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Superman- Sundipped OWAW

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VS

The Worthy

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Clark is in the murderous mindset of OWAW.

1)BFR allowed
2) No BFR

Clears

Absorbing man solos.

Supes.

Supes

He oneshot kills Nul for sure.

mmm

Superman gets wrecked.

Somehow Thor dies though.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He oneshot kills Nul for sure.

mmm Wrong.

Originally posted by carver9
Absorbing man solos.

FILTHY LIES!

Originally posted by carver9
Absorbing man solos.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
FILTHY LIES!

Is this a gauntlet? An 8 on 1?

Originally posted by pym-ftw

Nope, he would get overloaded at this power level.

Superman takes it. imo

Originally posted by -Pr-
Is this a gauntlet? An 8 on 1?

8 on 1

A gauntlet seems interesting as well so feel free to add it.

Kuurth is a big problem here. I say stalemate here (superman avoids getting hit for the most part).

Superman is crazy powerful and can handily beat the shit out of them (Aside from Nul/Kuurth probably) but like mentioned, Absorbing Man is a real issue. While logically his absorbing capabilities should be amped up as well, I don't think that was ever mentioned. If the power up at least negates his lower end showings, he alone can cut Superman's power in half if not more. From there on, the Worthy are going to pull a Digi on Clark imo.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Superman is crazy powerful and can handily beat the shit out of them (Aside from Nul/Kuurth probably) but like mentioned, Absorbing Man is a real issue. While logically his absorbing capabilities should be amped up as well, I don't think that was ever mentioned. If the power up at least negates his lower end showings, he alone can cut Superman's power in half if not more. From there on, the Worthy are going to pull a Digi on Clark imo.
Or this happens.Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope, he would get overloaded at this power level.

And @ Nul being able to survive here. Kal would punch a hole through his head and beat the shit out of Kuurth.

Are you gonna argue that Dazzler bs? Creel also absorbed par of a cosmic cube & a portion of Asgard.

Worthy Creel was shown to be able to recall things he had absorbed in the past.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Are you gonna argue that Dazzler bs? Creel also absorbed par of a cosmic cube & a portion of Asgard.

Worthy Creel was shown to be able to recall things he had absorbed in the past.
Eh, he has been overloaded several times. By Quasar, By Sentry and By Dazzler of course.

Absorbing a silver of cosmic cube and part of asgard is all good but it doesn't means he could take on sundipped Superman.

That's why he had troubles with Hank Pym of all people?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Or this happens.

And @ Nul being able to survive here. Kal would punch a hole through his head and beat the shit out of Kuurth.

Creel can better regulate the control of his powers.

Instead of trying to absorb the totality of Clark's power and being overloaded, he might only go for half and seriously tip the scales such as against the Sentry.

Not to mention those are his low end portrayals, AND this is Worthy Absorbing Man.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Creel can better regulate the control of his powers.

Instead of trying to absorb the totality of Clark's power and being overloaded, he might only go for half and seriously tip the scales such as against the Sentry.

Not to mention those are his low end portrayals, AND this is Worthy Absorbing Man.
So we're going by high end portrayals only?

Also getting overloaded by Black Bolt's scream isn't a low end portrayal, in your hurry you forgot that. Neither is overloaded by Sentry or Quasar.

The feats of Worthy Absorbing Man where he looked better than his regular self? Absorbing Man is a special brand of loser, he will always find a way to lose. Gaining a hammer doesn't changes that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So we're going by high end portrayals only?

Also getting overloaded by Black Bolt's scream isn't a low end portrayal, in your hurry you forgot that. Neither is overloaded by Sentry or Quasar.

Seeing as how this is OWAW Sundipped Superman, that wouldn't be unfair.

But no, I personally don't prefer going only by high end portrayals. However, your reply to my post was to list off a bunch of less then stellar feats and just to right off Absorbing Man, which is the definition of lowballing imo.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The feats of Worthy Absorbing Man where he looked better than his regular self?

I don't need to. He had a magical Asgardian hammer that amped his abilities and even made him more intelligent to an extent.

Although that's the same kind of sketchy logic that Carver uses for Nul and the Hulk which you have no problem dismissing in another thread.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Absorbing Man is a special brand of loser, he will always find a way to lose. Gaining a hammer doesn't changes that.

That's not even an argument. You're saying he sucks iyo so he'll lose. Wtf is that shit? Not to mention he's part of a team and all he has to do is decrease Superman's power levels sufficiently so that they can steamroll him.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Supes.

Originally posted by Mindset
Superman gets wrecked.

Somehow Thor dies though.

Originally posted by abhilegend


That's why he had troubles with Hank Pym of all people?

I don't have scans of the fight in Avengers Mansion but Hank Pym hardly gave him trouble:
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1129/amvspym.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8586/amvspym2.jpg
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2366/amvspym3.jpg
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/8579/amvspym04.jpg
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7199/amvspym5.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5486/amvspym6.jpg
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/208/amvspym7.jpg
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/5226/amvspym8.jpg
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/108/amvspym9.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6802/amvspym010.jpg

And he's a power absorber so it doesn't really matter.

Superman wrecks them.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Superman is crazy powerful and can handily beat the shit out of them (Aside from Nul/Kuurth probably) but like mentioned, Absorbing Man is a real issue. While logically his absorbing capabilities should be amped up as well, I don't think that was ever mentioned. If the power up at least negates his lower end showings, he alone can cut Superman's power in half if not more. From there on, the Worthy are going to pull a Digi on Clark imo. I only know a little of AM. Does he absorb beams of energy? Clark having basic knowledge should know not to touch him and use long ranged attacks.

I think Kuurth is the problem cause I'm not sure if Superman can get past his durability. Plus Kuurth heals instantly (in case the impossible happens lol leave me alone Rage).

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Seeing as how this is OWAW Sundipped Superman, that wouldn't be unfair. Superman doesn't have any low showings in OWAW.

Lowballing? Creel is an idiot who loses everytime he faces any hero. Sue Storm has beaten him via fists FFS.



