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Marvel NOW feats only for Thor. Who wins?

Limiting it only to Marvel Now is a lot more fair to Superman but the Odinson still wins imho.

Thor in a good fight

Speed blitz.

Thor atm but current superman stocks are rising. Only glaring magic weakness (remember that ocean master magical lightning) pulls him down.

Superman

Originally posted by iceman24567
Superman

thor with a blitz

Split.

Originally posted by Supermex
Thor in a good fight

Thor for now.

Superman for now.
P.S. You picked some good picture for Thor

Thor but it's close

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor but it's close

Originally posted by Warlord
thor with a blitz

Split.

Originally posted by Warlord
thor with a blitz



Yeah, the Odinson.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Had to be done.

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Marvel NOW feats only for Thor. Who wins?
Thor due to better art on the OP.

Thor due to that enchanting tilt of his hips.

Marvel NOW Thor has had some pretty decent feats/ I'd go so far as to say that they're some of his best in the last few years.

Thor wins, solidly.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Superman
Probably, yeah. Especially if we limit it to Marvel Now appearances only.

Originally posted by zopzop
Probably, yeah. Especially if we limit it to Marvel Now appearances only.

Thor's feats in his current series have been pretty awesome. That last issue with Gorr was better then anything Superman's done as far as I know. I don't think he's benched any planet's but there's his fight with Gorr so strength isn't an issue. The fact that it occurred as he was getting stabbed to holy hell by Gorr is particularly noteworthy.

I wonder how strong Gorr is. Probably pretty ridiculous in his own right seeing as how he wrested with King Thor alone could throw a planet into a black hole. Gorr also killed this guy:
http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16629253_Thor_003-Zone-008.jpg

Marvel Now's Thor is well above his average.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Marvel Now's Thor is well above his average. Well above is kinda pushing it

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor's feats in his current series have been pretty awesome. That last issue with Gorr was better then anything Superman's done as far as I know. I don't think he's benched any planet's but there's his fight with Gorr so strength isn't an issue. The fact that it occurred as he was getting stabbed to holy hell by Gorr is particularly noteworthy.

I wonder how strong Gorr is. Probably pretty ridiculous in his own right seeing as how he wrested with King Thor alone could throw a planet into a black hole. Gorr also killed this guy:
http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16629253_Thor_003-Zone-008.jpg
I'm aware of that scan but it doesn't change my opinion. DCNu Superman in a close fight, for now.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor's feats in his current series have been pretty awesome. That last issue with Gorr was better then anything Superman's done as far as I know. I don't think he's benched any planet's but there's his fight with Gorr so strength isn't an issue. The fact that it occurred as he was getting stabbed to holy hell by Gorr is particularly noteworthy.

I wonder how strong Gorr is. Probably pretty ridiculous in his own right seeing as how he wrested with King Thor alone could throw a planet into a black hole. Gorr also killed this guy:

Really? Superman while heavily weakened by red sun and several forms of kryptonite fought evenly with a 5-D imp.

Originally posted by abhilegend
While on the other hand Superman is fighting and defeating an evil 5-d imp.

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15576121_2013-03-20_07-29-30_-_Action_Comics_18-004.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15576123_2013-03-20_07-29-32_-_Action_Comics_18-005.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15576126_2013-03-20_07-29-35_-_Action_Comics_18-006.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15576128_2013-03-20_07-29-48_-_Action_Comics_18-011.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15576130_2013-03-20_07-29-50_-_Action_Comics_18-012.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15576132_2013-03-20_07-30-00_-_Action_Comics_18-016.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15576133_2013-03-20_07-30-02_-_Action_Comics_18-017.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15576136_2013-03-20_07-30-03_-_Action_Comics_18-018.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15576137_2013-03-20_07-30-05_-_Action_Comics_18-019.jpg


If you are trying to out-feat superman, he lifted the whole 5th dimension as a baby. Just mxy's hat contains the whole DC universe.

@ morrison.

Superman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Really? Superman while heavily weakened by red sun and several forms of kryptonite fought evenly with a 5-D imp.



If you are trying to out-feat superman, he lifted the whole 5th dimension as a baby. Just mxy's hat contains the whole DC universe.

@ morrison.

How was that evenly? Aside from tossing a bus against Mxy, he spent the entire fight getting beat up by different aspects of him. Power wise, the fight with Gorr was more impressive than that fight but whatever, that's an entirely different argument.

Scans of both instances please.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How was that evenly? Aside from tossing a bus against Mxy, he spent the entire fight getting beat up by different aspects of him. Power wise, the fight with Gorr was more impressive than that fight but whatever, that's an entirely different argument.

Scans of both instances please.




True, Gorr fight was more impressive..

Can't Thor just B.F.R Superman?

Originally posted by abhilegend
If you are trying to out-feat superman, he lifted the whole 5th dimension as a baby. Just mxy's hat contains the whole DC universe.

@ morrison.

When did Superman lift the hat?

Originally posted by ares834
When did Superman lift the hat?

I think his reasoning is that since Mxy's hat contains the Multiverse and he lifted the 5th dimension, it means that he lifted even more then the Multiverse.

Which personally I find a ridiculous leap based on the entire nature of Mxy's powers and the 5th dimension but that's just me.

facepalm

Oh.

He said he lifted the fifth dimension not the hat... Still don't remember seeing that though.

Thor. Claiming the DeM victory against Vyndktvx as some kind of strength/power feat is one of the most dishonest things I've seen lately.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How was that evenly? Aside from tossing a bus against Mxy, he spent the entire fight getting beat up by different aspects of him. Power wise, the fight with Gorr was more impressive than that fight but whatever, that's an entirely different argument.

Scans of both instances please.
First that wasn't mxy. And Superman was fighting superdoom and Vyndktyvyx in separate instances. He was fighting a 5-D imp in past, present and future at the same time and holding his own after being heavily weakened. That's way above Thor's paygrade. What did Gorr did to compare Vynd killing 5-D king and putting Mxy in coma.

Would post soon.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Thor. Claiming the DeM victory against Vyndktvx as some kind of strength/power feat is one of the most dishonest things I've seen lately.
Haha, what? I said he hold himself in a fight against a 5-D imp not that he beat him straight up. Your hate for me is amusing though.

