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Who wins

DOTNG Orion as in Soulfire Orion?

Superman wins.

Originally posted by abhilegend
DOTNG Orion as in Soulfire Orion? the one that killed DS

Countdown Orion? Superman accidently kills him.

Orion.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Orion.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Orion. Originally posted by comicfan11

You can't be serious here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You can't be serious here.

Why?

DOTNG wins..

Originally posted by comicfan11
Why?
Orion did nothing even close to even get a single win here.

Superman.

Superman imo

As per the OP(Orion that killed DS), I think that's not enuff to beat OWAW Supes.
Love me some Orion, but Supes should win

We don't really know what was going on with Orion in that scene, but he ripped the heart out of the most powerful Darkseid we've ever seen. A Darkseid who was amped some unbelievably exponentially amount and fighting evenly with a multiversal entity.

Don't see how Superman has any chance

Originally posted by Cogito
We don't really know what was going on with Orion in that scene, but he ripped the heart out of the most powerful Darkseid we've ever seen. A Darkseid who was amped some unbelievably exponentially amount and fighting evenly with a multiversal entity.

Don't see how Superman has any chance
Its countdown Orion who killed Darkseid. DOTNG Orion didn't kill him. Superman was smacking Darkseid around just fine in countdown and Orion was evenly matched with him in strength.

During Superman/Batman, Superman was able to beat the ever-loving shit out of Darkseid(far, far easier than Orion did mind you), just by moving within close proximity to the sun:
http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16836114_Superman-Batman_013-007.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16836115_Superman-Batman_013-008.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16836117_Superman-Batman_013-009.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16836118_Superman-Batman_013-010.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16836119_Superman-Batman_013-011.jpg
...Just to add insult to injury, he damn near tore Darkseid's arm off.

Tbh, even though Supes just had a slight sun-amp in the above scene, I'd probably still give him the win over a team-up of both Darkseid AND Orion combined. Giving Supes a formal/OWAW sun-dip realistically makes this spite in his favor, imo. My opinion: sun-dipped Superman>>>sun-amped Superman>>>base Superman~/<Countdown Orion>Darkseid(barely).

Now obviously if this is Soulfire Orion, then it is spite in his favor.

Soul fire Orion stomps.

Don't forget as well, Orion is fated to kill Darkseid. So him beating DS isn't THAT amazing. Still an uber feat, to be sure.

This is countdown orion.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
the one that killed DS

Originally posted by Galan007
During Superman/Batman, Superman was able to beat the ever-loving shit out of Darkseid(far, far easier than Orion did mind you), just by moving within close proximity to the sun:
http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16836114_Superman-Batman_013-007.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16836115_Superman-Batman_013-008.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16836117_Superman-Batman_013-009.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16836118_Superman-Batman_013-010.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16836119_Superman-Batman_013-011.jpg
...Just to add insult to injury, he damn near tore Darkseid's arm off.

Tbh, even though Supes just had a slight sun-amp in the above scene, I'd probably still give him the win over a team-up of both Darkseid AND Orion combined. Giving Supes a formal/OWAW sun-dip realistically makes this spite in his favor, imo. My opinion: sun-dipped Superman>>>sun-amped Superman>>>base Superman~/<Countdown Orion>Darkseid(barely).

Now obviously if this is Soulfire Orion, then it is spite in his favor.

That is one of the most poorly written peices of shit that I have ever read. It's spectacular to think that Darkseid conveniently forgets that he has about 10 other powers that he could be using to beat the ever loving crap out of Superman(not to mention that Superman and Darkseid are somehow talking in space and Superman hasn't ran out of oxygen with his monologue). I also don't understand how superman is somehow capable of flying into the demension of the New Gods without the aid of magic or of a boom tube. Darkseid losing that fight is completely PIS at its finest. Orion wins this 7/10

Superman stomps utterly.

Originally posted by deathslash
It's spectacular to think that Darkseid conveniently forgets that he has about 10 other powers that he could be using to beat the ever loving crap out of Superman Yes, because Darkseid's Omega Powers are always a surefire path to victory against Superman!

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836411_1.jpg

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836412_2.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836413_3.jpg

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836415_4.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836416_5.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836417_6.jpg

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836418_7.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836420_8.jpg

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836421_9.jpg

Heh, superman eats omega beams like breakfast. Even doomsday was briefly knocked out by them.

Originally posted by deathslash


That is one of the most poorly written peices of shit that I have ever read. It's spectacular to think that Darkseid conveniently forgets that he has about 10 other powers that he could be using to beat the ever loving crap out of Superman(not to mention that Superman and Darkseid are somehow talking in space and Superman hasn't ran out of oxygen with his monologue). I also don't understand how superman is somehow capable of flying into the demension of the New Gods without the aid of magic or of a boom tube. Darkseid losing that fight is completely PIS at its finest. Orion wins this 7/10

Didn't the JLA have boom tubes on tap for a time? And they just got back from Apokolips, so he probably had one on him.

Agreed about Darkseid, though. In the 90's, he caught Superman with his Omegas all the time. Teleports, or straight overpowering.

And then "Apokolips Now" happened.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yes, because Darkseid's Omega Powers are always a surefire path to victory against Superman!

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836411_1.jpg

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836412_2.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836413_3.jpg

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836415_4.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836416_5.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836417_6.jpg

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836418_7.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836420_8.jpg

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836421_9.jpg You misunderstand me. I wasn't talking about his omega powers. I was actually talking about his telepathy, energy manipulation, matter manipulation, teleportation, and other powers. has been stated several times before that superman is protected by the source from Darkseid's omega beams.

I can't comment on the first scan because I didn't read the book.
In your second set of scans, Darkseid is just using his force beams and isn't actually using the full omega effect and it is still hurting Clark.

Is the last set of scans from Apokolips Now(because that is actually one of Darkseid's lowest showings to date and it was also really crappy writing)?

Originally posted by cdtm
Didn't the JLA have boom tubes on tap for a time? And they just got back from Apokolips, so he probably had one on him.

Agreed about Darkseid, though. In the 90's, he caught Superman with his Omegas all the time. Teleports, or straight overpowering.

And then "Apokolips Now" happened. They didn't have boom tubes on tap in that story(That's the reason that they had to ask Big Barda for one). Even if Superman did have a boom tube with him(which he didn't), it still didn't show him using it.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yes, because Darkseid's Omega Powers are always a surefire path to victory against Superman!

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836411_1.jpg

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836412_2.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836413_3.jpg

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836415_4.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836416_5.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836417_6.jpg

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836418_7.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836420_8.jpg

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836421_9.jpg

Bad writing.

