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H'EL

VS

WorldBreaker Hulk

H'El or Hulk?

WBH.

Hmm tough one probably H'El

WBH

WBH if H'el decides to slug it out.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
WBH if H'el decides to slug it out. yup

BFR is on so H'el could get rid of him, but other than that he's going to take a beating.

WBH demolishes him.

I said it before and I will say it again WBH is overpowered. WWH would be a better matchup here.

H'el. WBH won't even be able to tag him if H'el doesn't wants him to. Too many powers and physical attributes that can tank WBH's for some time.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
H'el. WBH won't even be able to tag him if H'el doesn't wants him to. Too many powers and physical attributes that can tank WBH's for some time.

H'el might not even be able to hurt him. the only thing capable of phasing him was Betty who kept pace with his strength increases. Wb hulk wouldn't have to physically touch him due to all of the energy that was leaking out of him. H'el loses here.

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Originally posted by Stoic
H'el might not even be able to hurt him. the only thing capable of phasing him was Betty who kept pace with his strength increases. Wb hulk wouldn't have to physically touch him due to all of the energy that was leaking out of him. H'el loses here.

H'el tanked planetary punches and the energy can be contained or avoided. Hulk and betty even more amped didn't do anything special once out of the Dark Dimension, on earth they were less imptressive, though more amped, then before.

WBH is still just a Herald tapping into the Trans tier, while H'el is more solid in that tier.

WBH isn't even needed. Hulk wins.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
H'el tanked planetary punches and the energy can be contained or avoided. Hulk and betty even more amped didn't do anything special once out of the Dark Dimension, on earth they were less imptressive, though more amped, then before.

WBH is still just a Herald tapping into the Trans tier, while H'el is more solid in that tier.

LOL

ok on paper H'el is a beast but can anyone mention any significant feats?

Originally posted by Warlord
ok on paper H'el is a beast but can anyone mention any significant feats?

Taking out Superman.

Tanking a punch from Supergirl.

Moving a big block of ice at super speed.

Defeating Superboy.

Showing some teleportation and versatility.

Defeating Superman again.

Now lets name some Savage Hulk fts...

New52 Superman is already established as being stronger then Savage Hulk and even WWH, he is arguably at WBH levels strength wise if he doesn't hold back. His speed is by far superior. H'el was still above Supes.

The portrayal of H'el alone puts him over WBH.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
New52 Superman is already established as being stronger then Savage Hulk and even WWH, he is arguably at WBH levels strength wise if he doesn't hold back. His speed is by far superior. H'el was still above Supes.

The portrayal of H'el alone puts him over WBH.



Cant tell if serious or not.

H`el throws Hulk into outer space and calls it a day. 10/10

Originally posted by carver9


Cant tell if serious or not.

WBH and Betty destroyed the Dark Dimension, i give you that, though vastly amped. But even more amped they both stomped as giants the poor little Dragon and did almost no damage to earth. The problem with your power scaling is the fact that Superman and H'el fough on earth, the punches from supes were felt in space but Earth, Marvel and DC, isn't allowed to be destroyed. So sure the collateral Damage on earth will never be as great as that on no name planets or dimensions.

Supermans lifting feats are well above Hulks best. His strength is like He-Mans and Hulks dynamic. They are as strong as they need to be. In essence. Supes at his best, WBH at his best and He-Man at his best are equals strength wise.

Originally posted by Mshinu
H`el throws Hulk into outer space and calls it a day. 10/10

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
New52 Superman is already established as being stronger then Savage Hulk and even WWH, he is arguably at WBH levels strength wise if he doesn't hold back. His speed is by far superior. H'el was still above Supes.

The portrayal of H'el alone puts him over WBH. Superman can stop holding back all he wants and still would not be in WBH strength class. Not even close. Please show me this myth known as a " non-holding back superman being soooooo much stronger. He has fought plenty people on panel and was not holding back and was nothing special. Even gotten his ass beaten. Do you think he was holding back during his on panel ass whoopings?

Originally posted by JBL
Superman can stop holding back all he wants and still would not be in WBH strength class. Not even close. Please show me this myth known as a " non-holding back superman being soooooo much stronger. He has fought plenty people on panel and was not holding back and was nothing special. Even gotten his ass beaten. Do you think he was holding back during his on panel ass whoopings?

