The Midnighter VS Thor: H2H

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LordofBrooklyn
The Midnighter- Strength of Thor

VS

Thor

Hand To Hand

The Midnighter or The Mighty?

StiltmanFTW
Midnighter makes him do some hot dogs for him and Apollo.

Epicurus
Midnighter wins.

abhilegend
Midnighter rips thor's spine out.

NemeBro
So he has the strength of Thor but not the durability?

Thor punches his head off. thumb up

Golgo13
Thor reduces him to ashes. Flawless victory.

h1a8
Having the strength of Thor automatically gives herald level durability. So midnighter still wins.

Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
Having the strength of Thor automatically gives herald level durability. So midnighter still wins.


You're not the thread starter.

SamZED
Thor. no expression

bbrem123
thor

the Darkone
Thor, has greater skill and more fighting experience that sh** all over Midnighter

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor, has greater skill and more fighting experience that sh** all over Midnighter

Means nothing if Midnighter knows his every move. More so if we're taking the 'working backwards from victory' Midnighter.

Midnighter wins.

NemeBro
I am sorry, but without the durability that comes with Thor's strength, the moment he tries to use his strength all of Midnighter's brittle bones will shatter from the force.

h1a8
Originally posted by Silent Master
You're not the thread starter. correct, you are smart as hell.

Again with strength comes minimal durability

NemeBro
Originally posted by h1a8
correct, you are smart as hell.

Again with strength comes minimal durability Then why didn't the OP state as much?

Stop trying to change the thread to suit your own twisted purposes.

Blue Area Vet
Thor slaps fire out of his ass, fight over.

abhilegend
Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor, has greater skill and more fighting experience that sh** all over Midnighter

laughing out loud

Thor is more skilled than midnighter?

leonidas
Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor, has greater skill and more fighting experience that sh** all over Midnighter

confused

thor wouldn't have much chance in this.....

Iskandar
So, what if the Midnighter has the strength? That won't matter much if he is still not as fast as Thor.

All the skill in the world does not matter if your opponent is much faster. Unless you're Karate Kid. In which case skill = superpowers.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Iskandar
So, what if the Midnighter has the strength? That won't matter much if he is still not as fast as Thor.

All the skill in the world does not matter if your opponent is much faster. Unless you're Karate Kid. In which case skill = superpowers.
Thor isn't a speedster. He doesn't uses any kind of superspeed in combat to begin with.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor isn't a speedster. He doesn't uses any kind of superspeed in combat to begin with.

He doesn't?

abhilegend
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
He doesn't?
Nope.

uhuh

StiltmanFTW
Flash has the Speedforce, Thor has the Power Slowness.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by SamZED
Thor. no expression

laughing out loud

http://i43.tinypic.com/2a4uv85.gif

SquallX
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
laughing out loud

http://i43.tinypic.com/2a4uv85.gif

eek!

Wish i knew what he was saying though.

StiltmanFTW
Me, too.

abhilegend
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Flash has the Speedforce, Thor has the Power Slowness.
He is almost as fast as aunt may. Almost.

thumb up

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by abhilegend
He is almost as fast as aunt may. Almost.

thumb up

You're giving him too much credit, even Rage wouldn't go that far.

abhilegend
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You're giving him too much credit, even Rage wouldn't go that far.
My bad. He is almost as fast as stilt-man.

vin

Estacado
Thor takes this fight.....
















To the dance floor.....uhuh

Iskandar
Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor isn't a speedster. He doesn't uses any kind of superspeed in combat to begin with.

So wait, how does he tag the Silver Surfer and other shit then?

Or, for that point, dodge or even catch his own hammer?

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor isn't a speedster.
Umm yes.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He doesn't uses any kind of superspeed in combat to begin with.
Umm no.

jaxthejester
Thor disagrees with the notion that he lacks Super Speed.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorSuperspeed10MarvelTeam-Up26.jpg

jaxthejester
The following is brought to you by the folks at the "Friends of Asgard" Foundation.

Changing opinions one Scan at a time.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorSuperspeed20InfinityWatch23.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorSuperspeed06JIM125.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorSuperspeed02JIM93.jpghttp://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorSuperspeed18428.jpg

...Thor thanks you for your time.

the Darkone
Thor was moving so fast Hela Death God couldn't track him, she stated " His speed is beyond comprehension"

jaxthejester
Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor was moving so fast Hela Death God couldn't track him, she stated " His speed is beyond comprehension"

thumb up

KingD19
Has Thor's heightened combat/reflex speed been touched upon or noted lately? Like in the past few years?

abhilegend
Originally posted by Iskandar
So wait, how does he tag the Silver Surfer and other shit then?

Or, for that point, dodge or even catch his own hammer?
Surfer never utilizes superspeed in combat too. Post a single fight with Thor which shows either of them using superspeed. Not that surfer himself is some kind of uber speedster. He travels fast like green lanterns but his combat speed sucks hard.Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Umm yes.

