Is there any version of Hulk
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Facee
Is there any version of Hulk that is physically stronger than Superman?
abhilegend
Originally posted by Facee
Is there any version of Hulk that is physically stronger than Superman?
No
Stoic
Originally posted by h1a8
Having no limit doesn't mean infinite.
Superman has infinite strength feats, but we typically don't use those in debates (I'm personally against them).
In forum discussions, Hulk does have a strength limit. His limit is the highest he was even shown while not holding back - The WB feat in the dark dimension.
The Hulk would exceed even those. At this current time, Immortal Hulk would give Doomsday what he craves.
His base level alone is insanely higher than anything that the current iteration of Doomsday has shown.
The truth is, that this Hulk would eventually kill Superman if it went that far.
carver9
His base levels is in the elite tier these days. It just gets even bigger after that.
Stoic
Without those rules Superman wins with ease. He just chucks Hulk into deep space. This may not work long but it would still be a win.
h1a8
Originally posted by Stoic
The Hulk would exceed even those. At this current time, Immortal Hulk would give Doomsday what he craves.
His base level alone is insanely higher than anything that the current iteration of Doomsday has shown.
The truth is, that this Hulk would eventually kill Superman if it went that far.
We go by the comics. Hulk's upper limit is what he achieved in Heart of the Monster, and even that was due to specific, plot-driven circumstances. Those conditions aren't present here, so he'd be operating at a significantly lower level, at all times, even when is losing.
Hulk has been knocked out in numerous fights without ever reaching Worldbreaker level or beyond. Once again, he requires specific circumstances to reach that tier of power - and simply being on the verge of a knockout isn't one of them.
Meanwhile, Superman has better strength feats than WB Hulk.
carver9
No one has better pure strength fts than Hulk.
abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
No one has better pure strength fts than Hulk.
Superman does. Far better in fact.
DarkSaint85
Carver, post the best pure strength feat of Hulk
abhilegend
Not punching this guy who punches that guy who has this amazing feat.
DarkSaint85
Silence! The Carvatar will destroy you!
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I just want it to get back to the good old days of scans and debates rather than name calling (yes, hypocritical of me as I call Carver names). Let's go guys!
Ptr_Grifin
I am under the impression WB is considerably stronger than Immortal.
h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
No one has better pure strength fts than Hulk.
Superman does.
carver9
Nope, he doesn't. No one does.
carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Silence! The Carvatar will destroy you!
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I just want it to get back to the good old days of scans and debates rather than name calling (yes, hypocritical of me as I call Carver names). Let's go guys!
In Betweener using most of his power to restrain one of the weakest versions Hulk. The same In Betweener presence alone was ripping the fabric of reality. He was also controlling a Phoenix and cosmic cube entity off of pure power.
https://i.ibb.co/r2gBxrYp/main-qimg-8c65f381d6443b3f81ab1a3f397dd90d-lq.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/zWXxfKj8/main-qimg-c814ec789a5b0825ed5bb33e8b1aca71-lq.jpg
DarkSaint85
That's good, and Carver comes out strong with his top best Hulk feat.
Abhi, your turn. Beat/equal it, or stfu.
abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
In Betweener using most of his power to restrain one of the weakest versions Hulk. The same In Betweener presence alone was ripping the fabric of reality. He was also controlling a Phoenix and cosmic cube entity off of pure power.
https://i.ibb.co/r2gBxrYp/main-qimg-8c65f381d6443b3f81ab1a3f397dd90d-lq.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/zWXxfKj8/main-qimg-c814ec789a5b0825ed5bb33e8b1aca71-lq.jpg
How's this a strength feat? Also, this is an alternate reality hulk.
carver9
Why isn't it a strength ft and why is that an alt Hulk?
abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Why isn't it a strength ft and why is that an alt Hulk?
What strength is he using there? It's an alternate hulk because the reality was altered by a cosmic cube.
Here's a strength feat for you.