Pre-N52

OWAW Superman, far beyond Supes. FC Superman, best strength feat ever.

N52, Bench pressing Earth 5 days without sunlight, and even this wasn't near his max.

= better then anything WBH ever lifted.

Hey, hey superman never gains a strength boost when going all out. This is all in speculation as this never happened where Ignition casually curbstomps superman and when he threatens Lois, superman oneshots his ass

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16672403_actioncomics769p14.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16672405_actioncomics769p15.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16672406_actioncomics769p16.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16672408_actioncomics769p17.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16672424_actioncomics769p18.jpg

Or when he oneshots bizarro when he was vastly weakened by emperor joker

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16672445_AdventuresOfSuperman582p18.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16672448_AdventuresOfSuperman582p19.jpg

Its just in our minds./sarcasm

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
WBH and Betty destroyed the Dark Dimension, i give you that, though vastly amped. But even more amped they both stomped as giants the poor little Dragon and did almost no damage to earth. The problem with your power scaling is the fact that Superman and H'el fough on earth, the punches from supes were felt in space but Earth, Marvel and DC, isn't allowed to be destroyed. So sure the collateral Damage on earth will never be as great as that on no name planets or dimensions.

Supermans lifting feats are well above Hulks best. His strength is like He-Mans and Hulks dynamic. They are as strong as they need to be. In essence. Supes at his best, WBH at his best and He-Man at his best are equals strength wise.
Only Betty was amped. WBH was just Hulk fully unleashed, no outside amp. And since when does Editorial Mandate matter I'm a versus match? NuSuperman hasn't shown the ability to destroy a planet nor does he have the durability feats to survive what Hulk did. And lifting feats don't necessarily translate into punching power.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hey, hey superman never gains a strength boost when going all out. This is all in speculation as this never happened where Ignition casually curbstomps superman and when he threatens Lois, superman oneshots his ass

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16672403_actioncomics769p14.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16672405_actioncomics769p15.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16672406_actioncomics769p16.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16672408_actioncomics769p17.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16672424_actioncomics769p18.jpg

Or when he oneshots bizarro when he was vastly weakened by emperor joker

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16672445_AdventuresOfSuperman582p18.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16672448_AdventuresOfSuperman582p19.jpg

Its just in our minds./sarcasm
What does this have to do with Nu52 Superman? I thought we used current versions unless otherwise specified.

Originally posted by 80sBaby
Only Betty was amped. WBH was just Hulk fully unleashed, no outside amp. And since when does Editorial Mandate matter I'm a versus match? NuSuperman hasn't shown the ability to destroy a planet nor does he have the durability feats to survive what Hulk did. And lifting feats don't necessarily translate into punching power.

What does this have to do with Nu52 Superman? I thought we used current versions unless otherwise specified.
JBL didn't specify which version of superman he wanted to hate.

Originally posted by carver9
Taking out Superman.

Tanking a punch from Supergirl.

Moving a big block of ice at super speed.

Defeating Superboy.

Showing some teleportation and versatility.

Defeating Superman again.

Now lets name some Savage Hulk fts... You should be more precise. Saying he beat Superboy doesn't sound like much. Had you explained the manner in which he did it...its something else.

Originally posted by abhilegend
JBL didn't specify which version of superman he wanted to hate.
He doesn't need to specify. He responded to Batman Prime's post re: H'el vs Superman fight. That obviously implies NuSuperman since H'el never fought Pre-FP Supes.

WBH wins.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
WBH and Betty destroyed the Dark Dimension, i give you that, though vastly amped. But even more amped they both stomped as giants the poor little Dragon and did almost no damage to earth. The problem with your power scaling is the fact that Superman and H'el fough on earth, the punches from supes were felt in space but Earth, Marvel and DC, isn't allowed to be destroyed. So sure the collateral Damage on earth will never be as great as that on no name planets or dimensions.

Supermans lifting feats are well above Hulks best. His strength is like He-Mans and Hulks dynamic. They are as strong as they need to be. In essence. Supes at his best, WBH at his best and He-Man at his best are equals strength wise.