If by New 52 Superman you mean baby Kal, then Thor might have a chance for a win here and there. Otherwise he loses every time against Superman.

biscuits

Originally posted by Badabing
If by New 52 Superman you mean baby Kal, then Thor might have a chance for a win here and there. Otherwise he loses every time against Superman.

biscuits

Originally posted by abhilegend
First that wasn't mxy. And Superman was fighting superdoom and Vyndktyvyx in separate instances. He was fighting a 5-D imp in past, present and future at the same time and holding his own after being heavily weakened. That's way above Thor's paygrade. What did Gorr did to compare Vynd killing 5-D king and putting Mxy in coma.

Would post soon.

Oops, my bad. Also f*ck 5th Dimension names.

How is that way above Thor's pay grade? In the scans you posted, Superman mostly gets beat up by Doomsday, I don't understand why that is something Thor can't accomplish. Even that one page where we see Vyn blasting Superman is a superdelusion brought about by Red K.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Oops, my bad. Also f*ck 5th Dimension names.

How is that way above Thor's pay grade? In the scans you posted, Superman mostly gets beat up by Doomsday, I don't understand why that is something Thor can't accomplish. Even that one page where we see Vyn blasting Superman is a superdelusion brought about by Red K.


You are dismissed as a comics fan if you think so rage.

Because Superman was fighting Vynd across time and space simultaneously. It was an endless fight and fighting such an enemy for such a long time is above Thor's paygrade. Morrison's superman is just that powerful. ****, he had superman and ultraman powering the cosmic armor once. That's like the best power showing from any herald character ever.

Originally posted by abhilegend


You are dismissed as a comics fan if you think so rage.

Because Superman was fighting Vynd across time and space simultaneously. It was an endless fight and fighting such an enemy for such a long time is above Thor's paygrade. Morrison's superman is just that powerful. ****, he had superman and ultraman powering the cosmic armor once. That's like the best power showing from any herald character ever.

Okay.

In the scans you posted, Superman was getting beat up by Doomsday while suffering from super-delusions. Which like I said is impressive, but not anywhere near the scale of power of the Gorr/Thor fight. Did you leave something out?

Not only is this strictly 52, Quantum Superman said nothing of the sort.

Abhi, don't tell me this is the instance you were referring to where baby Superman "lifts" the 5th dimension...

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16632081_2013-03-20_07-30-17_-_Action_Comics_18-025.jpg

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Okay.

In the scans you posted, Superman was getting beat up by Doomsday while suffering from super-delusions. Which like I said is impressive, but not anywhere near the scale of power of the Gorr/Thor fight. Did you leave something out?

Not only is this strictly 52, Quantum Superman said nothing of the sort.
He was fighting Vynd across space-time as he himself said here.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15576132/2013-03-20_07-30-00_-_Action_Comics_18-016.jpg.html

Vynd was fighting superman across time and space at once. Its MUCH more impressive than Gorr fight.


Haha, you really are a true thorbag. Quantum superman fused Superman and Ultraman together and broad-costed it to the cosmic armor.

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16632082_11.jpg

Originally posted by ares834
Abhi, don't tell me this is the instance you were referring to where baby Superman "lifts" the 5th dimension...

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16632081_2013-03-20_07-30-17_-_Action_Comics_18-025.jpg
Yes, that's why I was laughing at morrison. Mxy's hat contained the whole universe in it and he pulled it every now and then to enjoy the king. It wasn't by Mxy's power since the king could also see the whole universe by wearing it.

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Its best not to think what morrison was trying to portray there. Its just absurd.

Originally posted by ares834
Abhi, don't tell me this is the instance you were referring to where baby Superman "lifts" the 5th dimension...

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16632081_2013-03-20_07-30-17_-_Action_Comics_18-025.jpg



For some reason, I don't think what Morrison intended to portray is what Abhil is seeing.

Originally posted by Badabing
If by New 52 Superman you mean baby Kal, then Thor might have a chance for a win here and there. Otherwise he loses every time against Superman.

biscuits

Lies. Superman doesn't have the power of the red underwear in the DCnu. Thor dominates

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus


For some reason, I don't think what Morrison intended to portray is what Abhil is seeing.

You didn't actually think abhi was being honest/unbiased, did you?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus


For some reason, I don't think what Morrison intended to portray is what Abhil is seeing.
Your puny minds can't see the actual meaning of Morrison's intent, puny thorbag.

sneer

Originally posted by abhilegend
He was fighting Vynd across space-time as he himself said here.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15576132/2013-03-20_07-30-00_-_Action_Comics_18-016.jpg.html

Vynd was fighting superman across time and space at once. Its MUCH more impressive than Gorr fight.


Haha, you really are a true thorbag. Quantum superman fused Superman and Ultraman together and broad-costed it to the cosmic armor.

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16632082_11.jpg

So Vyd had fought different incarnations of Superman in the past through completely unknown agents or means and off-panel. I don't understand why you think that bears much relevance to what happened in their current fight? It's not as if Superman is further weakened or something by their past encounters.

In what way? All we saw was Superman getting beat up by Doomsday and Vyn's other accomplices which again is awesome in terms of fortitude but I don't understand why you think any of that is a superior showing of raw power to Thor smashing planets by bashing Gorr's face in? Complicated =/= More impressive.

"Enough energy in my hands to broadcast his pure essence to a receiver in a higher dimension."

The energy was used as the source to transmit Superman, smh.

LOL at ABHI scans.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So Vyd had fought different incarnations of Superman in the past through completely unknown agents or means and off-panel. I don't understand why you think that bears much relevance to what happened in their current fight? It's not as if Superman is further weakened or something by their past encounters.

In what way? All we saw was Superman getting beat up by Doomsday and Vyn's other accomplices which again is awesome in terms of fortitude but I don't understand why you think any of that is a superior showing of raw power to Thor smashing planets by bashing Gorr's face in? Complicated =/= More impressive.

"Enough energy in my hands to broadcast his pure essence to a receiver in a higher dimension."

The energy was used as the source to transmit Superman, smh.
No, he fought superman across time simultaneously. Just like this.

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16632088_Action_15_TheGroup_025.jpg

You are again unable to grasp something beyond "hit 'em with mjolnir" comics.

In the way that superman fought an enemy across time who was universal+ in power and held his own. I really doubt Gorr was even galactic level in power.