Originally posted by abhilegend
This is a doozy. You know when Superman ripped Darkseid from source wall? That has happened once before and it took Metron weakening source wall and a fricking Promethean Giant to do it.
http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25266596_12348428_1298533090164179_1728995677_n.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25266597_12583660_1298533130164175_1241665760_n.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25266598_12584051_1298533170164171_451684533_n.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25266599_12596093_1298533120164176_1746329233_n.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25266601_12607226_1298533150164173_934500139_n.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25266602_12625616_1298533143497507_1127676140_n.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25266603_12625671_1298533123497509_456328724_n.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25266604_12647780_1298533116830843_62271549_n.jpg http://s6d7.turboimg.net/t1/25266600_12596245_1298533133497508_1649076982_n.jpg
That shows how insane that feat was. And the feat where Superman destroys a planet size chunk is even more insane.
Superman can free Darkseid from the source wall without weakening the source wall.
https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/superman-batman-24-2.jpg
carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
What strength is he using there? It's an alternate hulk because the reality was altered by a cosmic cube.
Here's a strength feat for you.
Superman can free Darkseid from the source wall without weakening the source wall.
https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/superman-batman-24-2.jpg
Its 616 Hulk. Its a Hulk ft. Its a strength ft because Hulk STRENGTH is what's making him use most of his power, lol.
Can you post the scan where Superman is ripping him from the source wall?
carver9
Hulk with pure strength walks through a blast that is powerful enough to repel reality...
https://i.ibb.co/vvLRwXTQ/7o53SAq.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/yTbHgP7/yytGAhh.jpg
abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Its 616 Hulk. Its a Hulk ft. Its a strength ft because Hulk STRENGTH is what's making him use most of his power, lol.
Can you post the scan where Superman is ripping him from the source wall?
It's not 616 hulk. Longshot altered the reality by using a cosmic cube.
https://i.ibb.co/5hVg1tbj/Qq-Yfmm-LFp3-KDT1-Bj-X2-S-m-HVS8-KVk4-YT5-X2c-DDN7t-YPNz-Pg-UY3-P9-RMil-LJDt-D8qgq-ER-q5iyjt7s-Dbh-Q.jpg
Different reality altogether.
abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk with pure strength walks through a blast that is powerful enough to repel reality...
https://i.ibb.co/vvLRwXTQ/7o53SAq.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/yTbHgP7/yytGAhh.jpg
They are in crossroads where normal physical laws don't apply. This is too easy lol.
carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
It's not 616 hulk. Longshot altered the reality by using a cosmic cube.
https://i.ibb.co/5hVg1tbj/Qq-Yfmm-LFp3-KDT1-Bj-X2-S-m-HVS8-KVk4-YT5-X2c-DDN7t-YPNz-Pg-UY3-P9-RMil-LJDt-D8qgq-ER-q5iyjt7s-Dbh-Q.jpg
Different reality altogether.
You should probably reread your scan and the comic.
carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
They are in crossroads where normal physical laws don't apply. This is too easy lol.
So he's not slinging reality with his power?
abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
You should probably reread your scan and the comic.
He literally made a new reality using the cosmic cube. Read the scan idiot. Originally posted by carver9
So he's not slinging reality with his power?
Crossroads have reality at weaker level than our reality. In the same comic Vector was pressed by random debris by tornadoes lol.
https://i.ibb.co/7NTks2vc/Ej2-Ia3dy-Rrx-Cjb-GU3-Mw-Jve-O7-HJ-TApa7-0c-ml-Ri-X-Jz-Wz9-OMh04-Zswmlq-BQKESUtaj-d-Wo61-p4-s1600-rh.jpg
abhilegend
Carver? Entertain me at least.
carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
He literally made a new reality using the cosmic cube. Read the scan idiot.
Crossroads have reality at weaker level than our reality. In the same comic Vector was pressed by random debris by tornadoes lol.
https://i.ibb.co/7NTks2vc/Ej2-Ia3dy-Rrx-Cjb-GU3-Mw-Jve-O7-HJ-TApa7-0c-ml-Ri-X-Jz-Wz9-OMh04-Zswmlq-BQKESUtaj-d-Wo61-p4-s1600-rh.jpg
Lol... I read the comic and I've also read the scan you posted. Its Canon to Hulk, abhi. Please read the comic.
This scan you posted doesn't say anything about crossroads being weaker. At least your trying. Are you going to show me where Superman ripped Darkseid from the source wall? Damn!!!
Juntai
Laws of physics don't apply in the crossroads. Gravity. Weight. Distance. Space. Time. etc. do not exist there.
