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What do you think?

Odin. No contest, imo.

What are Stranger's best feats?

Creating a planet in 'Beyond' is the best feat I've seen from him.

^ he created Ego and alter Ego (Galaxy-level being at the very least)

that's not to say stranger>galactic levels of power though, just to be clear. he's had MANY lesser showings to mix in with a couple of high ones. i'd give this to odin for a very solid majority.

Originally posted by operator616
^ he created Ego and alter Ego (Galaxy-level being at the very least) True, I almost forgot that Stranger was even in Astonishing Thor lol. Although he did require certain tech and formulae from the Collector in order to create Ego/Alter-Ego:
http://imgur.com/4RKitjp
http://imgur.com/X1MjmPv

Why galaxy-level?

Originally posted by leonidas
that's not to say stranger>galactic levels of power though, just to be clear. he's had MANY lesser showings to mix in with a couple of high ones. i'd give this to odin for a very solid majority. *cough*X-Men Forever*cough*

^ Yes, though it's definitely implied that he did the majority of the work (and is superior to them), especially here in the 3rd consecutive page:

http://i.imgur.com/ixJHwCe.jpg

That would be because of Ego's battle with Galactus, for one. in thor #132/133 (i posted those before):

http://i.imgur.com/AOD1cpJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gWJJ0ZU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fBZx1Dz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7W9vul7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FaOIfP8.jpg

His bio mentions that his psionic abilities rivals that of Galactus, at their peak:

http://i.imgur.com/4v5xvWq.jpg?1

Thor The Legend, lists him with the Galactic/universal threats:

http://i.imgur.com/r2u27yC.jpg

Though i understand he has an amount of low showings.

And same thing applies to the Stranger, X-Men Forever isn't the only one, as im sure you know.

Originally posted by leonidas
that's not to say stranger>galactic levels of power though, just to be clear. he's had MANY lesser showings to mix in with a couple of high ones. i'd give this to odin for a very solid majority.

Yeah, never said that he'd win, just pointing out his feats. Though it was definitely implied that he's superior to them.

Odin Force Wrecks Him Again, this thread has been done before, Odin won there as well.

Stranger stalemated Pluto in his own realm, and feigned defeat because he realized the battle would have lasted way too long as Pluto was steadily being supplied with power.

Which indicates he is below Zeus. And thus below Odin.

Originally posted by operator616
^ Yes, though it's definitely implied that he did the majority of the work (and is superior to them), especially here in the 3rd consecutive page:

http://i.imgur.com/ixJHwCe.jpgIt implies that Stranger created Ego/Alter-Ego and imbued them both his own personality... Which we knew.

He still needed Collector's resources to create them, though.

Originally posted by operator616
That would be because of Ego's battle with Galactus, for one. in thor #132/133 (i posted those before):

http://i.imgur.com/AOD1cpJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gWJJ0ZU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fBZx1Dz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7W9vul7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FaOIfP8.jpg

His bio mentions that his psionic abilities rivals that of Galactus, at their peak:

http://i.imgur.com/4v5xvWq.jpg?1

Thor The Legend, lists him with the Galactic/universal threats:

http://i.imgur.com/r2u27yC.jpg

Though i understand he has an amount of low showings.

And same thing applies to the Stranger, X-Men Forever isn't the only one, as im sure you know. I see where you're coming from, but I personally wouldn't rank Stranger among the confirmed galactic-level beings simply because of a few high-end feats and bios from one of his creations. /shrug

Originally posted by operator616

Yeah, never said that he'd win, just pointing out his feats. Though it was definitely implied that he's superior to them.

fair enuff. i think ego has some pretty inconsistent feats as well and the stranger retcon doesn't really make sense in some ways and caused a little inconsistency with his character both in regards to what he once told thor and in the fact that he was considered (iirc) to be one of the elders of the universe which would actually make him OLDER than the stranger. in any event, i def wouldn't put stranger above ego. same level? maybe, but if i were forced to choose, i'd take ego in a straight up battle (barring any plot device because stranger was his maker....)

Odin, convincingly.

Odin wins. The Stranger was said to be a mini Beyonder.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Stranger stalemated Pluto in his own realm, and feigned defeat because he realized the battle would have lasted way too long as Pluto was steadily being supplied with power.

Which indicates he is below Zeus. And thus below Odin.

Yeah, apart from that, The Stranger got owned by juggernaut with a punch, and wasn't doing that well against the rest of the team in X-Men Forever (v1), same thing against a weakened silver surfer in his 1st series, not too well against overmind in Quasar, etc.... he has many low showings.