Not because Supes shrugged off the Omegas, but because the writers were pretty clueless about how to build up and protect characters. Jobbing a badass out all the time usually just crushes the badasses rep...

Originally posted by Galan007
During Superman/Batman, Superman was able to beat the ever-loving shit out of Darkseid(far, far easier than Orion did mind you), just by moving within close proximity to the sun:
http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16836114_Superman-Batman_013-007.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16836115_Superman-Batman_013-008.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16836117_Superman-Batman_013-009.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16836118_Superman-Batman_013-010.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16836119_Superman-Batman_013-011.jpg
...Just to add insult to injury, he damn near tore Darkseid's arm off.

Tbh, even though Supes just had a slight sun-amp in the above scene, I'd probably still give him the win over a team-up of both Darkseid AND Orion combined. Giving Supes a formal/OWAW sun-dip realistically makes this spite in his favor, imo. My opinion: sun-dipped Superman>>>sun-amped Superman>>>base Superman~/<Countdown Orion>Darkseid(barely).

Now obviously if this is Soulfire Orion, then it is spite in his favor.



Orion is good but Superman is better.

Originally posted by deathslash
You misunderstand me. I wasn't talking about his omega powers. I was actually talking about his telepathy, energy manipulation, matter manipulation, teleportation, and other powers. has been stated several times before that superman is protected by the source from Darkseid's omega beams.

I can't comment on the first scan because I didn't read the book.
In your second set of scans, Darkseid is just using his force beams and isn't actually using the full omega effect and it is still hurting Clark.

Is the last set of scans from Apokolips Now(because that is actually one of Darkseid's lowest showing to date and it was also really crappy writing)? Darkseid has used exotic abilities, like those you mentioned, about as often as classic Juggernaut used his force-field(not much at all.) That said, to act as though his lack of using said abilities in every single battle he's ever been in constitutes "PIS", actually goes against his character as a whole. In fact, he pretty much stopped using those abilities all together after the early/mid-90's or so...

Darkseid was using the Omega Beams in those scans, as confirmed by Infinity Man in the subsequent page:
http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836437_1.jpg

Shitty writing doesn't make something non-canon, unfortunately.

Originally posted by cdtm
Bad writing.

Not because Supes shrugged off the Omegas, but because the writers were pretty clueless about how to build up and protect characters. Jobbing a badass out all the time usually just crushes the badasses rep...

I disagree. Physically imo, Supes has always been above Darkseid (minus Pre Crisis of course.

Originally posted by Galan007
Darkseid has used exotic abilities, like those you mentioned, about as often as classic Juggernaut used his force-field. To act like his lack of using said abilities in every single battle he's ever been in constitutes "PIS", actually goes against his character as a whole. In fact, he pretty much stopped using those abilities all together after the mid-90's or so...

Darkseid was using the Omega Beams in those scans, as confirmed by Infinity Man in the subsequent page:
http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16836437_1.jpg

Shitty writing doesn't make something non-canon, unfortunately. I wasn't saying that his lack of using his exotic abilities is PIS. I was saying that badly losing an outright fight to someone that you have consistently been shown to be several time more powerful than is PIS. Yes, he was using his omega beams but he wasn't using the disintegration effect of them. You should know that he can use them to do several different things(teleportation,transmutation, erasing somone from existence, heat vision, etc..).

Darkseid really should be well above Superman. Sadly, though, more showings than not suggest otherwise.

Considering the same writer who wrote Apokolips Now, Mark Schultzh had Darkseid beat superman in 3 punches in MOS 116 earlier, I don't see why people especially darkseid fans think its a low showing. Superman specifically said "Today I'm stronger" and a superman who is motivated for a close friend's life would beat most characters' faces in.


I've to say, of all the fandoms New God fandom is the whiniest bunch of all I've ever seen, they want their characters to beat everyone up just because they are gods and Jack Kirby created them.

Originally posted by Galan007
Darkseid really should be well above Superman. Sadly, though, more showings than not suggest otherwise. Darkseid is well above superman. Out of the twenty-some odd fights that they have had against one another, Clark has only won about three times in continuity.

Originally posted by deathslash
Yes, he was using his omega beams but he wasn't using the disintegration effect of them. You should know that he can use them to do several different things(teleportation,transmutation, erasing somone from existence, heat vision, etc..). I'll ask you as I've asked others: show me a scan which states there is a discernible difference between the Omega Beams, and the Omega Effect, and I'll concede the point.

Until then, I am going to keep assuming they are the exact same thing, and the title simply differs depending on the writer.

Originally posted by deathslash
Darkseid is well above superman. Out of the twenty-some odd fights that they have had against one another, Clark has only won about three times in continuity. In the last 20(ish) years? I'd beg to differ.

Originally posted by Galan007
I'll ask you as I've asked others: show me a scan which states there is a discernible difference between the Omega Beams, and the Omega Effect, and I'll concede the point.

Until then, I am going to keep assuming they are the exact same thing, and the title simply differs depending on the writer.

In the last 20(ish) years? I'd beg to differ. I think they are the same thing(Darkseid just does a variety of different things with them).

Originally posted by abhilegend
Considering the same writer who wrote Apokolips Now, Mark Schultzh had Darkseid beat superman in 3 punches in MOS 116 earlier, I don't see why people especially darkseid fans think its a low showing. Superman specifically said "Today I'm stronger" and a superman who is motivated for a close friend's life would beat most characters' faces in.


I've to say, of all the fandoms New God fandom is the whiniest bunch of all I've ever seen, they want their characters to beat everyone up just because they are gods and Jack Kirby created them. So... you're saying that if superman were motivated for a close friend's life he could beat up say........ Odin(I recognise that Darkseid isn't as powerful as odin, it's just a comparison)? Are Clarks power levels elevated when he's super confident now? Just because Clark thinks that he's stronger doesn't actually mean that he is(Not to mention that Clark is usually fighting against Darkseid not just for the lives of his friends and family but also for the lives of all of creation and he still gets dominated even when he has help).

I'm actually not a New Gods fan, I just have a fair level of respect for them.

Originally posted by deathslash
I think they are the same thing(Darkseid just does a variety of different things with them).

Originally posted by deathslash
So... you're saying that if superman were motivated for a close friend's life he could beat up say........ Odin(I recognise that Darkseid isn't as powerful as odin, it's just a comparison)? Are Clarks power levels elevated when he's super confident now? Just because Clark thinks that he's stronger doesn't actually mean that he is(Not to mention that Clark is usually fighting against Darkseid not just for the lives of his friends and family but also for the lives of all of creation and he still gets dominated even when he has help).

