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Both are grounded. No mother boxes for Orion and he doesn't get his harness. Speed Demon has two Katanas made out of Adamantium. Can the Herald power physique or Orion defeat Speed Demon?

No Mother box for Orion and Full Capacity means Orion grows to gigantic levels where Speed Demon can't harm him. Otoh one clap or step or.....well, anything, really, from Orion completely disintegrates the battlefield and Speed Demon.


Unless Orion is further nerfed I guess.

This is obviously not your growing 100 ft tall Orion. This is your standard non-amplified version. Don't make this harder than what it is, try hard.

Originally posted by carver9
This is obviously not your growing 100 ft tall Orion. This is your standard non-amplified version. Don't make this harder than what it is, try hard.

He can do it under his own power though ? It's not an amp as such, remember?

Lmao. This you?

Originally posted by carver9
No external amp was given, it was all based on HIS powerset. Superman sundipping is an external amp. Havok jumping in all star is an external amp. Someone powers being based off of their anger is an internal amp. It's their powerset. Do you not understand this?

Let me know.

Orion is at the point where PLANETS are dwarfed (lmao at '100ft'). Under his own power.

https://i.imgur.com/idUCXoW.jpeg.

They can fit planets in their hands lol.

Dark, he's not growing this tall in this fight and you know that isn't what this thread is meant to be. You're trolling yet again.

Originally posted by carver9
Dark, he's not growing this tall in this fight and you know that isn't what this thread is meant to be. You're trolling yet again.
He can do it under his own power, not my fault you made a crappy thread is it?

He can't do it under his own power, though. There's context to that scene. Even Superman size was grown here.

Originally posted by carver9
He can't do it under his own power, though. There's context to that scene. Even Superman size was grown here.

Yeah, thanks to the Boom Tubes. They are what adjust the sizes. Literally says so in the scan.

Boom Tubes which are controlled by Motherboxes.

Which you removed.

No Motherbox, no Boom Tubes, nothing to adjust Orion's size down. He enters the battlefield at a size where even Celestials would be dwarfed. Good thread.

Nope. Unless you have a scene of him growing without a mother box present. Show me.

Originally posted by carver9
Nope. Unless you have a scene of him growing without a mother box present. Show me.

Wut. The scan clearly states his default state is giant size. Boom Tubes adjust his size down to human levels:
https://i.postimg.cc/BbL6300h/Size.png

Orion uses his Motherbox to summon the Boom Tubes:
https://i.postimg.cc/1X9k00WD/Boom.png

How do you not understand this?

No Motherbox = No Boom Tube = No size reduction for Orion. He literally IS giant size.

He doesn't 'grow' with or without a Motherbox, you silly man....the Boom Tube REDUCES his size.

Carver is a man?

Who allowed you to stop dehumanizing him?

Reported directly to Pr.

Carver , DS is just stating that the OP makes Orion OP. Maybe just adjust it to not being to actively use external powers, or object because of the Wizard of Where-Ever Villa (a tiny villa over there).

Dark knows none of my threads are amped based unless I state it. He's just being a try hard. No amps here.

IT'S NOT AN AMP lol. It's his natural default state.

Yeah New Gods are naturally HUGE. Orion crushes

It's like the Motherbox is a LIMITER on his power.

Carver removed that limiter.

So he enters the thread at his normal power levels without a limiter, i.e. gigantic.

Also, the harness is part of Orion. He creates it.

Originally posted by Juntai
Also, the harness is part of Orion. He creates it.

This is the best thread Carver has ever created lmao.

Lol... You're ass is just trolling.

Not my fault you don't know anything about the characters you make threads about, is it?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's like the Motherbox is a LIMITER on his power.

Carver removed that limiter.

So he enters the thread at his normal power levels without a limiter, i.e. gigantic. Motherbox is also in a constant state of calming him, which is how he keeps his power and rage in check.

Originally posted by carver9
Can the Herald power physique or Orion defeat Speed Demon? mmm

What's this about Orion's "power physique"?

Speed Demon runs away.

I know you guys are toying with Carv, but who would actually win if the stipulations reduced Orion to his smaller, human-like size and removed his Mother Box?

They don't think Orion could win which is the reason they stooped so high to give him a fighting chance. They are using every chance possible for him to win against a low meta level character that it's funny.

Here: https://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=341291&pagenumber=3