It amped his absorption powers? Proof.

I have no problem saying the hammer amped Creel's physical powers like it did to everybody, but to say it increased his absorption powers is stretching at best.



You mean like he did against everybody he has fought? CIS is still in play. Or Superman starts tearing everybody apart before Creel could even touch him. He has general knowledge about him of course.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't have scans of the fight in Avengers Mansion but Hank Pym hardly gave him trouble:
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1129/amvspym.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8586/amvspym2.jpg
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2366/amvspym3.jpg
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/8579/amvspym04.jpg
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7199/amvspym5.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5486/amvspym6.jpg
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/208/amvspym7.jpg
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/5226/amvspym8.jpg
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/108/amvspym9.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6802/amvspym010.jpg

And he's a power absorber so it doesn't really matter.
So feats and portrayals don't matter at all? Gotcha.

The worthy wins this!

Originally posted by the Darkone
The worthy wins this!
No! No! No!

Originally posted by abhilegend
So feats and portrayals don't matter at all? Gotcha.

dude, shut up.

Originally posted by -Pr-
dude, shut up.


Where did that come from?

^Because what you posted was just bullshit strawman crap like a lot of your posts. That's not remotely what I said. Smh.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman doesn't have any low showings in OWAW.

What does that have to do with what I said? So it's okay to lowball Absorbing Man because Superman doesn't have any low showings? Not to mention you're referencing instances when he wasn't a Worthy. Do I get to post non-sundipped low showings?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Lowballing? Creel is an idiot who loses everytime he faces any hero. Sue Storm has beaten him via fists FFS.

1) Not true.

2) A large reason is his intelligence, which is amped here.

3) Irrelevant as he's not a Worthy.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It amped his absorption powers? Proof.

I have no problem saying the hammer amped Creel's physical powers like it did to everybody, but to say it increased his absorption powers is stretching at best.

But you have a problem assuming it amped his absorption powers like it amped Juggernaut's unstoppable enchantment, Attuma's water powers, Grey Gargoyle's stone powers, Thing and Hulk's physical strength?

What a bunch of nonsense. And I'm not even saying it had to have made them stronger, just invalidate his lower end portrayals.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You mean like he did against everybody he has fought? CIS is still in play. Or Superman starts tearing everybody apart before Creel could even touch him. He has general knowledge about him of course.



More bullshit lowballing involving regular Absorbing Man. And I'm sure Creel is just going to stand around with his thumb up his ass.

You keep bringing up CIS but it's not relevant in this thread. I'm not saying Creel has to solo Superman. He just has to drain his powers sufficiently. Even everyday dumbass Creel can accomplish that much with 6 other people attacking.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
^Because what you posted was just bullshit strawman crap like a lot of your posts. That's not remotely what I said. Smh. That's exactly what you said.



The difference is that Creel doesn't gets the benefit that all of his powers were amped. His main power, absorbing powers wasn't amped. So, no its not comparable at all. And I'm not lowballing Creel. Lowballing would be random characters beating his ass.



Really? Name a hero he beat recently or in last decade.

Means very little.

I know. Its just to show his general incompetency.



Yes. Everyone's powers were shown to be enhanced. Not even alluded in Creel's case IIRC.

But it wouldn't change his overloading showings. Worthy Creel has no showings which allude that he could take on sundipped superman.



More strawmanning. He may as well, superman is going to rip him apart like he did to B13.

He can't. This version of superman is going to overload his powers without much problem. Those 6 would get their heads punched off saved maybe Kuurth. You always had a problem regarding how powerful this version of Superman was. This isn't regular superman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's exactly what you said.

The difference is that Creel doesn't gets the benefit that all of his powers were amped. His main power, absorbing powers wasn't amped. So, no its not comparable at all. And I'm not lowballing Creel. Lowballing would be random characters beating his ass.

And that is why Pr told you to shut up. If you can't tell the difference between what I said, and what you said, then you need help.

So all of Creel's attributes were amped EXCEPT his main power? When everyone else (Hulk, Sin, Attuma, Grey Gargoyle, Juggernaut, Titania) had all their other main attributes amped?

What nonsense. This is no different from Carver's, "Null wasn't amped" argument.


Originally posted by abhilegend
Really? Name a hero he beat recently or in last decade.

Means very little.

I know. Its just to show his general incompetency.

Sentry. Thor.

No, it means a great deal because as noted in that very same comic, it was his intelligence that always hindered him. You directly reference his incompetence when that is a direct result of his intelligence. Which is amped here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes. Everyone's powers were shown to be enhanced. Not even alluded in Creel's case IIRC.

But it wouldn't change his overloading showings. Worthy Creel has no showings which allude that he could take on sundipped superman.

Actually it flat out said that the Serpent hammers augmented the powers of their wielders, making them unstoppable in a number of recaps.

Originally posted by abhilegend
More strawmanning. He may as well, superman is going to rip him apart like he did to B13.

He can't. This version of superman is going to overload his powers without much problem. Those 6 would get their heads punched off saved maybe Kuurth. You always had a problem regarding how powerful this version of Superman was. This isn't regular superman.

Lol at you accusing me of strawmanning when that and red herring is your go to tactic.

I already addressed the overloading: Creel doesn't have to absorb ALL of Superman's power and threaten overloading (Going by low end portrayals), just enough to weaken him noticeably while making himself that much more powerful, resulting in the team steamrolling him.

You probably think regular Superman could beat this team though.

Also, using your logic, you'd have to prove that anything besides Superman's strength in OWAW was amped.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
And that is why Pr told you to shut up. If you can't tell the difference between what I said, and what you said, then you need help. Eh, you always talk big rage. You don't even know why Pr said that but nice try.

I can prove it for everyone else. Can you do the same for Creel? Let's go.

That's why you're so full of it. Nul had a tons of statement saying he was amped, creel doesn't.




Sentry overloaded his ass. Thor beat him in a page and half.

That's good and dandy, but here it would matter little. Getting overloaded isn't due to being an idiot.



