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Rank these guys from best to worst based on overall leadership skills

Captain America
Batman
Nightwing
Cyclops
Superman
Storm
Leonardo
Lion-O
Wonder Woman
Aquaman
Black Panther

1.Cap.America

Reed Richards

Captain America (best blend of tactics, charisma, and the ability to inspire other heroes in addition to the populace)
Nightwing (repeatedly stated to be the best leader in the DCU pre-Flashpoint)
Superman/Batman (Superman's the rallying symbol/beacon of hope, Batman is the tactician)
Cyclops (has been leading the second premier superteam in Marvel since he was a kid)

I'm too lazy to sort out the others.

Hm, it can vary. For example, Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman. Superman's the most inspirational leader, Wonder Woman's the best general, best at smoothing out internal conflicts, and does the most day-to-day leadership (playing a big role in leading a country), Batman's the best planner (and often enough, doesn't want to lead), though it should be noted that he has on multiple occasions caused schisms in teams due to being too hard on them or treating team members as tool. Depending on the circumstances, any could be the best in charge. If you have Batman and either other, the other should be in charge while Batman is purely on planning. If you have a complex situation, just give Batman command since all the leader's going to do is carry out what he says. If you need to rally a bunch of people, Superman. A nation, WW. Yadda yadda.


Captain America's the best overall. Nightwing is also quite high, then Cycs.

Then probably Superman and Wonder Woman, Storm, Aquaman, Leonardo and Lion-O.

Lion-O's normally portrayed as a talent, but inexperienced leaders who's picking stuff up, so he's at the bottom. Leo's mostly used to leading his brothers, and is known to get into fights with them while doing so ^^ Even so, he's not bad and is quite good with his team, but he doesn't have broad experience.

I left off Black Panther because, well, I haven't really read many comics where he's leading rather than just being team super-sneaky-super-smart-planner, and with his nation the people have a long history of trusting their monarch so it's different than leading a team of differing personalities.

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Dick Grayson

Funnily enough, superman has led both wonder woman and Batman in battle and several times at that. Remember Panic in The Sky where superman led the fight? Or Asgard fight where Thor appointed Superman his successor as leader and not wonder woman? Or the time he led everyone on earth against martians in New World Order? When he led the villains against Russian Zod? Heck he has inspired a whole planet against Kanjar Ro when he had enslaved them while depowered and getting the shit kicked out of him.

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While AMNESIAC, he inspired and led the hunger dogs against Darkseid which is flat out amazing leadership and inspirational skills.

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This is more like Captain America than Batman or Wonder Woman.

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Superman

Oh snake eyes.

WW led all of Earth in World War 3. Whilst Clark was feeling mopey about himself.

Good thing Batman was there to hold his hand.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
WW led all of Earth in World War 3. Whilst Clark was feeling mopey about himself.

Good thing Batman was there to hold his hand.
That was because of superman too "Superman has saved them countless times, now they are going to save him." And Oracle was leading them through digital telepathy.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
WW led all of Earth in World War 3. Whilst Clark was feeling mopey about himself.

Good thing Batman was there to hold his hand.

So, Superman is a brooder?

Superman is charismatic as heck, if he's there, he's in the lead. However, he doesn't do battleplans or troop movements or such as much as the other two of the trinity. Heck, part of what makes him a good leader is his skill at implementing other's plans (comes from working with Batman). He's good at listening to others, and encouraging them to give their best. You will note how even though I mentioned WW's broader skills, I did not put her higher on the list.



To mention more of Wondy's resume, when the Greek and Indian pantheons went to war with the Titans, they picked Diana to be in charge. She also leads the Amazons into battle a lot, and the Albino Gorilla Knights throughout Gail's run. There was also the time when faced with Ivo's siren androids that prevented any male hero from facing them, she gathered much of the heroine population of the Earth against them.

The Trinity is full of high-tier leaders, is what I'm saying. Even Batman, what holds him back is more his flaws, when he can manage to put them aside he's pretty great.

Cyclops
Captain America
Nightwing
Reed Richards
Aquaman
Black Panther

He-Man
Superman
Hank Pym
Storm
Lion-O
Tony Stark
Batman
Leonardo
Wonder Woman

Carol Danvers

Originally posted by Q99
Superman is charismatic as heck, if he's there, he's in the lead. However, he doesn't do battleplans or troop movements or such as much as the other two of the trinity. Heck, part of what makes him a good leader is his skill at implementing other's plans (comes from working with Batman). He's good at listening to others, and encouraging them to give their best. You will note how even though I mentioned WW's broader skills, I did not put her higher on the list.



To mention more of Wondy's resume, when the Greek and Indian pantheons went to war with the Titans, they picked Diana to be in charge. She also leads the Amazons into battle a lot, and the Albino Gorilla Knights throughout Gail's run. There was also the time when faced with Ivo's siren androids that prevented any male hero from facing them, she gathered much of the heroine population of the Earth against them.