Haha, you are really blind. What is the essence of superman anyway? When the armor broke down, superman and ultraman were released physically from it. No essence or whatever other shit.

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16632086_25.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16632087_26.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
LOL at ABHI scans.
Riding on dem coattails again?

Lulz carver has some nerves to laugh at peoples misleading scans

Originally posted by abhilegend
Riding on dem coattails again?

Originally posted by carver9
What is a coattail?

Superman wins.

Eventually this fight is going to lead into the sun, either by Thor knocking Superman into it (like he did so against Gorr), or by Superman taking the fight with Thor to the Sun.

An amped sundipped-Superman would then proceed to destroy Thor.

I give it to Thor NOW, 7/10. Nu Supes' durability hasn't impressed me much, especially where magic is concerned.

Originally posted by quab
Superman wins.

Eventually this fight is going to lead into the sun, either by Thor knocking Superman into it (like he did so against Gorr), or by Superman taking the fight with Thor to the Sun.

An amped sundipped-Superman would then proceed to destroy Thor.

both characters have basic knowledge for each other. if that means thor knows supes is solar powered then i doubt he will stay close to the sun.

LOL..Abhi is going all Miley Cyrus on us...

The mask appears from no where with a giant bendy mallet, owns thor, and then gives Clark a broken face.

Strengh:

Superman : lifted the weight of the earth, and punched harder than it. In the other hand, the punch only made noise around the world and was felt in the center of planet. Not sure what would happen if he punched more time with This strengh.

Thor: the colateral effect of his attacks almost destroyed a planet/moon.

Speed:

Superman: Can fly to others planet in seconds. Also, he can fight and do other things in Superspeed.

Thor: can fly lightyears in seconds. Not sure how fast is his "combat speed"

Durability:

Superman: What is the best feat ?

Thor: Can go to a Sun without problem, be tortured for many days and still be able to fight.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, he fought superman across time simultaneously. Just like this.

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16632088_Action_15_TheGroup_025.jpg

You are again unable to grasp something beyond "hit 'em with mjolnir" comics.

In the way that superman fought an enemy across time who was universal+ in power and held his own. I really doubt Gorr was even galactic level in power.


Haha, you are really blind. What is the essence of superman anyway? When the armor broke down, superman and ultraman were released physically from it. No essence or whatever other shit.

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16632086_25.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16632087_26.jpg

But it didn't occur simultaneously for Superman, it was a series of encounters he's had so how does it change anything? It's an impressive feat for Vyn because relative to him, all this fights happen at once but that's not what you're saying.

Are you leaving out scans or something? Because in the ones you posted, Superman was beat up by Vyn's recruits. The most impressive feat of physical power in that scan was Doomsday throwing a helicopter and Superman throwing a bus.

I'm guessing his soul/consciousness.

facepalm You want me to believe that Ultraman/Superman powered the Cosmic Armor when the scan you posted very clearly says that their energy was used to transport Superman's being into a higher dimension. You think Ultraman and Superman falling back down to the lower dimensions is evidence of your point? It might be circumstantial evidence to an extent but you need to stop throwing shit around as conclusive facts. It's retarded.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Your puny minds can't see the actual meaning of Morrison's intent, puny thorbag.

sneer

You....you think this scan of a baby Kal-El (Powerless mind you) is evidence of him lifting the entire 5th dimension:
Originally posted by ares834
Abhi, don't tell me this is the instance you were referring to where baby Superman "lifts" the 5th dimension...

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16632081_2013-03-20_07-30-17_-_Action_Comics_18-025.jpg

Overlooking the fact that it was his mother who holds up the model (Or do you think she's just that strong too?), the idea that this evidence of what you're saying is......so astoundingly retarded that I cannot even comprehend how you can even entertain this notion with such flimsy evidence and logic.

I'm putting you on ignore. Sorry, but I'm legitimately worried that further communication with you will make me dumber.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvhm5zinKa1ql85u5.gif

Originally posted by Warlord
Lies. Superman doesn't have the power of the red underwear in the DCnu. Thor dominates mmm

Originally posted by iceman24567
Lulz carver has some nerves to laugh at peoples misleading scans

Although in this case the stopped clock is right

Anyone telling me they understand Morrison's true intentions is almost as high as he was when he wrote it, imo.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
But it didn't occur simultaneously for Superman, it was a series of encounters he's had so how does it change anything? It's an impressive feat for Vyn because relative to him, all this fights happen at once but that's not what you're saying.

Are you leaving out scans or something? Because in the ones you posted, Superman was beat up by Vyn's recruits. The most impressive feat of physical power in that scan was Doomsday throwing a helicopter and Superman throwing a bus.

I'm guessing his soul/consciousness.

facepalm You want me to believe that Ultraman/Superman powered the Cosmic Armor when the scan you posted very clearly says that their energy was used to transport Superman's being into a higher dimension. You think Ultraman and Superman falling back down to the lower dimensions is evidence of your point? It might be circumstantial evidence to an extent but you need to stop throwing shit around as conclusive facts. It's retarded.
The fact that superman fought Vuynd several times throughout time and held his own is impressive in itself. Why are you degrading this feat anyway? That's why he was able to figure out how to fight Vynd and banish him.

No, I'm not and that's not the fight between Superman and Vynd. Its a fight between superman and Doomsday while superman and Vynd were fighting on a different plane. Its hard to explain.

Yes, I think its proof of superman and ultraman powering cosmic armor when everything supports it. Either post a proof of its opposite or kindly STFU.Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You....you think this scan of a baby Kal-El (Powerless mind you) is evidence of him lifting the entire 5th dimension:


Overlooking the fact that it was his mother who holds up the model (Or do you think she's just that strong too?), the idea that this evidence of what you're saying is......so astoundingly retarded that I cannot even comprehend how you can even entertain this notion with such flimsy evidence and logic.

I'm putting you on ignore. Sorry, but I'm legitimately worried that further communication with you will make me dumber.
Of course it is a proof of Baby Kal-El lifting the whole 5th dimension. Its on the previous page which he didn't post. I don't have the comic right now.