To bad the punches Superman was hitting H'el with were described as mountain level.

Lol...the people that has taken Superman down in DCNU would get one punched by WBH. You basing anything off of one showing of strength doesn't help your argument. WBH is stronger than all of them, Indestructible Hulk and WWH is stronger as well. Hell, recently a calm Savage Hulk was punching someone in the stomach and the shockwaves was destroying Earth. That's SAVAGE Hulk.

We can lost fts of DCNU and Indestructible Hulk if you want.

Originally posted by Warlord
ok on paper H'el is a beast but can anyone mention any significant feats?
He's a pretty versatile high herald. Like Sentry/Silver Surfer versatile(although his best feats don't compare to theirs).

However WBH edges him out in terms of brute strength and raw power here. I'd give him the win over most other Hulk incarnations, but against a hell-destroyer like the Worldbreaker, H'El meets his demise.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
You should be more precise. Saying he beat Superboy doesn't sound like much. Had you explained the manner in which he did it...its something else.

I agree.

He one-shotted Ignition with 3 punches, freeze breath and heat vision?

Originally posted by 80sBaby
Only Betty was amped. WBH was just Hulk fully unleashed, no outside amp. And since when does Editorial Mandate matter I'm a versus match? NuSuperman hasn't shown the ability to destroy a planet nor does he have the durability feats to survive what Hulk did. And lifting feats don't necessarily translate into punching power.

What does this have to do with Nu52 Superman? I thought we used current versions unless otherwise specified.

WBH was immortal too, due to his wish everyone was ressurected, so he could fight and fight and fight. That's more or less an amp. And he didn't destroy earth, in giant form, with betty, vastly more amped then WBH levels. Why? because it's earth.

He can bench press an planet for 5 straight days, seems to me he could destroy it too if it wasn't earth. So His lifting feats are greater, so he is stronger then WBH since he has the better feats. In weightlifting. WBH has a better punching feat, so he punches harder? Well Supes punches were felt on the watchtower, while he punched H'el on earth, that's as good as WBH stomping FinFangFong without destroying earth, again together with betty vastly amped in giant form. So they are comparable punch wise. Give him some time and he will get his Planet destroying punch, not a shared one like WBH, though it might take some time as Supes isn't the destructive kind of guy.

Originally posted by carver9
To bad the punches Superman was hitting H'el with were described as mountain level.

Lol...the people that has taken Superman down in DCNU would get one punched by WBH. You basing anything off of one showing of strength doesn't help your argument. WBH is stronger than all of them, Indestructible Hulk and WWH is stronger as well. Hell, recently a calm Savage Hulk was punching someone in the stomach and the shockwaves was destroying Earth. That's SAVAGE Hulk.

We can lost fts of DCNU and Indestructible Hulk if you want.

And were felt in space? Makes them as good as Hulks best on earth.

No they don''t, just because you say it doesn't make it true. WBH isn't stronger. Some guys from the DC N52 who are stronger then WBH, Superman, Shazam, Black Adam, Wonder Woman, MM, Aquaman. See just because one says something doesn't make it true, your opinion that WBH is stronger then all from DC is in the same BS league.

Ok show me a greater lifting feat from Hulk then the 5 days without sun (means weakening) benchpressing earth without breaking a sweat, .... ok 1 drop.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
WBH was immortal too, due to his wish everyone was ressurected, so he could fight and fight and fight. That's more or less an amp. And he didn't destroy earth, in giant form, with betty, vastly more amped then WBH levels. Why? because it's earth.

He can bench press an planet for 5 straight days, seems to me he could destroy it too if it wasn't earth. So His lifting feats are greater, so he is stronger then WBH since he has the better feats. In weightlifting. WBH has a better punching feat, so he punches harder? Well Supes punches were felt on the watchtower, while he punched H'el on earth, that's as good as WBH stomping FinFangFong without destroying earth, again together with betty vastly amped in giant form. So they are comparable punch wise. Give him some time and he will get his Planet destroying punch, not a shared one like WBH, though it might take some time as Supes isn't the destructive kind of guy.



And were felt in space? Makes them as good as Hulks best on earth.

