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Jean Grey
Emma frost
Colossus
Magneto
Juggernaut
Iceman
Rouge

Vs

Thor
Hulk
Iron man
Quick silver
Hercules
Ms. Marvel
Spiderman

Thor/Hulk solos

Or Jean solos depending on versions.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Thor/Hulk solos

Or Jean solos depending on versions. thor and hulk cant solo a team that has juggernaut

Avengers

Originally posted by iscaremonkeys
thor and hulk cant solo a team that has juggernaut why? Either could beat him at this point and most of the x folk can tank the aoe

Im kind of wondering who can actually beat Juggernaut on the Avengers team? Thor or Hulk can fight him for a LONG time, but I think they would be more stalemates than victories, IMO. Also, Team X has 2 major mentalists with Jean and Emma, that unless Quicksilver KOs them in 1 second, they can KO or control most anyone on the Avengers team.

Originally posted by DTM
Im kind of wondering who can actually beat Juggernaut on the Avengers team? Thor or Hulk can fight him for a LONG time, but I think they would be more stalemates than victories, IMO. Also, Team X has 2 major mentalists with Jean and Emma, that unless Quicksilver KOs them in 1 second, they can KO or control most anyone on the Avengers team.

Until Hulk put his hands on them and smack them the **** around.

Hulk, Thor wins that by themselves, and Herc pimps the girls.

Amidst half the x team had been nurtured so though I favor the x team gonna have to go avengers

Almost half the x team had been neutered so though I favor the x team gonna have to go avengers

Avengers have no answer to TP. Xmen ftw

Avengers. Hulk takes out the Telepaths, given he's the resistant (and thoroughly immune, when he's angry).

The rest fall pretty easily, then Hulk takes out Juggernaut.


BTW, what powers does "Rouge" have? Sounds like an interesting character .

yeah yeah, Hulk solos and stuff.
let's ignore that thanos mindraped hhim recently as well as Abyss.

Even if for the shake of the arguement Thor and Hulk resist TP (both with on and off showings) along with Ironman (the only legit immune to TP), it leaves Ironman Thor and Hulk against

Jean Grey
Emma frost
Colossus
Magneto
Juggernaut
Iceman
Rouge
Quick silver
Hercules
Ms. Marvel
Spiderman

Edit

Originally posted by Warlord
yeah yeah, Hulk solos and stuff.
let's ignore that thanos mindraped hhim recently as well as Abyss.

Even if for the shake of the arguement Thor and Hulk resist TP (both with on and off showings) along with Ironman (the only legit immune to TP), it leaves Ironman Thor and Hulk against

Jean Grey
Emma frost
Colossus
Magneto
Juggernaut
Iceman
Rogue
Quick silver

And when did you add these guys
Hercules
Ms. Marvel
Spiderman

I add them due to TP of team 1. they will become allies in an instant

You're the one ignoring context and details but, it's evident that you're a little upset here.

Thanos isn't in this thread but, we know for certain Emma and Charles are useless against Hulk, when his blood is up, so why bring up Thanos? Oh yes, to evade the single pertinent point, that Emma is useless against Hulk .

Once the TPers are gone, there's nothing to worry about and ... in your upset state you've forgotten which character is on which team:

"Thor
Hulk
Iron man
Quick silver
Hercules
Ms. Marvel
Spiderman"

a completely featless abyss managed to mindrape Hulk like was nothing.
And unless somehow Hulk starts this fight completely pissed wich he won't his mindset won't be any difference. now you can argue that abyss > to emma and jean combined but you won't have evidencce to support this.
avengers go down hard since even if some of their team manage to resist TP most of them will turn against their teamates. simple as that.
and just to make things clear, I'm an avengers fanboy and I'd like them to win. but they don't

Originally posted by Warlord
a completely featless abyss managed to mindrape Hulk like was nothing.
And unless somehow Hulk starts this fight completely pissed wich he won't his mindset won't be any difference. now you can argue that abyss > to emma and jean combined but you won't have evidencce to support this.
avengers go down hard since even if some of their team manage to resist TP most of them will turn against their teamates. simple as that.
and just to make things clear, I'm an avengers fanboy and I'd like them to win. but they don't
I believe what you're experiencing is called "butthurt", I'm not familiar with the condition, but the symptoms do include pronounced irrationality, obfuscation, hostility and continued persistent low-balling.