I'm also not sure if you want to use a scan where Hulk had to be saved from gale force wind ripping his flesh from his skeleton.
carver9
Originally posted by Juntai
Laws of physics don't apply in the crossroads. Gravity. Weight. Distance. Space. Time. etc. do not exist there.
I'm also not sure if you want to use a scan where Hulk had to be saved from gale force wind ripping his flesh from his skeleton.
So reality wasn't being pushed back by Vector? Not by the crossroads but Vector?
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Juntai
Laws of physics don't apply in the crossroads. Gravity. Weight. Distance. Space. Time. etc. do not exist there.
I'm also not sure if you want to use a scan where Hulk had to be saved from gale force wind ripping his flesh from his skeleton.

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This was made abundantly clear:
https://i.postimg.cc/ppnzS36N/RCO005-1462392176.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/DmN1B75d/RCO006-1462392176.jpg
Even during the fight with the U-foes, the Crossroads was explicitly all over the place:
https://i.postimg.cc/zBwS8ZX8/RCO013-1462317512.jpg
When the Hulk actually went to a world where 'physics' applied, he either nearly died from the shits after eating fruit:
Shits1 Shits2
Got pinned down by gravity many times Earth/got burnt by acid rain/got nearly killed by dinosaurs:
https://i.postimg.cc/18rnhS0d/RCO006-1478488765.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/94X4ckJQ/RCO008-1478488765.jpg
Got taken out by random energy blasts:
https://i.postimg.cc/mh1PZCNC/RCO027-1462317567.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/YLF0XBqb/RCO029-1462317567.jpg
Or just got phucked up by a literal kid after he was rendered powerless:
https://i.postimg.cc/yN4ZdQGd/RCO008-1462392119.jpg
The Crossroads itself was just a weird place where time and space were different.
carver9
Just say you can't counter what im posting so that I can post more things you can't counter. Its just that simple.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
So reality wasn't being pushed back by Vector? Not by the crossroads but Vector?
Vector WAS pushing back reality, as the scan says.
Reality, however, at the crossroads, is outside the laws of physics, as the scans also explain. Even Hulk couldn't be sure of his own physical durability, let alone his surroundings.
Juntai
Superman can definitely survive 40mph winds. Keep going.
Juntai
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Vector WAS pushing back reality, as the scan says.
Reality, however, at the crossroads, is outside the laws of physics, as the scans also explain. Even Hulk couldn't be sure of his own physical durability, let alone his surroundings.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85

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This was made abundantly clear:
https://i.postimg.cc/ppnzS36N/RCO005-1462392176.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/DmN1B75d/RCO006-1462392176.jpg
Even during the fight with the U-foes, the Crossroads was explicitly all over the place:
https://i.postimg.cc/zBwS8ZX8/RCO013-1462317512.jpg
When the Hulk actually went to a world where 'physics' applied, he either nearly died from the shits after eating fruit:
Shits1 Shits2
Got pinned down by gravity many times Earth/got burnt by acid rain/got nearly killed by dinosaurs:
https://i.postimg.cc/18rnhS0d/RCO006-1478488765.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/94X4ckJQ/RCO008-1478488765.jpg
Got taken out by random energy blasts:
https://i.postimg.cc/mh1PZCNC/RCO027-1462317567.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/YLF0XBqb/RCO029-1462317567.jpg
Or just got phucked up by a literal kid after he was rendered powerless:
https://i.postimg.cc/yN4ZdQGd/RCO008-1462392119.jpg
The Crossroads itself was just a weird place where time and space were different.
Vector does the same exact thing outside of the crossroads... 🤦🏿🤦🏿
https://i.ibb.co/Pzzv5Pn5/rMmZ1gc.jpg
DarkSaint85
You're not getting my point (or rather, Juntais point).
I am not saying Vector DIDN'T repel reality - he DID.
Reality at the crossroads roads, though, is not = reality outside of it. Things are all screwy there.
Like how the Dark Dimension's physical matter was weaker than 616's. Fluff reality, as it were.
abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Lol... I read the comic and I've also read the scan you posted. Its Canon to Hulk, abhi. Please read the comic.
This scan you posted doesn't say anything about crossroads being weaker. At least your trying. Are you going to show me where Superman ripped Darkseid from the source wall? Damn!!!
