Byrne Superman vs Martian Manhunter

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abhilegend
Slugfest only. This is J'onn from the end of DCU. Who wins?

guy222
Supes

zopzop
No version of Superman is losing to MM in a slugfest.

cdtm
Heh, probably Superman.

Make it J'onn as he was written in Ostranders series, when he actually used his versatility intelligently, and Supes from that era should have a fight.

Prof. T.C McAbe
MM

Galan007
J'onn stomps.

NemeBro
Manhunter beats the guy who was knocked out by a gas station explosion to death.

carver9
Originally posted by Galan007
J'onn stomps.

Stoic
Originally posted by guy222
Supes

abhilegend
Originally posted by cdtm
Heh, probably Superman.

Make it J'onn as he was written in Ostranders series, when he actually used his versatility intelligently, and Supes from that era should have a fight.
Even that MM was weaker than Superman.Originally posted by Galan007
J'onn stomps.
blink

Stomps? Reasons please.Originally posted by NemeBro
Manhunter beats the guy who was knocked out by a gas station explosion to death.
He later tanked two gas stations exploding in the very same series.

erm

Galan007
Originally posted by abhilegend
Stomps? Reasons please. Read a comic. thumb up

NemeBro
idc

When Superman grew more powerful, his peers were elevated as well.

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by NemeBro
idc

When Superman grew more powerful, his peers were elevated as well. How dare you!

It's obvious how badly Superman outmatched Orion in Death of the New Gods or Countdown.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Galan007
Read a comic. thumb up
Name a comic.Originally posted by NemeBro
idc

When Superman grew more powerful, his peers were elevated as well.
True, but J'onn wasn't. If anything his strength declined even more.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16004724/supesvseveryone3.JPG.html

What you are suggesting that if Byrne Superman showed up in the DCU after Infinite Crisis, even J'onn would be able to beat him in strength. Comics don't work that way.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
How dare you!

It's obvious how badly Superman outmatched Orion in Death of the New Gods or Countdown.
Yup, remember Superman actually fighting Infinity Man while he oneshotted Orion.

Good times.

NemeBro
Martian Manhunter also cold-cocked a guy who plays with planets the way you play with your balls (Superboy Prime) and managed to briefly hold him off.

And yes, briefly holding off Superboy Prime is better than being KO'd by gas stations.

Galan007
Originally posted by abhilegend
Name a comic. Superman.

abhilegend
Originally posted by NemeBro
Martian Manhunter also cold-cocked a guy who plays with planets the way you play with your balls (Superboy Prime) and managed to briefly hold him off.

And yes, briefly holding off Superboy Prime is better than being KO'd by gas stations.
Superman actually fought PC Superboy and three PC kryptonians in Byrne era and didn't got oneshotted.

Yes, the same Superboy who was moving planets like ping pong balls.Originally posted by Galan007
Superman.
laughing out loud

You bastard.

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by NemeBro
And yes, briefly holding off Superboy Prime is better than being KO'd by gas stations. Debatable

NemeBro
How so?

abhilegend
Originally posted by NemeBro
How so?
Its bran.

NemeBro
I wasn't talking to you.

Branlor Swift
All MM did was knock some blood out of his mouth. Oooh, thick water!

Superman lived through gas kablooeying with only mild to moderate brain damage. It probably even went in his eyes

Galan007
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Debatable Depends on the exact gallonage of gas at the station, imho.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
All MM did was knock some blood out of his mouth. Oooh, thick water!

Superman lived through gas kablooeying with only mild to moderate brain damage. It probably even went in his eyes
Its really good he drew a little blood from SBP, Superboy did that too and he's officially weaker than Byrne Superman. What's more important is Black Adam couldn't even hurt SBP.

Byrne Superman>J'onn/Superboy>Black Adam. It all makes sense now.

mmm

abhilegend
Originally posted by Galan007
Depends on the exact gallonage of gas at the station, imho.
Sure, that explosion would vaporize J'onn. Its not like he was oneshotted by Doomsday in the very same series. But hey, Doomsday no sold J'onn and Superman no sold Doomsday's first punch.

vin

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