Blame morrison for it bro, not me.Originally posted by -Pr-
Anyone telling me they understand Morrison's true intentions is almost as high as he was when he wrote it, imo.
That's why I said its impossible to predict what morrison was thinking when he wrote it.

you guys should go on a date

Originally posted by abhilegend

Of course it is a proof of Baby Kal-El lifting the whole 5th dimension. Its on the previous page which he didn't post. I don't have the comic right now.

Blame morrison for it bro, not me.

Nope. The page before is about the death of Mxy's wife and the birth of his children and how the whole story is one convoluted time loop....

Originally posted by ares834
Nope. The page before is about the death of Mxy's wife and the birth of his children and how the whole story is one convoluted time loop....
Yeah, I read the story one more time. Now I need aspirin for my headache.

Originally posted by ares834
Nope. The page before is about the death of Mxy's wife and the birth of his children and how the whole story is one convoluted time loop....



So it never happened?



Typical. I kind of wish it had however because you'd have to make the argument that Kal's mother also lifted the 5th dimension. The stupidity of that notion would make Grant Morrison regret ever writing Superman.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Anyone telling me they understand Morrison's true intentions is almost as high as he was when he wrote it, imo.

That's Morrison for you.

The best I could tell, is Superman was required, but not in a straight power source sense... But more in a metaphysical sense, because of the myth and ideas he represented...

In A Good fight and a long Slug Fest i say Thor wins i mean he Has Magic but Supes does stand a chance with his "Speed Blitz"

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, I read the story one more time. Now I need aspirin for my headache.

I read that story once and immediately experienced vertigo.

Originally posted by deathlife
I read that story once and immediately experienced vertigo.

Which is to say, Constantine appeared, called Morrison a poncey wanker, and gave him a little slap on his bald head.

Thor, handily.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Which is to say, Constantine appeared, called Morrison a poncey wanker, and gave him a little slap on his bald head.

Has Morrison ever written Constantine? That would be gold.

Ocean Master wins

Originally posted by Igniz
Ocean Master wins
Frost giant wins.

uhuh

Originally posted by abhilegend
Frost giant wins.

uhuh

Good thing Superman is no Frost Giant then

Originally posted by Igniz
Good thing Superman is no Frost Giant then
He has frost breath.

sneer

Originally posted by abhilegend
He has frost breath.

sneer

Originally posted by Igniz
Good thing Superman is no Frost Giant then

And Superman along with the JLA were knocked out by Ocean Master's lightning IIRC (Double check if you can as I can't find the aftermath online).

While a young Thor was knocked into a waterfall of an element existing in absolute zero from behind by a Frost Giant. Not even comparable.

Thor fts are better than this version of Superman...by far. Thor takes a huge majority.

Rage is thinking of another instance in indestructible hulk 8, frost giant oneshotting him occurred in issue 6.

http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/15562898_Indestructible_Hulk_006-017.jpg


Rage obviously blocked it from his memory. Also lulz @ young thor.

Thor was also unable to break free from "like molded titanium" cables as spidey put it if we're touting low showings. Also getting KOED by a magical lightning from a being who KOED the whole JLA. Thor has been knocked out by way less.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor fts are better than this version of Superman...by far. Thor takes a huge majority.

Superman still

Just so that everyone knows, at no point did any Frost Giant physically knock out Thor. In the first issue, a Frost Giant knocks Thor away but everyone knows that simply being knocked away or off-panel is not in anyway indicative of a knock out. Especially since the next issue reveals that Thor was completely fine and was calling for Mjolnir:
http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15769161_Indestructible_Hulk_007-004.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15769162_Indestructible_Hulk_007-005.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15769163_Indestructible_Hulk_007-006.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15769164_Indestructible_Hulk_007-007.jpg

Of course I don't mind, seeing as how that means a fat, middle-aged Atlantean knocked the f*ck out of Superman:
http://i.imgur.com/wN5sQ.jpg

Difference is, Superman can fly on his own and was right there instead of being hit miles away. Oh yeah, it would mean that Aquaman knocked him the f*ck out too.

Anyways, Thor shows Superman just how powerful lightning can get. He'll be wishing he was still fighting Ocean Master:
http://i.imgur.com/izUBYCR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CIr70qG.jpg

Thor NOW wins 7/10. DCnU Superman's magic weakness is more pronounced and frankly, beyond the heart he showed against Vyndktvx, he just hasn't yet measured up to the lofty standards of his former incarnation. How could he?

Yeah, right. Thor was knocked out and dropped mjolnir and that's when hulk tried to lift it. The fact that rage is arguing this shows just how biased he is and superman was just knocked away by a surprise shot, he wasn't shown lying on the ground like thor was. Of course there is this gem.

http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Newer/AvengersV5003-Zone-015_zps918eae6c.jpg
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Newer/AvengersV5003-Zone-016_zpse8e90144.jpg

Did you read the scan?

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Did you read the scan?
I read the comic. What about it?

Read what Wolverine said

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Read what Wolverine said
That thor's trap was the best? How does that means anything when he is so weak that he can't break "molded titanium"?

Originally posted by abhilegend
That thor's trap was the best? How does that means anything when he is so weak that he can't break "molded titanium"?

"Like" doesn't = "Is".

Spidey has no way of knowing what that stuff's made of.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Care to prove it ?

Originally posted by abhilegend
That thor's trap was the best? How does that means anything when he is so weak that he can't break "molded titanium"?
At worst Thor was bound just above molded titanium plus he was being mentally attacked...

Originally posted by cdtm
"Like" doesn't = "Is".

Spidey has no way of knowing what that stuff's made of.
Cap was breaking the cables just fine.Originally posted by pym-ftw
At worst Thor was bound just above molded titanium plus he was being mentally attacked...
He wasn't mentally attacked at that point. What do you mean by "at worst"?

Thor says it best.

Thor to DC: We're Winning
"You people are so petty... and tiny."


http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/20/thor-to-dc-were-winning

Originally posted by abhilegend
He has frost breath.

sneer

Not the same thing

Meanwhile, What Ocean Master did here

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/13/137442/2908021-2830344-justiceleague_16_thegroup_013.jpg

Reminds me of this

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/7/73849/2888462-thor_lightning_aoe_ii.jpg

Originally posted by Igniz
Not the same thing
Totally the same thing.
uhuh


Anyway Thor isn't going to beat whole JLA because someone else did it with lightning. Its called low showing in a team setting, Thor has countless such examples in Avengers.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Totally the same thing.
uhuh


Anyway Thor isn't going to beat whole JLA because someone else did it with lightning. Its called low showing in a team setting, Thor has countless such examples in Avengers.