I'm actually not a New Gods fan, I just have a fair level of respect for them.
Yes, he could. Superman is a plot device in himself, don't let battleboards fool you. This is what he did to universal death who actually destroyed the universe.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supersting-57.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supersting-58.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supersting-59.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supersting-60.jpg

Does he always works on that level? Of course not. But losing to superman isn't an insult like most people think it is. At the right moment he can beat anybody.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, he could. Superman is a plot device in himself, don't let battleboards fool you. This is what he did to universal death who actually destroyed the universe.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supersting-57.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supersting-58.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supersting-59.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_supersting-60.jpg

Does he always works on that level? Of course not. But losing to superman isn't an insult like most people think it is. At the right moment he can beat anybody. I can certainly agree with that thought. Superman is a plot device. I'm still not certain of how his anger can amp him to such a degree that he can beat down someone that has consistently shown that even when Clark wasn't holding back, he still couldn't hurt him(It's not like he's the hulk and can get even stronger the angrier he gets). I'm not upset that Superman beat Darkseid (everyone has their low and high showings), but I'm upset that he beat him without any real challange. Even assuming that Clark does get stronger when he has a greater resolve, he shouldn't be punking Darkseid so easily.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Considering the same writer who wrote Apokolips Now, Mark Schultzh had Darkseid beat superman in 3 punches in MOS 116 earlier, I don't see why people especially darkseid fans think its a low showing. Superman specifically said "Today I'm stronger" and a superman who is motivated for a close friend's life would beat most characters' faces in.


I've to say, of all the fandoms New God fandom is the whiniest bunch of all I've ever seen, they want their characters to beat everyone up just because they are gods and Jack Kirby created them.

Are you ****ing serious?

You of all people are going to complain about bitchy fans that have unrealistic expectations?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Are you ****ing serious?

You of all people are going to complain about bitchy fans that have unrealistic expectations?


I don't act like new god fans who whine at every loss orion and darkseid get. You should visit CBR sometimes to get that.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Are you ****ing serious?

You of all people are going to complain about bitchy fans that have unrealistic expectations?



http://a1-wrestling.com/forum/Smileys/default/Francis.gif

Originally posted by abhilegend
I don't act like new god fans who whine at every loss orion and darkseid get. You should visit CBR sometimes to get that.

Yeah, because you never spin any weakness you perceive about Superman in to something else.

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Originally posted by -Pr-
Yeah, because you never spin any weakness you perceive about Superman in to something else.

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Nope, what gave you that idea?

131dur

If DOTNG and Countdown Orion are considered different versions, then DOTNG Orion looses here.
Needed some clarification.

Apart from that, Loeb and the non-writer that did Apokolips now easily make the list of worst New Gods writers ever.
Same with Chuck Austen and Superman, but with character jobbing as an added bonus.

Also abhilegend complaining about "fans" made my day.
Good one, couldn't stop laughing for a while.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, he could. Superman is a plot device in himself, don't let battleboards fool you. This is what he did to universal death who actually destroyed the universe.

http://s1113.photobucket.com/user/abhilegend/media/Superman/supersting-60.jpg.html


Death was seen all well and fine in the few following pages. Sure he defied death, but didn't really do anything to it, imo. Aside from giving it hope or something like that.
And im pretty sure it was multiversal, from what i recall, it's stated to destroy universes (plural).

Originally posted by comicfan11
If DOTNG and Countdown Orion are considered different versions, then DOTNG Orion looses here.
Needed some clarification.

Apart from that, Loeb and the non-writer that did Apokolips now easily make the list of worst New Gods writers ever.
Same with Chuck Austen and Superman, but with character jobbing as an added bonus.

Also abhilegend complaining about "fans" made my day.
Good one, couldn't stop laughing for a while.
Glad to help.Originally posted by operator616
Death was seen all well and fine in the few following pages. Sure he defied death, but didn't really do anything to it, imo. Aside from giving it hope or something like that.
And im pretty sure it was multiversal, from what i recall, it's stated to destroy universes (plural).
He punched through death and defeated it. Also I recall it was universal.

Originally posted by deathslash


That is one of the most poorly written peices of shit that I have ever read. It's spectacular to think that Darkseid conveniently forgets that he has about 10 other powers that he could be using to beat the ever loving crap out of Superman(not to mention that Superman and Darkseid are somehow talking in space and Superman hasn't ran out of oxygen with his monologue). I also don't understand how superman is somehow capable of flying into the demension of the New Gods without the aid of magic or of a boom tube. Darkseid losing that fight is completely PIS at its finest. Orion wins this 7/10

I'm not a Darkseid expert, but the vast majority(but not every time) of times I've seen Darkseid use his more esoteric powers has to do with either facing opponents a lot more powerful than Superman, or against opponents who are less conventional and would require a more exotic approach. If this view I have fits with the rest of Post-CRISIS/Pre-FLASHPOINT continuity, then you're complaining about CIS, not PIS. As for Superman taking Darkseid to The Source Wall, this WAS all a plan to trick Darkseid into thinking he killed Kara, so it would make sense he'd either have a Mother Box on him or someone ready to Boom Tube him to The Source Wall. Of course there's a touch of assumption there that that's what happened, but the comic did confirm it was to trick Darkseid.

Originally posted by operator616
Death was seen all well and fine in the few following pages. Sure he defied death, but didn't really do anything to it, imo. Aside from giving it hope or something like that.
And im pretty sure it was multiversal, from what i recall, it's stated to destroy universes (plural).

Should we hold it against Superman that someone on that level of power can simply reform themselves and say that means it wasn't really that impressive?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Heh, superman eats omega beams like breakfast. Even doomsday was briefly knocked out by them. The same Dd who was shredding an amped Superman as well. Context.

Originally posted by Delta1938
I'm not a Darkseid expert, but the vast majority(but not every time) of times I've seen Darkseid use his more esoteric powers has to do with either facing opponents a lot more powerful than Superman, or against opponents who are less conventional and would require a more exotic approach. If this view I have fits with the rest of Post-CRISIS/Pre-FLASHPOINT continuity, then you're complaining about CIS, not PIS. As for Superman taking Darkseid to The Source Wall, this WAS all a plan to trick Darkseid into thinking he killed Kara, so it would make sense he'd either have a Mother Box on him or someone ready to Boom Tube him to The Source Wall. Of course there's a touch of assumption there that that's what happened, but the comic did confirm it was to trick Darkseid.
A touch of assumption? Most of that is assumption(it's not like later on Superman said "hey Barda, thanks for opening that boom tube for me, it really reduced the time it took to get to the source wall.". Also, Bruce and Barda basically left and went back to their respective cities because they basically thought this whole fiasco was over with and Diana was literally the only one that stayed behind and helped Clark) Your also forgetting that Superman was somehow doing a monologue in space without any source of oxygen.