But they were not unstoppable and it increased their physical attributes. Post one scan where Creel's absorbing power was stated to be amped. Should be an easy task for someone like you.



LOL @ a strawman again. Keep it up.

And that's gonna happen because Superman is going to let him just absorb his power? Not that it matters though, superman would probably overload him as soon as Creel touches him.

Sure. He also oneshot kills Thor.



Haha, seriously?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Eh, you always talk big rage. You don't even know why Pr said that but nice try.

I can prove it for everyone else. Can you do the same for Creel? Let's go.

That's why you're so full of it. Nul had a tons of statement saying he was amped, creel doesn't.

You are right, I shouldn't presume to speak for Pr. My bad for that Paul.

Okay:
http://s30.postimg.org/e5p3tja69/AA_17_Oroboros_CPS_008.jpg

http://s30.postimg.org/ov7dzjbct/Av_Acad_16_Oroboros_CPS_006.jpghttp://s30.postimg.org/sdjdvxc8t/Av_Acad_16_Oroboros_CPS_008.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Sentry overloaded his ass. Thor beat him in a page and half.

That's good and dandy, but here it would matter little. Getting overloaded isn't due to being an idiot.

And then in the rematch, Creel kicked his ass. You asked for a single example, you didn't claim you wanted to compare his entire history with Thor.

Actually it is because as shown later on, he can choose how much of an energy source he absorbs, thus preventing any overloading.

Originally posted by abhilegend
But they were not unstoppable and it increased their physical attributes. Post one scan where Creel's absorbing power was stated to be amped. Should be an easy task for someone like you.

It said their powers were augmented, which is accurate as seen amongst the others. I doubt Creel is suddenly the exception to the rule.

Originally posted by abhilegend
LOL @ a strawman again. Keep it up.

And that's gonna happen because Superman is going to let him just absorb his power? Not that it matters though, superman would probably overload him as soon as Creel touches him.

All Creel has to do is get his hammer or hands near him.

Creel can control how much energy he chooses to siphon so why would he be overloaded?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Sure. He also oneshot kills Thor.



Haha, seriously?

Yup. It would be fair to assume that since his strength was amped, the rest of his abilities were increased but the same can be said about Worthy Absorbing Man. So I'd like some evidence to support every other attribute for Clark, and it not being just his strength.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You are right, I shouldn't presume to speak for Pr. My bad for that Paul.

Okay:
http://s30.postimg.org/e5p3tja69/AA_17_Oroboros_CPS_008.jpg

http://s30.postimg.org/ov7dzjbct/Av_Acad_16_Oroboros_CPS_006.jpghttp://s30.postimg.org/sdjdvxc8t/Av_Acad_16_Oroboros_CPS_008.jpg The first scan implies their powers were enhanced but Creel says it made him smarter and Quicksilver states that they were asgardians possessing their bodies. So, it is contradicted by the characters themselves? Way to go.



With the silver of cosmic cube? Way to go Creel. When did he beat Thor one on one in the last decade.

An exception isn't the norm. If he isn't getting overloaded, he would siphon so little of Superman's energy that it would matter little to him.



But Creel himself said he was smarter and that's it. How do you even augment a power like touching and absorbing the power of something?



And superman would just need to breath loudly to throw him away. You're acting like Superman has never beaten a character like Creel.

So he's just going to absorb a little of superman's energy? Why would that matter?



You're seriously asking proof that Superman's other powers gets amped when he absorbs solar power?


SMH, that's a new low even for you.

The Worthy wins this

We got it the last time you said it too.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The first scan implies their powers were enhanced but Creel says it made him smarter and Quicksilver states that they were asgardians possessing their bodies. So, it is contradicted by the characters themselves? Way to go.

The first scan outright says that their powers are enhanced.

facepalm

You're not even making any sense. How does Creel also being smarter and tougher contradict having his other powers being enhanced? He didn't say that he was ONLY smarter.

Yes, all the Worthy were being possessed by the original Worthy, why does that matter?

Originally posted by abhilegend
With the silver of cosmic cube? Way to go Creel. When did he beat Thor one on one in the last decade.

An exception isn't the norm. If he isn't getting overloaded, he would siphon so little of Superman's energy that it would matter little to him.

No, I'm referring to another rematch:
http://s30.postimg.org/kcjhwur7l/1540840_absorbingman.jpg

Except that is the latest showing he has of absorbing something that previously overloaded him. It's not Creel doing something outside of his powerset, it's him using his brains to defeat an enemy.

Which goes without saying applies here as he is more intelligent.

Originally posted by abhilegend
But Creel himself said he was smarter and that's it. How do you even augment a power like touching and absorbing the power of something?

Read the scan again:
http://s30.postimg.org/wzfi49xs1/Av_Acad_16_Oroboros_CPS_008.jpg

Creel didn't say that he was ONLY smarter. He just pointed out that it was one of the upgrades. That doesn't mean his absorbing power isn't enhanced. In a LATER issue (As I posted) it's confirmed that his powers are enhanced, not only his intelligence:
http://s30.postimg.org/e5p3tja69/AA_17_Oroboros_CPS_008.jpg

Easily. Just like everything else in comics, suspension of disbelief.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And superman would just need to breath loudly to throw him away. You're acting like Superman has never beaten a character like Creel.

So he's just going to absorb a little of superman's energy? Why would that matter?

What good would that do as Creel can simply absorb the proprieties of his freeze breath?

No, not a little. But ENOUGH. A sufficient amount to weaken Clark.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You're seriously asking proof that Superman's other powers gets amped when he absorbs solar power?


SMH, that's a new low even for you.

I'm asking you of evidence that any other superpower besides strength was augmented by him sundipping in OWAW specifically.

You asked for a specific scan of Creel being enhanced despite this clearly being the writer's intention and I complied. Superman doesn't get the benefit of the doubt.

How can you expect me to be reasonable when you harass me about the most specific of things?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus




I'm asking you of evidence that any other superpower besides strength was augmented by him sundipping in OWAW specifically].