Again its not the same thing I don't remember Frost Giants doing Ice breath.They usually fight with swords and spears.You might be talking about Ice Giants.Big difference after all

Originally posted by Igniz
Again its not the same thing I don't remember Frost Giants doing Ice breath.They usually fight with swords and spears.You might be talking about Ice Giants.Big difference after all
Fine. Superman uses frost breath to cover himself in ice and oneshots thor. Happy now?

ahah

Originally posted by Igniz
Not the same thing

Meanwhile, What Ocean Master did here

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/13/137442/2908021-2830344-justiceleague_16_thegroup_013.jpg

Reminds me of this

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/7/73849/2888462-thor_lightning_aoe_ii.jpg LMAO, Superman fell because of lightning and now hes facing a THUNDER GOD???

Originally posted by JBL
LMAO, Superman fell because of lightning and now hes facing a THUNDER GOD??? Yea, that showing proves Thor wins. This isn't close. Thor is the god of what easily owned Superman.

lol at the avengers comic, where an aleph fodder robot could almost solo the team while its kind were undone in big numbers in the infinity books. also Hulk koing Thor here via sucker punch reminds me of how Captain Marvel did the same to Supes

E veryone has lowfeats and high feats, Thor more then any other it seems. Thor wins if he is on his best and supes on his worst or on his average else he loses, how many time, dunno maybe 5-6/10.

Originally posted by Warlord
lol at the avengers comic, where an aleph fodder robot could almost solo the team while its kind were undone in big numbers in the infinity books. also Hulk koing Thor here via sucker punch reminds me of how Captain Marvel did the same to Supes
Like Ocean master did? Also Captain marvel used superman's magic weakness and punched him twice.

exactly like this.
now I guess you understand that sometimes when a character goes down is only because the story requires it to be so.
It's not my fault Supes has weaknesses.

Originally posted by Warlord
exactly like this.
now I guess you understand that sometimes when a character goes down is only because the story requires it to be so.
It's not my fault Supes has weaknesses.
Yes, I'm saying that fro the start.

Its not my fault that thor has a weakness too, punches.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Like Ocean master did? Also Captain marvel used superman's magic weakness and punched him twice.
Like Thor can replicate...

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Like Thor can replicate...
Thor isn't going to beat whole JLA in any kind of serious comic. Top tier magical lightning charged punches from shazam were shrugged off by Superman under the same writer.

http://abload.de/img/justiceleague22-2aisms.jpg

http://abload.de/img/justiceleague22-3avs8s.jpg

It was obviously an above top tier attack from Ocean Master. Superman can duplicate a frost giant's strength though.

It's really funny that you take a low feat from thor as a medium for this fight, while at the same time you insist that nothing mjolnir can dish out can match ocean master's output.
in short magic amped mjolnir strike = magic amped ca's fist strike.
then again Ocean Master is obviously above supes

My god.... The low balling in this thread (on both sides) is making my eyes bleed.

Ares..

Who would you give the majority too?

Originally posted by Warlord
It's really funny that you take a low feat from thor as a medium for this fight, while at the same time you insist that nothing mjolnir can dish out can match ocean master's output.
in short magic amped mjolnir strike = magic amped ca's fist strike.
then again Ocean Master is obviously above supes
I was just goofing around with that frost giant comparison. Although that didn't stop you from comparing a low showing from superman as something which Thor can replicate. I didn't say nothing mjolnir can dish out is superior to ocean master, I said its unlikely in most scenarios and only applicable if you only count thor's high showings.

Top tier magical lightning like Thor's isn't been so effective on superman even backed up by top tier strength like Shazam's strength.

So is a frost giant and "molded titanium" above Thor. What, thor can replicate ocean master's lightning but superman can't replicate a frost giant's strength?

Originally posted by carver9
Ares..

Who would you give the majority too?

I'd give it to Thor right now due to Superman's glaring magic weakness.

In Batman 20's back up, for instance, Superman was dying by merely being in the presence of a demon.

Good fight though.

Originally posted by ares834
I'd give it to Thor right now due to Superman's glaring magic weakness.

In Batman 20's back up, for instance, Superman was dying by merely being in the presence of a demon.

Good fight though.
That was because a magical being was absorbing his powers, not due to just magic though.

Originally posted by ares834
I'd give it to Thor right now due to Superman's glaring magic weakness.

In Batman 20's back up, for instance, Superman was dying by merely being in the presence of a demon.

Good fight though.

Did you see the scene where some magical teeth was ripping him to shreds?

Originally posted by ares834
My god.... The low balling in this thread (on both sides) is making my eyes bleed. Yup its the usual perpetrators too

I'd like to point out that when Thor was hit by the Frost Giant, he was knocked away from the scene and we never see him knocked out. Anyone who says otherwise should either post a scan or admit to being a liar. And it's revealed that in the next pages where Hulk lifts Mjolnir, it was Thor actually calling the hammer back to him.

So yes, calling that a knock out would be equivalent of saying Aquaman and the Atlantean one shotted Superman. At least Thor has the excuse of being hit from behind. I detest lowballing of this sort and it's honestly just a waste of time, but it is amusing when it backfires.

Also, didn't Aquaman withstand Ocean Master's lightning at some point in their fight? Pretty sure even Batman survived the lightning but a second bolt might have proved fatal however. Not exactly a great moment for Superman, especially when he's fighting someone who can summon much more powerful lightning.

For the record, we also saw Superman getting ravaged by those mystical teeth while Wonder Woman and Cyborg were fine. Magic is definitely a very pronounced weakness for Clark. Thor still wins imho, but if we assume his powers count as magic, this can easily be a one-sided fight depending on how extreme a showing you want to use as a reference.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I was just goofing around with that frost giant comparison. Although that didn't stop you from comparing a low showing from superman as something which Thor can replicate. I didn't say nothing mjolnir can dish out is superior to ocean master, I said its unlikely in most scenarios and only applicable if you only count thor's high showings.

Top tier magical lightning like Thor's isn't been so effective on superman even backed up by top tier strength like Shazam's strength.