That's not that hard to believe. Comic characters do it all the time.

Originally posted by deathslash
A touch of assumption? Most of that is assumption(it's not like later on Superman said "hey Barda, thanks for opening that boom tube for me, it really reduced the time it took to get to the source wall.". Also, Bruce and Barda basically left and went back to their respective cities because they basically thought this whole fiasco was over with and Diana was literally the only one that stayed behind and helped Clark)

Perhaps it is assuming, but it doesn't change the fact that they planned this ahead of time. Find an alternate explanation?

Originally posted by deathslash
Your also forgetting that Superman was somehow doing a monologue in space without any source of oxygen.

I'm only forgetting because shit like this happens in comics. In ZERO HOUR, Wally was talking to Waverider despite going so fast he could no longer see, which would be a lot faster than sound. These aren't the only illogical things that happen in comics. Try a little suspension of disbelief. Otherwise it's like the writer of the FARSIDE comic strip pointed-out. He wrote one where the father of a mosquito family said his job was to drink blood. The writer got many letters correcting him that only the females of mosquitoes drink blood(which is true). The writer pointed-out they had issue with this, yet no problem with a family of mosquitoes that lived in a house, wore clothes and spoke English. You complaining about that part seems a little silly when you've got a universe full of talking, telepathic gorillas and time travel and the like.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also I recall it was universal.

"worlds will dissolve, universes will perish"

http://i.imgur.com/p6PWJhR.jpg?1

Implying that this death was multiversal.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Should we hold it against Superman that someone on that level of power can simply reform themselves and say that means it wasn't really that impressive?
He was only correcting abhi that Superman didn't simply defeat it with his fists. Adding context to a feat doesn't equate to downplaying it.

Originally posted by operator616
"worlds will dissolve, universes will perish"

http://i.imgur.com/p6PWJhR.jpg?1

Implying that this death was multiversal.
That's good.

How did superman humbling him with his fists and Death admitted that superman defeated him outright means he defeated him by giving him hope?Originally posted by TheGodKiller
He was only correcting abhi that Superman didn't simply defeat it with his fists. Adding context to a feat doesn't equate to downplaying it.
What context? Superman punched through Death and after that he talked about how superman gave him hope or some crap after admitting superman defeated him. Before that he was adamant about torturing him forever. He didn't beat it by anything but his fists.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
He was only correcting abhi that Superman didn't simply defeat it with his fists. Adding context to a feat doesn't equate to downplaying it.

Never saw Abhi claim he defeated it with his fists, simply showing Superman punching through a form of Death trying to kill him. Which, Superman did. It's like when people try to act like it's no big deal Superman burst through SF Darkseid because Darkseid reformed himself immediately after.

Speaking of that, I took what the guy said to Abhi as pretty much that. Death reforming=Superman accomplished nothing.



Originally posted by abhilegend
That's good.

How did superman humbling him with his fists and Death admitted that superman defeated him outright means he defeated him by giving him hope?
What context? Superman punched through Death and after that he talked about how superman gave him hope or some crap after admitting superman defeated him. Before that he was adamant about torturing him forever. He didn't beat it by anything but his fists.

I hate you Abhi for making me a liar!!! My next beef dish is dedicated to you.

He outright said it.

Originally posted by abhilegend

How did superman humbling him with his fists and Death admitted that superman defeated him outright means he defeated him by giving him hope?


Never said he defeated it by giving him hope. All i said that the end result of all this was superman giving death hope.

The very next page shows that death was fine. So what did superman do exactly? Superman defeated it in the sense that he proved that death is not the master of all things, it's not like he defeated death physically because we see it unharmed exactly 1 page afterwards.

Anyway, i didn't reply to this the 2nd time because i know you'll disagree.

Originally posted by operator616
Never said he defeated it by giving him hope. All i said that the end result of all this was superman giving death hope.

The very next page shows that death was fine. So what did superman do exactly? Superman defeated it in the sense that he proved that death is not the master of all things, it's not like he defeated death physically because we see it unharmed exactly 1 page afterwards.

Anyway, i didn't reply to this the 2nd time because i know you'll disagree.
Yes, superman gave Death hope because he learnt something which he wasn't supposed to learn. Happens all the time. It doesn't mean he wasn't beaten. Its like saying just because Darkseid survived after superman beat the shit out of him, he wasn't beaten. Superman defeated Death by just punching him, Death appeared later to him, conceded to him and said he got some hope from superman and that's it.

Except superman beat him physically and that's why Death released him in the first place when he was denying it just one page before superman punched through him and Death didn't concede about psychologically beaten just one page after.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Never saw Abhi claim he defeated it with his fists, simply showing Superman punching through a form of Death trying to kill him. Which, Superman did. It's like when people try to act like it's no big deal Superman burst through SF Darkseid because Darkseid reformed himself immediately after.

Speaking of that, I took what the guy said to Abhi as pretty much that. Death reforming=Superman accomplished nothing.





I hate you Abhi for making me a liar!!! My next beef dish is dedicated to you.
Even before the previous post, abhi was implying that Superman defeated that Death Entity by punching it. That's the same as saying he beat it with his fists.

No, he merely added context to the feat. That's not him downplaying.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's good.

How did superman humbling him with his fists and Death admitted that superman defeated him outright means he defeated him by giving him hope?
What context? Superman punched through Death and after that he talked about how superman gave him hope or some crap after admitting superman defeated him. Before that he was adamant about torturing him forever. He didn't beat it by anything but his fists.
Operator pointed out that punching him didn't outright defeat him. This isn't the first time you've been caught incorrectly comprehending a comic book to exaggerate the feat(s) of your fave character.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Operator pointed out that punching him didn't outright defeat him. This isn't the first time you've been caught incorrectly comprehending a comic book to exaggerate the feat(s) of your fave character.


And you always run your mouth without checking it. He only said that Death reformed in the next page. Also lulz @ not outright defeat him when he outright admitted that superman defeated him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And you always run your mouth without checking it. He only said that Death reformed in the next page. Also lulz @ not outright defeat him when he outright admitted that superman defeated him.
You have a problem comprehending posts just like you do with comics. He clearly pointed out to you that Superman didn't beat it by punching it. He provided a reason for why that entity believed itself to be beaten by Superman, and it wasn't punching. How is it admitting that it was defeated an indication that it was beaten by superpunches? Or do you have a problem comprehending simple English just like you do forum posts and comics in general?