I've read the comic, that's where I am posting the scans from 🤷🤷
Is this the best you can do after twenty years here? I'm disappointed.
abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Vector does the same exact thing outside of the crossroads... 🤦🏿🤦🏿
https://i.ibb.co/Pzzv5Pn5/rMmZ1gc.jpg
He straight up says his sudden power up has made him lose control of his power, at least read the words of the comic. That's not his usual power level and he has never showed that level of power before and after in real world. Here's his next appearance.
https://i.ibb.co/qYSzdX7z/KNOXxyv-JGue-NUFo-Pvb7q5c9-Y4n4ddt-Cu-ZW3-Rj-N4if-Pd-YAEUEtl6rb-Vbv3-RNh-JF4m-FE3-C5h-JUb-Fzsh-Fd-Ry.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Gvr3jR01/Kj3n-Ldk-Cryr-De-MEdsvo-SSxj-MXl-Nb6-XMx-Ghz4-UC3-Kq2uy-ER8-Lwe-IYJ0yvzn7-Mc86qo-ANVEu-Zv9-WU0-In-R.jpg
The power of X-ray was too much for Vector to repel lol.
carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
He straight up says his sudden power up has made him lose control of his power, at least read the words of the comic. That's not his usual power level and he has never showed that level of power before and after in real world. Here's his next appearance.
https://i.ibb.co/qYSzdX7z/KNOXxyv-JGue-NUFo-Pvb7q5c9-Y4n4ddt-Cu-ZW3-Rj-N4if-Pd-YAEUEtl6rb-Vbv3-RNh-JF4m-FE3-C5h-JUb-Fzsh-Fd-Ry.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Gvr3jR01/Kj3n-Ldk-Cryr-De-MEdsvo-SSxj-MXl-Nb6-XMx-Ghz4-UC3-Kq2uy-ER8-Lwe-IYJ0yvzn7-Mc86qo-ANVEu-Zv9-WU0-In-R.jpg
The power of X-ray was too much for Vector to repel lol.
You gotta be trolling. He fought Hulk with this same power up. This is the same exact Vector that fought Hulk. Why are you like this? Also, the one that fought Thor loss the power up. 🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿
abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
You gotta be trolling. He fought Hulk with this same power up. This is the same exact Vector that fought Hulk. Why are you like this? Also, the one that fought Thor loss the power up. 🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿
This is literally the same vector which fought with the Hulk, it's literally shown in the comic.
https://i.ibb.co/7x6qN6rW/ic-PMDr-NL7-Eum-M9tu-Ir-AHb-Dsu-Cv-F-Uk-OBY1-IKddk-XPY4u-PY4c-RTZ5ay-G41p1-L-PPg-N3-H5-Rb-V8-PIy-Wx1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/4ZCB558X/m-MDsh4r-Xhza-OPEJ7-CXe-Kj1ef-Glhlk-ENuxg5fk-Q-D5-EY17-PEf6p1-Wxc-Dlxt8-Azuc-h-Wg-Q-Zcf-V3p-HEx-Iah1.jpg
Read the goddamn comic, it's Avengers 304.
carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
This is literally the same vector which fought with the Hulk, it's literally shown in the comic.
https://i.ibb.co/7x6qN6rW/ic-PMDr-NL7-Eum-M9tu-Ir-AHb-Dsu-Cv-F-Uk-OBY1-IKddk-XPY4u-PY4c-RTZ5ay-G41p1-L-PPg-N3-H5-Rb-V8-PIy-Wx1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/4ZCB558X/m-MDsh4r-Xhza-OPEJ7-CXe-Kj1ef-Glhlk-ENuxg5fk-Q-D5-EY17-PEf6p1-Wxc-Dlxt8-Azuc-h-Wg-Q-Zcf-V3p-HEx-Iah1.jpg
Read the goddamn comic, it's Avengers 304.
