Karate Kid vs Wildcat

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tkitna
12 rounds of boxing. Who takes this. Just curious.

DarkSaint85
KK.

Jmanghan
Wildcat stomps, took on Batman to a draw.

namorsubby
KK tends to display insanely superhuman physical abilities in certain incarnations beyond the extent of Grant so....

Bentley
KK boosts himself using super karate, and only boxing is allowed here.

Stop hating on Wildcat people.

tkitna
Originally posted by namorsubby
KK tends to display insanely superhuman physical abilities in certain incarnations beyond the extent of Grant so....

But,,,but,,,you said Wildcat was the best boxer in DC by a large margin. Captain America also has insanely superhuman abilities.

Just trying to get a grasp on this whole thing.

Blair Wind
Karate Kid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Captain America.

KK is basically the Superman of his type (Martial Artists) to the point that he can fight against Superman level characters.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Karate Kid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Captain America.

KK is basically the Superman of his type (Martial Artists) to the point that he can fight against Superman level characters. So, in terms of Martial Arts, is he above Batman?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Jmanghan
So, in terms of Martial Arts, is he above Batman?

Yup.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/55190/1317751-karate_kid_control.jpg

Q99
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yup.


And that is threeboot Karate Kid, not even the strongest version of him!

beatboks
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Wildcat stomps, took on Batman to a draw.

1. No he didn't. In the battle when Joker had bombs set up and Ted and Bruce had to fight Ted was going all out and Bruce was looking for an opening against Joker (there's even a part of the text where Ted tells Bruce to go all out). In the Batman/Wildcat mini Bruce knew he was fighting ted and tried to reason with him also while holding back. Ted says something like "if you were batman i wouldn't be winning this easily". Then when Bruce is finally left no choice he starts opening up and knocks Ted's blind fold mask off.

2. KK >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Batman anyway.

KingD19
Karate Kid knows every martial art in existence. He's probably mastered boxing to ridiculous anime levels and he can throw a jab with as much force as a tank shell or some such. He taps Wildcat and he loses 8 lives at once.

BruceSkywalker
not even a match.. Val punches Ted and he gets knocked the fracked out

Uriel005
Even using purely boxing techniques on a technical level Karate Kid is so far beyond Wildcat this is spite. In just his ability to read opponents Wildcat should never land clean punch while KK will start rolling on the punches... even with gloves on using only boxing moves

It will be worse than Ip Man vs Twister

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xowdhe_combat-final-yip-man-wing-chun-contre-le-champion-du-monde-de-boxe-taylor-the-twister-milos-imperial_school&start=435

namorsubby
Hes amps somehow while practicing karate, like chi. Would that apply with boxing?

Uriel005
Originally posted by namorsubby
Hes amps somehow while practicing karate, like chi. Would that apply with boxing? .... its not while practicing karate its natural ability + technique... furthermore any technique that doesn't violate the set rules of boxing are viable. In boxing as long as you are hitting with closed fist straight on its a legal punch so long as it doesn't violate anything like rabbit punches/backhands below the belts etc. so even another martial arts style punch like a bruce lee 1 inch punch is technically legal in boxing...

namorsubby
I find it hard to believe that even kal is a more technically skilled boxer than Ted. But if it's simply his technique that endows him with chi and superhuman ability then there's really no way he can lose this fight. The kal as potrayed in that fight with Bruce would lose here under these circumstances imo

Cogito
Originally posted by Jmanghan
So, in terms of Martial Arts, is he above Batman?

IIRC according to Superman's files, KK is a level 15 martial artist while Batman is level 12

namorsubby
Originally posted by beatboks
1. No he didn't. In the battle when Joker had bombs set up and Ted and Bruce had to fight Ted was going all out and Bruce was looking for an opening against Joker (there's even a part of the text where Ted tells Bruce to go all out). In the Batman/Wildcat mini Bruce knew he was fighting ted and tried to reason with him also while holding back. Ted says something like "if you were batman i wouldn't be winning this easily". Then when Bruce is finally left no choice he starts opening up and knocks Ted's blind fold mask off.

2. KK >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Batman anyway.

I'm sorry but this whole post is a horrid misinterpretation.

1.Neither combatant were going all out in the first match with the joker involved. The pace increased. Ted knocked Bruce's block off and then helped him up and explained that he couldn't hold back. If he was really going all out he could've simply ended it there, but instead he helped him up. The text clearly explains that they BOTH began to open up till they finally succumbed to the poison in their gloves, hitting each other as they did.

2. First off let me say that a blind fight clearly favors Bruce as he is obviously more extensively skilled overall. Fighting blind he still knew it was Ted because his ma training/knowledge is superior. Even so, in this fight Ted still drew first blood, and he also kicked Bruce to the floor. Bruce was holding back through evasion but not in the sense that he could've simply ended him like Ted in their first fight. Even when he stopped holding back, hit him with all he had, and knocked him to the floor, Wildcat clearly was not harmed at all. He began to speak with him casually right afterwards

Q99
Originally posted by namorsubby
I find it hard to believe that even kal is a more technically skilled boxer than Ted. But if it's simply his technique that endows him with chi and superhuman ability then there's really no way he can lose this fight. The kal as potrayed in that fight with Bruce would lose here under these circumstances imo

It's not glowy-chi like Iron Fist's. It is supposed to be more 'superhuman result due to crazy levels of technique.'


Sorta like some of the stuff Cassandra Cain and Shiva can pull off, turned up several notches.


3boot Karate Kid with a broken arm punching a creature so hard it's torso explode (Artificially constructed warbeast. Maybe class 10 or so)

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