Well for one He does not emit plasma and his touch and punches usually does not melt things at will

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Well for one He does not emit plasma and his touch and punches usually does not melt things at will

So he radiates with energy, that answers my question how? Prove that his durability, speed, and other powers enhanced. Although I hope Abhil considers this to be proof. Because that would mean Creel in his base form being an amalgamation of different elements would also be sufficient evidence of his absorption being augmented.

Now, don't get me wrong, I think it's obvious that Clark was enhanced across the board and was running on some serious solar juice but I also think it's rather obvious that Creel was amped across the board as well when he was Worthy.

However, I'm only willing to be as reasonable as the person I'm posting with.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So he radiates with energy, that answers my question how?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm asking you of evidence that any other superpower besides strength was augmented by him sundipping in OWAW specifically].

Radiating energy though parts of his body other than his eyes is an indication of "other super powers besides strength being augmented"



Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Prove that his durability, speed, and other powers enhanced.

Moving against an inperex/braniac powered full trust of war world engines at super speed is an indication of strength and speed augmentation, don't know if there is any indication of extra invulnerability but I guess that will be a given

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Although I hope Abhil considers this to be proof. Because that would mean Creel in his base form being an amalgamation of different elements would also be sufficient evidence of his absorption being augmented.

Now, don't get me wrong, I think it's obvious that Clark was enhanced across the board and was running on some serious solar juice but I also think it's rather obvious that Creel was amped across the board as well when he was Worthy.

However, I'm only willing to be as reasonable as the person I'm posting with.

I think the power jump that Superman has in this particular sundip is just to much for even an enhanced creel to absorb.

But that is just my take.

I'll get out of this debate as I have to finish my taxes

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The first scan outright says that their powers are enhanced. Yes it does. Never said otherwise.


You mean being tougher means he was enhanced in his absorption powers rather than being, you know physically tougher?



Because in every case, it enhanced their physical powers or in your terms made them tougher.



Ah, the lethal legion. But it only shows Creel taking a portion of Sentry's powers AFTER getting wrecked by him in Civil War. He has no idea of superman's power levels here.


A portion=/=whole power. So he would come back here after Superman overloads him. Good for him and you.

Good. He can read poems while he is getting disintegrated.



Their power being enhanced is Creel being tougher and smarter? How does that mean he was enhance in his absorption powers or his capability in absorbing more power than before?

Not in this case though.



For superman to vaporize him and blows him away? Good luck with that. But you're essentially saying that nobody can beat Absorbing Man here.

What would that amount be? You're just speculating here.



Seriously? Why would be sundipping in OWAW is different than all the times he gets powers from the sun?

Ah, I get it. You're being obtuse on purpose.

Harass you? LMAO. But tell me one thing, who can beat Creel here via brute power. Thor? King Thor? Rune King Thor? Imperiex? Or can nobody beat him due to him being "tougher"?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes it does. Never said otherwise.

You mean being tougher means he was enhanced in his absorption powers rather than being, you know physically tougher?



Because in every case, it enhanced their physical powers or in your terms made them tougher.

He didn't say he was ONLY tougher either. Not to mention tougher could -and most likely does- refer to an overall upgrade in powers and does not have to literally mean durability. And it was confirmed later on.

Are you saying since the Worthy possessed their hosts, they only amped their physical abilities? I'd like to point to Juggernaut's unstoppability, Attuma's water powers and the Gargoyle's stare?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Ah, the lethal legion. But it only shows Creel taking a portion of Sentry's powers AFTER getting wrecked by him in Civil War. He has no idea of superman's power levels here.

A portion=/=whole power. So he would come back here after Superman overloads him. Good for him and you.

Good. He can read poems while he is getting disintegrated..

Then it's great that the common knowledge is in play here and Absorbing Man, specifically shown by Worthy Creel, can sense energy sources and their power levels or whatever.

Again and again I've repeated this: I never said Creel is going to absorb the totality of Superman's power. I even specified that he'll only absorb a portion.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Their power being enhanced is Creel being tougher and smarter? How does that mean he was enhance in his absorption powers or his capability in absorbing more power than before?

Not in this case though.

For superman to vaporize him and blows him away? Good luck with that. But you're essentially saying that nobody can beat Absorbing Man here.

What would that amount be? You're just speculating here.

Well, for one, we saw that can he absorb multiple elements simultaneously so the idea that only his physical durability was increased is automatically proven false. Most likely, being tougher refers to his powers in totality being enhanced. As confirmed later on.

And then Creel absorbs Superman's heat vision as he tries to blast him. And so on and so forth. His powers aren't complicated. I don't understand why you're having trouble accepting that he absorbs properties of objects.

Half? Who knows. I'm not giving you an exact percentage, I'm saying he'll absorb a portion of Superman's powers to weaken him sufficiently and open him up for a beat down. Which is supported by on panel proof.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Seriously? Why would be sundipping in OWAW is different than all the times he gets powers from the sun?

Ah, I get it. You're being obtuse on purpose.

I don't know, why would Creel becoming a Worthy be any different then all the others who had their main traits enhanced?

Not being obtuse. I realize perfectly what I'm asking is unreasonable. However, I'm simply holding Superman to the standards you introduced in this thread.

So again, please post evidence supporting any of his other powers being amped by Sundipping in OWAW please.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Harass you? LMAO. But tell me one thing, who can beat Creel here via brute power. Thor? King Thor? Rune King Thor? Imperiex? Or can nobody beat him due to him being "tougher"?

You aren't even attempting to hide the strawman arguments anymore. I specifically said Creel will not be defeating Superman by himself and here you're bringing up King Thor and Imperiex?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Radiating energy though parts of his body other than his eyes is an indication of "other super powers besides strength being augmented"

According to what rule or evidence specified in OWAW?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Moving against an inperex/braniac powered full trust of war world engines at super speed is an indication of strength and speed augmentation, don't know if there is any indication of extra invulnerability but I guess that will be a given

I think the power jump that Superman has in this particular sundip is just to much for even an enhanced creel to absorb.

