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Who wins?

Depends if Danny can resist soul stealing

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Depends if Danny can resist soul stealing Danny wins because he has way too much soul power

Batman vs 1000 iron fist what the ****

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Batman vs 1000 iron fist what the ****

Never change.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Batman vs 1000 iron fist what the **** Very true.

Not even a million Batmen equal 1 Danny.

Batman 1million stomps. kmc is really wanking that yellow zoro guy he? iron fist is nothing more than another street MA guy same as daredevil and shang chi, only difference is he got the iron fist. Batman will beat the crap out of him. this is batman 1 million and i am sure half of the people here doesnt know the huge gap between him and regular batman.

Originally posted by JuggernautMania
Batman 1million stomps. kmc is really wanking that yellow zoro guy he? iron fist is nothing more than another street MA guy same as daredevil and shang chi, only difference is he got the iron fist. Batman will beat the crap out of him. this is batman 1 million and i am sure half of the people here doesnt know the huge gap between him and regular batman. we all know the huge gap. We also know that Danny stomps his face into the dirt.

Totally agree. Danny phucking stomps.

The iron fist trolling is strong in this thread.

Danny isnt just a guy with one meta level attack lol. He can heal himself with chi, shoot chi blasts, amp himself, etc.

And that one meta level attacks happens to be able to down a helicarrier, put down class 50+ people and kill a Thor cyborg clone(with help on momentum from spidey of course).

Batman.

Daniel Rand not only beats him, but rules Pluto.

Originally posted by JuggernautMania

he designed a devince in his suit which enables him teleport , which means batman 1 million can teleport

It doesn't mean that, at all.

Batman gets fisted

Lol at NVR in this thread, I mean juggernaut mania

Batman

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It doesn't mean that, at all.



Lol

Just because you create a teleportation device that allows you to teleport does not mean you can teleport. That's ABC logic if I ever heard it.

wtf? whats wrong with people? batman 1 million can teleport via a teleportation device he designed in his batsuit. he teleported on panel. he will just teleport and beat the crap out of danny via superior skills. hell he can just mind rape dany and thats it or steal his soul. but people here are too biased and 1 dimensional. people see that iron fist has a powerful attack that can destroy a train or what ever and they go like "wooooo HI PUNCHZ HARD" and thats all they need for their opinion.

Would a strong spirit denote a strong mind?

Originally posted by JuggernautMania
wtf? whats wrong with people? batman 1 million can teleport via a teleportation device he designed in his batsuit. he teleported on panel. he will just teleport and beat the crap out of danny via superior skills. hell he can just mind rape dany and thats it or steal his soul. but people here are too biased and 1 dimensional. people see that iron fist has a powerful attack that can destroy a train or what ever and they go like "wooooo HI PUNCHZ HARD" and thats all they need for their opinion. When was the last time that you seriously looked at Danny's feats (serious question, not an insult)? The Iron Fist is a mid/ high herald level attack (destroying a speeding bullet train full of bombs, ragdolling Skaar, oneshotting Ragnarok, oneshotting Colossus, punching through a helicarrier, etc.). IIRC, Danny has a healing factor to help keep him in the fight, can use his chi to make ranged attacks, was in Spider-man's level of speed and agility before he got his recent upgrades, he has mastered a technique that vastly increases his awareness and intelligence, can hypnotize people, can make ordinary objects even more deadly with the use of his chi, and he's one of the top martial artists in Marvel. Danny has beaten characters that can teleport before. Tell me this, has this version of Batman ever used his soul stealing on a character that's an Immortal Weapon with the added chi of another Immortal Weapon and the added augmentation of Agamoto?

In one corner you have a character that has a wealth of feats and showings while, in the other, you have a David Cain-esque character who has next to no on panel feats.

LOL Danny doesn't mid/high herald attacks lol.

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
LOL Danny doesn't mid/high herald attacks lol. I didn't say that his normal attacks are mid/ high herald. I said the actual punch of the Iron Fist is a mid/ high herald level attack (smacking around Skaar, oneshotting Ragnarok, oneshotting Colossus, punching through a helicarrier. etc).

Lol high/mid heralds can bust planets so no.

Erm...mid-heralds can't.

Cant Gladiator destroy a planet? or is he high herald?

High Herald.

Well Iron fist hasn't even shown low herald abilities. He is high meta IMO. I think Deathslash is wanking to hard.