You're so freaking stupid. The screne i posted above happened in incredible Hulk #304. THIS SCENE...
https://i.ibb.co/zVwNkVYn/rMmZ1gc.jpg
This scene happened in Incredible Hulk #305...
https://i.ibb.co/bRNDWbC2/7o53SAq.jpg https://i.ibb.co/ST9FVyG/yytGAhh.jpg
It literally happened in the next comic. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You are an embarrassment. Then you try to talk like you know what yoi are talking about. They met up with Hulk as soon as they vanished. Dummy
carver9
Incredible Hulk #304 we see the UFOs in it (click on the image)
https://i.ibb.co/35ZXYFPK/Screenshot-20250622-135106-Samsung-Internet.jpg
Incredible Hulk #305 cover shows them fighting.
https://i.ibb.co/1GFTCDtY/Screenshot-20250622-135127-Samsung-Internet.png
abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
You're so freaking stupid. The screne i posted above happened in incredible Hulk #304. THIS SCENE...
https://i.ibb.co/zVwNkVYn/rMmZ1gc.jpg
This scene happened in Incredible Hulk #305...
https://i.ibb.co/bRNDWbC2/7o53SAq.jpg https://i.ibb.co/ST9FVyG/yytGAhh.jpg
It literally happened in the next comic. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You are an embarrassment. Then you try to talk like you know what yoi are talking about. They met up with Hulk as soon as they vanished. Dummy Originally posted by carver9
Incredible Hulk #304 we see the UFOs in it (click on the image)
https://i.ibb.co/35ZXYFPK/Screenshot-20250622-135106-Samsung-Internet.jpg
Incredible Hulk #305 cover shows them fighting.
https://i.ibb.co/1GFTCDtY/Screenshot-20250622-135127-Samsung-Internet.png
The same vector which fought with the Hulk (in hulk 305) fought Thor in Avengers 304 immediately afterwards. There was no loss of power for Vector.
You shouldn't be this stupid, how do you remember to breathe?
carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
The same vector which fought with the Hulk (in hulk 305) fought Thor in Avengers 304 immediately afterwards. There was no loss of power for Vector.
You shouldn't be this stupid, how do you remember to breathe?
Prove it. He was trapped in that dimension for years. Prove that is the same Vector. Also, in the fight you're parading, Vector only used a fraction of his power. Keep reaching...
https://i.ibb.co/0j91266M/AZWrAlY.jpg
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carver9
Reality warping force. Lol... that's whaf we are working with. Also, over powering abstract force as well.
carver9
Hulk punch a ship that dwarfs continents across space in a single hit...
https://i.ibb.co/RTrtmfMc/Screenshot-20250622-150553-Chrome.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/JwvJ5yHZ/Screenshot-20250622-150622-Chrome.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/zVqhh0Gn/Screenshot-20250622-150636-Chrome.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/W4DFJFfc/Screenshot-20250622-150652-Chrome.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/pBG6h6W8/Screenshot-20250622-150708-Chrome.jpg
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DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk punch a ship that dwarfs continents across space in a single hit...
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I mean....the first comparison that comes to mind off the top of my head is Braniac's ship, which dwarfed Earth.
A ship that's dwarfing continents of a smaller planet isn't the flex you might think it is. Mars is like.....10% the mass of Earth.
carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I mean....the first comparison that comes to mind off the top of my head is Braniac's ship, which dwarfed Earth.
A ship that's dwarfing continents of a smaller planet isn't the flex you might think it is. Mars is like.....10% the mass of Earth.
I'm just trying to keep the debate going. I'm not saying this is the best. Can you post the scene you're referencing?
DarkSaint85

I just wanted to avoid all this with mid level Superman and Hulk feats and just go for the top tier premium A grade feats that Hulk did, that Superman can't replicate (or in abhi's words, do it far better.
I'm just saying, this just makes abhi look good because he'll pull feats like Superman and MMH throwing Brainy's ship out, and then Hulk's feat looks puny in comparison (the machine was already in orbit, btw, and Hulk just gave it a hard push). Not to take away from it, I'm saying it pulls the feat down a bit because once it's already in space, with no air resistance etc, it won't take as much energy as you might think.
carver9
We are including shared fts? Also, like i said, im posting it to keep the thread going, nothing more. Any non-shared fts?
DarkSaint85
Thing is, even if Superman did 10% of the work (so MMH is doing 90%) it still absolutely poops on Hulk's feat.