No they don''t, just because you say it doesn't make it true. WBH isn't stronger. Some guys from the DC N52 who are stronger then WBH, Superman, Shazam, Black Adam, Wonder Woman, MM, Aquaman. See just because one says something doesn't make it true, your opinion that WBH is stronger then all from DC is in the same BS league.

Ok show me a greater lifting feat from Hulk then the 5 days without sun (means weakening) benchpressing earth without breaking a sweat, .... ok 1 drop.

The punches were still claimed as mountain busting. Nice ft but it isn't what you are trying to make it bro.

I'm not arguing with you on who is stronger than WBH since you underate the character greatly.

Why would I have to show planetary strength when Hulk have those in spades? Did you forget about a weakened Savage Hulk holding planet Sakaar together. Then thats just one showing. Guess what, Hulk has an unlimited source of planetary showing. Not just one writer opinion.

How about you show me Superman punches causing planetary damage.

^ Worldbreaker Hulk ran a rape train on Superman's feats. This is old news. Some people will never get over it.

Originally posted by carver9
The punches were still claimed as mountain busting. Nice ft but it isn't what you are trying to make it bro.

I'm not arguing with you on who is stronger than WBH since you underate the character greatly.

Why would I have to show planetary strength when Hulk have those in spades? Did you forget about a weakened Savage Hulk holding planet Sakaar together. Then thats just one showing. Guess what, Hulk has an unlimited source of planetary showing. Not just one writer opinion.

How about you show me Superman punches causing planetary damage.

It's as good as anything WBH did on earth .

No I don't, I think he is up there with the best, like Supes and He-Man.

So you can't show me a greater lifting feat from Hulk? Ok we agree, for now Superman is stronger, thanks for playing .

Wow, Abhi isn't a one-off... Are these guys actually just joke iPhone apps? Like a cross between a SpamBot and a Fart App?


WBH wins this.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hey, hey superman never gains a strength boost when going all out. This is all in speculation as this never happened where Ignition casually curbstomps superman and when he threatens Lois, superman oneshots his ass

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16672403_actioncomics769p14.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16672405_actioncomics769p15.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16672406_actioncomics769p16.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16672408_actioncomics769p17.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16672424_actioncomics769p18.jpg

Or when he oneshots bizarro when he was vastly weakened by emperor joker

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16672445_AdventuresOfSuperman582p18.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16672448_AdventuresOfSuperman582p19.jpg

Its just in our minds./sarcasm You got that right. Its all in your mind. Superman holds back to keep from hurting NORMAL people when hes fighting. He holds back when he fights people far weaker than him...BUT, when he fights a foe thats at or above his level , HE DOES NOT HOLD BACK. Superman is NOTHING like the hulk. He CANNOT start fighting at class 100 and then stop holding back and leap to class 150 so to speak. His strength is set in stone UNTIL he sundipp or is under blue sunlight or gets some other form of amp. HE HAS THE SAME STRENGTH WHEN HES SLEEPING AND THE SAME WHEN HES GOING ALL OUT. Its the same as when i play fight with my 5 year old nephew, if my strength level is a 5 and i toy with him, then use my full strength, MY STRENGTH LEVEL is still a 5, i did not get any stronger. Superman does not get any stronger by not holding back, NEVER HAS. I THINK ITS TIME TO PUT THIS ONGOING LIE to rest with a battlezone.

I can show scans of heros getting their butts beat, then all of a sudden make a dramatic ( plot planned ) comeback and beat the bad guy ALL DAY LONG. I guess they also got soooooo much stronger huh?? Learn the difference between getting stronger and heros time to win.

Theres not a writer in the world that would say that superman, CM and Black Adam are peers until superman stops holding back.GOODNESS.

Hulk hate in this thread is strong.

Originally posted by ODG
^ Worldbreaker Hulk ran a rape train on Superman's feats. This is old news. Some people will never get over it.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/126281/3124962-not+sure+if+serious+zod.gif

^ Let me know when a holding back Superman threatens continental coastlines by walking, tanks 300 trillion ton punches, and vaporizes his long-standing foes with the backlash of an impact that destroys an entire planet.