The Trinity is full of high-tier leaders, is what I'm saying. Even Batman, what holds him back is more his flaws, when he can manage to put them aside he's pretty great.
Direct comparison says otherwise, it was superman who led the armies of Asgard for a thousand years. Having wonder woman at his side.


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....? Did you not read what I said? Because nothing you said contradicts anything that I said, namely that they're both high-tier leaders, and Superman's inspiration and skill at using others makes him a logical choice for a leader when they're together.

Originally posted by Q99
....? Did you not read what I said? Because nothing you said contradicts anything that I said, namely that they're both high-tier leaders, and Superman's inspiration and skill at using others makes him a logical choice for a leader when they're together.
And that's why he's a better leader than her. You're trying to insinuate she's a better general than he is but that's not true at all.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And that's why he's a better leader than her. You're trying to insinuate she's a better general than he is but that's not true at all.

What the **** is wrong with you when it comes to WW? I swear to God, you lowballed her just to make Superman look superior for your sake.

Do you have a thing against chicks being bad asses?

Q99 explained it the best. Superman is inspirational, he tells you to jump, you don't question it, you just to do. Why? He's ****ing Superman that's why.

Where as Diana is the strategist or the planner. She makes the plan, and you better believe they'll succeed.

Meh.

Superman is a king.

WW is a general.

Batman is a sergeant.

Originally posted by SquallX
What the **** is wrong with you when it comes to WW? I swear to God, you lowballed her just to make Superman look superior for your sake.

Do you have a thing against chicks being bad asses?

Q99 explained it the best. Superman is inspirational, he tells you to jump, you don't question it, you just to do. Why? He's ****ing Superman that's why.

Where as Diana is the strategist or the planner. She makes the plan, and you better believe they'll succeed.
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Superman does that better than her. He is a genius on the level of some of the greatest minds on earth. This alone is better than all her plans and strategies.



I'll wait for her plans which outsmart the greatest strategic mind who ever existed aka Brainiac 13. He did it again in Action Comics 782 where he outsmarted both Imperiex and Brainiac 13. Again.

Give me a single one of her battle strategic plan and I would give you several better plans and strategies by Superman. He has led earth's heroes against Brainiac in Panic in The Sky, led villains against russian Zod and led Asgard for a thousand years. What plans and strategies Wonder Woman has made and executed?

Is your brain, like, broken or something?




Diana does have the blessing of Athena's wisdom, goddess of intelligence and warfare, to be good at these things y'know.

And when Superman outplans someone like B13, it tends to be by coming up with something laterally, catching them off guard with an unconventional approach that he personally does. Different from commanding an army's forces or the like, Diana's very good at conventional command.


They have different skills and are better in different areas. Diana, diplomate, strategist, general. Superman, drawing out the best in people, and good at using people good at their tasks (following Batman's plans and etc. etc.). Though, even in the other's areas they're each pretty darn good.

It's sorta the whole Trinity thing, they complement each other and Batman very well, because they approach things in different effective ways, and when you have all three together every base is covered.




There was when she organized the defense of Themyscira and fought off Apokolips. Or the time when he prevented Cronus from stealing the godwave after he'd already defeated multiple pantheons. Or the time she and a small unit of enhanced gorillas fought off an army all empowered by Captain Nazi's formula. Or when she lead an uprising against the Sangtree space empire.

overall leadership?

cyclops has been a leader damn near his entire life, but look at where he's led his people recently, he's stubborn and it hasn't worked out well for him. the same could be said of captain america, he's probably the most respected hero in marvel but he's incredibly stubborn and does not consider making the more difficult choices, he's incredibly inspirational, and that's half the battle when you're leading the most powerful people on the planet. i can't put black panther at the top just because he's not nearly as trusted by a lot of heroes. batman has to go at the top here.

Originally posted by Q99
Is your brain, like, broken or something? Hahaha, what? You're accusing me of broken brain?

crylaugh

Hey Q, did you find those scans of martians knocking out JLAers yet?




So does Captain Marvel with all wisdom of solomon and shit and he's a doofus at best.

It means he can outsmart by thinking strategically. Being unconventional doesn't mean shit, thinking out of the box is the first step to being a comic book genius strategist. Anybody can lead an army in comics, Lois Lane has commanded soldiers before.


No, not at all. She has never used any of that better than superman. I'd like to see some comparisons between superman and wonder woman in diplomacy and strategy. Superman has already proved to be a better general in Action Comics 761. You're literally blind if you think all he does is Batman's plan. She follows Batman's plans in JLA too BTW. She has never made any strategies when he's around. Its either Batman or J'onn.

Except she is redundant in Trinity. Superman and Batman cover up all the bases among themselves. That's why they are "World's finest".




What did she do exactly to drive him off exactly? By destroying his sickle. Brilliant strategy BTW.

Hahaha, what? That's called an ass whopping of lesser opponents. When was this?