Ben Affleck is the new BATMAN

Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.



FistOfThe North

S_D_J
Is it April already?

Femi32
mad sad

Bentley
Perfect choice, this will be the best Batman ever.

Based
When I'm on other forums or on my facebook the reactions I'm seeing are on par with people 20 or 30 years younger than they are...

Kazenji
I'll give him a chance

he might improve on from Daredevil.

Ridley_Prime
I'll give it a chance as well (reluctantly), but I doubt too many others will follow suit.

Kazenji
Everyone's jumping on the hate band wagon too quickly

just like how not many thought that Heath Ledger would make a good Joker..Or Daniel Craig a good James Bond.

Bentley
Heath Ledger did a good Joker?


News to me shifty

S_D_J
newsflash:

Matt Damon will play Robin

https://securecdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/594/5314/original.jpg











Being totally honest, I hate the news...


but Ledger proved everyone wrong so...


not holding my breath though

DARTH POWER
I never complained about Ledger. Not really sure why people would. But difference was even though we had seen some great acting from him, we still didn't know everything Ledger was capable of. Can't say the same about Affleck.

Not only have we seen him act for many years now but we've seen him play a brooding superhero before in Daredevil.

As for Craig, the only reason that worked is because they reinvented Bond, and Craig was right for that reinvention. Perhaps they're going to do that for Batman, in a way that Ben would suit it, but then people are going to hate the new Batman. Because doesn't really seem like people want Batman reinvented at this point.

Golgo13
Daredevil was over 10 years ago. He's grown so much as an actor since then and on top of that, the script was a disaster. The same was said about Keaton as Batman and Daniel Craig as the next Bond. Let's face it, a lot of people don't like change and is probably more angry because Bale isn't back. History repeats itself!

http://danielcraigisnotbond.com/boycott_casino_royale.html

Golgo13
Originally posted by Kazenji
Everyone's jumping on the hate band wagon too quickly

just like how not many thought that Heath Ledger would make a good Joker..Or Daniel Craig a good James Bond.

Or Michael Keaton as Batman or Ann as Catwoman or Tom Hardy as Bane, etc... Truth is, this gives Ben more motivation to play Batman and free press to market the movie globally. It's a win, win situation. Everyone is talking about this, good or bad.

BruceSkywalker
absolutely worse choice they could make.. tsujihara is a coward, he could have given the Affleck Duck a different role in order to keep him

Golgo13
lol

Ridley_Prime
What happened to the "I believe in NolanSynder" mentality guiz?!

Kazenji
4EwfoOB30lI

Golgo13
Originally posted by Kazenji
4EwfoOB30lI

thumb up

laughing out loud Truth hurts.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
What happened to the "I believe in NolanSynder" mentality guiz?! It's funny seeing the dc fans turn on him all of a sudden. I like that he is playing Batman.

Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
What happened to the "I believe in NolanSynder" mentality guiz?! It went out the window once Man of Steel sucked.

Kazenji
That's debatable.

BlackZero30x
Everyone always jumps up with the "ledger defense". Now I see a lot of comments about Keaton but the funny thing is where was the "Keaton defense" when ledger was stepping up to play Joker? People are even quick to add Hardy and Hathaway to the list....but they were already good actors. I had no worry they could pull off what was given to them. Unfortunately what they were given were sub par parts. Anyways all im saying is its true that you really can't judge if people are going to fit a part until you see what they do with it but imo its perfectly understandable that people are worried. Ben doesn't exactly have a rep for playing a successful superhero.

And I agree we should wait to see how he does BUT before the casting out crys there were out crys because its a rebooted batman...followed quickly by people complaining about how batman is going to go back to the old films level of cheese. If the majority of people are gonna go into it with the "this will fail" attitude it probably will because they have this preconceived notion. So in short if Ben does not WOW people its going to cost DC's shared universe a lot it in fact might make the studio not want to make a Justice League. Its taken them forever to finally get this moving they might get scared and back off of Justice League. In fact Since Green Lantern was such a flop they are considering leaving him out of Justice League entirely. Im not saying it will suck like GL but im just saying they are definitely scared of losing money and blowing the entire thing.

