Eternity vs Death vs Oblivion

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guy222
stick out tongue

Stoic
Very interesting thread Guy, I wonder how it will go?

guy222
Hope good friend. Taking Death

zopzop
IMHO : draw.

guy222
It should b

Cogito
The members of the cosmic compass are supposed to be equals

bbrem123
I would say Oblivion...he represents the end of everything and should be no possible way to destroy him.

Epicurus
Oblivion wins.

Swamp Walker
Oblivion.

Magnon
Originally posted by bbrem123
I would say Oblivion...he represents the end of everything and should be no possible way to destroy him.

Existence destroys Oblivion. There cannot be nothingness when there is something. Eternity ftw.

zopzop
Originally posted by Magnon
Existence destroys Oblivion. There cannot be nothingness when there is something. Eternity ftw.
Shhh. Stop making sense.

leonidas
too many references to eternity as the greatest of the abstracts to not say him, though though perhaps should be equals.

bbrem123
Originally posted by Magnon
Existence destroys Oblivion. There cannot be nothingness when there is something. Eternity ftw.

You cant completely destroy Oblivion though. But a universe can die which we have seen happen many time.

CortSether
Eternity = Oblivion > Death

zopzop
Originally posted by CortSether
Eternity = Oblivion = Death = Infinity
And that's me being generous.

We already saw what happens when Infinity fought Oblivion. He couldn't beat her despite having the odds in his favor.

Galan007
Originally posted by bbrem123
But a universe can die which we have seen happen many time. We saw an aspect of Oblivion(Chaos King) absorb nearly 99% of the multiverse/Eternity into himself before he was stopped--and Eternity flat-out stated that he was powerless to stop it:
http://imgur.com/242zJnt

So based on that, I'd have to side with Oblivion here.

zopzop
Originally posted by Galan007
We saw an aspect of Oblivion(Chaos King) absorb nearly 99% of the multiverse/Eternity into himself before he was stopped--and Eternity flat-out stated that he was powerless to stop it:
http://imgur.com/242zJnt

So based on that, I'd have to side with Oblivion here.
And we're supposed to just take Oblivion's word for it that CK is a "mere" aspect of him when ALL of Oblivion couldn't beat Infinity despite having multiple advantages in that fight. And as stated on panel, Eternity = Infinity. And if he couldn't beat Infinity...........

So the admitted liar (stated by himself on panel) and dimwitted buffoon (made a fool of by his lackey multiple times) is telling the truth regarding CK and himself? Whatever......

Galan007
If you do not have legitimate(key word) evidence which suggests that Oblivion's claim was a ruse, then yes, I will absolutely take his word(and by proxy, the writer's word) over your completely unsubstantiated opinion.

Aside from Oblivion's statement in that comic, there is also a plethora of evidence from Chaos War itself to support the notion that CK=Oblivion. Observe...

" very existence blatantly defies every law of the universe. He will not stop until all of reality is consumed. He is the end of all that is. Entropy. OBLIVION.":
http://i.imgur.com/Gl2yX1R.jpg

"The Chaos King is the darkness and chaos that existed before existence itself. He is an anti-god. The void against which I am defined.":
http://imgur.com/VPACZsz

"Chaos King is far more than a mere God. Indeed, he was the whole universe before the beginning of everything... And he longs to return to that condition. His aim is nothing less than the destruction of all of reality, piece by piece, until he is once again the only thing in existence.":
http://imgur.com/14EFc8r


Same coin, Oblivion's been embodying the exact same concept(s) since his very first appearance in the 80's...

"You have come to the one who embodies non-existence. You have come to Oblivion. Before the multiverse was, I was. At the end of all things, I wait. I am the void..":
http://imgur.com/Y2aaliA

Oblivion's bio confirms his conceptual role:
http://imgur.com/XcZ9Emt
http://imgur.com/Gv3iQJN

And his most recent depiction further solidifies the above:
http://imgur.com/sgrLHIF
http://imgur.com/P5XHpoX
http://imgur.com/go9aoFJ


Point being: even if we wouldn't have been given any further information regarding the relationship between CK and Oblivion, it would have still been rather easy to connect the dots between them for ourselves, given that they embody the exact same concept(s). Fortunately for us, however, we were outright TOLD that CK=an aspect of Oblivion's infinitude:
http://imgur.com/izvk5cZ
...So no theorizing is required. Although I'm sure you'll just ignore all of the above, so I don't know why I'm even wasting my time. smile

zopzop
Originally posted by Galan007
If you do not have legitimate(key word) evidence which suggests that Oblivion's claim was a ruse, then yes, I will absolutely take his word(and by proxy, the writer's word) over your completely unsubstantiated opinion.

Aside from Oblivion's statement in that comic, there is also a plethora of evidence from Chaos War itself to support the notion that CK=Oblivion. Observe...

