Sinestro vs. Wonder Woman

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Kazenji
Who wins?

Odekahn
Sinestro after a good fight, but if he doesn't think quick she will overpower him.

abhilegend
An inexperienced sinestro clone was overpowering her untill Hercules saved her. Real sinestro would stomp her ass.

Warlord
the guy with the hilarious mustache

Odekahn
Originally posted by Warlord
the guy with the hilarious mustache

Zebb Coulter?

Warlord
Originally posted by Odekahn
Zebb Coulter?

with a power ring? sure smile

abhilegend
Also Diana's record against lanterns is terrible. Kyle has oneshotted her, John has oneshotted her and then beat her again, a clone sinestro was overpowering her untill hercules saved her, she admitted that she couldn't beat a random GL untill he was distracted etc. I mean just look.

http://secondtosupes.tripod.com/sinestro.jpg

Kazenji
The link is broken.

abhilegend
Oops

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16706963_sinestro.jpg

Sasaraixx
Originally posted by abhilegend
Oops

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16706963_sinestro.jpg

A scan of her trying to reason with him and him using that opportunity to basically sucker-punch her?

You'll have to do better than that.

iscaremonkeys
Originally posted by abhilegend
Also Diana's record against lanterns is terrible. Kyle has oneshotted her, John has oneshotted her and then beat her again, a clone sinestro was overpowering her untill hercules saved her, she admitted that she couldn't beat a random GL untill he was distracted etc. I mean just look.

http://secondtosupes.tripod.com/sinestro.jpg She oneshotted.....against JHON STEWART? LOL!!

abhilegend
Originally posted by Sasaraixx
A scan of her trying to reason with him and him using that opportunity to basically sucker-punch her?

You'll have to do better than that.
Him just wrapping up her in a construct while she is fully aware of him fighting is a suckershot? How convenient!!Originally posted by iscaremonkeys
She oneshotted.....against JHON STEWART? LOL!!

http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t1/16707248_GreenLanternRebirth02a.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/DC/th_Green_Lantern_-_Rebirth_02_2005_Team-DCP_pg16_zpsb716cdd8.jpg

Then he beats her again off panel

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/DC/th_005-GreenLanternRebirth003Rembrandt-DCP_zps06452b2c.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/DC/th_Green_Lantern_-_Rebirth_04_2005_Team-DCP_pg07_zps879d9ab7.jpg

iscaremonkeys
she got one shotted by jhon. LOLOLOOLLOLOLOLOLOL. But no really......AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH OHHHHHHHH that's HILARIOUS

carver9
She didn't get one shotted.

iscaremonkeys
Originally posted by carver9
She didn't get one shotted. STILL. SHE LOST TO JOHN! LOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOL

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
She didn't get one shotted.
Of course she was. Superman shrugged of the same blast.

Q99
Uh, this scan seems to indicate that Superman was taken out too... and he's shown down while Diana is still fighting.


And iirc she was able to break the constructs of the Sinestro clone. I'm not sure it's 'she was being overpowered' so much as 'the fight was ongoing, then Hercules helped finish things faster'. Also if I remember right... the clones were supposed to be stronger than the originals. Like the Doomsday one, it's strength was constantly increasing and it kept growing more and more bone.




In Gail's run she let a random GL just pound on her and she just tanked it all. Healed it up in the next few pages too.

Sure, she used distraction on him a bit earlier, doesn't mean she's reliant on it.

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Wasn't the time with Kyle when she was taking a fall as part of a plan? There was an occasion in Kyle's run where she wanted the villains to believe her dead and Kyle evil so she let him 'kill' her.

Mshinu
Sinestro for a majority.

Q99
I will admit that her melee-oriented powerset isn't the best against lantern types. Constructs help avoid a lasso throw, and her martial arts skill and reflexes don't come into play too much since the lantern would mostly be avoiding close combat. Though in return she can block energy blasts very well.

She can still overpower many of 'em, but it's a rough matchup against the stronger ones.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Q99
Uh, this scan seems to indicate that Superman was taken out too... and he's shown down while Diana is still fighting. He was hit in a weak spot i.e his eyes since John couldn't hurt him otherwise. Wally was the first to recover after the blast, diana woke up some time later and she was beaten again.