Based
Because the Ledger defense isn't only about acting skill but it shows how people overreact and whine like 6 year olds when in reality they don't have any means to make an objective opinion.

I don't think Affleck is a good choice at all but ffs let him suck in the role first.

BlackZero30x
Right but in that case where was Reynolds "Ledger defense" for GL?!

Based
What backlash was there? No one cared about GL. People complained that it sucked but that happened after people watched it.

100 percent to the people who said Affleck will suck hasn't seen the movie yet.

Supra
When has Ben Afflek been shown to able express true anger??

Supra
Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne..check

Batman...none of the above

BlackZero30x
Originally posted by Based
What backlash was there? No one cared about GL. People complained that it sucked but that happened after people watched it.

100 percent to the people who said Affleck will suck hasn't seen the movie yet.

What are you talking about?! Most everyone complained about Reynolds as GL before the movie. Then he did a terrible job and that was that. Anyways im not sure your getting it. People can use the Ledger defense and its about half right. Sure you can't really say "Hey that guys gonna suck" until you see it. BUT because a handful of people have proven the fan base (and movie goers) wrong doesn't really mean anything. Ben might have what it takes sure but until he proves otherwise he really doesn't look like a good fit and if I were a bigger batman fan then I could see their point. Nobody wants their favorite character to be miss cast or given the GL treatment so they worry and b*tch.


On a side note im ragging on GL a lot but I will say I enjoyed Strong as Sinestro, The way the Rings looked, and I thought the Lantern Corps look and voice acting was great. Thats all the nice I have to say though....

Golgo13
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
What are you talking about?! Most everyone complained about Reynolds as GL before the movie. Then he did a terrible job and that was that. Anyways im not sure your getting it. People can use the Ledger defense and its about half right. Sure you can't really say "Hey that guys gonna suck" until you see it. BUT because a handful of people have proven the fan base (and movie goers) wrong doesn't really mean anything. Ben might have what it takes sure but until he proves otherwise he really doesn't look like a good fit and if I were a bigger batman fan then I could see their point. Nobody wants their favorite character to be miss cast or given the GL treatment so they worry and b*tch.


On a side note im ragging on GL a lot but I will say I enjoyed Strong as Sinestro, The way the Rings looked, and I thought the Lantern Corps look and voice acting was great. Thats all the nice I have to say though....

GL sucked because of the story/script. Just look at Parallax. lol. Heath Ledger is hardly the only example of fans complaining.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
just found these and wasn;t even looking..

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/KATSUMOTO121/batmanbatgirlrobin.jpg


http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/KATSUMOTO121/oobviCG.jpg

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/KATSUMOTO121/ulton.jpg

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/KATSUMOTO121/BSUiGEwCUAA2CWSjpglarge.jpg

Golgo13
Casey Affleck as Batgirl? I like. stick out tongue

BlackZero30x
Originally posted by Golgo13
GL sucked because of the story/script. Just look at Parallax. lol. Heath Ledger is hardly the only example of fans complaining.

Even if everything else was golden the movie would have suffered from the choice in actor. Also never said Ledger was......not ever nor anything close. I refer to it as the Ledger defense because he's the most commonly mentioned when this kind of thing is brought up.

Golgo13
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Even if everything else was golden the movie would have suffered from the choice in actor. Also never said Ledger was......not ever nor anything close. I refer to it as the Ledger defense because he's the most commonly mentioned when this kind of thing is brought up.

It should be Michael Keaton as well. If he was cast and there was the internet, people would go ape shit as well. Agree to disagree, but Affleck will do fine.

BlackZero30x
Originally posted by Golgo13
It should be Michael Keaton as well. If he was cast and there was the internet, people would go ape shit as well. Agree to disagree, but Affleck will do fine.