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
Well Iron fist hasn't even shown low herald abilities. He is high meta IMO. I think Deathslash is wanking to hard. I'm saying that his best attack is in the mid herald range while, physically, he's in the mid meta tier. That isn't very hard to believe if you look at his average feats. I'm wanking the exact right amount.

So if he where to unleash his best attack against Martian manhunter, he could harm him?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
High Herald.

That'd be the first high herald who gets stabbed in the most embarrassing way, with the spear blade protruding from his left buttock

Oh wait, that's easily one of the most embarrassing moments in comics in general...

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
So if he where to unleash his best attack against Martian manhunter, he could harm him? If by harm you mean erase him from existence, yes.

Lord Rand wouldn't need to waste his best attack on someone like Martian Manjobber.

Originally posted by Mindset
If by harm you mean erase him from existence, yes. Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Lord Rand wouldn't need to waste his best attack on someone like Martian Manjobber. I love you guys.

Lord rand would be overwhelmed with the batavatars.

Originally posted by deathslash
When was the last time that you seriously looked at Danny's feats (serious question, not an insult)? The Iron Fist is a mid/ high herald level attack (destroying a speeding bullet train full of bombs, ragdolling Skaar, oneshotting Ragnarok, oneshotting Colossus, punching through a helicarrier, etc.). IIRC, Danny has a healing factor to help keep him in the fight, can use his chi to make ranged attacks, was in Spider-man's level of speed and agility before he got his recent upgrades, he has mastered a technique that vastly increases his awareness and intelligence, can hypnotize people, can make ordinary objects even more deadly with the use of his chi, and he's one of the top martial artists in Marvel. Danny has beaten characters that can teleport before. Tell me this, has this version of Batman ever used his soul stealing on a character that's an Immortal Weapon with the added chi of another Immortal Weapon and the added augmentation of Agamoto?

In one corner you have a character that has a wealth of feats and showings while, in the other, you have a David Cain-esque character who has next to no on panel feats.

wow this is just way too dumb. a high herald attack can crush a planet. can the iron fist crush a planet? you are wanking way too much and too hard. a mid herald level attack can level a whole city. can the iron fist level a whole city? lets get back to some proportions ok? the iron fist attack is perhaps as powerful as a full optic blast from cyclops. i would call it a mid - high meta attack thats it.
yeah yeah we get it that danny basically has a chi manipulation, guess what? shang chi has it as well and he did some really ipressive things with his chi vs gorgon, did it help him too much? being able to manipulate chi doesnt mean too much when you are outclassed.
iron fist does not have the abilities of spider man. every single street like daredevil, shang chi, iron fist and even wolverine were able to somewhat match spidy in a fight. thats a load of BS and PIS. spidy is always holding back and not even using 80% of his abilities vs them. when spidy is serious no street can even touch him and this a fact.

now lets look at this that way. average batman will be able to match shang chi, if we use your logic then by skills daredevil and any other street basically stelmated iron fist many times. batman by skills is a match for him. batman 1 million humiliated average batman and is considered the second best fighter in the entire DC universe second to karate kid. now aside of that fact the guy can teleport, make clones of himself. mind rape and sould steal. show me shang chi being resistant to a mind rape. batman 1 million telepathic ability is that great that when he and superman 1 million were in a time loop he was the first one to recognize that and notify superman 1 million about it. the fact alone he was able to recognize it before super freakin 1 million speaks very loudly of his telepathic abilities.

iron fist gets mind raped' soul stolen, or simply getting his ass handed to him by batman 1 million. and i am 99% sure that most of the people who vote for danny didnt read much about the 1 million universe.

Danny used his Fist/chi to contain an explosion powerful enough to destroy a city.

To be perfectly frank I won't recommend a feat war while defending the 1m versions as they are as a collective very short on feats.

Also comparing Shang to Danny is like comparing Lois to Bruce in detective skills... It's possible but you kinda sound like an idiot.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Danny used his Fist/chi to contain an explosion powerful enough to destroy a city.

To be perfectly frank I won't recommend a feat war while defending the 1m versions as they are as a collective very short on feats.

Also comparing Shang to Danny is like comparing Lois to Bruce in detective skills... It's possible but you kinda sound like an idiot.

are you claiming iron fist can destroy a city with the iron fist? please provide the evidence to that.

its not a matter of who got more feats its the quality. iron fist got more feats than TOAA ... so ?

no. the only one who may sound as an idiot is the one who thinks there is that much of a gap in skills between shang chi and iron fist. thats just retarded and pure wankage.

