Harley Quinn vs Black Widow

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ozz81
1. H2H, CQC
2. Both use standard equipment.

Who wins?

LeonBuco666
Harley is strong enough to roundhouse banks steel vault doors clean of their hinges, she would decimate BW in h2h
standard equipment? probably BW

tkitna
Yeah, Harleys superhuman (how did that happen by the way). She destroys BW.

LeonBuco666
Ivy injected her with an anti toxin, which also made her immune to most poisons.

StiltmanFTW
1) BW is also superhuman.

2) Her skill advantage is enough to beat Harley even if she wasn't.

LeonBuco666
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
1) BW is also superhuman.

2) Her skill advantage is enough to beat Harley even if she wasn't. BW is a street level martial artist, harley is at least low meta, BW even comes close to Harley, she'll get her neck snapped.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by LeonBuco666
BW is a street level martial artist, harley is at least low meta, BW even comes close to Harley, she'll get her neck snapped.

No, she's not. Widow received Red Room's variant of the Super Soldier Serum.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No, she's not. Widow received Red Room's variant of the Super Soldier Serum.

It doesn't make her THAT strong, though, right? As in, she's not Cap-level.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It doesn't make her THAT strong, though, right? As in, she's not Cap-level.

Correct, but strength is not everything and certainly it's not needed here... Quin's just a loony looser.

LeonBuco666
You think BW could handle Batwoman, Robin and Nightwing by herself? Because i sure as hell dont, thats displaying her physical superiority and that shes very skilled in H2H

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StiltmanFTW
Every link sans the last one is broken. Congrats.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Every link sans the last one is broken. Congrats.

And from what I saw, its Harley running away....

StiltmanFTW
Yeah.

LeonBuco666
Im sorry it works for me, but im on my phone, sorry
Also she handled all three and then fled, she can launch the joker straight up into the air for at least 2 stories high, can dodge bullets close up with ease clears entire rooms with henchman very quickly, bats failed to beat her, couldnt even touch her

deathslash
Originally posted by LeonBuco666
Im sorry it works for me, but im on my phone, sorry
Also she handled all three and then fled, she can launch the joker straight up into the air for at least 2 stories high, can dodge bullets close up with ease clears entire rooms with henchman very quickly, bats failed to beat her, couldnt even touch her Yeah...... a good deal of the feats that you just mentioned were from her own series (which was mainly fan service). Also, when did bats fail to beat her (I'm asking because I either saw that showing and can't remember or because I've just never seen it)?

LeonBuco666
Ill try and get it now

Warlord
natasha is way more skilled last time I checked... then again I haven't read anything on Harley for some time now

LeonBuco666
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111116905/3175852-harleyquinn012-15.jpg -- overpowers him showing shes stronger than bruce and then smashes his through the floor(nothing to do with next scans btw)

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78486/3224772-6832008520-32247.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78486/3224771-7473567597-32247.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78486/3224770-2440240720-32247.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78486/3224773-3904783164-32247.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78486/3224774-2249576144-32247.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78486/3224775-7891723176-32247.jpg ---- Bruce couldnt touch her showing shes faster and has great reflex and reactions.


Yes, comicvine, forgive me.

Bentley
Man, Batman is so weak thumb down

TheGodKiller
Widow. Mismatch against the clown.

LeonBuco666
No, Id say Harley is very strong after all she gave Croc the smack down, not outright but she won in a straight up physical confrontation....albeit she got pummeled to sleep, then woke up randomly shattering bowling pins over his skull, and then somehow pierced his skin with bowling pins.(he has bulletproof skin) it was the same fight before she went unconsious and after, just different issues like a 'to be continued' thing

deathslash
Originally posted by LeonBuco666
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111116905/3175852-harleyquinn012-15.jpg -- overpowers him showing shes stronger than bruce and then smashes his through the floor(nothing to do with next scans btw)

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78486/3224772-6832008520-32247.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78486/3224771-7473567597-32247.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78486/3224770-2440240720-32247.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78486/3224773-3904783164-32247.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78486/3224774-2249576144-32247.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78486/3224775-7891723176-32247.jpg ---- Bruce couldnt touch her showing shes faster and has great reflex and reactions.


Yes, comicvine, forgive me. umm........... OK, I really don't know where to start. That first scan that you posted was from Harley Quinn's solo book right? Once again, that book was almost 90% fan service(seriously, when harley quinn is soloing the likes of Cassandra Cain, Nightwing, and Tim Drake the writer clearly doesn't know anything about the characters). The second scans that you posted are impressive. Who wrote that book? I just have one question. If she's so good that Batman can't even beat her, why does she always crap her pants when Bruce gets angry?