Put it this way. The ENTIRETY of Mars is only as big as the Pacific Ocean. Braniac's ship was as big as MULTIPLE Earths - I think someone somewhere said it was as big as 40 Earths, EACH Earth being 10 x the whole of Mars. So the Brainy ship is like 1,000 times the mass of the machine the Avengers built.
Even if Superman 'only' contributed 10% of the effort, he's still pushing 100x the mass Hulk did.
If he contributed 1% (so MMH is contributing 99%) it's still 10x more mass than Hulk, i.e. Superman is showcasing he's 10x stronger.
For it to be on Hulk's level, you would need to lowball Superman so severely (and wank MMH) that Superman is contributing 0.1% of the pushing, lol, and MMH is giving 99.9%. And even then, it *only* brings it to Hulk's level.
Which also means you're saying MMH is like.....1000x as strong as Hulk, lol. That would be insane.
In short: MMH and Superman TOGETHER are 1000x stronger than Hulk, using the respective feats. How you want to split this (MMH is 500x, Superman is 500x, or Superman is 600x, and MMH is 400x etc) is up to you - but it's still stronger.
carver9
Martian Manhunter isn't in this thread... 😤 but I get what you're saying.
h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
Reality warping force. Lol... that's whaf we are working with. Also, over powering abstract force as well.
How much is reality warping force? Is it a force, as in a push or pull?
How much is abstract force? These are made up terms. Provide a quantifiable estimate.
carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
How much is reality warping force? Is it a force, as in a push or pull?
How much is abstract force? These are made up terms. Provide a quantifiable estimate.
Its above herald level and trans tier level of power. I could be wrong but do you know of any Heralds or sky father's that mere presence is capable of ripping reality apart? I don't but again, I could be wrong (all of the UFOs were amped by the way. They are the exception).
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Martian Manhunter isn't in this thread... 😤 but I get what you're saying.
Byrne Superman was throwing giant ships around space - iirc it was to another solar system. I can push a car, with great difficulty, but I can push it. I cannot take a smaller car and literally throw it. Magnitudes of difference there in strength, especially if you consider I'm at one of my 'weakest' incarnations.
But yeah, the Braniac ship - even with MMH (who was literally on fire at the time) - still dwarfs that Hulk feat, by a LOT.
Originally posted by carver9
Its above herald level and trans tier level of power. I could be wrong but do you know of any Heralds or sky father's that mere presence is capable of ripping reality apart? I don't but again, I could be wrong (all of the UFOs were amped by the way. They are the exception).
We also know that 'reality' at the crossroads is all over the place in terms of space and time and durability.
abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Prove it. He was trapped in that dimension for years. Prove that is the same Vector. Also, in the fight you're parading, Vector only used a fraction of his power. Keep reaching...
https://i.ibb.co/0j91266M/AZWrAlY.jpg
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Where did you get that he was trapped there for years? Different scene altogether, here Vector is fighting with X-ray to take on Thor. Originally posted by abhilegend
He straight up says his sudden power up has made him lose control of his power, at least read the words of the comic. That's not his usual power level and he has never showed that level of power before and after in real world. Here's his next appearance.
https://i.ibb.co/qYSzdX7z/KNOXxyv-JGue-NUFo-Pvb7q5c9-Y4n4ddt-Cu-ZW3-Rj-N4if-Pd-YAEUEtl6rb-Vbv3-RNh-JF4m-FE3-C5h-JUb-Fzsh-Fd-Ry.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Gvr3jR01/Kj3n-Ldk-Cryr-De-MEdsvo-SSxj-MXl-Nb6-XMx-Ghz4-UC3-Kq2uy-ER8-Lwe-IYJ0yvzn7-Mc86qo-ANVEu-Zv9-WU0-In-R.jpg
The power of X-ray was too much for Vector to repel lol.
