Maelstrom Vs Lady Styx Amped on Heartstones

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Golgo13
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http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/STYX_zps2033a8ea.jpg

TheGodKiller
Styx wins.

operator616
So.....we're using that version of Maelstrom (because there's one more powerful)? In that story he got defeated by Drax (though to be fair he ambushed him from behind). Still doesn't matter though, since didn't do anything that comes close to Lady Styx, nor could he.

Lady Styx, at her peak, had the power over all creation (since the heartstones are the heart of creation as i recall), and was transforming the universe into her body.

Golgo13
Originally posted by operator616
So.....we're using that version of Maelstrom (because there's one more powerful)? In that story he got defeated by Drax (though to be fair he ambushed him from behind). Still doesn't matter though, since didn't do anything that comes close to Lady Styx, nor could he.

Lady Styx, at her peak, had the power over all creation (since the heartstones are the heart of creation as i recall), and was transforming the universe into her body.

I'm using Maelstrom at his peak.

operator616
that would be Maelstrom when he usurped anomaly, then (though that was retconned into being an m-body in later issues).
Thing is that, at his peak (he also acquired several other things like quantum bands and cosmic awareness) Maelstrom apparently was > Thanos who was in possession of IG, which is weird considering that Thanos should have been above all abstracts.

So if we do really consider that Maelstrom > IG thanos (which is very questionable, though it is actually shown on panel and confirmed by secondary evidence), then he wins, if not, then Lady Styx wins.

Galan007
Originally posted by operator616
that would be Maelstrom when he usurped anomaly, then (though that was retconned into being an m-body in later issues).
Thing is that, at his peak (he also acquired several other things like quantum bands and cosmic awareness) Maelstrom apparently was > Thanos who was in possession of IG, which is weird considering that Thanos should have been above all abstracts.

So if we do really consider that Maelstrom > IG thanos (which is very questionable, though it is actually shown on panel and confirmed by secondary evidence), then he wins, if not, then Lady Styx wins. Tbh, I don't believe Maelstrom wielded more raw power than the IG. For example, I don't believe he could've one-shotted the universe and built a new one in its place from scratch, as the IG can/has. I am of the opinion, however, that Maelstrom was beyond the IG's influence/scope, which is why Mael was able to tank Thanos' blast. Said immunity does fall in-line with Anomaly's conceptual purpose...

Quasar: "My quantum beam just bent around it!"
Anomaly: "I am like nothing else. I obey NO physical laws. I am the exception to ALL rules":
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3947/anomaly2.th.jpg


Anywho, if we take the word of Lady Styx and Vril Dox(among others) at face value, then Lady Styx became God after merging with the stones:
http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/16822745_1.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/16822746_2.jpg

And the power of God *should* be able to affect Mael, but it's still a tough call. For all of her implied power, Styx was still fallible.

Golgo13
Originally posted by Galan007
Tbh, I don't believe Maelstrom wielded more raw power than the IG. For example, I don't believe he could've one-shotted the universe and built a new one in its place from scratch, as the IG can/has. I am of the opinion, however, that Maelstrom was beyond the IG's influence/scope, which is why Mael was able to tank Thanos' blast. Said immunity does fall in-line with Anomaly's conceptual purpose...

Quasar: "My quantum beam just bent around it!"
Anomaly: "I am like nothing else. I obey NO physical laws. I am the exception to ALL rules":
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3947/anomaly2.th.jpg


Anywho, if we take the word of Lady Styx and Vril Dox(among others) at face value, then Lady Styx became God after merging with the stones:
http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/16822745_1.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/16822746_2.jpg

And the power of God *should* be able to affect Mael, but it's still a tough call. For all of her implied power, Styx was still fallible.

How was she defeated again?

Galan007
Originally posted by Golgo13
How was she defeated again? With The Power of Love!

Golgo13
Well played, Galan! Well played. Don't think you won the war, though. sneer

operator616
Originally posted by Galan007
Tbh, I don't believe Maelstrom wielded more raw power than the IG. For example, I don't believe he could've one-shotted the universe and built a new one in its place from scratch, as the IG can/has. I am of the opinion, however, that Maelstrom was beyond the IG's influence/scope, which is why Mael was able to tank Thanos' blast. Said immunity does fall in-line with Anomaly's conceptual purpose...

Quasar: "My quantum beam just bent around it!"
Anomaly: "I am like nothing else. I obey NO physical laws. I am the exception to ALL rules":



Anywho, if we take the word of Lady Styx and Vril Dox(among others) at face value, then Lady Styx became God after merging with the stones:


And the power of God *should* be able to affect Mael, but it's still a tough call. For all of her implied power, Styx was still fallible.

He certainly wasn't capable of one-shotting the universe, that much i agree.
You have a point regarding Maelstrom's role as anomaly. But anomaly is a minor abstract compared to the major ones who are << Thanos.


I think that the "God" statement is a hyperbole. Still she claimed that she will have power over all creation:

http://i.imgur.com/vFCXeK9.jpg

....which makes sense considering the heartstones are the heart of....literally everything:

http://i.imgur.com/5Qu5bk3.jpg

She was later seen transforming the universe into her body, Maelstrom for all the reality-warping + QB + CA that he acquired was still only gradually destroying the universe.

Galan007
Originally posted by operator616
He certainly wasn't capable of one-shotting the universe, that much i agree.
You have a point regarding Maelstrom's role as anomaly. But anomaly is a minor abstract compared to the major ones who are << Thanos. Yes, but Anomaly was the only power Mael had incorporated that would have made him immune to Thanos' influence. /shrug

Originally posted by operator616
I think that the "God" statement is a hyperbole. Still she claimed that she will have power over all creation:

http://i.imgur.com/vFCXeK9.jpg

....which makes sense considering the heartstones are the heart of....literally everything:

http://i.imgur.com/5Qu5bk3.jpg

She was later seen transforming the universe into her body, Maelstrom for all the reality-warping + QB + CA that he acquired was still only gradually destroying the universe. thumb up

operator616
Originally posted by Galan007
Yes, but Anomaly was the only power Mael had incorporated that would have made him immune to Thanos' influence. /shrug



Ok, but even then it doesn't make much sense.

The four major abstracts have trans-infinite power level, as mentioned in Quasar #25:

http://i.imgur.com/Xzxg11J.jpg

^ the "trans-infinite forces" were revealed to be the 4 cornerstone abstracts toward the end of the issue.

Now, Thanos possessed power > trans-infinite power level of the abstracts (im applying marvel logic here).

so (imo) even though if Maelstrom was an anomaly (not comparable to the actual abstracts) and could defy laws of physic, Thanos with the IG should have been able to simply...... transcend that.

That's of course, my opinion.

Galan007
Originally posted by operator616
Thanos with the IG should have been able to simply...... transcend that.

That's of course, my opinion. Logically speaking, I agree. However, Quasar #24 depicted Mael laughing off a blast from an enraged Thanos /w/ IG, which shows us that he was beyond the IG's influence-- Mael's 2006 OHOTMU bio confirms this.

...And the ONLY power Mael had usurped that might've made him immune to the IG on paper, was that of Anomaly.

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