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This is Pre DCNU Lobo in mainstream form, as he operated during his L.E.G.I.O.N days. No clones.

Simon is pulled out of time, and is not a pacifist, but is acting like he was when he fought the Avengers a couple of years ago.

Namor has a hydrating suit on.

Battle takes place in a big park far away from you... and me.

No BFR Kill or be killed match.

How does this play out?

Lobo probably wins, but i'm not betting any money on it.

Tough match either way.

Tough match, not sure what Lobo could do to Wonderman (isn't he all energy?)

Team

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Tough match, not sure what Lobo could do to Wonderman (isn't he all energy?)
Punching him always works. The main man wins.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Punching him always works. The main man wins.

Team stomps

Originally posted by carver9
Team stomps

How do they stomp?

Originally posted by Stoic
How do they stomp?

Either could give Lobo a run for his money by themselves...together, I think it is overkill. Wonderman has been amped and Namor history has shown him as being capable of hanging with high Heralds.

Originally posted by Stoic
How do they stomp?
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d90/GWAR129/curb-stomp.gif

Team wins.

IMO
Namor is below Lobo but WW is a little bit on his level, together they should be able to take him down.

I think the question that should be asked is; what is the team going to do to Lobo?

Originally posted by carver9
Either could give Lobo a run for his money by themselves...together, I think it is overkill. Wonderman has been amped and Namor history has shown him as being capable of hanging with high Heralds.

Lobo trashed a team of L.E.G.I.O.N characters that rivaled the Avengers in power though. Strata alone is/was more powerful than the Thing, and more durable. Lobo ripped a chunk out of her with his bare hands, and did it with ease. that was just one of them.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d90/GWAR129/curb-stomp.gif

That gif is pretty offensive considering the premise. Lobo would probably be doing that to Namor while choking the hell out of Simon.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Team wins.

You're pro marvel Quan, I know you are, we all know you are. Keep up the great work.

Originally posted by Stoic
Lobo trashed a team of L.E.G.I.O.N characters that rivaled the Avengers in power though. Strata alone is/was more powerful than the Thing, and more durable. Lobo ripped a chunk out of her with his bare hands, and did it with ease. that was just one of them.



That gif is pretty offensive considering the premise. Lobo would probably be doing that to Namor while choking the hell out of Simon.



You're pro marvel Quan, I know you are, we all know you are. Keep up the great work. Team is too much. You ignore comics all the time. Keep up the biased work.

Lobo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Team is too much. You ignore comics all the time. Keep up the biased work.

I see what you did there, but there's no need to blame me for your failings.

Originally posted by Stoic
Lobo trashed a team of L.E.G.I.O.N characters that rivaled the Avengers in power though. Strata alone is/was more powerful than the Thing, and more durable. Lobo ripped a chunk out of her with his bare hands, and did it with ease. that was just one of them.



That gif is pretty offensive considering the premise. Lobo would probably be doing that to Namor while choking the hell out of Simon.



You're pro marvel Quan, I know you are, we all know you are. Keep up the great work.

That still doesn't mean he is taking out this squad. Namor has had the advantage over the fantastic four, stalemate Black Bolt (was winning), stalemate Thor, defeated Hulk, stalemate Void Sentry, Hercules, etc, etc...Namor has the tools.at his disposal proving.he could give Lobo a run for his money on his own. Even while weakened, he gained an advantage over Blaastar.

Wonderland is.currently operating at Herald levels. Unknown Herald levels but he is operating pretty high. He should be able to.give him a fight on his lonesome as well. Putting them together is overkill. Also, I don't like how Lobo showings are against true players.

Originally posted by Stoic
I see what you did there, but there's no need to blame me for your failings. You have admitted to me as much before so quit denying it.

Lobo BFR WM through his space hog and punches a hole through Namor. No contest.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Lobo BFR WM through his space hog and punches a hole through Namor. No contest.

So Lobo can hit harder than Hulk and Thor?

Originally posted by carver9
So Lobo can hit harder than Hulk and Thor?