But that is just my take.

I'll get out of this debate as I have to finish my taxes

That indicates increased strength/power but why is speed and invulnerability a given?

You agree that Creel is enhanced? Okay, then what's the problem? I told you, I acknowledge the clear intent that Superman was powered up across the board. Abhil however refuses to accept the obvious for Absorbing Man, and I'm doing the same with Superman.

He doesn't have to absorb ALL of Superman's power, just enough of it to weaken him by a noticeable amount and give Creel a huge bump in juice.

The Worthy are too versatile in their powers and too many, I just see the Worthy winning this

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He didn't say he was ONLY tougher either. Ah, smarter means him being more powerful. How silly of me. Which confirmed he was tougher?

Any such showings for Creel would be better to show.



OWAW Superman's power level aren't general knowledge.

Why wouldn't Superman just start ripping apart worthies with his speed like he did to B13 and let Creel absorb his power? You are suggesting Superman fight like an idiot and worthies fight like they are Batman or something? Not surprising.



He has done that before too. So I heard. Any feats in particular?

And gets overloaded. And gets overloaded by people at a certain power level.

Even if he absorbs half of superman's powers Superman would beat the shit out of worthies. You are not comprehending the level this superman plays at. Which scene of Superman getting beaten is you basing this on?



Who knows? It was significant to the point his opponents were Hank Pym, Justice and Quicksilver. Not a single top tier and Creel couldn't beat them either.



Tell me again how much power he would absorb to get Superman so weakened that he gets beaten here. But I get it, you are taking a single scenario as the most probable scenario where Superman gets beaten. Why doesn't superman rips every worthy at super speed and overloads Creel after that?

Creel had the benefit of a gauge when it came to the Sentry's power by his own admission.

In this fight with Superman, even if you allow Creel an augmentation in his absorption powers, he doesn't have the same advantage.

I think it is reasonable to presune that a Sundipped Superman is significantly more powerful than the Sentry.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Ah, smarter means him being more powerful. How silly of me. Which confirmed he was tougher?

Any such showings for Creel would be better to show.

No, it confirmed the rest of his powers were more enhanced.

I already posted confirmation.

Originally posted by abhilegend
OWAW Superman's power level aren't general knowledge.

Why wouldn't Superman just start ripping apart worthies with his speed like he did to B13 and let Creel absorb his power? You are suggesting Superman fight like an idiot and worthies fight like they are Batman or something? Not surprising.

Superman being powered by the Sun is. Not to mention Creel can sense powerful energy sources so the idea he'd blindly try and absorb the totality of Superman's power is not true

He can try but unless he starts flying around at the speed of light or something, Creel can and will tag him. You bring up CIS but forget OWAW Superman flew in into every attack of the B13 drones as he was ripping them apart.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He has done that before too. So I heard. Any feats in particular?

And gets overloaded. And gets overloaded by people at a certain power level.

Even if he absorbs half of superman's powers Superman would beat the shit out of worthies. You are not comprehending the level this superman plays at. Which scene of Superman getting beaten is you basing this on?

Really, when?

He just has to absorb the properties of heat vision, not Superman's entire energy storage. Again, Creel can simply absorb the properties of an element, he does not need to absorb EVERYTHING.

And then Creel with half of Superman's power will start wailing on him with back up from the other Worthy.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Who knows? It was significant to the point his opponents were Hank Pym, Justice and Quicksilver. Not a single top tier and Creel couldn't beat them either.

Uh, what? Those guys were getting their ass kicked. Not to mention Creel is a power absorber. As mentioned in that very comic, the more powerful his opponent, the greater their disadvantage.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Tell me again how much power he would absorb to get Superman so weakened that he gets beaten here. But I get it, you are taking a single scenario as the most probable scenario where Superman gets beaten. Why doesn't superman rips every worthy at super speed and overloads Creel after that?

I didn't even say that they win every time or anything, please stop with the misrepresentation of my arguments. I do believe however that the Worthy probably take the majority with the diversity of their powerset.

He can try, sure, I just don't find it very likely. I think Superman flying in trying to rip them into pieces like the B13 drones instead of some super speed strategic barrage is far more likely. So is Absorbing Man trying to drain him as that's literally his main shtick.

Anyways, seeing as how this discussion has gone from trying to deny my points to the likelihood of the scenario and super-speed blitzing crap from Superman, I think this discussion has run it's course. And the same shit being repeated over and over again is getting boring.

But for clarity sake, here's another scene that clearly meant to indicate ONLY his intelligence and such was meant to be amped:
http://s29.postimg.org/5d4pax7vr/im20_06_018.jpg

http://s29.postimg.org/qpc78lrtv/im20_06_019_020.jpghttp://s29.postimg.org/78rhm2wpv/im2_0_07_003_004.jpg

/sarcasm

Also, still waiting on evidence of any other powers aside from strength being amped for Superman in OWAW.

That art work is terrible

"New and improved" Creel? I wonder how many characters have said it.

Oh I forgot, every one of them./sarcasm


Also you are being purposely obtuse here. Not that its anything new.

Originally posted by abhilegend
"New and improved" Creel? I wonder how many characters have said it.

Oh I forgot, every one of them./sarcasm


Also you are being purposely obtuse here. Not that its anything new.

It doesn't matter if every character ever said such a thing and was proven wrong. You're denying Creel's powers being improved and I posted a scan of him further confirming the intention.

Throw in the fact that all the other Worthy had their main attributes augmented and this doubt that you have is counter to what the writers clearly intended.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It doesn't matter if every character ever said such a thing and was proven wrong. You're denying Creel's powers being improved and I posted a scan of him further confirming the intention.

Throw in the fact that all the other Worthy had their main attributes augmented and this doubt that you have is counter to what the writers clearly intended.
Eh, he showed no such showings that showcased his improved powers. At best its just a random power up like Iron Man receives every other day. At worst, its nothing.