The narration straight up says X-ray's power is too much for Vector to repel.
abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk punch a ship that dwarfs continents across space in a single hit...
https://i.ibb.co/RTrtmfMc/Screenshot-20250622-150553-Chrome.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/JwvJ5yHZ/Screenshot-20250622-150622-Chrome.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/zVqhh0Gn/Screenshot-20250622-150636-Chrome.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/W4DFJFfc/Screenshot-20250622-150652-Chrome.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/pBG6h6W8/Screenshot-20250622-150708-Chrome.jpg
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Where's it bigger than continents Carver? Anyway, Superman throws a ship the size of a moon to another solar system.
https://imgur.com/a/82E9L
And unlike the machine there, it's unambiguously bigger than a moon.
https://i.ibb.co/chmRzmk2/9q-u4-d-Tohr-HHp-Zr-Lktjwh-Dd-ELs8uu-s-YHldq-TSMXll-FUPd-NWvy9-QH6-SIb7-Wx-HVOc-RVS0s-KAqv-GX2-QJ2q.jpg
DarkSaint85
Yeah that's the example I'm thinking of:
1. Lobo oneshotted a planet
2. Superman threw a ship the size of a small moon to another system
3. This was Byrne Superman, the Superman people usually say is the weakest.
Carver's example is like a strongman pushing a car and it crashes into a wall a block away.
My example is a strongman, without any training, picking that car up and throwing it into the next county. This is ignoring any size differences, lol.
Facee
I don't want to see who punched who or who beat who. I want to see lifting freaking feats.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Facee
I don't want to see who punched who or who beat who. I want to see lifting freaking feats.
In that case, we have Hulk pushing something that was apparently bigger than Martian continents (I think, though that makes no sense as Mars does not have tectonic plates as such) and Superman throwing a ship the size of a small moon into a different solar system.
carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Where's it bigger than continents Carver? Anyway, Superman throws a ship the size of a moon to another solar system.
https://imgur.com/a/82E9L
And unlike the machine there, it's unambiguously bigger than a moon.
https://i.ibb.co/chmRzmk2/9q-u4-d-Tohr-HHp-Zr-Lktjwh-Dd-ELs8uu-s-YHldq-TSMXll-FUPd-NWvy9-QH6-SIb7-Wx-HVOc-RVS0s-KAqv-GX2-QJ2q.jpg
Where did he throw it?
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Where did he throw it?
In the first scan
carver9
The entire planet, planet Sakaar was splitting in half. Hulk pulled the planet back together (he was weakened by the way)...
https://i.ibb.co/ddQ1JJN/hulk-pulls-a-planet-back-together-whilst-getting-burned-v0-deyui71zl60f1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/JWJMSjMC/hulk-pulls-a-planet-back-together-whilst-getting-burned-v0-yh4p281zl60f1.jpg
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DarkSaint85
@Carv: you think this beats out Superman's Braniac ship feat, or him throwing that spaceship away from Earth?
abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
The entire planet, planet Sakaar was splitting in half. Hulk pulled the planet back together (he was weakened by the way)...
https://i.ibb.co/ddQ1JJN/hulk-pulls-a-planet-back-together-whilst-getting-burned-v0-deyui71zl60f1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/JWJMSjMC/hulk-pulls-a-planet-back-together-whilst-getting-burned-v0-yh4p281zl60f1.jpg
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Hulk shifted two tectonic plates as revealed in the next page.
https://i.ibb.co/4ZkfHC2B/d-Wc-Q4-Fr-ZBGnqn-F17irzwr-G4ht4-588-Yd-Gxey-D97-UFAHBxe7dr-YLQ54-XK9-G1-BC-W0-Vwqz-Wf5-UPMOl-s1600.jpg
Originally posted by abhilegend
While being nearly depowered by starbreaker draining him, Superman seals a planetary level fissure created by starbreaker.
http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15791240_justice_league_america_64_ocd_pharo20.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15791256_justice_league_america_64_ocd_pharo21.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15791272_justice_league_america_65_ocd_pharo15.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15791286_justice_league_america_65_ocd_pharo16.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15791287_justice_league_america_65_ocd_pharo19.jpg
You're posting Byrne Superman level stuff lol.
abhilegend
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
@Carv: you think this beats out Superman's Braniac ship feat, or him throwing that spaceship away from Earth?
Forget that, he's not even beating Byrne level Superman stuff.
carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hulk shifted two tectonic plates as revealed in the next page.
https://i.ibb.co/4ZkfHC2B/d-Wc-Q4-Fr-ZBGnqn-F17irzwr-G4ht4-588-Yd-Gxey-D97-UFAHBxe7dr-YLQ54-XK9-G1-BC-W0-Vwqz-Wf5-UPMOl-s1600.jpg
You're posting Byrne Superman level stuff lol.