Hercules suckerpunched the clone after he nearly choked her out and the clones of flash and sinestro were specified to be less formidable than the originals. Even doomsday clone was only getting stronger when the power to him was increased at the end.




She also admitted that she couldn't beat him straight up. Sinestro isn't a random lantern.

She admitted that she can't beat him straight up.

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It happened later in Virtue and Vice.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/DC/th_JLAJSAVV-18.jpg

Somewhat of a suckershot admittedly.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Q99
I will admit that her melee-oriented powerset isn't the best against lantern types. Constructs help avoid a lasso throw, and her martial arts skill and reflexes don't come into play too much since the lantern would mostly be avoiding close combat. Though in return she can block energy blasts very well.

She can still overpower many of 'em, but it's a rough matchup against the stronger ones.
Name one lantern she's overpowered.

abhilegend
This is how that fight with clone sinestro ended. Wonder Woman wasn't able to free herself untill his ring was destroyed. I don't think she can even compete with real sinestro who is a beast since Rebirth and hasn't actually lost a single fight straight up.

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16711622_WonderWoman110-15.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16711631_WonderWoman110-16.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16711664_WonderWoman110-17.jpg

TheGodKiller
Wonder Woman wins.

abhilegend
Why?

TheGodKiller
Because I say so.

DarkSaint85
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/20/article-2296269-18CD2A52000005DC-571_634x473.jpg

abhilegend
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Because I say so.
laughing out loud

JayDaDon
Sinestro

Q99
The one on Khund in her series, Procanon Kaa, most obviously.

I just went through the entire encounter. She muses a bit about how Lanterns must be beaten with the mind, but she never says she can't beat him strait up, and her actual performance shows clear superiority.

He puts himself in a big construct and she beats him out of and knocks him down, overpowering him. Then she lets him get up and beat on her for a bit and she just tanks it all.


Diana without a doubt was stronger than that lantern (and he is described as a veteran).



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Also to go for Nu52 versions, there was the incident with Hal / Hal(though admittedly, Hal's been something of a chump post-reboot).

Rage.Of.Olympus
http://i.imgur.com/7eamltO.jpg

Lmao, ouch. Wonder Woman hitting Hal were it hurts in that first panel.

Q99
She did break some constructs earlier in the fight though, pretty easily:
Here
and
here

And she was trying diplomacy at that point, as well as protecting civilains, and the clones were not supposed to be any less powerful than the originals (though less skillful, granted).


If anything, it shows she does pretty well even when not taking the clone seriously (possibly because she recognized he didn't have the skill of the original, but she is fairly casually handling the constructs before the last).

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It has surprised me how few encounters she's had with lanterns, looking for examples, but the Clone Sinestro one and the Kaa one both show her as more than able to hold her own. The clone giving her trouble but her busting through some constructs, and Kaa simply outpowered.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Q99
The one on Khund in her series, Procanon Kaa, most obviously.

I just went through the entire encounter. She muses a bit about how Lanterns must be beaten with the mind, but she never says she can't beat him strait up, and her actual performance shows clear superiority.

He puts himself in a big construct and she beats him out of and knocks him down, overpowering him. Then she lets him get up and beat on her for a bit and she just tanks it all.


Diana without a doubt was stronger than that lantern (and he is described as a veteran).



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Also to go for Nu52 versions, there was the incident with Hal / Hal(though admittedly, Hal's been something of a chump post-reboot).
She weakened his will first by angering him, she flat out admitted that she can't beat him otherwise.

http://s6.postimg.org/nn1aqzsrx/wonderwoman194ld4.jpg

http://s6.postimg.org/w7umi62y5/WWV301913.jpg

Also hal was battling her evenly and sinestro was a far better green lantern than he was let alone with the yellow ring.Originally posted by Q99
She did break some constructs earlier in the fight though, pretty easily:
Here
and
here

And she was trying diplomacy at that point, as well as protecting civilains, and the clones were not supposed to be any less powerful than the originals (though less skillful, granted).


If anything, it shows she does pretty well even when not taking the clone seriously (possibly because she recognized he didn't have the skill of the original, but she is fairly casually handling the constructs before the last).