Yeah I won't disagree. Im just using the phrase because when you say "The Ledger defense" people will most likely know what you mean. So it could be phrased "The Ledger/Keaton defense" or whatever you want really. As far as Ben goes maybe he will but I can understand the worry surrounding the issue. Im not as big a Batman fan as I was a few years ago....I mean I still like him a good deal im just not "in like with him" anymore lol But he has a HUGE fan following so I ca understand the worry. I mean if it was announced that The Flash was to be played by Tom Cruise then yeah he might work no one could know until he does it but im sure as hell not going to be happy about it lol.

Also don't get me wrong on Reynolds I think hes a decent enough actor but he wasn't Hal Jordan imo.

EDIT: also As I said earlier I didn't see a lot of people going off about how Keaton proved us all wrong when Ledger hate was coming out either. So It seems it got popular with ledger.

Golgo13
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Yeah I won't disagree. Im just using the phrase because when you say "The Ledger defense" people will most likely know what you mean. So it could be phrased "The Ledger/Keaton defense" or whatever you want really. As far as Ben goes maybe he will but I can understand the worry surrounding the issue. Im not as big a Batman fan as I was a few years ago....I mean I still like him a good deal im just not "in like with him" anymore lol But he has a HUGE fan following so I ca understand the worry. I mean if it was announced that The Flash was to be played by Tom Cruise then yeah he might work no one could know until he does it but im sure as hell not going to be happy about it lol.

Also don't get me wrong on Reynolds I think hes a decent enough actor but he wasn't Hal Jordan imo.

EDIT: also As I said earlier I didn't see a lot of people going off about how Keaton proved us all wrong when Ledger hate was coming out either. So It seems it got popular with ledger.

That's because it was so long ago and Ledger is still rather fresh in people's minds. If Michael Keaton was cast as Batman (at the same time in his career), people would piss all over the news. Before Batman, he was a comedic actor for the most part, but it turned out to be gold and IMHO my favorite Batman (not Bruce).

wilco
Christian Bale was very good at Batman, though Ben Affleck has done some good acting in the past




I was going to post youtube links, though you can't here on this forum...great! miffed

Based
Originally posted by BlackZero30x

EDIT: also As I said earlier I didn't see a lot of people going off about how Keaton proved us all wrong when Ledger hate was coming out either. So It seems it got popular with ledger.

Freaking Keaton did this in 1989...
Heath was recent. If you have an issue calling it the Ledger defense then sure we'll rename it to the "stop overreacting until you watch the movie" defense.

Supra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V98WHZNTRpo

This is who should be batman

Supra
Originally posted by Kazenji
Everyone's jumping on the hate band wagon too quickly

just like how not many thought that Heath Ledger would make a good Joker..Or Daniel Craig a good James Bond.

I knew Heath could play him, I knew Daniel could, I have all doubts that Ben can play Batman..

Why cant he play Batman??

1. Hes Ben Affleck
2. He already ruined DareDevil
3. That Boston accent he's so proud of and will never get it under control for any movie.
4. Id rather see Matt Damon as Batman
5. He's to pretty looking. Looks like a Channel Model.
6. He is not batman and never will be..i

Why would they pair a new superman up with a old Actor? You didn't see Jor-el and Kal-El competing for screen time.. they both had there places and did it right.

Kazenji
Originally posted by Supra

2. He already ruined DareDevil



He didn't ruin Daredevil at all


roll eyes (sarcastic)........yet another one to add to that ever growing list who hasn't watched the Director's cut.

DARTH POWER
The actor alone will not ruin the character or the movie. There's lots of factors. Fact is Tobey Maguire was not suited to play Spider-Man Imho. But that alone was not going to ruin the movie. (And it certainly wasn't Reynolds fault that Green Lantern sucked either).

Whilst Affleck is 100 times the actor Macguire is, and has the physique for the part as well as the passion to get it right. So I've changed my mind on the subject now and think we should give the guy a chance.

BlackZero30x
Originally posted by Based
Freaking Keaton did this in 1989...
Heath was recent. If you have an issue calling it the Ledger defense then sure we'll rename it to the "stop overreacting until you watch the movie" defense.

Im pretty sure you are not reading my posts entirely....