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
You have a problem comprehending posts just like you do with comics. He clearly pointed out to you that Superman didn't beat it by punching it. facepalm

You are by far the most clueless poster I've ever met. He outright said Superman beat him by punches, he said Death reformed later.



And you caught it without even reading anything about the comic at all.

Because that's only thing superman did to him. Just stop. You're now just embarrassing yourself.

Originally posted by abhilegend
facepalm

You are by far the most clueless poster I've ever met. He outright said Superman beat him by punches, he said Death reformed later.



And you caught it without even reading anything about the comic at all.

Because that's only thing superman did to him.
Yes, because words like "Sure he defied death, but didn't really do anything to it" and "The very next page shows that death was fine" clearly scream aloud that "Superman beat him via fisticuffs ftw!!1!1!!". Or it might be another fine example of you being incapable of comprehending basic sentences, which you have shown a particular finesse for in the last couple of posts in this thread.

He explained that it wasn't due to punches. Considering the innumerable times you've been caught in the past lying about feats and making sh1t up, while operator has done so never, don't blame me for being more inclined to trust his word over yours.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Just stop. You're now just embarrassing yourself.
The irony of this isn't lost on me.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Yes, because words like "Sure he defied death, but didn't really do anything to it" and "The very next page shows that death was fine" clearly scream aloud that "Superman beat him via fisticuffs ftw!!1!1!!". He said Death reformed one page later. He didn't say superman didn't beat him or something. Hahaha. Just laughable coming from you.

He explained it wasn't with hope either. So how did superman defeated Death? Considering you've said yourself that operator was acting like galacticstorm and making shit up in past, it shows just how much of a hypocrite you are. Good job riding his arguments though.

There is no irony here, just you riding someone like always. Just like the hypocrisy.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Operator has become the new GalacticStorm. Without all of that Phoenix obsession.

every single one of the superman threads become painful to read.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He said Death reformed one page later. He didn't say superman didn't beat him or something. Hahaha. Just laughable coming from you.

He explained it wasn't with hope either. So how did superman defeated Death? Considering you've said yourself that operator was acting like galacticstorm and making shit up in past, it shows just how much of a hypocrite you are. Good job riding his arguments though.

There is no irony here, just you riding someone like always. Just like the hypocrisy.
He disagreed with your ridiculous claim that Superman punched him to defeat. That's the point which you've been missing so far, although the true reason might be your pitiful reading comprehension issues.

I assure that this is yet another case of your misinterpreting others' posts. For one, that is clearly in reference to his scan-blitz clashes with Mr Master in recent times, which is reminiscent of the Master/GalacticStorm scan wars of old. Secondly I've never accused him once of being dishonest in any way possible. That's another instance of your tendency to lie on top of misinterpreting simple English.

Oh, the irony is certainly there, it is certainly in an overload mode, and it is quite clearly on the part of a certain Superman-fan whom the House of El has already disowned.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
He disagreed with your ridiculous claim that Superman punched him to defeat. That's the point which you've been missing so far, although the true reason might be your pitiful reading comprehension issues. Death and the comic disagrees with him and you. That's all that matters. Also no bite for your pitiful trolling attempt.

Oh, now you're claiming that was a compliment. El oh El.

So you've nothing but these pathetic attempts of baiting me? Concession accepted. Now run along and back up your claims by your own and not ride on somebody else's arguments.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Death and the comic disagrees with him and you. That's all that matters. Also no bite for your pitiful trolling attempt.

Oh, now you're claiming that was a compliment. El oh El.

So you've nothing but these pathetic attempts of baiting me? Concession accepted. Now run along and back up your claims by your own and not ride on somebody else's arguments.
I don't need to worry about that, as operator already disproved your exaggeration+lie+misinterpretation combo with scans from the comic itself.

Considering that I've never actually trolled him as I often do other posters on these forums(Galan, Leo, ODG, MrMaster, Bran among others), yes, I'd consider it a compliment. Or are you so simple-minded that I have to go back to the thread in question to specify what I meant when I said that he had become the new GS? Even though the rest of my post("without all of the Phoenix obsession" should have made it clear in the first place?

You have a funny way of trying to quanchi around, considering how much effort you put into fleeing from him. Lol on the baiting part though. Gave me a good laugh.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I don't need to worry about that, as operator already disproved your exaggeration+lie+misinterpretation combo with scans from the comic itself. Operator didn't disprove anything and he just produced one scan which showed that Death was multiversal.



Hahaha, sure thing buddy. I would send your regards to operator too.

I just ignore him, its fun to see him trying to get my attention.

Also you got your laugh. Anything else?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Operator didn't disprove anything and he just produced one scan which showed that Death was multiversal.
He disproved your claim that Death was defeated via punches by pointing out that it was fine on later pages. He called you out on your misinterpretation. He also disproved your assertion that it was a universal being. You were proven wrong.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hahaha, sure thing buddy. I would send your regards to operator too.
I accept you submitting to me.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I just ignore him, its fun to see him trying to get my attention.

Also you got your laugh. Anything else?
You fear him. It's all too evident from the effort you put into avoiding having to argue with him. Disgraceful.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
He disproved your claim that Death was defeated via punches by pointing out that it was fine on later pages. While Death admitted defeat which he omitted. Being fine doesn't mean he wasn't defeated. And I disproved his claims. He did nothing but post his interpretation without posting any scans. He was wrong, you are wrong. Move on.

Hahahaha.

I pity him as much I do to you.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller

You fear him. It's all too evident from the effort you put into avoiding having to argue with him. Disgraceful.

So.....Superman wins. Now I've brought it back on topic.

Originally posted by Raisen
every single one of the superman threads become painful to read.

Originally posted by abhilegend
While Death admitted defeat which he omitted. Being fine doesn't mean he wasn't defeated. And I disproved his claims. He did nothing but post his interpretation without posting any scans. He was wrong, you are wrong. Move on.

Hahahaha.

I pity him as much I do to you.


It didn't affect him. He proved his point. He explained why the entity believed itself defeated, and it had nothing to do with getting boxed around. You disproved jack sh1t. He was right. You were wrong. Point proven.

Get back to me when you learn how to even utilize the quote function properly.