That impact, btw, he basically no-sold.

Originally posted by ODG
^ Let me know when a holding back Superman threatens continental coastlines by walking, tanks 300 trillion ton punches, and vaporizes his long-standing foes with the backlash of an impact that destroys an entire planet.

That impact, btw, he basically no-sold.

Clark does all of the above in his sleep and twice on Sunday!

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Clark does all of the above in his sleep and twice on Sunday! So you're saying Clark does this only in his dreams? Ok.

Originally posted by ODG
So you're saying Clark does this only in his dreams? Ok. LMAO, Thats the only place he can do it in. Never in his career has he done anything close in a comic.lol

Wait! i just lied, theres one more place he can do it in. His fans mind.lol

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Clark does all of the above in his sleep and twice on Sunday!

DCnU Clark benched pressed the weight of earth for 3 days (without sunlight) and said, "That's it". And H'el dismissed him in their first encounters.

Originally posted by ODG
So you're saying Clark does this only in his dreams? Ok.

In his dreams he doesn't share the feat with someone else.

Fixit punched out an asteroid TWICE the size of Earth, and he wouldn't even win an arm-wrestling contest against one of Green Scar's pinkies.


Green Scar, whilst weakened and made vulnerable, held together a planet far larger than the Earth.

Originally posted by ODG
^ Worldbreaker Hulk ran a rape train on Superman's feats. This is old news. Some people will never get over it.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
It's as good as anything WBH did on earth .

No I don't, I think he is up there with the best, like Supes and He-Man.

So you can't show me a greater lifting feat from Hulk? Ok we agree, for now Superman is stronger, thanks for playing .

Savage Hulk did a lot better on earth.

Lol at your second comment.

I provided one better. A weakened Savage Hulk shifting an entire planet. The crazy thing about this is, even after this, he has other planetary fts, not just one.

Originally posted by ODG
So you're saying Clark does this only in his dreams? Ok.

Not gonna lie I LoLed ODG you have such a way with words.

Originally posted by dial J for Josh
Not gonna lie I LoLed ODG you have such a way with words.

You found that funny, eh?

House Of El, SWARM!

Originally posted by ODG
^ Let me know when a holding back Superman threatens continental coastlines by walking, tanks 300 trillion ton punches, and vaporizes his long-standing foes with the backlash of an impact that destroys an entire planet.

That impact, btw, he basically no-sold.
Let me know when Hulk threatens coastlines by just walking and not emitting any kind of gamma rays that actually do the main damage, tanks the real 300 trillion punches and not another hyperbole ones, and destroys the planet in one go without gamma rays going through planet little by little cracking it and then just add some force to push the pieces.

H'el is on a whole other level beyond kryptonian who was lifting the weight of the planet without extra source of his power for 5 days and could easily prolong it. Ultraman moved the Moon under the Sun rays. Not much is known but he is clearly around Superman tier, imagine someone whos beyond it.

H'el showed to be tougher, stronger, faster than Superman, can casualy teleport himself and others, casually creates a special field that neither Superman non WW could break free, showed some good telepathy, can bend space and time, never went all out in any fight.

So H'el is so strong that he can threaten a continent just by taking a normal footstep? You'll have to provide some hard core evidence since H'el walked throughout his entire run.

Originally posted by ClayWorm
Let me know when Hulk threatens coastlines by just walking and not emitting any kind of gamma rays that actually do the main damage, tanks the real 300 trillion punches and not another hyperbole ones, and destroys the planet in one go without gamma rays going through planet little by little cracking it and then just add some force to push the pieces.

H'el is on a whole other level beyond kryptonian who was lifting the weight of the planet without extra source of his power for 5 days and could easily prolong it. Ultraman moved the Moon under the Sun rays. Not much is known but he is clearly around Superman tier, imagine someone whos beyond it.

H'el showed to be tougher, stronger, faster than Superman, can casualy teleport himself and others, casually creates a special field that neither Superman non WW could break free, showed some good telepathy, can bend space and time, never went all out in any fight.



Hulk fans are just desperate and angry that N52 Superman got a better strength/lifiting feat early in his career that suprasses every lifting feat Hulk ever did in all his comic history.