Originally posted by JuggernautMania
are you claiming iron fist can destroy a city with the iron fist? please provide the evidence to that.

its not a matter of who got more feats its the quality. iron fist got more feats than TOAA ... so ?

no. the only one who may sound as an idiot is the one who thinks there is that much of a gap in skills between shang chi and iron fist. thats just retarded and pure wankage.

He's claiming that IF used his...ah hell, here's the quote.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He's claiming that IF used his...ah hell, here's the quote.

hyperbole. and even if so it does not mean he can destroy a city with his iron fist. unless we see on panel feat of him destroying a city or something equal to a city he cant do it. lets say 1 person can punch much harder than the other. the weaker one used his hand to catch the other guys punch cool, doesnt mean he can punch as the same guy.

Originally posted by JuggernautMania
hyperbole. and even if so it does not mean he can destroy a city with his iron fist. unless we see on panel feat of him destroying a city or something equal to a city he cant do it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/KungFu2025_zps84707db1.jpg

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Not a city.

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
Not a city.

"It's like someone dropped an H-bomb on the city"

Not city buster though.

Well no that's because IF doesn't go around destroying cities. He's a hero.

You might as well argue Batman lacks the strength to snap someone's neck, as he's never done it on panel.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well no that's because IF doesn't go around destroying cities. He's a hero.

You might as well argue Batman lacks the strength to snap someone's neck, as he's never done it on panel.

And besides, why do we need to prove IF can bust a city against Batman 1m here?

Especially when team Bat's showed zip.

Val Armorr or even Mantis, Batman 1m is not.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well no that's because IF doesn't go around destroying cities. He's a hero.

You might as well argue Batman lacks the strength to snap someone's neck, as he's never done it on panel.

That has to be one of the less inteligent points someone has ever made. so next thing lets prove spider man cant destroy a city with a punch. i mean he always holds back and doesnt want to destroy the city and all. facts are iron fist never presented a feat of destroying a city or destroying something similar in mass to a city, therefor he cant destroy a city until proved otherwise.
batman has feats supressing snaping a neck. therefor its dumb to asume he cant when he can easily break metal chains and walls.

Originally posted by JuggernautMania
That has to be one of the less inteligent points someone has ever made. so next thing lets prove spider man cant destroy a city with a punch. i mean he always holds back and doesnt want to destroy the city and all. facts are iron fist never presented a feat of destroying a city or destroying something similar in mass to a city, therefor he cant destroy a city until proved otherwise.
batman has feats supressing snaping a neck. therefor its dumb to asume he cant when he can easily break metal chains and walls.

Batman 1 Million has these feats?

I'm not sure what definition of "city busting" Juggs is using, but the fact he's brushing aside scans of Iron Fist basically dropping an H bomb on a city as not uber enough is pretty laughable.

Also, good job making a case for Batman 1mil. Lets just derail the thread and minimize any feat Iron Fist supporters have, post nothing in response, and declare victory. That's not how debating works.

Wouldn't waste any more time on the contrarian, DarkSaint.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Batman 1 Million has these feats?

batman 1 million is superior to batman therefor he can do what ever batman can and much more.

Originally posted by cdtm
I'm not sure what definition of "city busting" Juggs is using, but the fact he's brushing aside scans of Iron Fist basically dropping an H bomb on a city as not uber enough is pretty laughable.

Also, good job making a case for Batman 1mil. Lets just derail the thread and minimize any feat Iron Fist supporters have, post nothing in response, and declare victory. That's not how debating works.

Wouldn't waste any more time on the contrarian, DarkSaint.

its hyperbole. show me iron fist destroying a city or concede of him not being able to.

Originally posted by JuggernautMania
batman 1 million is superior to batman therefor he can do what ever batman can and much more.

Hyperbole.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hyperbole.

shown on panel by feats.

He caught him by surprise with the equivalent of a sucker punch, and upgraded the Batcomputer. Wow.

However, he wasn't able to come up with tactics to beat Solaris. It was Batman (Bruce) who came up with using Wally to out think him.

So based on the 1M storyline alone, let alone Bruce's other feats, Bruce is tactically smarter than B1M.

Any strength feats to show how much stronger B1M was? Agility? Combat speed? Endurance? Skills?

I mean, I know he had the psychic martial arts of the octopi, but was he any better in say, punching? What was his damage soak like?

If anything, I think Batman wins due to his gear/tech. It's just too much.