He's meant to shine when he gathers with the other members of the cosmic hierarchy, though.

The Juggernaut punch was explained.
Stranger fights what he can beat.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
The Juggernaut punch was explained.

I quickly rechecked the relevant issue (X-Men Forever #6), and i found nothing where the punch was "explained" (Whatever that means).

Was it explained how Iceman was able to negate(via freezing) Stranger's attacks? vin

X-men forever is an alternate reality, isn't it?

They explained the Juggernaut punch as the human level possessed by a body in the Stranger. Even TOAA can be touched on that level.

Odin's spear that took out the Young Avenger Vision might make this a quick fight in the distance Odin has to cross to win it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
X-men forever is an alternate reality, isn't it? I know the second volume of X-Men Forever was supposed to occur in universe 161, but I don't think the first volume(where a few of Stranger's embarrassments occurred) was supposed to be an alternate reality. Could be wrong; I'm certainly not an X-Men buff.

The Stranger is pretty hard to place.
He can be seen with the abstracts and cosmics vs the IG and HOTU but can also be seen getting knocked around by Thing and Savage Hulk.

I suppose Odin wins but I'll venture to say it won't be a walk in the park.

Originally posted by Sundipped
The Stranger is pretty hard to place.
He can be seen with the abstracts and cosmics vs the IG and HOTU but can also be seen getting knocked around by Thing and Savage Hulk.

I suppose Odin wins but I'll venture to say it won't be a walk in the park.
You know what I found hilarious looking back?

Remember the IG saga? The Stranger was right up in the mix with Galactus and Eon going toe to toe with Thanos with the IG, Odin and the rest of the Skyfathers were stuck in Asgard unable to do anything but watch.

^ Actually, Odin was possessed by Loki the entire time. It wasn't until issue 455 Odin regained control:

http://i.imgur.com/xV6ogch.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7x8A8I5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tN00xHi.jpg

While it was initially (a month i think) even before the IG started.

It's revealed in issue 454 that Loki possessed Odin and ordered Thor's banishment back in issue 432 (which is before the IG arc began):

http://i.imgur.com/yztx9Yv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/J5DqJeo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Jv4Ny74.jpg

.....up until #455 (after the IG)

Originally posted by abhilegend
X-men forever is an alternate reality, isn't it?

Time Travel story invloving 616 characters.

Originally posted by zopzop
You know what I found hilarious looking back?

Remember the IG saga? The Stranger was right up in the mix with Galactus and Eon going toe to toe with Thanos with the IG, Odin and the rest of the Skyfathers were stuck in Asgard unable to do anything but watch.

Leave it to the big boys.
That was a lot of power there.

http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b571/superior100/1b0c0495-32a3-4c8e-8649-f1634ca3541c_zpsa5875941.jpg

Originally posted by operator616
^ Actually, Odin was possessed by Loki the entire time. It wasn't until issue 455 Odin regained control:

http://i.imgur.com/xV6ogch.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7x8A8I5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tN00xHi.jpg

While it was initially (a month i think) even before the IG started.

It's revealed in issue 454 that Loki possessed Odin and ordered Thor's banishment back in issue 432 (which is before the IG arc began):

http://i.imgur.com/yztx9Yv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/J5DqJeo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Jv4Ny74.jpg

.....up until #455 (after the IG)



Time Travel story invloving 616 characters.
It was just Loki's soul inside Odin's body, wasn't it? He wasn't depowered or anything.

Originally posted by Sundipped
The Stranger is pretty hard to place.
He can be seen with the abstracts and cosmics vs the IG and HOTU but can also be seen getting knocked around by Thing and Savage Hulk.

Exactly. I can never make up my mind about the guy for that reason. The character is really inconsistent. At some point there was even that fake Stranger Jakar with the black hair running around.

Originally posted by abhilegend

It was just Loki's soul inside Odin's body, wasn't it? He wasn't depowered or anything.
.. If I recall.

SunD and Zop, I'm in yur ave, properly written Stranger should defeat Odin imo.
Stranger has been portrayed as something greater, but like you pointed out SunD,
these showings do fluctuate. Yet, we are using the best they have to offer no?

Imo, Stranger wins. (sans low, even ridiculous depictions, or rather ... pis?)
meh ... probably not, it could be Stranger sometimes gets caught in the CIS net,
which happens to certain uber-type cats like a Merlin/Roma or even big G.