Bentley
Look, we can dance around it all night but the conclusion is simple.

Srank was right, Marvel martial artists put joke characters like Batman into shame. Let's never ever give them respect again.

TheGodKiller
Originally posted by deathslash
Once again, that book was almost 90% fan service
Did Harley engage in naked lesbian sex with Poison Ivy? Even if it was implied subliminally?

TheGodKiller
Originally posted by Bentley
Look, we can dance around it all night but the conclusion is simple.

Srank was right, Marvel martial artists put joke characters like Batman into shame. Let's never ever give them respect again.
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I agree with this.

LeonBuco666
Feats are feats deathslash

Also, Bruce has backed down to harley before so dont ask that type of "why does she do this" question
Im sticking with Harley.

deathslash
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Did Harley engage in naked lesbian sex with Poison Ivy? Even if it was implied subliminally? Nope, that's why I said that the book was 90% fan service(the writer missed out on the opportunity to get that part down). Although, Harley and Ivy did have a sleep over with multiple other hot supervillainesses. Maybe something happened at that sleep over.

LeonBuco666
Its all left to the readers imagination regarding Ivy & Harley, i think they had some freaky shit going down, including plants.



And the giant mallet.

deathslash
Originally posted by LeonBuco666
Feats are feats deathslash

Also, Bruce has backed down to harley before so dont ask that type of "why does she do this" question
Im sticking with Harley. Even when the feats are complete and total crap? I wasn't trying to ask a rhetorical question. I was seriously wondering why if Harley is so far above Batman she totally craps her pants when he gets angry. I was completely curious as to what you thoughts the answer was.

LeonBuco666
And i answered, i dont see what your confused over, harley told bruce she would beat him bruce said i know thats why i wont fight......
Im sticking with Harley, she is a pretty decent H2h and is physically superior to natasha.

deathslash
Originally posted by LeonBuco666
And i answered, i dont see what your confused over, harley told bruce she would beat him bruce said i know thats why i wont fight......
Im sticking with Harley, she is a pretty decent H2h and is physically superior to natasha. OK, seems reasonable. I myself have to side with Natasha. She is a super soldier, and although harley is her physical superior, I feel like the skill gap is enough to give Natasha the win.

LeonBuco666
Originally posted by deathslash
OK, seems reasonable. I myself have to side with Natasha. She is a super soldier, and although harley is her physical superior, I feel like the skill gap is enough to give Natasha the win.

Lets agree to disagree

leonidas
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
1) BW is also superhuman.

2) Her skill advantage is enough to beat Harley even if she wasn't.

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bw has some exceptionally good showings, to go along with some lesser ones. even some of her avengers showings were really good. she's almost smart as sh!t and would likely put a psychological beat down on harley while she danced around her. add in her sting and bw def takes this almost every time imo.

LeonBuco666
A phsycological beat down? I doubt it.

Golgo13
Widow.

pym-ftw
Natasha shoots Harley.

ODG
Originally posted by LeonBuco666
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111116905/3175852-harleyquinn012-15.jpg -- overpowers him showing shes stronger than bruce and then smashes his through the floor(nothing to do with next scans btw)

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78486/3224772-6832008520-32247.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78486/3224771-7473567597-32247.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78486/3224770-2440240720-32247.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78486/3224773-3904783164-32247.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78486/3224774-2249576144-32247.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78486/3224775-7891723176-32247.jpg ---- Bruce couldnt touch her showing shes faster and has great reflex and reactions.


Yes, comicvine, forgive me. This performance against Batman looks instantly more impressive than any fight of Black Widow's. You're talking about someone who can keep up with Elektra, possibly beat Punisher in a close battle and get embarrassed by Daredevil.

Not someone who runs rings around Batman.

LeonBuco666
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Natasha shoots Harley. depends how fast that bullets moving because Harley can dodge up close gun fire.

Glorificus
Black Widow.

SamZED
Originally posted by ODG
This performance against Batman looks instantly more impressive than any fight of Black Widow's. You're talking about someone who can keep up with Elektra, possibly beat Punisher in a close battle and get embarrassed by Daredevil.

Not someone who runs rings around Batman. Running rings around Batman doesnt count for much on KMC.

abhilegend
Originally posted by SamZED
Running rings around Batman doesnt count for much on KMC.
Cap outran Daredevil, he is teh fastest one dere izz!!!

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