Originally posted by Golgo13
If anything, I think Batman wins due to his gear/tech. It's just too much.

Not if Iron Fist rushes him down before he can use it.

And Batman 1mil simply wasn't around long enough to establish many feats, so really nothing to claim he's a bullet timer.

Also, those scans I posted were a city block of buildings reduced to rubble. If that's not a city busting feat, the art clearly shows he bombed well within the arena starting distance.

Originally posted by cdtm
Not if Iron Fist rushes him down before he can use it.

And Batman 1mil simply wasn't around long enough to establish many feats, so really nothing to claim he's a bullet timer.

Also, those scans I posted were a city block of buildings reduced to rubble. If that's not a city busting feat, the art clearly shows he bombed well within the arena starting distance. so what you're saying is that I was right when I said that the Iron Fist is a mid herald level attack.

1 million Spite

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He caught him by surprise with the equivalent of a sucker punch, and upgraded the Batcomputer. Wow.

However, he wasn't able to come up with tactics to beat Solaris. It was Batman (Bruce) who came up with using Wally to out think him.

So based on the 1M storyline alone, let alone Bruce's other feats, Bruce is tactically smarter than B1M.

Any strength feats to show how much stronger B1M was? Agility? Combat speed? Endurance? Skills?

I mean, I know he had the psychic martial arts of the octopi, but was he any better in say, punching? What was his damage soak like?

he was superior to batman as was shown on panel and stated. aside of that in the 1 million supersize 80 page issue, batman owned OWAC with a punch, OWAC is a kryptonian female. so basically batman 1 million owned a kryptonian with a punch. that stomps everything iron fist ever done, too bad i forgot about this feat before because it could end this discussion much earlier.

really? and batman 1 million came up with a tactic for superman 1 million himself, the brainiac 5 level intelectual who can calculate billion scenes in a second. who was even able to calculate for how long the JLA 1 Million would be able to whitstand the Else men. the writer did not intend for it to portray what you stated because batman 1 million is just superior to batman in every single way.

as i said before, second most skilled individual in DC universe, superior to batman to the point he can knock out a kryptonian, has much higher tech which includes soul stealing, flight, teleportration and most importantly telepathy to the point he can mind rape.

mind rape, superior skills, punching power that can KO kryptonian = batman 1 million stomps.

Originally posted by JuggernautMania
he was superior to batman as was shown on panel and stated. aside of that in the 1 million supersize 80 page issue, batman owned OWAC with a punch, OWAC is a kryptonian female. so basically batman 1 million owned a kryptonian with a punch. that stomps everything iron fist ever done, too bad i forgot about this feat before because it could end this discussion much earlier.

really? and batman 1 million came up with a tactic for superman 1 million himself, the brainiac 5 level intelectual who can calculate billion scenes in a second. who was even able to calculate for how long the JLA 1 Million would be able to whitstand the Else men. the writer did not intend for it to portray what you stated because batman 1 million is just superior to batman in every single way.

as i said before, second most skilled individual in DC universe, superior to batman to the point he can knock out a kryptonian, has much higher tech which includes soul stealing, flight, teleportration and most importantly telepathy to the point he can mind rape.

mind rape, superior skills, punching power that can KO kryptonian = batman 1 million stomps.

Batman 1M came up with a tactic for Superman 1M.

Batman1M> Superman 1M
Solaris came up with a tactic for the entire JLA1M, Batman and Superman included.
Solaris> Batman 1M AND Superman 1M
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.....
......

Bruce Wayne came up with tactics against Solaris.
Bruce> Solaris > Batman1M > Superman 1M.

In a direct comparison of tactics.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Batman 1M came up with a tactic for Superman 1M.

Batman1M> Superman 1M
Solaris came up with a tactic for the entire JLA1M, Batman and Superman included.
Solaris> Batman 1M AND Superman 1M
....
.....
......

Bruce Wayne came up with tactics against Solaris.
Bruce> Solaris > Batman1M > Superman 1M.

In a direct comparison of tactics.

nop it doesnt work that way. superman 1 million can calculate billion scenes in a second. he is as smart as brainiac 5 and during the entire 1 million run he knew what to do and came up with the strategies. in hourman 1 million he outsmarted everyone and came up with plans batman could never thing off. what happened in this one was that batman 1 million while traped with superman 1 million in a time loop realized before superman 1 million that they were trapped. at the very best we could say his telepathic tech is great but it has nothing to do with brains.