Anyways your point is? I said "I don't recall hearing the "Keaton defense" to back up Ledger when he was getting blasted. The only thing that being from 89 proves is most likely Ledger made it a popular thing then someone thought back to Keatons time and said "hey same thing happened with Keaton!" In that case im absolutely right, it was Ledger that made it popular....hence why I call it The Ledger Defense. As for calling it the "stop overreacting until you watch the movie" defense....well thats kinda long so it kinda contradicts the reason in naming it. wink

Like I said earlier I can understand what people are so upset about. This is BATMAN he has a huge fan following both comic nerds(me included) and general public and everyone wants him to be perfect. Casting an oddball like Ben is certainly going to cause them panic or worry. My personal opinion surrounding Ben himself is I don't think he fits but he may possibly do it. My more general opinion is that its a risk casting an oddball because there is already hate surrounding this movie. People are mad Batmans being rebooted so soon, mad that hes not going to be like Nolans, scared it will have the Bat nips level of cheese, and (now that I think about it) Man of Steel seems to have been split among the audience. Now you add someone that a lot of people are going to be like "WTF" to play Batman. At least if they had cast someone that people would have gone "Damn good choice!" it could have made the haters at least calm down a little but instead its making them even more nervous now. Preconceived hate can be a hard thing to over come if there is enough of it. People may start going crazy at nit picking it simply because of that alone.

BlackZero30x
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
The actor alone will not ruin the character or the movie. There's lots of factors. Fact is Tobey Maguire was not suited to play Spider-Man Imho. But that alone was not going to ruin the movie. (And it certainly wasn't Reynolds fault that Green Lantern sucked either).

Whilst Affleck is 100 times the actor Macguire is, and has the physique for the part as well as the passion to get it right. So I've changed my mind on the subject now and think we should give the guy a chance.

I thought Maguire made a fine Peter Parker but an awful Spider-Man. As for GL...well yeah he wasn't the only thing but he certainly was a good Hal imo. What ruined Spider-Man for me was he felt less like Spider-Man due to how his character was written. lol

Supra
Originally posted by Kazenji
He didn't ruin Daredevil at all


roll eyes (sarcastic)........yet another one to add to that ever growing list who hasn't watched the Director's cut.

The directors cut saved the movie?

FistOfThe North
Originally posted by Bentley
Perfect choice, this will be the best Batman ever.

You mean the best "Batman Forever".

lol all I see is the George Clooney thing happening again..

FistOfThe North
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
absolutely worse choice they could make.. tsujihara is a coward, he could have given the Affleck Duck a different role in order to keep him

Even worse than Michael Keaton?

FistOfThe North
Originally posted by Supra
Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne..check

Batman...none of the above

With Afflecks's Bruce I feel I'll still just see Ben Affleck more than i'd see Bruce Wayne..

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Even worse than Michael Keaton?


at least keaton was Mr. Mom laughing out loud

Supra
This is headache just thinking about it

Kazenji
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
You mean the best "Batman Forever".

lol all I see is the George Clooney thing happening again..

It wasn't George Clooney's fault his Batman movie sucked.

Doctorwho?
I know this isn't that relevant but I guess when it comes down to it, it is, but when Matt Smith was cast as The Doctor, I hated him, then after a while I thought what the hell, and watched his episodes and he was awesome. So what I'm saying, wait till Batman Vs Superman (or whatever they are gonna call it) and see how Affleck is as Batman

Doctorwho?
Originally posted by Kazenji
It wasn't George Clooney's fault his Batman movie sucked.

It was that hack Joel Schamacher or whatever is name is, made the movie too campy to even be enjoyable to anyone over the age of 8.

FistOfThe North
Originally posted by Doctorwho?
It was that hack Joel Schamacher or whatever is name is, made the movie too campy to even be enjoyable to anyone over the age of 8.

Maybe because the movies was, in actuality, a long toy commercial, really..

Doctorwho?
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Maybe because the movies was, in actuality, a long toy commercial, really..

Yeah, I remember having a few of the toys as a kid.

DARTH POWER
Originally posted by Kazenji
It wasn't George Clooney's fault his Batman movie sucked.