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It has surprised me how few encounters she's had with lanterns, looking for examples, but the Clone Sinestro one and the Kaa one both show her as more than able to hold her own. The clone giving her trouble but her busting through some constructs, and Kaa simply outpowered.
Breaking some random constructs isn't enough here. Also the clones were less powerful than the original.

Also how would protecting civilians or trying to talk to him means anything when he simply overpowered her with a construct.

LOL @ the clone simply giving her some troubles, he was going to kill her and Wonder Woman flat out said that Kaa couldn't be harmed untill his will faltered, a tactic that Thaal would laugh at.

dial J for Josh
Originally posted by Odekahn
Zebb Coulter?

.....We the people!

Odekahn
Originally posted by dial J for Josh
.....We the people!

/covers heart

Q99
Originally posted by abhilegend
She weakened his will first by angering him, she flat out admitted that she can't beat him otherwise.

Huh, funny, that's not what she says.





The Doomsday clone was stronger, and it was made by the same device.

Less skilled, yes, but less powerful? It may be the opposite.




The construct like she'd just overpowered two of?

She would've been able to break out. Not yet breaking out of one construct isn't enough here, not when she's just broken multiple.


And if she'd been aiming for the kill, considering she was pretty easily busting through his defenses before, what was stopping her from finishing the job before he even made that one? Not much. Not much at all.




Except she never says she can't win, just that the ring prevents him from being harmed. Which is a bit of an exaggeration, but she doesn't seem the least intimidated or put off by it, and then, y'know, she wins. Nor does she have a problem with his constructs before she makes him angry. And she additionally, after knocking him down, lets him stand up and just pound on her and even an angry GL's repeat attacks were simply tanked.



Seriously, the scans are right there, why are you trying to twist it into something it's not?

Your 'character X can't do what they actually do,' stance is silly.




And let's not forget, she's got a magic lasso that allow her to win against people who can't be harmed anyway, if it was the case, which we know it's not.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Q99
Huh, funny, that's not what she says. "A foe that cannot be harmed", that's exactly what she says.


Haha, it was specified to be as strong as superman from the beginning.


http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16719435_WonderWoman111-09.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16719436_WonderWoman111-10.jpg

Simple constructs.

And when she was unable to break one while he was killing her.


And his lack of skill had him clumsy. What if he contained her from the start? We can play "what if" all day long.




By faltering his will, not overpowering him as you said. She used the lasso to weaken his constructs. A cannon fodder GL at best. If she had so much trouble with a random GL, I don't think she can win here.



I posted the scan and you're twisting them, not me.

Hahaha, what? You're saying wonder woman could've broken through that last construct but choose not to? What kind of twisted logic is that?




The lasso is pretty much useless against lanterns since they can't be wrapped with their force-fields around them.

aztec
Diana takes the slight majority. Some of the posters, and by some I mean mostly one likes to downplay Diana and doesn't know how to read context, even though, he's an avid Wonder Woman reader.

!. Diana has already made Guy Gardner her *****!! (OMAC)

2. When Stewart went all out, the team didn't know how to react. They didn't fight back. (GL: Rebirth)

3. Kyle and Diana staged the fight. I can't remember the issue, but Kyle taught she was dead.

4. Diana did better against Amazo than Superman and Hal Jordan.

ODG
Probably a stalemate 5/10.

If it's Sinestrollax, he should stomp.

abhilegend
Originally posted by aztec
Diana takes the slight majority. Some of the posters, and by some I mean mostly one likes to downplay Diana and doesn't know how to read context, even though, he's an avid Wonder Woman reader.

!. Diana has already made Guy Gardner her *****!! (OMAC)

2. When Stewart went all out, the team didn't know how to react. They didn't fight back. (GL: Rebirth)

3. Kyle and Diana staged the fight. I can't remember the issue, but Kyle taught she was dead.

4. Diana did better against Amazo than Superman and Hal Jordan.
Never happened to guy.

She still lost twice.

I posted the scans of diana getting oneshotted from JLA/JSA: Virtue and Vice, the fight you are mentioning is from GL V3 73.

Hal blew a hole in amazo, diana didn't do any better than that. She just lasted longer.

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