Umm no.
Your "umm no, umm yes" is as much worth as carver's opinion. Thor isn't a speedster, show me a single scan of a true speedster comparing his speed to Thor's.Originally posted by jaxthejester
Thor disagrees with the notion that he lacks Super Speed.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorSuperspeed10MarvelTeam-Up26.jpg Originally posted by jaxthejester
The following is brought to you by the folks at the "Friends of Asgard" Foundation.

Changing opinions one Scan at a time.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorSuperspeed20InfinityWatch23.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorSuperspeed06JIM125.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorSuperspeed02JIM93.jpghttp://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorSuperspeed18428.jpg

...Thor thanks you for your time.
Some random scan of blurs is now superspeed? Especially from silver age? You will have more success in proving Thor has super breath than having superspeed by that era.

eaebiakuya
If midnight has only strengh he loses. Thor is far faster in reflexes( tagged FTL people) and much more durable.

But, I guess the OP wanted the fight to be both with equal stats. In that case, Thor loses.

deathslash
Originally posted by KingD19
Has Thor's heightened combat/reflex speed been touched upon or noted lately? Like in the past few years? Nope. His more recent feats include using his insane strength, durability, energy projection, and getting punched in the face a lot of times. However, you might find a feat here or there of him using his heightened speed.

jaxthejester
He doesn't use it often. But in Marvel- you don't really need to.

Still, he does have it. The scans aren't just him moving at a blur.
They state directly that he is moving "faster than the eye can follow."

That IS super speed.

Not light speed... but Super Speed none the less.

abhilegend
Originally posted by jaxthejester
He doesn't use it often. But in Marvel- you don't really need to.

Still, he does have it. The scans aren't just him moving at a blur.
They state directly that he is moving "faster than the eye can follow."

That IS super speed.

Not light speed... but Super Speed none the less.
Its nothing people like Batman or Wolverine or Captain America haven't done. In fact Wolverine and Sabretooth fought so fast that Psylocke couldn't even see them while they danced around her. That's way better than Thor's random showing once per decade where he moves his arm faster than eye can see. Recall how Mongoose danced circles around Thor and earlier in the same issue Spidey danced circles around Mongoose himself? Spidey speedblitzing masterson Thor? Thor saying wolverine is faster than himself? Daredevil dancing circles around Thor? Cobra dancing circles around Thor? There are A LOT more showing where Thor doesn't shows any kind of speed than where he shows speed. Like 99% of his fights.

jaxthejester
http://www.comicvine.com/thor/4005-2268/forums/does-thor-have-super-speed-571419/

Read.

And educate thyself.

Wei Phoenix
What about his fight with Gorr? Weren't they fighting at FTL speeds from what I heard?

Uriel005
Originally posted by jaxthejester
http://www.comicvine.com/thor/4005-2268/forums/does-thor-have-super-speed-571419/

Read.

And educate thyself. which he still uses less frequently than superman will use a speed blitz but for some reason blitzing is generally considered less than viable for Superman....

abhilegend
Originally posted by jaxthejester
http://www.comicvine.com/thor/4005-2268/forums/does-thor-have-super-speed-571419/

Read.

And educate thyself.
I have done much more. I've actually read the comics which feature Thor and not this random copy/paste from ODG's hilarious attempt at using cropped up scans to say he's a speedster. Compare this

http://i.imgur.com/zEQQXFm.jpg

To this.

http://i.imgur.com/DycDCqt.jpg

Or the ease with which Daredevil dances around Thor.

http://i.imgur.com/TTlbgdC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1XQHnXI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yXqRqro.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VLCZqHh.jpg

And decide just what kind of speed Thor has. This is not an isolated instant either.

Daredevil1
This is spite.

Thor is way to strong and way to durable for Mids. Thor wins easily at times. Mid's might be able to delay it for a while but he is pretty much screwed in this type of fight.

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by Daredevil1
This is spite.

Thor is way to strong and way to durable for Mids. Thor wins easily at times. Mid's might be able to delay it for a while but he is pretty much screwed in this type of fight.


This is far from spite.

The combination of The Midnighter's fighting ESP, skill, speed and now Thor level strength make him a viable threat.

Daredevil1
Didn't see that Mids has the strength of Thor.

Never mind LOL. Most A-lists will dethrone him in just H2H with Thor level strength.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
I have done much more. I've actually read the comics which feature Thor and not this random copy/paste from ODG's hilarious attempt at using cropped up scans to say he's a speedster. Compare this

http://i.imgur.com/zEQQXFm.jpg

To this.

http://i.imgur.com/DycDCqt.jpg

Or the ease with which Daredevil dances around Thor.

http://i.imgur.com/TTlbgdC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1XQHnXI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yXqRqro.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VLCZqHh.jpg

And decide just what kind of speed Thor has. This is not an isolated instant either.
Lol at these sorry attempts.