So is a frost giant and "molded titanium" above Thor. What, thor can replicate ocean master's lightning but superman can't replicate a frost giant's strength?

i only used the low showing to show it can go either way.
we can agree to disagree then. I am just glad we both realize low showings ain't defining the outcome of this fight

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'd like to point out that when Thor was hit by the Frost Giant, he was knocked away from the scene and we never see him knocked out. Anyone who says otherwise should either post a scan or admit to being a liar. And it's revealed that in the next pages where Hulk lifts Mjolnir, it was Thor actually calling the hammer back to him.

So yes, calling that a knock out would be equivalent of saying Aquaman and the Atlantean one shotted Superman. At least Thor has the excuse of being hit from behind. I detest lowballing of this sort and it's honestly just a waste of time, but it is amusing when it backfires.

Also, didn't Aquaman withstand Ocean Master's lightning at some point in their fight? Pretty sure even Batman survived the lightning but a second bolt might have proved fatal however. Not exactly a great moment for Superman, especially when he's fighting someone who can summon much more powerful lightning.

For the record, we also saw Superman getting ravaged by those mystical teeth while Wonder Woman and Cyborg were fine. Magic is definitely a very pronounced weakness for Clark. Thor still wins imho, but if we assume his powers count as magic, this can easily be a one-sided fight depending on how extreme a showing you want to use as a reference.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, I'm saying that fro the start.

Its not my fault that thor has a weakness too, punches. Superman also has a weakness to punches as well. Thor is the god of lightning and excels against magical users.

Originally posted by Warlord
i only used the low showing to show it can go either way.
we can agree to disagree then. I am just glad we both realize low showings ain't defining the outcome of this fight
I used the low showing against the low showings brought up by thor camp. Nothing superman has done which is below "unable to break molded titanium."

We can agree upon that. Superman fought a 5-d imp FFS and there's nothing better magical than that.

Also @ rage, well raging out.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Fine. Superman uses frost breath to cover himself in ice and oneshots thor. Happy now?

ahah

Post scans of DCNU Superman using his frost breath to turn himself into a Frost Giant

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Like Thor can replicate...

Are we talking about Crisis Times Five? Cap sucker punches Superman once, dazing him, and finishes him off with a second punch?

Kind of a non feat, if you consider Martian Manhunter knocked out Cap in just one cheap shot.

Originally posted by Igniz
Post scans of DCNU Superman using his frost breath to turn himself into a Frost Giant
*random scan*

Happy?

Originally posted by abhilegend
*random scan*

Happy?



Come on abhi You said DCNU Superman would turn himself into a frost giant using his frost breath Make a believer out of me.Post scan or scans to show proof or just concede

Originally posted by Igniz
Come on abhi You said DCNU Superman would turn himself into a frost giant using his frost breath Make a believer out of me.Post scan or scans to show proof or just concede
Already posted it.

**random scan*

Play along igniz.

I would give the slight advantage to Thor. I would say so ... 6/10.
(Was it Pre N52 Superman, then he would win in my opinion due to some impressive speed showings)
But since this is the N52 Superman, it's more like this ...

Superman's advantages over Thor:

1. Superman is naturally simply faster than Thor and can use that to his advantage. He is "so much faster" that in theory he can pick his shots and aim for Thor's chin, which increases the chances of a knockout much more, but that is partially also depended on luck, so it's not a criteria.

2. Superman might be stronger judging by the ridiculous 5 days Earth bench press feat. Thor simply does not have such a strength feat and not even his Midgard Serpent feat comes close to that, so in theory Superman might be able to overpower Thor physically by holding his arms and maybe even breaking them.

But with that being said, it doesn't man that his overall damage output is higher. In fact it's not... It has been stated multiple times in the new Superman comics that Superman's non-holding-back damage output is enough to topple mountains, which is something Thor should be capable of taking.
But then again - thanks to Superman's speed advantage he can travel a certain distance in a short amount of time to gather momentum and strike Thor with even more impact.

Superman's disadvantages over Thor:

1. Superman's durability / invulnerability to magic have not been established yet. He has some interesting durability feats like taking shots, which sent him across the globe and stuff like that, so he certainly can take a punch.
We've also seen him tanking 50 GW electric shocks, AFTER being weakened by a bunch of 5D imps in forms of angels (or did I just dream that?), so his durability against substained damage is also quite high - especially when it comes to electricity, but ...

Thor uses magical lightning and we've seen Superman struggeling with magic BIG TIME! He has been taken out by Oceanmaster and he has also been BADLY cut by some magical thingies, when he was together with Wonder Woman somewhere in a different dimension, I don't even know, but they also had a magical background, so Thor's attacks might be able to do a lot of damage to Superman.

2. Superman's morals ... DC tried to come up with a more corny and badass Superman, but in the end of the day he still has his morals and it's always questionable how he would fight in character. I don't see him ending the fight in a quick manner. Thor is simply too durable and experienced for that and if Thor tags Superman even once, I see him doing a lot more damage to Superman than vice versa, due to his ridiculous damage output as we've seen it in his fight against Gorr - and also the added magical damage from Mjolnir, which also grants Thor a great amount of versatility and if both characters are fighting to the best of their abilities Thor has a big advantage thanks to Mjolnir.
Not only could Thor take the Heat Vision, without any problems IMO, since he has been in the Sun before and supposedly absorbed a blast 1000 hotter than the Sun.

Final conclusion:

Sentry beats them both at the same time.

^it's getting old.

Originally posted by Enzeru

2. Superman might be stronger judging by the ridiculous 5 days Earth bench press feat. Thor simply does not have such a strength feat and not even his Midgard Serpent feat comes close to that, so in theory Superman might be able to overpower Thor physically by holding his arms and maybe even breaking them. His WST (WorldsShattererThor) feat is big on strength... Unless u think him swinging his arms is all magic..?
Originally posted by Enzeru

Final conclusion:

Sentry beats them both at the same time.

Ure conclusion is pure win considering the essay u just wrote beforehand.
I do hate that character though.