You have nightmares of him. How embarrassing.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller

It didn't affect him. It defeated him. Not at all. He did nothing and the entity never explained hope to be the reason it was defeated. How do you even know it since he never posted a scan of the entity saying anything like that?

I disproved everything. Lulz, chant it untill you believe it.

Hahahaha. You can't even do it yourself.

I laugh at him just like I'm laughing at you for being a hypocrite of highest order.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It defeated him. Not at all. He did nothing and the entity never explained hope to be the reason it was defeated. How do you even know it since he never posted a scan of the entity saying anything like that?

I disproved everything. Lulz, chant it untill you believe it.

Hahahaha. You can't even do it yourself.

I laugh at him just like I'm laughing at you for being a hypocrite of highest order.
It was fine later on. Operator explained the context behind the feat. Superman didn't beat it by punching it. You lack the ability to comprehend comics, or even basic English itself.

It's clear that the word "everything" in your vocabulary is synonymous with "jack-sh1t" then.

Your flawed quoting is the reason my own post came out wrong. Of course you might have caught wind of it if you even knew how the quote function works. I also usually don't edit other people's posts.

Your fear of quan, your inability to comprehend comics, your inability to properly utilize the quote function(or even understand how it works) and your overall poor grasp of the English language is appalling.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
It was fine later on.

What does that have to do with the fact that superman beat him and Death conceded it. Superman isn't a killer.
Never did. He did and he conceded that he was wrong. Your desperation to have the last word is amusing, last time bada had to stop you from literally crying.

In your dictionary maybe. In mine it means "everything".

You don't even have your argument. Also if you could just delete, you could've avoided it just like I did. Maybe you should learn about typing first.

Hahahaha. You're like quan with none of his trolling capacity trying to troll. Quite amusing. I got quite a laugh.

Guys, cut it out with the personal comments. Seriously.

^Edit: Didn't see that.
Originally posted by abhilegend


What does that have to do with the fact that superman beat him and Death conceded it. Superman isn't a killer.
Never did. He did and he conceded that he was wrong. Your desperation to have the last word is amusing, last time bada had to stop you from literally crying.

In your dictionary maybe. In mine it means "everything".

You don't even have your argument. Also if you could just delete, you could've avoided it just like I did. Maybe you should learn about typing first.

Hahahaha. You're like quan with none of his trolling capacity trying to troll. Quite amusing. I got quite a laugh.
It was fine. It wasn't beaten via punches. Operator proved it.

Nope, it's clear that your vocabulary is as messed up as you.

You really don't have the first clue what you're talking about, do you? Delete has nothing to do with anything. Ask any other poster here to try and quote-preview your botched post. It'll end looking just the same as mine, and it's attributable to your snag:
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q487/TheGodKiller666/abhi_quote_botch_zps894ebf79.jpg
I already pointed out that I don't edit other people's posts. Ironic, you trying lecture me on how to properly utilize the QF when your quote-snag is the reason both our posts got botched in the first place.

Concession accepted.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
^Edit: Didn't see that. Ah, so you can edit now.



Post the scans if he did that and not just arguments.

Its fine than yours though.

I know why it happened, its just laughable that you were trying to lecture me on quoting while you can't do it by yourself too. Pointing the fault on me wouldn't save your face from hypocrisy.
It was a typo. Seriously, you are just being desperate now.

Whatever helps you sleep at the night.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Ah, so you can edit now.



Post the scans if he did that and not just arguments.

Its fine than yours though.

I know why it happened, its just laughable that you were trying to lecture me on quoting while you can't do it by yourself too. Pointing the fault on me wouldn't save your face from hypocrisy.
It was a typo. Seriously, you are just being desperate now.

Whatever helps you sleep at the night.
My post. Not someone else's. You seriously need to brush up your reading comprehension skills. This thread is an appalling example of how poor and sub-par they are.

Operator already did so. He disproved your exaggeration with context.

"It's finer than yours." That sentence is a perfect example of your defective vocabulary.

You're either blind, considering how you can't read what I write, or you suffer from some major disorder which might explain your less-than-pitiful comprehension abilities and grasp of basic English. There was no quote-botch on my part, it was all on you. Your snag is what caused my post to appear the way it did, and any other poster here can preview your botched post to confirm it. The only way to avoid it would have been to edit out YOUR botch, which I didn't do so because I usually don't others' posts, and to also showcase what a failure you are at using basic features of KMC forums like the quote function. I am not sure whether even a preliminary school child would need such an extensive explanation on what they did wrong, but I guess comparing you to a prelim kid is equitable insulting said kid.

Your humiliation won't be grieved upon.

@abhilegend:


Im not sure from where are you getting that i said superman defeated death by punching. I never said that.

When death appeared for the last time, superman thought that he was going to engage in another battle, and said that he can't because he was too tired (seems also to imply that Death had superman at a disadvantage there), yet Death told him that he isn't there to put superman in another battle but came to thank him because he made him aware that death is not the master of all things as well as made him aware of something inside his soul....hope. Here are the consecutive scans for everyone to see:

http://i.imgur.com/SR7Hz7U.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ACVz7sq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Q2XXLri.jpg

so superman did absolutely nothing - nothing at all - to Death, it was completely unharmed (which also makes sense considering that Death is an abstract)

Now you can have your own interpretation that superman punched through death but ultimately it doesn't matter, because we know that Death was seen fine the very next page (and that's my main point)

Still though, you and i both know that for those who just looked at your scans without having read the issue (which would be the majority, since superman where is thy sting, isn't a popular comic) they thought that superman outright oneshot-destroyed Death.

Originally posted by operator616
@abhilegend:


Im not sure from where are you getting that i said superman defeated death by punching. I never said that.

When death appeared for the last time, superman thought that he was going to engage in another battle, and said that he can't because he was too tired (seems also to imply that Death had superman at a disadvantage there), yet Death told him that he isn't there to put superman in another battle but came to thank him because he made him aware that death is not the master of all things as well as made him aware of something inside his soul....hope. Here are the consecutive scans for everyone to see:

http://i.imgur.com/SR7Hz7U.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ACVz7sq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Q2XXLri.jpg

so superman did absolutely nothing - nothing at all - to Death, it was completely unharmed (which also makes sense considering that Death is an abstract)

Now you can have your own interpretation that superman punched through death but ultimately it doesn't matter, because we know that Death was seen fine the very next page (and that's my main point)

Still though, you and i both know that for those who just looked at your scans without having read the issue (which would be the majority, since superman where is they sting, isn't a popular comic) they thought that superman outright oneshot-destroyed Death.
It's his shtick. Constantly misinterpreting comics to make the characters he likes look better, and the ones he dislikes worse.