He was the wrong guy to play the role and clearly didn't get the character. Don't know if that's his fault, but even without getting into how bad the story and script was in that movie, Batman himself was portrayed really badly in that movie.

Golgo13
Yeah, it was mainly the horrible script they got. He could have played a decent Batman, IMO.

FistOfThe North
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
He was the wrong guy to play the role and clearly didn't get the character. Don't know if that's his fault, but even without getting into how bad the story and script was in that movie, Batman himself was portrayed really badly in that movie.

And that's what I meant in my earlier post regarding Affleck and it seeming like the whole George Clooney thing all over again but without the camp.

Both were clearly bad picks for the character. They're just not gruff enough to be Batman. They're passable Bruce Wayne's. And I'm being very kind there.

I still can't believe it actually. Like I chuckle at times, out of the blue while smh about this. Like it hasn't sunk in. Like i'm in denial mixed with maybe he'll quit because of all the outrage or the casting director may chose someone else because of the outrage or him/her finally seeing the light.

Femi32
Originally posted by Doctorwho?
It was that hack Joel Schamacher or whatever is name is, made the movie too campy to even be enjoyable to anyone over the age of 8.

The ultimate blame goes to Warner Brothers. Since Batman Returns received backlash for being too dark for children, WB didn't want the same thing to happen again. They fired Burton, hired Schumacher, Keaton left (due to a campy script), and it all fell down from there. WB told Schumacher to make the last two Batman movies campy at every turn. Schumacher apologized for his role in ruining Batman.

Schumacher is an accomplice to this tragedy, but he at least could've made a good Batman movie as evidenced by Batman Forever. If WB didn't demand camp, it would've been really good.

FistOfThe North
Originally posted by Femi32
They fired Burton, hired Schumacher, Keaton left (due to a campy script),

You didn't think Batman '89 was campy? Cause it was..

Kazenji
But it did have its moments of it dark that one.

Based
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Im pretty sure you are not reading my posts entirely....

I'm not sure if I want to completely read posts about grown men complaining like a 3 year olds about something not even created it so you're right there.



Let's stop acting like 3 year olds here. You know what parents say that goes along the lines of "try it before you hate it?"

I get that on the internet this is far too logical but the complaining is half assed too. Like seriously..



This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Then people just stop hating until they see the thing. Then write all the posts you want because then it's validated by reason. Like that's not even trying, that's just admitting flat out bias and being angry for the sake of being angry.

EDIT: I mean this in a general sense and isn't directed at any particular 3 year olds.

BlackZero30x
Originally posted by Based
I'm not sure if I want to completely read posts about grown men complaining like a 3 year olds about something not even created it so you're right there.



Let's stop acting like 3 year olds here. You know what parents say that goes along the lines of "try it before you hate it?"

I get that on the internet this is far too logical but the complaining is half assed too. Like seriously..



This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Then people just stop hating until they see the thing. Then write all the posts you want because then it's validated by reason. Like that's not even trying, that's just admitting flat out bias and being angry for the sake of being angry.

EDIT: I mean this in a general sense and isn't directed at any particular 3 year olds.

If your not going to read an entire post before you respond then you just shouldn't because it makes you seem as if you don't comprehend what the person is talking about........kind of like right now.

The Internet is a big place full of complaints about everything.....Especially on a discussion forum. If you don't like it don't read it. Trying to change someones opinion because you think "they are acting like a 3 year old" is even more pointless then those people having the opinion.

roll eyes (sarcastic) When people have enough hate for something before it comes out, no matter the form of entertainment, they do tend to be bias and will nit pick ANYTHING to fit their objective point of view. For most people it takes a lot to let that go...or more to the point really great acting, script, effects....ect. Your trying to say "don't hate it until you try it" the problem with that is it happens and it always will...with practically everything. People find things they hate and they use it to nit pick. Like I said preconceived hate is a hard thing to over come. So if thats the dumbest thing you have ever heard then I doubt you have heard many things in your life. I get your point and have from the start. Nor have I actually been arguing with you. Point is while it is a decent point its just not how most people behave.