H'el controlls his powers Carter, so he doesn't needs to destroy anything while walking . Control, you might learn it once ^^.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime


Hulk fans are just desperate and angry that N52 Superman got a better strength/lifiting feat early in his career that suprasses every lifting feat Hulk ever did in all his comic history.

H'el controlls his powers Carter, so he doesn't needs to destroy anything while walking . Control, you might learn it once ^^. LOL, even Hyperions feats shits on supermans feat. WBH is so far above superman that its not even funny. By the way, superman could not break a dragon-like beast grip in that same comic, He was not strong enough. Makes you wonder huh???

Originally posted by JBL
LOL, even Hyperions feats shits on supermans feat. WBH is so far above superman that its not even funny. By the way, superman could not break a dragon-like beast grip in that same comic, He was not strong enough. Makes you wonder huh???

Well Supes lifted infinity, pre N52, still it doesn't gets better then this. And WBH can't even compete with the 5 days earth lifting feat, makes you wonder .

The beast was from Krypton and Superman didn't had the time to recharge his cells after the 5 days workout, you should read the comic before posting, makes you wonder indeed .

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Well Supes lifted infinity, pre N52, still it doesn't gets better then this. And WBH can't even compete with the 5 days earth lifting feat, makes you wonder .

The beast was from Krypton and Superman didn't had the time to recharge his cells after the 5 days workout, you should read the comic before posting, makes you wonder indeed . Lifted infinity huh?? That has already been debunked but nice try.

He never lifted the earth, it was a machine and a lady giving the weight, nice try again.

I also see that you have a long history of wanking superman, thus its a waste of my time even responding to you.

Originally posted by JBL
Lifted infinity huh?? That has already been debunked but nice try.

He never lifted the earth, it was a machine and a lady giving the weight, nice try again.

I also see that you have a long history of wanking superman, thus its a waste of my time even responding to you.

Nothing was debunked, he lifted half of infinity which is still infinity .

He lifted the earthweigt 5 days straight, without sunlight, you are angry that Hulk doesn't has a single lifting feat that comes close ^^.

You see that you didn't read the comic before posting and now run with your tail between your legs, thanks for playing, have a nice day .

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Well Supes lifted infinity, pre N52, still it doesn't gets better then this. And WBH can't even compete with the 5 days earth lifting feat, makes you wonder .

The beast was from Krypton and Superman didn't had the time to recharge his cells after the 5 days workout, you should read the comic before posting, makes you wonder indeed .

Hyperion held back two universes and Hulk matched him....hell, Hickman said Hulk is still stronger than Hyperion, even after his universe pushing ft.

The fts you are naming, Hulk while weakened performed these as well. Hell, the weakest version of Hulk busted an asteroid TWICE the size of Earth. Grey Hulk>Superman. LOL

Originally posted by ClayWorm
Let me know when Hulk threatens coastlines by just walking and not emitting any kind of gamma rays that actually do the main damage, tanks the real 300 trillion punches and not another hyperbole ones, and destroys the planet in one go without gamma rays going through planet little by little cracking it and then just add some force to push the pieces. Because the gamma rays were at all even mentioned in any of the three times he's threatened continental devastation. Those gamma rays which people like Amadeus Cho or armorless Tony Stark or Dr. Rappacini can apparently stand in just fine. Originally posted by ClayWorm
H'el is on a whole other level beyond kryptonian who was lifting the weight of the planet without extra source of his power for 5 days and could easily prolong it. Ultraman moved the Moon under the Sun rays. Not much is known but he is clearly around Superman tier, imagine someone whos beyond it. H'el's on a level that can withstand mountain-busting punches. A power level that explicitly exceeded the previous benching power levels per Dr. Veritas herself. Nobody disputed H'el was below a Superman who, when going all-out, apparently can bust mountains. Originally posted by ClayWorm
H'el showed to be tougher, stronger, faster than Superman, can casualy teleport himself and others, casually creates a special field that neither Superman non WW could break free, showed some good telepathy, can bend space and time, never went all out in any fight. Silver Surfer isn't in this thread. Stop going off-topic.

Mind the buttblood seeping around your feet, btw.

