.

Thats because clark is a good person.

Though tbh this thread makes me wonder how many people have actually been in real fights.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Thats because clark is a good person.

Though tbh this thread makes me wonder how many people have actually been in real fights.

Precisely, but the power disparity is not nullified by the charm of his character. I have been.

Originally posted by Stoic
He wasn't there long enough to have gotten the amp that you suggest that he may have gotten.




what in the world.

Originally posted by carver9
what in the world.
The fight took place in one minute and 23 seconds from earth to sun and back. How much time do you think they were there that superman was amped while facing kryptonite?

Originally posted by abhilegend
He wasn't at the sun, why are you lying? He was facing kryptonite when he punched her. An actually sun amped superman was nearly killed by synthetic kryptonite in a matter of moments.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_ManOfTomorrow13g.jpg

He was so weakened by that brief exposure that he couldn't even stand.

What is your official stance on Kryptonite? Does it cripple Superman in moments iyo?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What is your official stance on Kryptonite? Does it cripple Superman in moments iyo?
Its variable. But even Jeph Loeb who had the weakest opinion of kryptonite has written Superman be massively weakened by kryptonite.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The fight took place in one minute and 23 seconds from earth to sun and back. How much time do you think they were there that superman was amped while facing kryptonite?

The time didn't start when they were on earth.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its variable. But even Jeph Loeb who had the weakest opinion of kryptonite has written Superman be massively weakened by kryptonite.

So iyo Kryptonite would massively cripple Clark almost always?

Originally posted by carver9
The time didn't start when they were on earth.
How many times you are going to repeat that lie carter?

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/OMAC3p01.jpg

Its actually 1 minute and 3 seconds.Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So iyo Kryptonite would massively cripple Clark almost always?
Where are you going with this?

Rage...about to PM you.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Where are you going with this?

Just curious. So do you agree with that assessment?

Rage, beware of exploding scans bro.

Originally posted by carver9
Rage...about to PM you.

How many times do I have to tell you that I don't want pictures of your penis?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How many times do I have to tell you that I don't want pictures of your penis?

I took it from a different angle this time.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Rage, beware of exploding scans bro.

Really ABHI?

Originally posted by carver9
I took it from a different angle this time.

Small is small bro, no optical tricks are going to change that, sorry.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Just curious. So do you agree with that assessment?
Depends upon situation.Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How many times do I have to tell you that I don't want pictures of your penis? Originally posted by carver9
I took it from a different angle this time.


facepalmOriginally posted by carver9
Really ABHI?

Exploding penis then. Happy?

Can we please stop measuring carver's penis? Please...............

Originally posted by abhilegend
Depends upon situation.


facepalm

Exploding penis then. Happy?

Lol.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Can we please stop measuring carver's penis? Please...............

Originally posted by abhilegend
Depends upon situation.

What do you mean? I'm talking just about normal non-amped Superman btw.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What do you mean? I'm talking just about normal non-amped Superman btw.
If its against a normal human/non powered being, he would be very badly affected. If its against some threat which is somewhat near him in power, he can fight its effect for some time.

The degree in which Kryptonite affects Superman is a function of his will.
If the threat is great (Lois is going to die or the world) then Superman resists it very well. But if the threat is minor and someone just wants to disable Superman then IMO it would affect him more.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Who says it's unbreakable? And we already saw Supergirl blast her way out of it. So Supergirl broke the lasso?

How did Superman get here?

Originally posted by Supermex
How did Superman get here? The same way he always does

WW.

Originally posted by h1a8
So Supergirl broke the lasso?

No she just broke free of her hold from WW.

Originally posted by Based
No she just broke free of her hold from WW.

Well that's because the lasso wasn't tied up properly. It was loose as hell. If not, then the only way to break free is by breaking the lasso.

Originally posted by Based
No she just broke free of her hold from WW. Darkseid just yoinked her around like a ragdoll when she lassoed him. As did Strife. Diana herself has escaped a lasso noose. Aquaman didn't seem much slowed down either when Diana lassoed him either.

It's not even clear that the lasso compels you to tell the truth even.

The Hulk vs Wonder Woman?

Sounds like the perfect opportunity to discuss Superman vs Thor!

I kind of find it funny that the Hulk is such a low level character on this forum.

Originally posted by ODG
Darkseid just yoinked her around like a ragdoll when she lassoed him. As did Strife. Diana herself has escaped a lasso noose. Aquaman didn't seem much slowed down either when Diana lassoed him either.