And leave these speculations behind. Come defend your boy here.

http://herochat.com/forum/index.php?topic=254940.40

Or are you too chicken for that like always?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Eh, he showed no such showings that showcased his improved powers. At best its just a random power up like Iron Man receives every other day. At worst, its nothing.

And leave these speculations behind. Come defend your boy here.

http://herochat.com/forum/index.php?topic=254940.40

Or are you too chicken for that like always?

I'm not even saying his powers were amped noticeably. I simply pointed out that using his showings like overloading shouldn't really apply here as he's from all indications amped. Not that I'm saying his absorption powers are unlimited.



You're calling me chicken? Lol. I don't think you understand the difference between turning down a challenge and choosing not to post repetitive shit for 3 pages until someone can't handle the boredom.

Well, I replied, but I doubt it's what you wanted.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm not even saying his powers were amped noticeably. I simply pointed out that using his showings like overloading shouldn't really apply here as he's from all indications amped. Not that I'm saying his absorption powers are unlimited. Then what are you suggesting? We take all of Creel's good showings and disregard every bad showing? That's not how it works. Its like using Superman's unamped high end feats and applying it to sundipped state. In that case Superman would punch everyone's head off here. Show us his amped feats since you're so sure of them.



Yes. I am, got any problem with that chicken? You posted what, two or three times and ran away? Yeah, that's being chicken all right.

Of course, you just repeated yourself without anything to stand upon your stance. Chicken.

The Worthy wins. Every aspect of their powers were enhanced by the way.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Then what are you suggesting? We take all of Creel's good showings and disregard every bad showing? That's not how it works. Its like using Superman's unamped high end feats and applying it to sundipped state. In that case Superman would punch everyone's head off here. Show us his amped feats since you're so sure of them.

Yes. I am, got any problem with that chicken? You posted what, two or three times and ran away? Yeah, that's being chicken all right.

Of course, you just repeated yourself without anything to stand upon your stance. Chicken.

Not at all what I'm saying. As I told you, his intelligence is amped and by all indications so are his Absorbing powers. Seeing as how even REGULAR Creel can counter overloading by not absorbing the entire power source, referencing instances where he has is completely irrelevant.

I didn't even post in that thread. You quoted me on a different board from a post on KMC in a thread that was closed.

Lol, wtf? Are you trying to bait me into getting a discussion with you? Dude, get a hobby or something if you're this bored.

I already told you my stance. What could I possibly show you that would change your mind? Simply put, it'd be boring.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not at all what I'm saying. As I told you, his intelligence is amped and by all indications so are his Absorbing powers. Seeing as how even REGULAR Creel can counter overloading by not absorbing the entire power source, referencing instances where he has is completely irrelevant. Normal crel could do it if he knows the power level of his opponents. He has no idea how powerful superman is here. So, its not even in consideration.

You didn't? What is this then?

http://herochat.com/forum/index.php?topic=254940.msg4263111#msg4263111



nah, just stomping you like always.

Some feats from Thor justifying your stance.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Normal crel could do it if he knows the power level of his opponents. He has no idea how powerful superman is here. So, its not even in consideration..

Except we've seen Worthy Absorbing Man being able to sense power sources.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You didn't? What is this then?

http://herochat.com/forum/index.php?topic=254940.msg4263111#msg4263111

That was before you quoted me from a different thread. You said I ran away or some other sort of nonsense. I didn't even bother reading that thread again until you linked it.

Originally posted by abhilegend


nah, just stomping you like always.

Some feats from Thor justifying your stance

Please, you've gone out of your way to ignore evidence of any kind when it suits you.

Given the arguments in this thread Superman wins.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Except we've seen Worthy Absorbing Man being able to sense power sources. Really? Then he would be even more afraid to touch Superman.



You said you didn't even posted in that thread.



Try me.

The Worthy win. He could take a few of them down, but the whole roster? No friggin' way.

Originally posted by Epicurus
The Worthy win. He could take a few of them down, but the whole roster? No friggin' way. Superman can one shot KILL almost all of them. They have no durability feats on par with thousands of galaxies of power.
Kuurth would be the biggest challenge to put down. But Kuurth would have a hard time hitting Superman (as with any of the members).

Originally posted by JBL
The Worthy wins. Every aspect of their powers were enhanced by the way.

How?

The Worthy wins this,too many damn hammers amp by magic. Kurrth and Nul are the top dogs and the rest are cherries on top.

Originally posted by the Darkone
The Worthy wins this,too many damn hammers amp by magic. Kurrth and Nul are the top dogs and the rest are cherries on top.

Thor while severely injured beat 2 members of The Worthy singlehandedly.

What makes you think an OWAW level Superman who is bloodlusted can't do better?

Originally posted by Epicurus
The Worthy win. He could take a few of them down, but the whole roster? No friggin' way.

Originally posted by the Darkone


I've challenged you.

RESPOND!

Based on all the arguments here, you can throw the serpent in and superman still wins.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Thor while severely injured beat 2 members of The Worthy singlehandedly.

What makes you think an OWAW level Superman who is bloodlusted can't do better? That was just two of them and he only bfr'd the Hulk anyway.

Originally posted by Epicurus
The Worthy win. He could take a few of them down, but the whole roster? No friggin' way.
Of course he can. Post a fight between Imperiex and Worthy and see who wins. Superman directly overpowered Imperiex powered B13. B13 was shredding DCU timeline EVEN before getting the power and WTFSTOMPED Linear Men.

http://i.imgur.com/ag1C2oJ.jpg

So yeah, he beats the shit out of them.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I've challenged you.

RESPOND!

Who gives a phuck!

Originally posted by the Darkone
Who gives a phuck!
You do.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You do.

Um I dont, maybe you do!!

Here its stated again that B13 was going to destroy entire Continuum.

http://i.imgur.com/B2D8eJr.jpg

What's even crazier that it was only a small part of his power and he was doing it across omni-temporally.

http://i.imgur.com/GW1H76W.jpg

He was an abstract level being even before he was powered by Imperiex power, capable of destroying entire timelines hence the name "Ravager of Timelines."