It said he shifted the very plates, never said 2 plates. Also, it was said that the planet was splitting and he unbroke the world.
carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
@Carv: you think this beats out Superman's Braniac ship feat, or him throwing that spaceship away from Earth?
Its a shared ft. I'm honestly not counting that. The threadster said post Hulk and Superman fts, not Hulk, Superman, and Martian Manhunyer fts.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Its a shared ft. I'm honestly not counting that. The threadster said post Hulk and Superman fts, not Hulk, Superman, and Martian Manhunyer fts.
The Braniac ship feat being shared between Superman and MMH literally on fire (his weakness) doesn't take that away. If I am able to lift an elephant over my head, along with my friend, that doesn't mean it's not impressive.
Also, you forgot to mention the moon ship, where he throws it out of the solar system.Originally posted by carver9
It said he shifted the very plates, never said 2 plates. Also, it was said that the planet was splitting and he unbroke the world.
Was it ever said how big Sakaar/the plates were? I have the hardback and iirc all it said was that the planet was 12,150 units in diameter, which doesn't mean much when I don't know what a unit is lol.
carver9
There's no friction is space, even DC has acknowledged this. So I can't weigh in on the ship ft. I'm also not considering shared fts. Superman has plenty of solo fts he can use tbh.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
There's no friction is space, even DC has acknowledged this. So I can't weigh in on the ship ft. I'm also not considering shared fts. Superman has plenty of solo fts he can use tbh.
But you weighed in using Hulk's shared feat with Manifold, where Eden had already placed the ship into orbit ....
How large are those tectonic plates that Hulk is pulling together? How large is Sakaar?
So you're saying since there's no friction in space (lol), this means....what, that Alfred can do the same?
abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
It said he shifted the very plates, never said 2 plates. Also, it was said that the planet was splitting and he unbroke the world.
He was grabbing two plates and that's what he shifted. Also it's clearly stated that the crust of the planet was breaking lol.
"The crust of the very planet is splitting" not the actual planet.
h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
Its above herald level and trans tier level of power. I could be wrong but do you know of any Heralds or sky father's that mere presence is capable of ripping reality apart? I don't but again, I could be wrong (all of the UFOs were amped by the way. They are the exception). So you can't quantify it? Should we guess and say a million tons?
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Why isn't it a strength ft and why is that an alt Hulk?
Ok, so issue 1 starts with Longshot getting a haircut:
https://i.postimg.cc/cv8rf7xY/RCO005-1698997746.jpg
Meanwhile, Reed/Tony have a Cosmic Cube which they are transporting, and the In-Betweener is hunting for it:
https://i.postimg.cc/ZCQW9sS4/RCO008-1698997746.jpg
Longshot, after his haircut, gets involved with a bank heist gone wrong at the home of an eccentric inventor and his hot daughter:
https://i.postimg.cc/1fXg3hbv/RCO012-1698997746.jpg
With me so far?
Unfortunately/fortunately, the In-Betweener catches up to Longshot, and the inventor tries to protect Longshot by shooting him, which hits Tony/Reed's truck, which explodes and Longshot gets the CC:
https://i.postimg.cc/SjD24N1X/RCO019-1698997746.jpg
Longshot then has the CC, and rewrites reality:
https://i.postimg.cc/py2h3nCb/RCO020-1698997746.jpg
In this new reality, the bank heist never happened, and the In-Betweener got split in half and took over SHIELD to hunt magical beings etc etc etc. That's why Hulk et al are alternate versions - Longshot rewrote reality. This is confirmed in the next issue, which abhi posted:
https://i.postimg.cc/GpgTB2Qd/RCO002-1664345387.jpg
It's not 616 Hulk, it's *a* Hulk from a reality that was rewritten by Longshot using the CC. Sorry.
DarkSaint85
Edit: and it isn't even the only time he uses it. We later on see that he's been using the CC over and over and over again to help people, which is what is destroying reality:
https://i.postimg.cc/g2kjzFZv/RCO011-1663993547.jpg
It's not even alt. Hulk, at this point, lol. It's alt.alt.alt.alt.alt Hulk.
Delta1938
Originally posted by carver9
No one has better pure strength fts than Hulk.
Show me Hulk lifting infinite weight.
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