You might want to see some one about your condition .


And also, yeah Emma . No use against Hulk in a fight.

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Originally posted by janus77
And also, yeah Emma . No use against Hulk in a fight.

Originally posted by janus77
I believe what you're experiencing is called "butthurt", I'm not familiar with the condition, but the symptoms do include pronounced irrationality, obfuscation, hostility and continued persistent low-balling.

You might want to see some one about your condition .


And also, yeah Emma . No use against Hulk in a fight.

Ah i see you took into account my arguements and countered them all.
I feel so defeated. Emma is so useless and thank god Jean is not there to help her. also thank god you also countered the arguement that even if Hulk resist the TP he will be fighting alone vs anybody else. then again, in your little Utopia Hulk can solo everyone in this thread combined, so no need to disccuss further am I right?

Wouldn't Quicksilver be able to take out the TP users before they have much of an effect on the battle?

classic quickdraw scenario.
It's possible. I don't know if it's probable.
QS is no flash. If the telepaths act (think) first the fight is over.
and IIRC there are instancces where it's mentioned that telepath minds work faster than normal people

QS is at or nearly at Lightspeed, I can't see any way to make a match up that the Avengers lose. They have the 2 top guys and arguably the third.

how do they deal with TP if QS won't take out the telepaths from the get go?

QS is definitely faster than the telepaths - hell, he was even faster than a Phoenix empowered Emma IIRC. He was moving faster than she could think, and was able to do things so fast, he fooled her.

cool then.
QS saves the day for T2.

Meh, Mags easily shields the telepaths.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
QS is definitely faster than the telepaths - hell, he was even faster than a Phoenix empowered Emma IIRC. He was moving faster than she could think, and was able to do things so fast, he fooled her.

Nope. The issue stated that Pym put Psi-Blockers around the Avengers Academy so that if Phoenix Emma wasn't trying to pick up on him she wouldn't have noticed. Look at it again. "And our defenses prevented her sensing my mind."

Pah. Anything that hack Pym can do, Tony already has a million times over.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Pah. Anything that hack Pym can do, Tony already has a million times over.

Depends on the writer. Tony Stark designed the O.N.E. sentinels and their TP blockers had a weakness which Emma Frost exploited in Deadly Genesis.

Originally posted by janus77
Avengers. Hulk takes out the Telepaths, given he's the resistant (and thoroughly immune, when he's angry).

The rest fall pretty easily, then Hulk takes out Juggernaut.


BTW, what powers does "Rouge" have? Sounds like an interesting character . Rouge has ms. Marvels abilities and if she touches your skin she absorbs your power you still keep your power but know she has it to.

Originally posted by iscaremonkeys
thor and hulk cant solo a team that has juggernaut

What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?

Last time Hulk and Emma fought, it didn't end too well for her. She was next to useless. So this is what happens:

The girls try to mindrape team 2. Then, Hulk begin to thunderclap the **** away team 1. Then, he, Thor and Hercules ragestomp the survivors.

The end.

Emma can't Mind rape fo' shizzle a this moment in time

Originally posted by sacred108
Jean Grey
Emma frost
Colossus
Magneto
Juggernaut
Iceman
Rouge

Vs

Thor
Hulk
Iron man
Quick silver
Hercules
Ms. Marvel
Spiderman juggernaut distracts hulk, rouge beats ms. Marvel and absorbs quick silver's power, Iceman freezes spidey and iron man, then they help juggs with hulk and all that's left is Thor.