Let's not kid outselves. Hulk on average is above these two. If Lobo is strong enough to hurt Superman and other top tiers in the DCU, he's powerful enough to do the same to Namor. Plus, I'd put Lobo above Pre- WW Hulk on average.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Let's not kid outselves. Hulk on average is above these two. If Lobo is strong enough to hurt Superman and other top tiers in the DCU, he's powerful enough to do the same to Namor. Plus, I'd put Lobo above Pre- WW Hulk on average.

The only reason I asked that is, Namor has taken hits from both without getting hole punched through him. Don't see why it would happen here.

Huh? WTF? What has Lobo done to make you think he is above someone like Savage or Professor Hulk. The guy hurt his hand punching Darkseid. Superman tanked some blows from him. I honestly don't see where you got this idea from unless you are using space cheese fts.

. That wasn't the real Darksied. Unless you can point out where DS took a side job in a blackhole time warp memory dimension place.
And LOBO is WAY better in H2H skill then Tantrum Hulk or Nerd Hulk. And LOBO doesn't like to BFR people cause HE can't fly and thus would have to go chase the victims sorry ass all over the place only to hit them again.

LOBO wails WM and Namor cause they aint got jack. And I don't see why people have to throw Hulk and Thor into this.

LOBO only uses HIs own natural abilities not Gamma Crutchs and Magic Daddy Hammers to win their fights.

Lobo wins

Team

But pre Nu52 LOBO carries explosives that are MUCH more powerful then pumpkin bombs!

Didn't WW just beat Lobo. Team carries it FTW

Originally posted by guy222
Didn't WW just beat Lobo. Team carries it FTW

This is Pre DCnU Lobo. I don't like the way that DC has played him out, which is why I'm going with a much older version of him.

All things change friend. Writers and Editors. Still like the duo

If you THINK that that ....THING that is currently running around the DCNU (ala the supergirl issues) is LOBO!

Then I can see why you choose TEAM!

Originally posted by carver9
So Lobo can hit harder than Hulk and Thor?

Unless you can provide a scan or some proof of either ever showing the sort of strength that pulls stellar mass out of the sky ( something Lobo did in L.E.G.I.O.N). than absolutely freakin yes. Stellar mass >>>>>>>>>> planet busting strength

Lobo could beat these two drunk just like he did the JLA, Superman, Captain Marvel, and L.E.G.I.O.N.

Okay

Originally posted by beatboks
Unless you can provide a scan or some proof of either ever showing the sort of strength that pulls stellar mass out of the sky ( something Lobo did in L.E.G.I.O.N). than absolutely freakin yes. Stellar mass >>>>>>>>>> planet busting strength

Lobo could beat these two drunk just like he did the JLA, Superman, Captain Marvel, and L.E.G.I.O.N.

People underestimate Lobo. Even after everything he has done.

Originally posted by beatboks
Unless you can provide a scan or some proof of either ever showing the sort of strength that pulls stellar mass out of the sky ( something Lobo did in L.E.G.I.O.N). than absolutely freakin yes. Stellar mass >>>>>>>>>> planet busting strength

Lobo could beat these two drunk just like he did the JLA, Superman, Captain Marvel, and L.E.G.I.O.N.
He never beat JLA AFAIK, Superman was mindcontrolled in AOS 464 and has oneshot KTFO Lobo since, Cap was weakened in WOG. Lobo does win but its not just because of pure strength. His HF is his trump card here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He never beat JLA AFAIK, Superman was mindcontrolled in AOS 464 and has oneshot KTFO Lobo since, Cap was weakened in WOG. Lobo does win but its not just because of pure strength. His HF is his trump card here.

It was JLI now that i think about it. When he was pursuing a contract on Despero IIRC. The group included MMH, Booster, Beelte, Fire, Ice, WW and oberon in Ultron's body IIRC.


Not sure what you mean by WOG, but the instance I recall I can't remember anything about Billy being weakened. Billy was on a planet that Lobo had just been on a bender in a bar and he interupted his drinking session and Lobo smacked him around some. There wasn't any clear winner but Cap was on the receiving end of most of it (thoug not really damaged much).