Sabretooth
DC is between a rock and a hard place no matter what they do here. Problem one is that Christian Bale's Batman movies were well-liked and fairly recent, so people will be comparing the new Batman to Bale's Batman. Problem two is that Robert Downey Jr's Avengers and Iron Man movies were also well-liked and even more recent, so people will be comparing the new Batman to Downey Jr's Iron Man. It is totally understandable that DC would want an accomplished actor to represent their most popular character, and right now Affleck is hot because of Argo. He wouldn't have been my first choice, but there aren't many others I can see as both Batman and Wayne that could do a better job. I read rumors of Ryan Gosling and Matt Damon, and I prefer Affleck to either of them. To their credit, DC offered Bale $50 million to reprise his role and he turned them down. I'm not sure they had a better choice.

And for the record: Green Lantern, Daredevil, Batman Forever and Batman and Robin were all so horrible it wouldn't have mattered who the actors were in the lead roles.

FistOfThe North
Originally posted by Sabretooth
And for the record: Green Lantern, Daredevil, Batman Forever and Batman and Robin were all so horrible it wouldn't have mattered who the actors were in the lead roles.

I don't think Daredevil belongs in that group, imo. I thought it was a good comic book movie. It definitely wasn't catwoman or green lantern or BF horrible..

Mr Parker
Originally posted by Golgo13
Daredevil was over 10 years ago. He's grown so much as an actor since then and on top of that, the script was a disaster. The same was said about Keaton as Batman and Daniel Craig as the next Bond. Let's face it, a lot of people don't like change and is probably more angry because Bale isn't back. History repeats itself!

http://danielcraigisnotbond.com/boycott_casino_royale.html

excet as any true Batman fan knows,they were rigtly so outraged over Keaton as Batman,one of the worst casting choices ever in comicbook history.While he gave a surprisingly fine performance as Batman-Batman,not bruce wayne,He was totally miscast in the role so physically wrong for the part.That destoryed the credibility of the two films.

Affleck like Bale,physically fits the part.

Mr Parker
Originally posted by Sabretooth


And for the record: Green Lantern, Daredevil, Batman Forever and Batman and Robin were all so horrible it wouldn't have mattered who the actors were in the lead roles.

You left out a couple of others as well.Batman 89 and Batman Returns were horrible and need to be included in that group as well.

Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are the only two good Batman films ever made.

Heath Ledger did a good Joker?


News to me
Let me guess,you ALSO believe Michael Keaton was great as Bruce wayne also right? laughing laughing out loud rolling on floor laughing laughing


Originally posted by Kazenji
Everyone's jumping on the hate band wagon too quickly

just like how not many thought that Heath Ledger would make a good Joker..Or Daniel Craig a good James Bond.


Originally posted by Kazenji
Everyone's jumping on the hate band wagon too quickly

just like how not many thought that Heath Ledger would make a good Joker..Or Daniel Craig a good James Bond.


mindless drivel from you as always. roll eyes (sarcastic) Heath Ledger not a good Joker,Daniel Craig not a good James Bond.Great fairy tales.any more jokes for the day? laughing laughing laughing out loud rolling on floor laughing laughing out loud

Craig was so bad as Bond the last James Bond film only was the biggest money maker ever in the Bond series and The Dark Knight was only the biggest grossing film of all time I believe.Yep good evidence there that they were bad in their roles.lol.thats on par for you of course though.lol. no surprise.lol.

Mr Parker
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
With Afflecks's Bruce I feel I'll still just see Ben Affleck more than i'd see Bruce Wayne..

Unlike Bale,Affleck will have his work cut out for him.The Burton/schmacher franchise was screed from the very beginning with Mr skinny runt,short,half bald receding hairline Michael keaton as batman who surprisingly,was a good batman,just a lousy and unbelieveable Bruce wayne.

Here's how the actors fared that played Batman in that god awful Burton/schumacher nightmare franchise.

Keaton-Very good Batman but a lousy Bruce Wayne.
Kilmer-Very good Bruce Wayne but a lousy Batman
Clooney-Lousy as BOTH BATMAN AND ROBIN.