Originally posted by curryman
^it's getting old.
You should've seen him a few years ago when he first appeared. Now I just laugh when I see his posts. This is just classic though.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=559432&pagenumber=1

Originally posted by abhilegend
You should've seen him a few years ago when he first appeared. Now I just laugh when I see his posts. This is just classic though.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=559432&pagenumber=1

I'm afraid you're not someone, who should laugh at the post of the others, judging by the reputation you have here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You should've seen him a few years ago when he first appeared. Now I just laugh when I see his posts. This is just classic though.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=559432&pagenumber=1

Only heston can do this one justice.

http://i.imgur.com/91kVtTx.gif?1

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
His WST (WorldsShattererThor) feat is big on strength... Unless u think him swinging his arms is all magic..?

No, I just think that strength does not necessarily equal striking.

For Superman:

If I'm capable of benchpressing 200 lbs of steel, that doesn't mean, that I can also punch through 200 lbs of steel.

I simply don't think that Superman has the damage output to put someone like Thor down fast. Maybe he did lift the Earth for 5 days straight, but his damage output via strikes has been stated to be around mountain level, MULTIPLE times. That is Superman at his best (for now).
And I know that Thor at his best can take mountain level punches. The question is if he can handle it in the long run, when a few of these punches come in a short period of time due to Superman's speed advantage.

For Thor:

For the God of Thunder it's the opposite actually ... just because he had the strength to hit his opponents so hard to shatter planets in the process, doesn't mean that he could bench press these planets for few days.
If a writer feels like it, he could do it of course (even though I hope it never happens, because it's stupid), but as for now, he does not have that strength.

You can have a well trained, skinny monk punch through a wood plank or hell maybe even multiple layers of bricks like it's nothing, while an untrained, yet physically superior bodybuilder fails to do so, simply because he lacks the technique and maybe even the mind set to pull that off.

Thor has that experience and he has that mind set, where he simply attacks and therefore can dish out more physical damage, but that is not his only trait... he also has his magic, which would hurt Superman badly and that's why I give him the slight advantage.

But you can NEVER underestimate speed :-7 In a well written fight Thor would be in a world of trouble against Superman.

Originally posted by Enzeru
I'm afraid you're not someone, who should laugh at the post of the others, judging by the reputation you have here.
At least I wasn't banned from CBR because I loved sentry too much. Its a tremendous feat I tell you.

Originally posted by abhilegend
At least I wasn't banned from CBR because I loved sentry too much. Its a tremendous feat I tell you.

The reason why I got a short time-ban on CBR was because "I questioned the mod rules" set up for the Sentry, simply because they were not true, since the mods didn't take a lot of context regarding the Sentry into consideration.

The Sentry is a complicated character and not everyone is able to grasp him to the fullest. Even I needed years of reading and paying attention at everything to finally get it.

"Weird mod rules" for the Sentry on Killermovies are also the reason why I'm not THAT active here, since in the end of the day it simply doesn't make sense, but people with mod rights are putting their opinion over the opinion of other people, even though the chance is there that they lack proper knowledge.

What I'm talking about? I'm talking about separating the Void Sentry from Siege from other versions of the Sentry and saying that the character was usually not portrayed that way.
That rule is plain simply stupid and doesn't make any sense what so ever, because of the following reasons:

1. Void overwhelmed the Avengers and other heroes in the past without even trying,
2. Void broke an opponent much more durable than Ares (in Savage Hulk),
3. Sentry has much better feats than the Void and that even before the events of Siege.

So separating the Void Sentry from other versions of the Sentry and the Void is ridiculous, but this is now me once again questioning mods and their decisions, which in the mind of some people is ban-worthy. Oh well.

Cool story bro, sentry is such a complex character that only you in the whole world has been able to understand him. Sentry is nothing but several of superman's story arcs and character traits from 80's mashed together by a terrible writer aka Paul Jenkins. He is nothing but a power fantasy from a writer who has zero talent how to write, "See here is this super-duper powerful character who stan lee forgot about. He taught Angel how to fly, gave spidey, reed, tony and every other hero morals, had sex with rogue, was best buds with hulk, every hero was beneath him, he would beat Thor in two seconds and so on. Oh he also had a dark side of his mind which he manifested via hard light construct to own every character and only Sentry can beat him, blah, blah, blah". He is a character with zero depth ala Loeb's Red Hulk.

Now you're using high showings from a character and whining about how people don't use them as average showings. That's all you do, whine, whine and whine some more. Now stop cluttering the thread with your sentry love. Please.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Now you're using high showings from a character and whining about how people don't use them as average showings. That's all you do, whine, whine and whine some more. Now stop cluttering the thread with your sentry love. Please.

You see, this is the problem with "debating on battle forums.

People like you usually tend to think of everything great their favorite character (in your case Superman) has ever done, while using average and even low showings to "prove" that other characters are less powerful than him / her.

You go even one step further by calling me out on my take on the Sentry and the fact that I like to point out all of the high showings he had, while totally ignoring the fact that you're doing the same for Superman and on top of that you're force feeding everyone with low showings of his opponents in certain debates.
Additionally to that you barely ever really back up your claims. You simply throw out names of characters you either want or expect (lack of knowledge on certain characters) to win. To support that you insult people and talk bad about them.

I already told you: You're not one of the people, who should point with the finger at others and laugh at them. There is an old german phrase: "Touch your own nose", which is in english more like a: "Look who's talking".

I never debate with superman's highest feats, he would never lose a fight then. Superman has done everything you can imagine, fought and won against every kind of enemy you can imagine and shit like that. I don't go on saying that superman beats anyone and everyone, heck most of the time I don't even give winners in a thread.

Also, I only pointed out your absurd sentry love. Nothing more, nothing less. If you're offended, its only because you should be. Your exclamation that sentry is such a complex character that only you've understood it after years of research is the most laughable thing I've ever heard. It even beats quan's "I'm Thanos" gimmick. Congrats.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also, I only pointed out your absurd sentry love. Nothing more, nothing less. If you're offended, its only because you should be. Your exclamation that sentry is such a complex character that only you've understood it after years of research is the most laughable thing I've ever heard. It even beats quan's "I'm Thanos" gimmick. Congrats.

How does that "absurd sentry love" show?

The fact that I created respect and clarification threads for the characters? If so, then I have far more people thanking me for these threads and I could care less about a person like you bitching about it, so there is nothing to even argue about.

Or do mean that when I say that Sentry beats someone, you don't see him winning against, which then looks like you're putting your opinion above mine and even going over corpses and starting insulting and making pitiful attempts to bash me to make yourself come out on top? Once again, there is nothing to argue about, because the only really absurd thing is your behaviour.