Yet, Superman gets beaten by some two trick ponies like Worthies. Never change KMC.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Um I dont, maybe you do!!
Riiiiiiiight.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course he can. Post a fight between Imperiex and Worthy and see who wins. Superman directly overpowered Imperiex powered B13. B13 was shredding DCU timeline EVEN before getting the power and WTFSTOMPED Linear Men.

http://i.imgur.com/ag1C2oJ.jpg

So yeah, he beats the shit out of them.
Being powered by the Imperiex engine doesn't make Braniac Imepriex himself. Think.

It took the power of a universal reality warper to exorcise Angrir's soul as well.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Being powered by the Imperiex engine doesn't make Braniac Imepriex himself. Think.

It took the power of a universal reality warper to exorcise Angrir's soul as well.
B13 was bonded with Imperiex thoroughly. At that point he WAS imperiex and that was explicitly stated several times.

http://i.imgur.com/WyTbBU5.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/E3h9EiB.jpg



Even without it, he had the power to destroy entire timelines by a small portion of his powers.

You aren't using Franklin curing Ben effortlessly as a feat for Angrir, do you? Seriously WTF?

Originally posted by quanchi112
That was just two of them and he only bfr'd the Hulk anyway.



Superman will BFR the Hulk's head from his shoulders.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Based on all the arguments here, you can throw the serpent in and superman still wins.

vin This

Originally posted by quanchi112
That was just two of them and he only bfr'd the Hulk anyway.



Two of them had trouble with a Herald, SM was one shooting Herald team buster BEFORE he sundiped, do the math.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Superman will BFR the Hulk's head from his shoulders. Who has he done this to ? No one. Baseless claims.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
vin This



Two of them had trouble with a Herald, SM was one shooting Herald team buster BEFORE he sundiped, do the math. Thor's power has gotten the better of a weakened Galactus. Superman dies. I did the math. Condolences.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Even without it, he had the power to destroy entire timelines by a small portion of his powers.

You aren't using Franklin curing Ben effortlessly as a feat for Angrir, do you? Seriously WTF?
He was bonded to Imperiex, but that doesn't make him Imperiex by proxy. By that logic, Galactus is Eternity.

Yes I am, considering that in recent F4/FF comics, which are set in a time period long after Frank "effortlessly cured" Ben, he has shown signs of the Angrir personality resurfacing.

Superman said that if Imperiex was released, they'd all be helpless to stop him from hollowing the Universe when he was pushing War World did he not?

That made it pretty clear, I thought, that Sundipped or not, he was insignificant to Imperiex.

Also, Steel outright said that Braniac was unable to properly channel Imperiex's energies or whatever when he blasted them and the Aegis was able to hold back his attack.

Just throwing these facts out there.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor's power has gotten the better of a weakened Galactus. Superman dies. I did the math. Condolences.

Superman's power has gotten the better of Dominus whili still not going all out.
My condolences for your poor math. ]vin

Superman wins.

The Worthless ain't up to scratch

Superman isn't > Imperiex.

That said, behave yourselves.

Superman wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Who has he done this to ? No one. Baseless claims.

Superman was saving that feat for just this occasion.

Headless Hulk 1 Waid/Keown

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Superman's power has gotten the better of Dominus whili still not going all out.
My condolences for your poor math. ]vin Dominus tortured him he couldn't kill him for reasons in the story. Superman used weakness exploitation against him unlike Thor.

Context. Math. Worthy win.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Superman was saving that feat for just this occasion.

Headless Hulk 1 Waid/Keown So no one just as I said. What I say happens in comics unlike your views.

Warned for ignoring a mod, Quan, and for baiting on top of that.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Warned for ignoring a mod, Quan, and for baiting on top of that. I am gone from this part of the board yet again. Enjoy the board dying and remember you did this.

That sounds like a ban right there.

Originally posted by Epicurus
He was bonded to Imperiex, but that doesn't make him Imperiex by proxy. By that logic, Galactus is Eternity.

Yes I am, considering that in recent F4/FF comics, which are set in a time period long after Frank "effortlessly cured" Ben, he has shown signs of the Angrir personality resurfacing.
Galactus don't has Eternity's power and has eternity as a soldier.

Hahaha, you're just desperate now. What level is Angrir by that showing? It took Living Tribunal to banish Zom, so he must be LT level, right?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Superman said that if Imperiex was released, they'd all be helpless to stop him from hollowing the Universe when he was pushing War World did he not? That was because Imperiex was an energy being.

That's why Imperiex said Superman would've killed B13 in that state.

That never happened. Steel was unable to channel Aegis' power.

You're just throwing random shit now.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am gone from this part of the board yet again. Enjoy the board dying and remember you did this.

Yeah, because it's my fault you act the way you do.

Good talk.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Galactus don't has Eternity's power and has eternity as a soldier.

Hahaha, you're just desperate now. What level is Angrir by that showing? It took Living Tribunal to banish Zom, so he must be LT level, right?
First of all, get a better grasp of English. I can't even make out what you're trying to say in the first sentence. Next, that is completely untrue. It has been confirmed that Galactus' Power Cosmic comes from bonding with the Eternity of the previous universe, so of course by your logic, that makes Galactus Eternity.

Same could be said of you, equating Brainiac and Imperiex as if they were the same character. Not to mention that your LT example is completely offbase, as Zom wasn't able to overcome the LT's might under his power. Angrir on the other hand has been able to partially undo the power of a being who transcends Angrir's own master.

Originally posted by Epicurus
First of all, get a better grasp of English. I can't even make out what you're trying to say in the first sentence. That's your fault. A dying Eternity's conscience merged with Galan. What you're saying is more like Doom with Galactus' power isn't equal to Galactus in power.