Bale -excelled as BOTH Bruce Wayne and Batman

therefore at the moment,is the one and only true Batman.

So unlike Bale,Affleck has his work cut out for him and some big shoes to fill where contrary to the belief of Batman fans,Bale was not in that situation.

Mr Parker
Originally posted by Femi32
The ultimate blame goes to Warner Brothers. Since Batman Returns received backlash for being too dark for children, WB didn't want the same thing to happen again. They fired Burton, hired Schumacher, Keaton left (due to a campy script), and it all fell down from there. WB told Schumacher to make the last two Batman movies campy at every turn. Schumacher apologized for his role in ruining Batman.

Schumacher is an accomplice to this tragedy, but he at least could've made a good Batman movie as evidenced by Batman Forever. If WB didn't demand camp, it would've been really good.

very well said.best post on here bar none. Happy Dance rock thumb up

Everyone says Schumacher was to blame for the downfall of the Batman franchise but it was REALLY Burtons Batman Returns that started the downfall of it all.

Like you said so well ,Batman Returns received backlash from parents rightly so,because it was way too dark and far younger audiences.

The first one didnt go anywhere to the extremes of violence that Batman Returns did.Batman Returns took a dip at the box office because thats when movies goers started raising eyebrows was because of Batman Returns,not Batman Forever.

Batman Forever was more light on the violence,they got smart about that,but got too campy with it as well.

Then Scumacher,REALLY took it to the extremes with the god awful Batman and Robin which again,like you said,he at least apologized for that film.Batman Forver was actually fairly good,just too campy at times.

juggerman
Originally posted by Mr Parker
mindless drivel from you as always. roll eyes (sarcastic) Heath Ledger not a good Joker,Daniel Craig not a good James Bond.Great fairy tales.any more jokes for the day? laughing laughing laughing out loud rolling on floor laughing laughing out loud

Craig was so bad as Bond the last James Bond film only was the biggest money maker ever in the Bond series and The Dark Knight was only the biggest grossing film of all time I believe.Yep good evidence there that they were bad in their roles.lol.thats on par for you of course though.lol. no surprise.lol.

I'm pretty sure you missed what he said

0mega Spawn
Ben Affleck been batman you fools.what? You think he was just disappearing from the big screen because hes a shitty actor? Ha! Fools.

darkriddle
Some people can't envision Ben as the new batman, that included me. Here, I have created a photo-shop drawing via a manip to see what Ben Affleck would look like as the new batman.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/qcym.jpg/

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/8852/qcym.jpg

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

DARTH POWER
For some reason that looks like John Travolta.

darkriddle
LOL. I actually agree, but that is in fact, Ben Affleck. I'm just surprised there's not one photo-mash of that crazy insurance Affleck Duck in a Batman suit -is there????

iscaremonkeys
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130331081617/marvel_dc/images/thumb/0/01/Batman-injustice.png/500px-Batman-injustice.png
=
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/04/Daredevil_poster.JPG/200px-Daredevil_poster.JPG

FistOfThe North
Originally posted by Mr Parker
excet as any true Batman fan knows,they were rigtly so outraged over Keaton as Batman,one of the worst casting choices ever in comicbook history.While he gave a surprisingly fine performance as Batman-Batman,not bruce wayne,He was totally miscast in the role so physically wrong for the part.That destoryed the credibility of the two films.

Affleck like Bale,physically fits the part.

Hey Parker. Long time.

Still gnawing on that old Keaton/Batman '89 bone, I see..

RedX1852
Ben Affleck has a Chance

Mr Parker
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
For some reason that looks like John TrQUOTavolta.
Oh my gosh,he does. big grin

Mr Parker
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Hey Parker. Long time.

Still gnawing on that old Keaton/Batman '89 bone, I see..

yeah I guess so. big grin anyways Affleck unlike Bale did,WILL have his work cut out for him trying to live up to Bale the one and only true Bruce Wayne/Batman actor since unlike the rest,he was great in BOTH roles.

Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.