It's not even clear that the lasso compels you to tell the truth even. Agreed about everything, but didn't Hal start making a fool out of himself saying the truth when his foot/leg/whatever touched her lasso?

Originally posted by SouthSpawn
I kind of find it funny that the Hulk is such a low level character on this forum.






Huh?

Originally posted by Supermex
Huh?

Supermex,

I just feel that the Hulk personally is much better than people give him credit for on this site.

Just my opinion though

Originally posted by h1a8
So Supergirl broke the lasso?

No, the lasso wasn't broken.

Diana had the lasso around Supergirl's entire body. Still didn't stop her from breaking free.

She can try the rope on Hulk, but he'd just use it to ragdoll her around.

Hulk would probably grab it and tetherball WW about

Hulk's not Superman. He's not going to get entrapped by it.

Originally posted by Supermex
How did Superman get here?



He CAN fly, you know ...

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Hulk would probably grab it and tetherball WW about

Hulk's not Superman. He's not going to get entrapped by it. WW got bitchslapped by Superman the last time she tried that.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Hulk would probably grab it and tetherball WW about

Hulk's not Superman. He's not going to get entrapped by it.

WW is vastly faster than Hulk. He could be wrapped up before he knows it. He can't grab shit and do anything then as he couldn't move his arms. WW can fly, Hulk can't.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No, the lasso wasn't broken.

Diana had the lasso around Supergirl's entire body. Still didn't stop her from breaking free.

She can try the rope on Hulk, but he'd just use it to ragdoll her around.

No, he won't be able to move his arms. She wraps it around him multiple times.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Agreed about everything, but didn't Hal start making a fool out of himself saying the truth when his foot/leg/whatever touched her lasso? Yes, which would be proof positive absent anything else. But then there's this scene in Wonder Woman #7 where she wraps up Hephaestus and he pretty much denies that the Lasso has such an ability outright:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/Lasso01.jpg

Either Hephaestus is immune to the lasso's powers (something not even remotely hinted at) and he was lying to get a rise out of Diana or it's ambiguous at this point.

Originally posted by h1a8
No, he won't be able to move his arms. She wraps it around him multiple times.

So while Hulk stands there, for some reason, and Wonder Woman hogties him, what prevents him from breaking free?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So while Hulk stands there, for some reason, and Wonder Woman hogties him, what prevents him from breaking free?

The lasso prevents him from breaking free. How would he break free if he's bound tight? If the lasso is loose then he can get out by using leverage (or slack) to maneuver out. But if it's tight then he can't move at all.

Originally posted by ODG
Yes, which would be proof positive absent anything else. But then there's this scene in Wonder Woman #7 where she wraps up Hephaestus and he pretty much denies that the Lasso has such an ability outright:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/Lasso01.jpg

Either Hephaestus is immune to the lasso's powers (something not even remotely hinted at) and he was lying to get a rise out of Diana or it's ambiguous at this point. It is basically saying that the truth isn't Diana's weapon, but intimidation is. No where does it hint the rope not working or it being immune.

Originally posted by h1a8
The lasso prevents him from breaking free. How would he break free if he's bound tight? If the lasso is loose then he can get out by using leverage (or slack) to maneuver out. But if it's tight then he can't move at all.

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r120/Tedirey/NU%20Wonder%20Woman/th_2013-02-2008-36-43-Supergirl17-012.jpg

That's what's going to happen. Except instead of using energy, Hulk's going to flex his magnificent pecks.

Not that Hulk would just sit there as she hog tied him or anything.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r120/Tedirey/NU%20Wonder%20Woman/th_2013-02-2008-36-43-Supergirl17-012.jpg

That's what's going to happen. Except instead of using energy, Hulk's going to flex his magnificent pecks.

Not that Hulk would just sit there as she hog tied him or anything.

Supergirl wasn't tied up well (especially her arms). Remember I said bound tight (no slack to move arms). How can you get out of something without breaking the something without being able to move?

Show the scan where Supergirl is actually tied (before he got out).

Originally posted by h1a8
Supergirl wasn't tied up well (especially her arms). Remember I said bound tight (no slack to move arms). How can you get out of something without breaking the something without being able to move?

Show the scan where Supergirl is actually tied (before he got out).

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r120/Tedirey/NU%20Wonder%20Woman/2013-02-2008-36-42-Supergirl17-011.jpg

She was definitely bound tight or whatever.

DCnU Diana's Lasso is definitely not as powerful as Pre-Flashpoints.

bwahahaha