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I'll link this playlist:

It's important to understand where the world is at. Plus after the serious stuff there's some neat music, sci-fi, and fantasy related to corruption, greed, and the madness of the modern world. The end of the playlist is Leto II, the Dune series, I think, is very relevant to modern day issues.

We actually need someone powerful enough to take down our system and install a new society where education, housing, and food supply are autonomously self-sustaining, and therefore completely free of charge. The career is completely up to anyone, without really even needing to be in any career in particular at all.

We have the technological capacity to design self-sustaining systems and make that possible.

Cities, farms, infrastructure, factories, the whole grid would be completely different in design, appearance, and function, they'd have to be to allow complete autonomy.

Post-modern super-computers and memristors would have to do the math for this whole new grid - to keep it maintained.

This is complete freedom because required labor to stay under a roof become eliminated, and careers, actual careers, shift from being competitive, dead-lined, and cut-throat (along with the education and apprenticeship necessary to get in to any career) to completely at-your-own-pace and any position would be open to every single person who has developed the skills at their own pace.

So this is not a pushed or pressured lifestyle for anyone. That kind of society possible, I'm telling you right now. You need to know that with a sudden and radical, non-hostile, deconstruction of the entire modern world as we know it, such a society could be constructed in its place.

The longer we stay in this societal system, the worse it will become - no matter how much business or technology can improve our lives it is completely obstructed due to policy.

You talk about how science improves life? Science has already proven the superiority of a green-anarchy and 100% self-automated infrastructure; yet it can't do anything unless it's implemented. Scientific understanding is completely useless unless it is applied.

Do it now, not later.

There are tons of reasons we can't re-engineer modern society in such a way. There's nationality, capitalism, communism, etc etc etc etc etc. We need someone to conquer the earth. The Alexander of Macedon of the modern world, the Leto Atreides II.

What are your thoughts on an autonomous infrastructure? Of course you'd have to assume some things on the practicality of such a society unless you have a broad knowledge of industry on a vast level.

Of course there's still order, it's not like a complete anarchy or anything. It's more like a localized anarchy, deciding policy relative to the local community across the globe. Even in governmental agencies there's no way for like the legislative branch to overcome other branches more suited for their areas of policy, the main thing is that changes can't be made in such a way to jeopardize the corrupt-free system for greed and personal gain.

Although that will always be possible, greed's effects will be utterly minimized to the maximum capacities of technology and science.

This is better for the earth's environment, better for the population, for humanity, our living standards, equality, liberty, everything.

I think you need to be put down, and your death doesn't need to be investigated.

I think peoples lifestyle choices are their own to make. We can try to help along the way but the person has to want to make the right choice.
I wouldn't listen to the guy above me.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
I think peoples lifestyle choices are their own to make. We can try to help along the way but the person has to want to make the right choice.
I wouldn't listen to the guy above me. I think he just got dumped.

The entropy of the universe always increases over time. That means a truly self sustaining system can never exist. There must always be some energy being added to the system. Also, any system must always be repaired to counter act the increase of entropy within that system.

The assumptions made in the OP are not realistic because they do not take into account entropy.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The entropy of the universe always increases over time. That means a truly self sustaining system can never exist. There must always be some energy being added to the system. Also, any system must always be repaired to counter act the increase of entropy within that system.

I agree but that wouldn't necessarily require the removal of complete autonomy of the information systems are efficient enough to command the proper instructions to all working equipment and energy facilities to improve the autonomy of information and infrastructural systems that compose this emergent industrial complex.

It's still getting better at maintaining itself overtime.


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In the 80's, there were a lot of amoral inheritors of vast sums wealth.

I wouldn't be surprised if they paid armies of hardware and software specialists and engineers to design and construct maybe a hundred factories worth of super-computers.

Programmed to maximize profit for an x number of corporate elites at any cost whilst maintaining these elites actually could have triangularly maintained anonymity. Now operating through complete opacity....

The computer algorithms probably calculated the profit of American occupancy of Iran, and the likelihood of support if the WTC towers went.

It's a true case of Atlas Shrugged.

If one army of geniuses built their own equivocal system, designed instead to corrupt and assume access their system's network - they could become our bitches.

And they will, their network security specialists won't keep me out. And I'm vindictive and abnormally cruel person. I used to lock...never-mind. I want revenge if they're out there. Victorious, brutal, megalomaniacal retribution.

We're talking about organized crime, like tens of families, each the wealth equivalents of like the freaking Rothchilds. This'd be a syndicate that would make the United States Government, with all their military strength and global influence, shit themselves like a small town community's local law enforcement facing the occupancy of the biggest baddest drug cartel ever. Everyone is officer of the law, every lawyer, every judge, every boss in town is completely paid off.

The families have higher net-worth than our eniter country, gasp.

They made mistakes though, they are becoming too reliant on buying off smart people, the smartest and most Empirical of Man, to quote the Iliad, "The Best of Man"; in genetic stalk they don't even recognize as such. They won't eliminate him, they won't buy him, because they don't see him and what he is doing. They think they do, but he is up in the light, and they are down in the dark.

They're making mistakes now, they're clumsy, and they're too dependent on information that they can't even understand. But this guy comprehends it, I've never seen anyone like him.

All these people seem pretty smart? This dude I'm talking about can do anything they can do, better than them within 5,000 hours refinement. It's crazy.

What's scary is that this guy is a megalomaniac, and he sees them as the ultimate competition. Dude makes me tremble.