Just check out the Debunking Thread on the Comic Books Forum. That's a prime example of abhilegend in action.

He was able to physically damage a multiversal being. The fact that the being had to reform on the next page would count as a forum win here.

Another feat that is being overlooked here is that The Source was trying to defeat /destroy Soulfire DS but couldn't even scratch him and superman cut him in half.

Originally posted by Diesldude
He was able to physically damage a multiversal being. The fact that the begin had to reform on the next page would count as a forum win here.

Another feat that is being overlooked here is that The Source was trying to defeat /destroy Soulfire DS but couldn't even scratch him and superman cut him in half.
Forum Rules don't suggest that. If the Sentry reforms from getting destroyed by his wife's Skrull weapon, then that doesn't count as a forum win for the skrull-armed wife. It's impressive enough that he was able to affect an entity as powerful as that one. Let's not go ahead and exaggerate that he simply defeated it by punching it something fierce.

Originally posted by operator616
@abhilegend:


Im not sure from where are you getting that i said superman defeated death by punching. I never said that. You said superman didn't beat Death by hope either, yet he defeated Death by Death's own admission.



facepalm

Are you trying to suggest that Death conceding superman defeated him after superman punched him means nothing just because Death appeared unharmed?

http://s6.postimg.org/5962ixcz5/stfu.jpg

He punched through it and defeated him per Death's own admission. I can't even believe that an enemy appearing unharmed later means he wasn't defeated. How many comics have you read?

Later appearing fine doesn't means shit. Death conceded superman defeated him after he punched him and broke Death's control. Does everytime when a character gets up from a KO one page later means he wasn't beaten?

Never said that. I said superman defeated him.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
It's his shtick. Constantly misinterpreting comics to make the characters he likes look better, and the ones he dislikes worse.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
My post. Not someone else's. You seriously need to brush up your reading comprehension skills. This thread is an appalling example of how poor and sub-par they are.

Operator already did so. He disproved your exaggeration with context.

"It's finer than yours." That sentence is a perfect example of your defective vocabulary.

You're either blind, considering how you can't read what I write, or you suffer from some major disorder which might explain your less-than-pitiful comprehension abilities and grasp of basic English. There was no quote-botch on my part, it was all on you. Your snag is what caused my post to appear the way it did, and any other poster here can preview your botched post to confirm it. The only way to avoid it would have been to edit out YOUR botch, which I didn't do so because I usually don't others' posts, and to also showcase what a failure you are at using basic features of KMC forums like the quote function. I am not sure whether even a preliminary school child would need such an extensive explanation on what they did wrong, but I guess comparing you to a prelim kid is equitable insulting said kid.

Your humiliation won't be grieved upon.
Your post is just riding on someone else's argument. Typical.

He did nothing of that sort. He is just being stubborn.

Ok, grammar nazi.


Blah, blah, blah. It was one typo. Deal with it. Pr already said cut it out.

Your humiliation is already upon you.Originally posted by TheGodKiller
It's his shtick. Constantly misinterpreting comics to make the characters he likes look better, and the ones he dislikes worse.

Just check out the Debunking Thread on the Comic Books Forum. That's a prime example of abhilegend in action.


You are desperate, I get it.

Originally posted by operator616

Seriously? So I can put a scan of a character appearing fine after a knock out and claim he was just fine and the KO never happened even though he conceded it and its exaggeration? Are you seriously that ignorant?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Your post is just riding on someone else's argument. Typical.

He did nothing of that sort. He is just being stubborn.

Ok, grammar nazi.

Blah, blah, blah. It was one typo. Deal with it. Pr already said cut it out.

Your humiliation is already upon you.
Remind what relevancy that has w.r.t you with you trying to point out my edit addressing Pr as some sort of hypocritical stance. Oh right, it has none. You making a pointless point, just like always.

Nope, you're the one who's stubborn here. Operator called you out on your lie.

Concession accepted.

Irony on you invoking Raoul's directive.

If you're going to insult, at least come up with something original, rather than relying on a poor variation of mine. Otherwise you end up humiliating yourself even further.
Originally posted by abhilegend


You are desperate, I get it.
hysterical

Originally posted by operator616
Thanks for clearing the air. Context always needs to be brought into clear up these feats.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Remind what relevancy that has w.r.t you with you trying to point out my edit addressing Pr as some sort of hypocritical stance. Oh right, it has none. You making a pointless point, just like always. That wasn't my point of you being hypocritical. Your calling out of me for quote function problem was. Your reading comprehension is as awful as always.

I put him in his place just after that.

Sure thing quan jr.

Because you always invoke mod ruling. Oh wait.....

I wasn't insulting you. Oh you poor lad, always seeing insults where there is none.

Well cheerleading someone is right up your alley. You even brought your pom-poms.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That wasn't my point of you being hypocritical. Your calling out of me for quote function problem was. Your reading comprehension is as awful as always.

I put him in his place just after that.

Sure thing quan jr.

Because you always invoke mod ruling. Oh wait.....

I wasn't insulting you. Oh you poor lad, always seeing insults where there is none.

Well cheerleading someone is right up your alley. You even brought your pom-poms.
Are you sure that you even remember what we're talking about? Last I checked, you were laughing at me making an edit, which then randomly got removed to you claiming that I always ride on others' arguments, which now has been further swapped off onto you claiming that you calling me hypocritical has to do with my perfectly valid criticism of your inability to use the quote function.

Pretty sure most of the forum would disagree on that front.

As if that's an insult. Now being called an abhi on the other hand...

Do point out exactly how many times have I invoked mod rulings in the past. And that's not a mod ruling, cupcake, it's a directive. You can't even differentiate one word from another. English language and I are having a laugh at your expense.

Backing off from your flunked attempt at trying to pick and e-fight. How typically abhi of you.

We're finally making some progress. Now that you have learnt how to develop original insults, let's hope you can create good ones.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Are you sure that you even remember what we're talking about? Last I checked, you were laughing at me making an edit, which then randomly got removed to you claiming that I always ride on others' arguments, which now has been further swapped off onto you claiming that you calling me hypocritical has to do with my perfectly valid criticism of your inability to use the quote function.

Pretty sure most of the forum would disagree on that front.

As if that's an insult. Now being called an abhi on the other hand...

Do point out exactly how many times have I invoked mod rulings in the past. And that's not a mod ruling, cupcake, it's a directive. You can't even differentiate one word from another. English language and I are having a laugh at your expense.

