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First - The bible is not a book of facts. The bible is a book of stories.
Second - Jesus was not a god until the Council of Nicaea (325 CE).
Lastly - Jesus didn't do anything in the OT, and nether did God.

The Old Testament God and New Testament God are the same God. Although there were times when God destroyed nations in the OT, he only did so because of man's wickedness. If God had not destroyed them, the world would be even worse off than it is now. Besides, God was merciful- He saved Noah. Life and grace are God's gifts to us, not something we could ever deserve. Forgiveness is more prominent in the NT because Jesus' death makes salvation/forgiveness truly possible and permanent.
Most importantly, the "OT God" was the very God who sent Jesus, His only Son, to us- the ultimate act of mercy.

Originally posted by m317
The Old Testament God and New Testament God are the same God. Although there were times when God destroyed nations in the OT, he only did so because of man's wickedness. If God had not destroyed them, the world would be even worse off than it is now. Besides, God was merciful- He saved Noah. Life and grace are God's gifts to us, not something we could ever deserve. Forgiveness is more prominent in the NT because Jesus' death makes salvation/forgiveness truly possible and permanent.
Most importantly, the "OT God" was the very God who sent Jesus, His only Son, to us- the ultimate act of mercy.

So, an all powerful God could not think of a more creative way to fix his creation?

I still don't understand why an all-powerful God has to sacrifice millions of people, and later sacrifice his own self-proclaimed son, to save us all from evil he created.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
I still don't understand why an all-powerful God has to sacrifice millions of people, and later sacrifice his own self-proclaimed son, to save us all from evil he created.

It just doesn't make sense when you stop to think. That is why thinking is not allowed.

He said he didn't like what they became and straight up destroyed them for there heresy.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
... Jesus was not a god until the Council of Nicaea (325 CE).






What was he before then?

Originally posted by m317
The Old Testament God and New Testament God are the same God. Although there were times when God destroyed nations in the OT, he only did so because of man's wickedness. If God had not destroyed them, the world would be even worse off than it is now. Besides, God was merciful- He saved Noah. Life and grace are God's gifts to us, not something we could ever deserve. Forgiveness is more prominent in the NT because Jesus' death makes salvation/forgiveness truly possible and permanent.
Most importantly, the "OT God" was the very God who sent Jesus, His only Son, to us- the ultimate act of mercy.

Right on the money

Originally posted by bluewaterrider


What was he before then?

A teacher. A human, or as in my religion, a Bodhisattva.

Jesus is Gods advocate for humanity. Better to know him and believe in him then to not know him at all.

God Almighty is fearless

Originally posted by Supra
Jesus is Gods advocate for humanity. Better to know him and believe in him then to not know him at all.

God Almighty is fearless

So, you advocate fear over truth?

God the Almighty is Fearless.

Imagine him as a parent. You see your children, Soddom adn Gamorrah, doing bad things. So what does a good all-powerful parent do? He burns them alive and starts over instead of trying to reason with his children and show them love and mercy.

Makes perfect sense.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
I still don't understand why an all-powerful God has to sacrifice millions of people, and later sacrifice his own self-proclaimed son, to save us all from evil he created.

God did not create evil. What God created was good; it was what the men of Noah's time were doing (of their own free will) that was evil.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So, you advocate fear over truth?

I advocate anything God wants to do. I dont' question it, I answer it.

Besides, God did everything to reason with the people of Sodom and Gommorah, and if five of them would have been righteous, He wouldn't have destroyed it. (Genesis 18) The one righteous man (and his family), Lot, was spared.

Originally posted by Supra
I advocate anything AllahGod wants to do. I dont' question it, I answer it.

^ You sure about that? That kind of reasoning sounds like the ones used by people who kill infidels.

Originally posted by m317
God did not create evil. What God created was good; it was what the men of Noah's time were doing (of their own free will) that was evil.

According to Genesis, everything comes from God. This includes evil. For nothing existed before he brought it forth into being. Or is that all not true?

Originally posted by m317
Besides, God did everything to reason with the people of Sodom and Gommorah, and if five of them would have been righteous, He wouldn't have destroyed it. (Genesis 18) The one righteous man (and his family), Lot, was spared.

Good post!

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
^ You sure about that? That kind of reasoning sounds like the ones used by people who kill infidels.



According to Genesis, everything comes from God. This includes evil. For nothing existed before he brought it forth into being. Or is that all not true?

Sure about what?

I thought it was obvious, but it looks like I'm wrong for once.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
I thought it was obvious, but it looks like I'm wrong for once.

Back to that again, not gonna work this time.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
I thought it was obvious, but it looks like I'm wrong for once.

Noooo! It can't be! blowup

Mass Genocide will come again.

Originally posted by Supra
Mass Genocide will come again.

Everyone will die. Every person on the Earth right now will be dead within 120 years. Do you know how fast 120 years gets here?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Everyone will die. Every person on the Earth right now will be dead within 120 years. Do you know how fast 120 years gets here?

If you're wrong, and I'm here 130 years from now, but you're not, do I get a prize?

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
If you're wrong, and I'm here 130 years from now, but you're not, do I get a prize?

Yes. However, it will be up to future generations to determine what the prize is.

Well, if you believe that the only way to heaven is to believe specific things about Jesus, then yes, there's going to be more than a genocide...

Originally posted by Supra
Mass Genocide will come again.

Why is this a good thing?

"I believe Jesus/God/Holy Trifecta of Uberness should mass kill people who don't believe and do things I find morally uncomfortable"

Coupled with your earlier:

"God saved me from death, so I swears he is the bee's knees forever. Because God is love and life is precious and kittens make good sweaters".

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-98fGyD9favY/T2EAg4cWVcI/AAAAAAAABPA/aNEHns2DDkM/s1600/jesus_militant.jpg

I look forward to this whole place being burned down, its a mess and needs to be corrected. Mass extinction is the only way to fix it.

Planet Reset.

Originally posted by Supra
I look forward to this whole place being burned down, its a mess and needs to be corrected. Mass extinction is the only way to fix it.

Planet Reset.

You need to get off the computer. Go for long walks in the forest. Go to the beach.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You need to get off the computer. Go for long walks in the forest. Go to the beach. Rather he should go for long walks on a short beach.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Rather he should go for long walks on a short beach.

I wouldn't want to be responsible.