Wraith Vs DCnU Ultraman

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Golgo13
Both are uber, but there can only be one man standing. Which advanced alien wins?

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carver9
Wraith stomps imo.

Golgo13
Originally posted by carver9
Wraith stomps imo.

thumb up Any particular reason why?

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
thumb up Any particular reason why?

He's stronger than Superman, more durable than Superman, more versatile than Superman. I think Ultraman are those things as well minus the versatility part. This doesn't include Wraith catching Superman punch and then kicking him across some states.

Golgo13
Originally posted by carver9
He's stronger than Superman, more durable than Superman, more versatile than Superman. I think Ultraman are those things as well minus the versatility part. This doesn't include Wraith catching Superman punch and then kicking him across some states.

thumb up There was a time when both Superman and Batman reigned supreme. Have times changed.

carver9
Its temporary. Wraith said that Superman has powers he doesn't even know about. He said that Superman is just testing the scope of his power. With that said, Superman will get more powerful, don't know how much or if it will stay but its bound to happen. I'm just unsure how powerful he is currently. His power level is all over the place. I will post scans soon showing you what I mean. One sec.

Batman-Prime
I will post my opinion after Scandaddy Carver Prime unleashed his scans upon us uhuh

Flyattractor
Only info I could find on Wraith was that of the old Batman Copycat villain. What is the "new wraith"?

Galan007
If you look at what Wraith actually did, I really don't find him as impressive as you guys do. Not yet, at least.

He caught punches from an injured/softened up Superman, and proceeded to punch that same injured/softened up Superman across a few states-- an action that seems impressive at first glance, but it's impressiveness is overshadowed by the fact that Superman tanked that punch without so much as a scratch to show for it:
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Why do I think Supes was injured/softened up at the time? Because he'd just been blasted to Timbuktu by Lane's black hole lasers right before he fought Wraith. Literally, right before:
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...He doesn't look too hot in the last scan.


Ultraman popping Black Adam like a pimple seems more impressive to me. /shrug

Golgo13
Originally posted by Galan007
If you look at what Wraith actually did, I really don't find him as impressive as you guys do. Not yet, at least.

He caught punches from an injured/softened up Superman, and proceeded to punch that same injured/softened up Superman across a few states-- an action that seems impressive at first glance, but it's impressiveness is overshadowed by the fact that Superman tanked that punch without so much as a scratch to show for it:
http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16992104_05.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16992105_06-07.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16992106_08-09.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16992107_10.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16992108_11.jpg


Why do I think Supes was injured/softened up at the time? Because he'd just been blasted to Timbuktu by Lane's black hole lasers right before he fought Wraith. Literally, right before:
http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16992086_18.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16992088_19.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16992090_20.jpg
...He doesn't look too hot in the last scan.


Ultraman popping Black Adam like a pimple seems more impressive to me. /shrug



shifty Looks like Wraith is a teambuster.

Galan007
Never said that Superman is more powerful-- he almost certainly is not. Just saying that you guys are over-hyping the strength/battle feats Wraith currently has.

ares834
Wraith also took a full burst of those red solar radiation bullets while Superman was pretty badly injured by one.

Anyway, based on the limited information we have on both characters, Wraith takes this.

-Pr-
Ultraman imo. I think Wraith is being overrated a tad.

Branlor Swift
Wraith was getting hurt by minigun red solar radiation bullets while a security van door withheld against them...

Which is all sorts of something...

That being said, so far Ultraman should win. But if so many "Creator Insider" people are correct like they pretty much claim to be, then Wraith should win. But as of this moment, Ultraman should win decisively.

ares834
Those bullets also caused Superman to bleed.

Branlor Swift
Which would be impressive if Superman didn't have a red sun weakness.

ares834
Wraith, having the same powers as Superman, would also have the same weakness.

Branlor Swift
Scans

ares834
http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16992174_06-07.jpg

"His cells are like mine, but after decades of exposure."

Beyond that he uses powers similar to Superman or ones that a future Superman will be apparently able to learn.

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by ares834
http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16992174_06-07.jpg

"His cells are like mine, but after decades of exposure."

Beyond that he uses powers similar to Superman or ones that a future Superman will be apparently able to learn. That's quite the extrapolation to confirm he has a red sun weakness.

ares834
Seems to be common sense. According to Superman his cells are like his and Batman says he is powered by the Sun. Everything is pointing to Wraith being pretty much a more solar charged Superman.

Branlor Swift
Mayhaps that will be the case in the future. But as of now making definitive answers about who he is when the next issue reveals his people, and all we know (so far) is that his natural form looks absolutely nothing like a Kryptonian. And if he isn't Kryptonian, then him being powered by the same source doesn't have much relevance.

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If he shares the same weaknesses as Superman, you're going to have to do more than him sharing power sources with Superman. Might as well start claiming sun eaters are weak to kryptonite.

You could be right, and you just might be. But as of now you are wrong.

ares834
Except, he also has the same powers as Superman and, according to Superman himself, similar cells. There is far more to their similarities than that they are merely both charged by the Sun.

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by ares834
Except, he also has the same powers as Superman and, according to Superman himself, similar cells. There is far more to their similarities than that they are merely both charged by the Sun. So far he's shown superspeed, super strength, durability, a glowing phoenix chest, and a sonic blast... and also the ability to look completely and absolutely without a doubt nothing like a kryptonian.

But anyway, you figure similarities in powers net a weakness across the board? So, naturally since you're pretty right, you should be able to come up with a scan stating he's weak to red sun?

leonidas
we also saw that he was able to manipulate his energy signature to duplicate k-nite radiation. just curious now that the arc has come to an end, where people see wraith....?

abhilegend
Originally posted by leonidas
we also saw that he was able to manipulate his energy signature to duplicate k-nite radiation. just curious now that the arc has come to an end, where people see wraith....?
Wraith was far stronger than Superman to the point he was casually breaking his bones. He would stomp Ultraman.

leonidas
kinda what i was thinking as well....

celeyhyga17
Edge to Wraith. Had him winning a bit more, but I like Galan's take on the Supes fight.

Philosophía
Superman's feats stomp Ultraman's. Wraith is more powerful than Superman's base powers, plus more.

It's a no brainer.

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