Brainiac usurped Imperiex's power totally after Kismet Superman blew him up. At that moment he he had his own power+Imperiex's power. What's so hard for you to understand? Oh right, you've to do your own spin on things. Neither was Angrir. In fact he was damn near killed by Thor. Personality of Angrir returning=/=Him able to do anything against Franklin's power. This is just lulzworthy. Angrir was almost killed by a returning mjolnir, Superman would disintegrate him with a punch. But hey, he might be able to resurface in Thing's mind after that. Revoltin' developement........

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's your fault. A dying Eternity's conscience merged with Galan. What you're saying is more like Doom with Galactus' power isn't equal to Galactus in power.

Brainiac usurped Imperiex's power totally after Kismet Superman blew him up. At that moment he he had his own power+Imperiex's power. What's so hard for you to understand? Oh right, you've to do your own spin on things. Neither was Angrir. In fact he was damn near killed by Thor. Personality of Angrir returning=/=Him able to do anything against Franklin's power. This is just lulzworthy. Angrir was almost killed by a returning mjolnir, Superman would disintegrate him with a punch. But hey, he might be able to resurface in Thing's mind after that. Revoltin' developement........
Being unable to make out that sentence which seemed like it was penned down by a 3rd grader is my fault? Lol. Nope, what I am saying is that Doom with Galactus' power isn't Galactus himself. Which is what you were implying.

Lol, I just told you the instance where Angrir's personality seemingly resurfaced, and you say that he never did so? Reading comprehension clearly isn't your forte.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Being unable to make out that sentence which seemed like it was penned down by a 3rd grader is my fault? Keep it up pal. Bada is likely watching you.



Heh, you sure sound convincing there. Why is stealing someone's entire power doesn't makes you as powerful as them?

What does that has to do with this fight?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Keep it up pal. Bada is likely watching you.



Heh, you sure sound convincing there. Why is stealing someone's entire power doesn't makes you as powerful as them?

What does that has to do with this fight?


As if he isn't watching you, the baby-hatering dude?

Well, maybe for starters because it wasn't just Galactus' power that was involved in that series? Or did you somehow miss the portion of the comic where Reed explicitly explains how a cosmic cube, the cosmic control rod and that cosmic book-a-ma-thingy was involved as well?

Maybe nothing. Maybe everything. Who knows?

Originally posted by Epicurus
As if he isn't watching you, the baby-hatering dude?

Well, maybe for starters because it wasn't just Galactus' power that was involved in that series? Or did you somehow miss the portion of the comic where Reed explicitly explains how a cosmic cube, the cosmic control rod and that cosmic book-a-ma-thingy was involved as well?

Maybe nothing. Maybe everything. Who knows?
Again? Not even a week ago Bada warned you about that. You sure you're up to another warning?

For absorbing Galactus' power. He was more powerful than Galactus' with those objects. Why is Imperiex powered B13 not as powerful as Imperiex if he can fight him on even terms across infinite timelines on his own? Imperiex+B13<Imperiex? What kind of logic is that?

So you're just butthurt. Good to know.

Originally posted by abhilegend
As if he isn't watching you, the baby-hatering dude?

For absorbing Galactus' power. He was more powerful than Galactus' with those objects. Why is Imperiex powered B13 not as powerful as Imperiex if he can fight him on even terms across infinite timelines on his own? Imperiex+B13<Imperiex? What kind of logic is that?

So you're just butthurt. Good to know.
That doesn't change the fact that you are a baby-hating scoundrel.

Exactly. Correct-a-mundo. The point that I have been trying to make; just because you absorb an entity doesn't make you said entity.

Projection ill suits you, son.

Originally posted by Epicurus
That doesn't change the fact that you are a baby-hating scoundrel.

Exactly. Correct-a-mundo. The point that I have been trying to make; just because you absorb an entity doesn't make you said entity.

Projection ill suits you, son.
Yeah, this will not end well for you.

Haha, you've no arguments so just repeating yourself. How original.

Superman wins and then oneshots Thor just for lulz. Get over it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, this will not end well for you.

Haha, you've no arguments so just repeating yourself. How original.

Superman wins and then oneshots Thor just for lulz. Get over it.
Irrelevant, crybaby.

Poor comeback, as expected from you abhi.

He can get wins against them individually, he can get wins against a few them collectively as well, but not the whole goddamn roster. That's my original opinion, and I'll stick by it.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Irrelevant, crybaby.

Poor comeback, as expected from you abhi.

He can get wins against them individually, he can get wins against a few them collectively as well, but not the whole goddamn roster. That's my original opinion, and I'll stick by it.
Whatever tough guy.

At least its better than yours. "B13 wasn't as powerful as Imperiex despite comic saying several times. Why? I said so." Quan has taught you well.

You can. Its wrong though since you have no way of proving it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Whatever tough guy.

I accept your concession.
Originally posted by abhilegend

At least its better than yours. "B13 wasn't as powerful as Imperiex despite comic saying several times. Why? I said so." Quan has taught you well.

You can. Its wrong though since you have no way of proving it.
I said they are the different character. I didn't even mention power throughout this discussion. Lol.

Of course I don't, since these fictional characters come from different publishing companies and have never faced each other in a comic book. Don't get how that makes one's subjective opinion wrong. But o-okay.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Irrelevant, crybaby.

Poor comeback, as expected from you abhi.

He can get wins against them individually, he can get wins against a few them collectively as well, but not the whole goddamn roster. That's my original opinion, and I'll stick by it. spot on, good post

Originally posted by Epicurus
I accept your concession.

I said they are the different character. I didn't even mention power throughout this discussion. Lol.

Of course I don't, since these fictional characters come from different publishing companies and have never faced each other in a comic book. Don't get how that makes one's subjective opinion wrong. But o-okay.
Heh, becoming more like Quan everyday. Keep it up.

Then what are you arguing here? What are you even doing in this thread?

We can do it very simply. Can Worthies win against either B13 or Imperiex? Could they do it against the combined power of both?

Epicurus, you have a day off to think about what happens when you continue trolling and flaming after a mod asks that it stop.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am gone from this part of the board yet again. Enjoy the board dying and remember you did this. facepalm

Sundipped Superman wins