I don't reacal Clark bing mind controlled in this one.
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/lobo/2193526-superman_vs_lobo.jpg.html?sort=3&o=19
. Granted it's the worst writing ever because NO WAY should Lobo blitz Clark.
The only one I recall of Supes one shotting Lobo was when Eclispo had control of him. IIRC Phase made some comment about never having seen Lobo in that bad of shape.

Originally posted by beatboks
It was JLI now that i think about it. When he was pursuing a contract on Despero IIRC. The group included MMH, Booster, Beelte, Fire, Ice, WW and oberon in Ultron's body IIRC. I don't remember him beating JLI. Its a long time since I've read that series though.


It was revealed later that Cap was weakened.

http://i.imgur.com/ViFBQMr.jpg

Eradicator was mindcontrolling him at that moment.
He also knocked him and Lar Gand here.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/teams/AdventuresOfAnnual02c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/teams/AdventuresOfAnnual02d.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/teams/AdventuresOfAnnual02e.jpg

Written by Dan Jurgens who wrote AOS 464 too.

Man. Some REALLY OLD arguments being hashed out here.
1. Why would Supes being Mind Controlled by something called THE ERADICATOR weaken him?
2. That page reveals that Cap was weakened AFTER He fought with LOBO *a fight which at best can be called a draw* by being dragged back.
And the scans from that Superman Annula with Legion Guest app-ing..Cause on the next page. It doesn't show either Lar or LOBO being KNOCKED OUT! Only Lar appears weakened by the blow. Not LOBO! Its called CONTEXT. Try showing all of it next time not just the bits you want to push your theory.
And the ONLY TIME Supes has been shown to K.O LOBO was when he was MIND CONTROLLED by Eclipso. A being that was CLEARY shown to be able to AMP a person's power levels.
Hell. Supes didn't even K.O LOBO when he was undergoing that Sun Dipped Out of control Power surge after his death.

Fact.
LOBO can take WM and Namor in a fight.
End.

Originally posted by carver9
Team stomps how about dat lobo stomp
http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130219202129/video-game-championship-wrestling/images/b/b9/GoombaStomp.gif

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Man. Some REALLY OLD arguments being hashed out here.
1. Why would Supes being Mind Controlled by something called THE ERADICATOR weaken him? Because it did? Superman was struggling with ****ing Draaga at that point?
Can you read? It was stated that the spells which created his body were weakening as soon as roman gods controlled him which was before he and diana fought.
What the **** are you talking about? They were shown after some time and the fight ended right there. Why would someone like Lobo would stop fighting when nothing happened to him? Not to mention he wanted revenge on Superman for bashing his head in Legion annual.
And who was stated to weaken by Superman's powers.

http://i.imgur.com/K9jbIig.jpg

He wasn't trying to and his powers were just on a small surge at that point. Etrigan has KOED Lobo FFS.

He can. No doubt about it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because it did? Superman was struggling with ****ing Draaga at that point?
Can you read? It was stated that the spells which created his body were weakening as soon as roman gods controlled him which was before he and diana fought.
What the **** are you talking about? They were shown after some time and the fight ended right there. Why would someone like Lobo would stop fighting when nothing happened to him? Not to mention he wanted revenge on Superman for bashing his head in Legion annual.
And who was stated to weaken by Superman's powers.

http://i.imgur.com/K9jbIig.jpg

He wasn't trying to and his powers were just on a small surge at that point. Etrigan has KOED Lobo FFS.

He can. No doubt about it.


Ohhh nice colar scheme...uhhh I don't even know where to start...I need a beer or 5 first. Imight get back to this.

Originally posted by carver9
That still doesn't mean he is taking out this squad. Namor has had the advantage over the fantastic four, stalemate Black Bolt (was winning), stalemate Thor, defeated Hulk, stalemate Void Sentry, Hercules, etc, etc...

Just saw this so,,,,,,What? When did he stalemate Void Sentry? Was that when Sentry was thrashing him around the city and Namor was unable to mount any offense at all? Sorry, but if Sentry would have continued, Namor was going to die. When did just surviving a fight constitute as a stalemate?