" very existence blatantly defies every law of the universe. He will not stop until all of reality is consumed. He is the end of all that is. Entropy. OBLIVION.":
http://i.imgur.com/Gl2yX1R.jpg

"The Chaos King is the darkness and chaos that existed before existence itself. He is an anti-god. The void against which I am defined.":
http://imgur.com/VPACZsz

"Chaos King is far more than a mere God. Indeed, he was the whole universe before the beginning of everything... And he longs to return to that condition. His aim is nothing less than the destruction of all of reality, piece by piece, until he is once again the only thing in existence.":
http://imgur.com/14EFc8r


Same coin, Oblivion's been embodying the exact same concept(s) since his very first appearance in the 80's...

"You have come to the one who embodies non-existence. You have come to Oblivion. Before the multiverse was, I was. At the end of all things, I wait. I am the void..":
http://imgur.com/Y2aaliA

Oblivion's bio confirms his conceptual role:
http://imgur.com/XcZ9Emt
http://imgur.com/Gv3iQJN

And his most recent depiction further solidifies the above:
http://imgur.com/sgrLHIF
http://imgur.com/P5XHpoX
http://imgur.com/go9aoFJ


Point being: even if we wouldn't have been given any further information regarding the relationship between CK and Oblivion, it would have still been rather easy to connect the dots between them for ourselves, given that they embody the exact same concept(s). Fortunately for us, however, we were outright TOLD that CK=an aspect of Oblivion's infinitude:
http://imgur.com/izvk5cZ
...So no theorizing is required. Although I'm sure you'll just ignore all of the above, so I don't know why I'm even wasting my time. smile
So Oblivion > CK = Eternity based on character statements right?

So why when Oblivion GOT INTO AN ACTUAL FIGHT, he couldn't beat Infinity (despite having multiple things in his favor) who is really just Eternity (two sides of the same coin)?

Galan007
I do not believe Oblivion's 'power'(or w/e)>CK's, if that's what your implying--please refrain from putting words in my mouth. Nothingness cannot be>nothingness.

I do believe Oblivion's scope of influence>CK's(initial) scope of influence, however.

Sundipped
@Zop
Infinity and Oblivion fought through avatars. One of which Malestrom was inept in areas such as cosmic awareness after he was revived by Oblivion. Hell one of the amps he had consumed him. Not a good basis to use in this argument.

guy222
Who do u think wins Sun

Sundipped
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Everybody's =.
How ya been doing?

guy222
Doin good. How u been

Mr Master
Eternity/Infinity/Death/Oblivion, are equals.

Simple.

Aside from Oblivion talking mad shit ... he's just another one of the four major Concepts.

Although, on panel, Infinity stalemated an amped Oblivion one could say,
cause Oblivion had merged with Maelstrom and Infinity had merged with Quasar.
... and Maelstrom was amped to uberness.

Abraxas was tearing the Multiverse apart with his presence, and would've taken it all down,
yet he's simply the opposite of Eternity/Infinity.

zopzop
Originally posted by Mr Master
Eternity/Infinity/Death/Oblivion, are equals.

Simple.

Aside from Oblivion talking mad shit ... he's just another one of the four major Concepts.

Although, on panel, Infinity stalemated an amped Oblivion one could say,
cause Oblivion had merged with Maelstrom and Infinity had merged with Quasar.
... and Maelstrom was amped to uberness.

Abraxas was tearing the Multiverse apart with his presence, and would've taken it all down,
yet he's simply the opposite of Eternity/Infinity.
thumb up

guy222
Originally posted by Mr Master
Eternity/Infinity/Death/Oblivion, are equals.

Simple.

Aside from Oblivion talking mad shit ... he's just another one of the four major Concepts.

Although, on panel, Infinity stalemated an amped Oblivion one could say,
cause Oblivion had merged with Maelstrom and Infinity had merged with Quasar.
... and Maelstrom was amped to uberness.

Abraxas was tearing the Multiverse apart with his presence, and would've taken it all down,
yet he's simply the opposite of Eternity/Infinity. good friend do I believe the chaos king is an aspect of oblivion

zopzop
Originally posted by guy222
good friend do I believe the chaos king is an aspect of oblivion
Guy.......................why?! sad

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by Galan007
I do not believe Oblivion's 'power'(or w/e)>CK's, if that's what your implying--please refrain from putting words in my mouth. Nothingness cannot be>nothingness.

I do believe Oblivion's scope of influence>CK's(initial) scope of influence, however. I perfectly agree with this.

Colossus-Big C
When does aspect mean less power anyway? I thought aspecy mean another form/personality. aspect in anyway doesnt mean portion erm

guy222
Originally posted by zopzop
Guy.......................why?! sad just an honest question buddy. I meant do u

zopzop
Originally posted by guy222
just an honest question buddy. I meant do u
IMHO CK is beyond the four Cornerstones : Death/Eternity/Oblivion/Infinity.

Epicurus
Originally posted by zopzop
IMHO CK is beyond the four Cornerstones : Death/Eternity/Oblivion/Infinity.
laughing out loud

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