Backing off from your flunked attempt at trying to pick and e-fight. How typically abhi of you.

We're finally making some progress. Now that you have learnt how to develop original insults, let's hope you can create good ones.
Yes, I do. Do you?

Who cares about forum? You fight your own battles which skipped past you.


I could care less about what some internet forum posters thinks and toss out as insults.


You always get in trouble with not following mod rules. You can't even detect sarcasm.

Who's backing off? I didn't insult you though.

Again seeing insults where there is none. Oh poor boy, we'll sort you out too.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, I do. Do you?

Who cares about forum? You fight your own battles which skipped past you.

I could care less about what some internet forum posters thinks and toss out as insults.

You always get in trouble with not following mod rules. You can't even detect sarcasm.

Who's backing off? I didn't insult you though.

Again seeing insults where there is none. Oh poor boy, we'll sort you out too.
Your posts say otherwise.

I bet if there was a poll regarding whether or not operator destroyed you on that subject, operator's side would get the vast majority of the votes.

The insecurity which reeks from the above post of yours says otherwise.

That's hilarious coming from you of all people. Monkeys are reptiles if that is sarcasm.

You are. You did.

It's written as "where there are none". The English language had its laugh, now it just feels effin' sad.

Fine, abhi, that's a warning for you. If you can't be civil like I asked, then your posting options are going to be very limited in future.

.

facepalm

.

^IIRC, abhi is from Delhi and lives in Mumbai, not Punjab.

With that said, I do believe that you'll make it to 13 more posts before getting banned for socking.

.

I wasn't kicked out from those places. Take your point on the loser, though.
Not sure how your mentioning of random places in India helps your case, comrade.

Originally posted by tovarisch
sshhhhh........its ok........if you wish for it hard enough superman will fly to punjab and reward your love Originally posted by tovarisch
whatever mumbai, punjab who gives a shit when this crapdump site is just an asylum for losers kicked out of cbr, cv nd herochat Originally posted by abhilegend
facepalm

Originally posted by operator616
@abhilegend:


Im not sure from where are you getting that i said superman defeated death by punching. I never said that.

When death appeared for the last time, superman thought that he was going to engage in another battle, and said that he can't because he was too tired (seems also to imply that Death had superman at a disadvantage there), yet Death told him that he isn't there to put superman in another battle but came to thank him because he made him aware that death is not the master of all things as well as made him aware of something inside his soul....hope. Here are the consecutive scans for everyone to see:

http://i.imgur.com/SR7Hz7U.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ACVz7sq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Q2XXLri.jpg

so superman did absolutely nothing - nothing at all - to Death, it was completely unharmed (which also makes sense considering that Death is an abstract)

Now you can have your own interpretation that superman punched through death but ultimately it doesn't matter, because we know that Death was seen fine the very next page (and that's my main point)

Still though, you and i both know that for those who just looked at your scans without having read the issue (which would be the majority, since superman where is thy sting, isn't a popular comic) they thought that superman outright oneshot-destroyed Death.

this is amazing. ABHI is literally making people into myth busters.

I busted his myth busting just one post later.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You said superman didn't beat Death by hope either, yet he defeated Death by Death's own admission.



facepalm

Are you trying to suggest that Death conceding superman defeated him after superman punched him means nothing just because Death appeared unharmed?

http://s6.postimg.org/5962ixcz5/stfu.jpg

He punched through it and defeated him per Death's own admission. I can't even believe that an enemy appearing unharmed later means he wasn't defeated. How many comics have you read?

Later appearing fine doesn't means shit. Death conceded superman defeated him after he punched him and broke Death's control. Does everytime when a character gets up from a KO one page later means he wasn't beaten?

Never said that. I said superman defeated him.

He didn't chose to respond further even though he posted a thumbs up half hour later. Can't imagine why.

Originally posted by carver9
this is amazing. ABHI is literally making people into myth busters.

Read the scan, scandaddy. For someone who takes things at face value, Death himself admitted he was defeated in that specific instance.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Read the scan, scandaddy. For someone who takes things at face value, Death himself admitted he was defeated in that specific instance.
Read the whole back and forth on the previous pages and operator's comments regarding the matter. Then come back and apologize to carver.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Read the whole back and forth on the previous pages and operator's comments regarding the matter. Then come back and apologize to carver.

I tried to, there was a lot of chaff amongst the wheat.

But that is why I said, in that specific instance. A page later, he's reformed....but in that specific, one page/panel instance, he was defeated. As said by Death.

Its a bit like the end of WWH, I guess. He reverted to Banner...then one page later, rages back into hulk mode. But for those few panels, all the gamma had been knocked out of him.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I tried to, there was a lot of chaff amongst the wheat.

But that is why I said, in that specific instance. A page later, he's reformed....but in that specific, one page/panel instance, he was defeated. As said by Death.

Its a bit like the end of WWH, I guess. He reverted to Banner...then one page later, rages back into hulk mode. But for those few panels, all the gamma had been knocked out of him.
That's what chafes operator and godkiller. Apparently if a character wakes up after a KO one page later and says he was beaten after his control over another character was totally broken, he wasn't beaten just because he looked fine.

I mean, defeating Death is a silly concept, anyway.

Did Superman defeat A representation of death (like an M body)?

Did he defeat THE Death?

Was it all in his mind?

Who knows, because its a silly thing. Punching death indeed. But, he punched a weird green Old God looking thing, and it was defeated.

And we all need to calm down and chill out.

He defeated THE death as it was revealed by operator himself to be multiversal.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I tried to, there was a lot of chaff amongst the wheat.

But that is why I said, in that specific instance. A page later, he's reformed....but in that specific, one page/panel instance, he was defeated. As said by Death.

Its a bit like the end of WWH, I guess. He reverted to Banner...then one page later, rages back into hulk mode. But for those few panels, all the gamma had been knocked out of him.
IMO, it's faulty to compare an Abstract level being with someone like WWH. One's a metaphysical entity that can reform within one page after getting destroyed, while the other is a physical meatbag.

There is literally nothing to indicate that this entity was defeated by Superman's boxing skills. The dialogue in those panels tells us that it believed itself defeated, but there is no indication at all that the defeat wasn't a metaphorical concession to Superman that he doesn't give up hope even in the face of impossible odds, rather than being a brickhouse-style slugfest/brawl.

Multiversal Death was defeated by Superman, so what. I don't see a problem with this, as Superman is a nexus being and his story the source of the DC Omniverse. He does this stuff regularly, like defeating abstract and Multiversal evil (iow Darkseid). shrug

How is any of this shit on topic?