When I say that the Sentry is a complex character, then that has to do with his mental aspects most of the time.

Here is an example: The Sentry, who fought and stalemated World War Hulk was vastly, vastly weakened and that he still had the upper hand in that fight and managed to revert Hulk back to Bruce Banner, but then you have all the people, who start saying that I'm a Sentry lover and trying to make the character look better than he was in the fight and they proceed to tell me that the Sentry was at his highest power level during that fight, while in the end of the day he wasn't.

Here is a different example: Void did not defeat the Molecule Man. Sentry defeated the Molecule Man, yet you have a lot of people saying that Sentry can't do jacksh*t and that it was the Void, who defeated Molecule Man, even though that's not the case.

Here is yet another example: People say that Sentry ripped Ares in half, but he never did. It was the Void, who did that.

Three examples ... On how many of these examples do you agree with the opinion of everyone elses over mine, who knows the character better than you know him and better than most of the people, who want to argue about the character? Not all of the people, but most I've come across.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I never debate with superman's highest feats

You're either taking the piss, or your criteria for "highest feats" is incredibly different to everyone else's.

Thor gets murked badly IMO

Originally posted by Enzeru
How does that "absurd sentry love" show?

The fact that I created respect and clarification threads for the characters? If so, then I have far more people thanking me for these threads and I could care less about a person like you bitching about it, so there is nothing to even argue about.

Or do mean that when I say that Sentry beats someone, you don't see him winning against, which then looks like you're putting your opinion above mine and even going over corpses and starting insulting and making pitiful attempts to bash me to make yourself come out on top? Once again, there is nothing to argue about, because the only really absurd thing is your behaviour.

When I say that the Sentry is a complex character, then that has to do with his mental aspects most of the time.

Here is an example: The Sentry, who fought and stalemated World War Hulk was vastly, vastly weakened and that he still had the upper hand in that fight and managed to revert Hulk back to Bruce Banner, but then you have all the people, who start saying that I'm a Sentry lover and trying to make the character look better than he was in the fight and they proceed to tell me that the Sentry was at his highest power level during that fight, while in the end of the day he wasn't.

Here is a different example: Void did not defeat the Molecule Man. Sentry defeated the Molecule Man, yet you have a lot of people saying that Sentry can't do jacksh*t and that it was the Void, who defeated Molecule Man, even though that's not the case.

Here is yet another example: People say that Sentry ripped Ares in half, but he never did. It was the Void, who did that.

Three examples ... On how many of these examples do you agree with the opinion of everyone elses over mine, who knows the character better than you know him and better than most of the people, who want to argue about the character? Not all of the people, but most I've come across.

Get this sentry shit out of here for the last time. I have no problems with sentry or void doing this or that. I just don't like the way you take your interpretations and pretend that its really you who wrote the character and the writer who wrote the character knows nothing about the character. You claim Pak used a weakened sentry when its opposite of what he portrayed, you claimed Bendis weakened sentry when he is the one who wrote sentry for a decade and gave him most of his feats. Nobody wants to hear your theories about how sentry was weakened at any time except his high showings or Paul Jenkins' masturbation of a comic.
Originally posted by -Pr-
You're either taking the piss, or your criteria for "highest feats" is incredibly different to everyone else's.


Quiet you.

uhuh

Originally posted by Enzeru
You see, this is the problem with "debating on battle forums.

People like you usually tend to think of everything great their favorite character (in your case Superman) has ever done, while using average and even low showings to "prove" that other characters are less powerful than him / her.

You go even one step further by calling me out on my take on the Sentry and the fact that I like to point out all of the high showings he had, while totally ignoring the fact that you're doing the same for Superman and on top of that you're force feeding everyone with low showings of his opponents in certain debates.
Additionally to that you barely ever really back up your claims. You simply throw out names of characters you either want or expect (lack of knowledge on certain characters) to win. To support that you insult people and talk bad about them.

I already told you: You're not one of the people, who should point with the finger at others and laugh at them. There is an old german phrase: "Touch your own nose", which is in english more like a: "Look who's talking". Cosigned.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Get this sentry shit out of here for the last time. I have no problems with sentry or void doing this or that. I just don't like the way you take your interpretations and pretend that its really you who wrote the character and the writer who wrote the character knows nothing about the character. You claim Pak used a weakened sentry when its opposite of what he portrayed, you claimed Bendis weakened sentry when he is the one who wrote sentry for a decade and gave him most of his feats. Nobody wants to hear your theories about how sentry was weakened at any time except his high showings or Paul Jenkins' masturbation of a comic.

See? That's exactly what I'm talking about.
With that wall of nonsense you've proven every single one of my points.

No wonder that some people here disrespect you and that is the funny thing ... being a nobody and not being taken seriously on the internet is the usual procedure for all of us, but being a nobody and being disrespected on the internet? That's the lowest low you can achieve.

Enjoy your status. I'm done with you.

PS: Just to back up my claims that the Sentry was weakened during his fight against the World War Hulk and to negate everything you wrote above...

http://www.comicvine.com/sentry/4005-1454/forums/sentry-faq-just-how-powerful-is-the-sentry-1479836/#1

Originally posted by Enzeru
See? That's exactly what I'm talking about.
With that wall of nonsense you've proven every single one of my points.

No wonder that some people here disrespect you and that is the funny thing ... being a nobody and not being taken seriously on the internet is the usual procedure for all of us, but being a nobody and being disrespected on the internet? That's the lowest low you can achieve.

Enjoy your status. I'm done with you.

PS: Just to back up my claims that the Sentry was weakened during his fight against the World War Hulk and to negate everything you wrote above...

http://www.comicvine.com/sentry/4005-1454/forums/sentry-faq-just-how-powerful-is-the-sentry-1479836/#1
I write paragraphs, you write wall of texts. Anyway I really don't care about what a bunch of no name people on internet think about me.

Holy Conspiracy theory batman!!

Now that you've got that out of your chest, would you please shut up? This thread isn't about sentry.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I write paragraphs, you write wall of texts. Anyway I really don't care about what a bunch of no name people on internet think about me.

Holy Conspiracy theory batman!!

Now that you've got that out of your chest, would you please shut up? This thread isn't about sentry. Thor wins.