Originally posted by ODG
Silver Surfer isn't in this thread.
lol, that's _exactly_ what I was thinking when I read that bit of his posting.

Originally posted by ODG


Mind the buttblood seeping around your feet, btw.

Originally posted by carver9
So H'el is so strong that he can threaten a continent just by taking a normal footstep? You'll have to provide some hard core evidence since H'el walked throughout his entire run.

So are you saying that anyone not threatening the eastern seaboard by taking steps is not as strong as the hulk?

Originally posted by Diesldude
So are you saying that anyone not threatening the eastern seaboard by taking steps is not as strong as the hulk?

Can H'el destroy a planet by walking through the park? Simple question.

Originally posted by carver9
Can H'el destroy a planet by walking through the park? Simple question.
How are you going to reply to a question with another question. Nice dodge.

H'El still wins

Well there's no physical way for H'el to defeat this Hulk. He was brushing off punches that could kill fairly powerful opponents without even touching them. H'el would have to hit substantially harder, and he can't. He also isn't durable enough to take many huts from a non holding back WBH. If H'el tries to spank Hulk like he spanked Superman, he's going to be killed.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Nothing was debunked, he lifted half of infinity which is still infinity .

He lifted the earthweigt 5 days straight, without sunlight, you are angry that Hulk doesn't has a single lifting feat that comes close ^^.

You see that you didn't read the comic before posting and now run with your tail between your legs, thanks for playing, have a nice day . How can there be half when you say half is still a whole? Ultraman lifted it by himself, so ultraman is the strongest right? No logic at all dude.

Do you want me to name the characters that have greater feats than that earth weight feat you cherish? I will, hyperion, WBH, Gladiator and in your case, even Ultraman, now ask me for their feats please.

I have 2 copies of that comic and read one of them just fine and here i am trying to help abhil and there are far worse supes fans out there.

Originally posted by iceman24567
H'El still wins In your dream he does, but not here.

Originally posted by iceman24567
H'El still wins

But how? lol >_<

This kid does the Superman/Ultraman book lifting feat without any strain at all:

B3DcWtkKeIY

Originally posted by Diesldude
How are you going to reply to a question with another question. Nice dodge.

You are trying to take away from a ft...my question was simple. Can H'el walk down the street and threaten a planet at the same time.

Originally posted by Damborgson
If H'el tries to spank Hulk like he spanked Superman, he's going to be killed.

Worldbreaker kills H'El?

You can't be serious.

Why not?

Originally posted by Damborgson
Why not?

H'El has much more offense at his disposal and the range attacks favor him.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
H'El has much more offense at his disposal and the range attacks favor him.

Yeah but Hulk's not limited to range anymore at this point. A clap would be devastating.

Can't H'el become intangible? And he can use psionic attacks, too.

Idk, Hulk can punch him in the face though.

Whats the most powerful ranged attack h'el has?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
This kid does the Superman/Ultraman book lifting feat without any strain at all:

B3DcWtkKeIY

^Scum

Someone's upset.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Can't H'el become intangible? And he can use psionic attacks, too.

Superman 23.2...H'el did become invisible but he has to become tangible to attack though. H'el is a physical character which would get him destroyed here. Also, what versatility attack has H'el done that proves he can damage Hulk? Are you referring to the attacks he used on Superboy? Whats Superboy best durability ft?

H'EL wins this pretty handily.

WBH handily

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Nothing was debunked, he lifted half of infinity which is still infinity .

He lifted the earthweigt 5 days straight, without sunlight, you are angry that Hulk doesn't has a single lifting feat that comes close ^^.

You see that you didn't read the comic before posting and now run with your tail between your legs, thanks for playing, have a nice day . Ultraman outdid Superman. Superman needed aid in lifting half of what Ultraman did himself.

None of this relates to H'el. Nudc. So it is inapplicable anyway.


Hulk, easily.

WBH annihilates

lol at this thread, H'el wins blindfolded with both hands tied behind his back

Originally posted by Naija boy
WBH annihilates

H'el.

Hel wins this very easily. BFR is on, and he casually teleported Supergirl to the Sun and back again.

WBH, unless Hel Bfr him before any attacks are landed.