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Lol at these sorry attempts.
You mean better scans than "look here Thor going faster than eye can see LOL."

h1a8
With Thor's strength midnighter easily wins. This is not a good thread IMO.

quanchi112
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Lol at these sorry attempts. thumb up

eaebiakuya
I think you dont read his fight against Gorr, where he showed FTL speed during the fight.

h1a8
Originally posted by eaebiakuya
I think you dont read his fight against Gorr, where he showed FTL speed during the fight. he only traveled at Ftl speeds over light year distances. And that was Mjolnirs doing, not Thor's .

eaebiakuya
Originally posted by h1a8
he only traveled at Ftl speeds over light year distances. And that was Mjolnirs doing, not Thor's .

I think you missed some important parts of the fight:

1 - Gorr tagging Thor and King Thor (when both was flying with a FTL +++++ speed). This shows Gorr has FTL +++ speed in reflexes at least (able to see, perceive and throw a giant rock in people who travel FTL+++++).

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/eaebiakuya/Thor_-_God_of_Thunder_009-007_zps5c897d00.jpg

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/eaebiakuya/4_zpsfa1e1b94.jpg

Since Thor fighted H2H with him multiple times (and even got some speed advantage sometimes) we can say he must have reflexes on pair with him.


2 - In the end of the fight, they were in a planet, and started to Hit Gorr until they finished in a Sun. They traveled far faster than light while punching him multiple times.


http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/eaebiakuya/13_zps71611365.jpg

http://s1271.photobucket.com/user/eaebiakuya/media/14_zps47c35b79.jpg.html?sort=3&o=8

h1a8
Originally posted by eaebiakuya
I think you missed some important parts of the fight:

1 - Gorr tagging Thor and King Thor (when both was flying with a FTL +++++ speed). This shows Gorr has FTL +++ speed in reflexes at least (able to see, perceive and throw a giant rock in people who travel FTL+++++).

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/eaebiakuya/Thor_-_God_of_Thunder_009-007_zps5c897d00.jpg

http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/eaebiakuya/4_zpsfa1e1b94.jpg

Since Thor fighted H2H with him multiple times (and even got some speed advantage sometimes) we can say he must have reflexes on pair with him.


2 - In the end of the fight, they were in a planet, and started to Hit Gorr until they finished in a Sun. They traveled far faster than light while punching him multiple times.



http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/eaebiakuya/13_zps71611365.jpg

http://s1271.photobucket.com/user/eaebiakuya/media/14_zps47c35b79.jpg.html?sort=3&o=8

1. I argue that the Thor's slowed down to speeds under light speed far before Gorr threw those chunks. This is reasonable under the suspension of disbelief since one has to first slow down when getting close to their destination. In the next panel you see that they are very close to the moon.

2. Feats aren't shared and thus abc logic doesn't work here. Characters many times don't use their abilities as shown before. Humans have tagged and dodged beings who have shown Ftl speed and reflexes. Slow powerful beings have engaged and done well against speedsters many times. Just because a being is capable of superspeed doesn't mean they are always operating with it. Otherwise Thor wouldn't get out speed by wolverine, mongoose, etc and Surfer wouldn't get punched in the face by super slow beings.

eaebiakuya
Thor slowed down? If he has the capacity for that, then he must have reflexes to perceive a FTL +++++ travel, dont ? Its not like a car of a ship who need time to slow down. Mjolnir go to FTL++++ to zero in a instant.

And there is no evidence that they slowed down. Mjolnir alredy showed that he can go to Zero to FTL in seconds if not less.

I agree that some characthers not always use superspeed, but this is a feat from the same issue. If he showed FTL speed in one page, why he wont would be using that in the next page...?

And what about they hitting Gorr while going to the sun ?

NemeBro
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
What about his fight with Gorr? Weren't they fighting at FTL speeds from what I heard? Yep. thumb up

Even young!Thor was keeping up.

Also, he's moved faster than a Skyfather like Surtur could in combat.

DarkSaint85
Does it matter about Thor's speed, though?

The battle computer is good enough for Mids to come up with solutions whilst simultaneously fighting millions of aliens or some crap like that. Yes, absolute high end Thor has damn good speed feats - but they're few and far between.

psycho gundam
lightning

DarkSaint85
It's a H2H fight.

abhilegend
laughing out loud

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's a H2H fight.

I don't think he means lightning to hit his opponent, I think he's mentioning lightning as a common speed feat for Thor. I'm pretty sure he's faster than the force he summons to smite his enemies.

DarkSaint85
Like Storm?

eaebiakuya
Well, Thor has a feat of tagging a lighting:

http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/6253/331156-astonishing_thor_super.jpg

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Well, Thor has a feat of tagging a lighting:

http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/6253/331156-astonishing_thor_super.jpg

Or is he attracting the lightning to it?

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