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Reed
Sue
Johnny
Ben

Vs

Captain Cold
Captain Boomerang
Mirror Master
Pied Piper

Fight
No bfr
No prep

F4.

How do they take out mirror master?

They smash every single mirror.

Originally posted by Kazenji
They smash every single mirror.
He can exist in every surface that reflects light, so that's not an option for winning.

LOL! Rogues win.

Captain cold beating Johnny?....what a load of bs.

Who said anything about Captain Cold? Mirror Master is the trump card.

Are the rogues the nu52 ones, Pym?

Sue traps MM in a bubble ftw

MM can literally travel from mirror to mirror. He's almost impossible to trap.

Originally posted by Golgo13
MM can literally travel from mirror to mirror. He's almost impossible to trap.

Keyword there is "Almost"

I don't see what any of the FF can really do. He doesn't even need to be present to beat them.

current CC with just a cold gun and not the amped one? johnny goes supernova and takes out the rogues FTW

Originally posted by 8swords
current CC with just a cold gun and not the amped one? johnny goes supernova and takes out the rogues FTW

MM can just attack in any reflective service. Even your very own eyes. Unless Johnny is a killer, he's going to need to destroy the whole city. Plus, MM has transmutation and teleportation attacks,

Originally posted by Golgo13
MM can just attack in any reflective service. Even your very own eyes. Unless Johnny is a killer, he's going to need to destroy the whole city. Plus, MM has transmutation and teleportation attacks,

proof that he can do such things as attacking even his eyes,
that and I said johnny goes supernova AOE attack ,

Rogues win. MM turns them into glass. MM can pop out of any reflective surface. Isn't the pied piper a power house as well?

Actually Sue might be a good counter for MM. no reflective surface if she makes everything invisible.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He can exist in every surface that reflects light, so that's not an option for winning.


Reed turns all known light sources off

Originally posted by 8swords
proof that he can do such things as attacking even his eyes,
that and I said johnny goes supernova AOE attack ,
http://i.imgur.com/za2ZIeE.jpg

Unless you're a very powerful telepath, there is no way to beat Mirror Master in a forum fight.

Rogues win.

Rogues win

They fight in a featureless environment.

Reed deduces that Mirror Master isn't limited to reflective surfaces, has Sue make the whole team invisible. Johnny and Ben take out the rogues.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Are the rogues the nu52 ones, Pym? yep all current

Originally posted by abhilegend
http://i.imgur.com/za2ZIeE.jpg

Unless you're a very powerful telepath, there is no way to beat Mirror Master in a forum fight.

Beastly!

Originally posted by abhilegend
He can exist in every surface that reflects light, so that's not an option for winning.
Sue can render those surfaces invisible, hence they won't be reflecting anything.

IMHO, FF take it.

Originally posted by zopzop
Sue can render those surfaces invisible, hence they won't be reflecting anything.

IMHO, FF take it.

She would have to do it to every surface available. EVERY.

BTW, people are sleeping on Pied Piper. He can basically hypnotize anyone and render himself invisible to people.

Hasn't CC slowed down the flash before.

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
Hasn't CC slowed down the flash before. CC supposedly holds back against the Flash because he likes him like a buddy.

He ruined Johnny though. He also had a scuffle where he kicked the shit out of Mirror Master too.

He's no joke if he isn't screwing around.

I think the Rogues are certainly all powerful in their own right, but the FF (being the FF) will work together, use their powers in conjunction, and are well set up to counter the Rogues' strengths.

Originally posted by abhilegend
How do they take out mirror master? hmmm sounds like someone who can make things invisible could come in realllll handy right about now

MM blinds sue
CC freezes Reed
Rogues win

Originally posted by psycho gundam
hmmm sounds like someone who can make things invisible could come in realllll handy right about now You know what you need to do right?

Superman vs Mirror Master

superman absorbs sunlight so he's non-reflective

duh

Originally posted by psycho gundam
hmmm sounds like someone who can make things invisible could come in realllll handy right about now
That's not a hindrance for MM.Originally posted by psycho gundam
superman absorbs sunlight so he's non-reflective

duh
There's no way for Superman to beat him either.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's not a hindrance for MM.
There's no way for Superman to beat him either.

prove that invisibility wont be a hindrance here

Seems Abhi is lowballing the F4's abilities

when its not Thor its someone else.

So, how is ff beating MM? And where is this fight taking place?

Featureless environment

Originally posted by 8swords
prove that invisibility wont be a hindrance here
Can sue make her own eyes invisible? That would blind her like it did to Logan.Originally posted by Kazenji
Seems Abhi is lowballing the F4's abilities

when its not Thor its someone else.
Actually I don't think F4 have necessary tools to beat MM. Like I said if you're not a telepath, you can't beat him in a forum fight.

She DOES make her own eyes invisible, otherwise she'd be known as Floating Eyeball Woman.

Doesn't Sue make her entire body invisible? Otherwise wouldn't we just be seeing 2 eyeballs floating everywhere?

edit, Gotdamn you DS and your lightning fast post

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Doesn't Sue make her entire body invisible? Otherwise wouldn't we just be seeing 2 eyeballs floating everywhere?

edit, Gotdamn you DS and your lightning fast post http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxt3t35MeQ1qae637.gif

There are other eyes. He could make Johnny or Reed blind.

what happens if he in something that turns invisible?

Nothing. He's still in the Mirror World.

Cap Cold is here. All ice is reflective. The Rogues' spit is reflective.

People forget how versatile Mirror Master is. He can alter people's perception:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/MM_zps80f92add.png
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/MM2_zps32055555.png
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/MM3_zpse171a1ee.jpg
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/MM4_zps114862fa.jpg
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/MM5_zps4622ae8b.png
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/MM6_zps2b34e66f.jpg

He can create duplicates of himself that can move, talk, etc...
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/MM7_zpse3123282.jpg
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/MM8_zpsed4e0d1e.jpg
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/MM9_zps64cb2bd1.jpg
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/MM10_zps01ad390c.jpg
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/MM11_zpsb86f8314.jpg

He can easily teleport himself and others:

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/MM12_zpsb1c1485b.jpg
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/MM13_zpsf3d0fb22.jpg
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/MM14_zps52940be9.jpg

Originally posted by Kazenji
They smash every single mirror.

Flash has tried numerous times. Can't win that way.

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/MM15_zps4ca07687.jpg

He's ridiculously powerful.
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/MM16_zps65bb95f9.jpg
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/MM17_zps41e03d69.jpg

Sue makes all reflective surfaces invisible. Mirror Master is trapped in Mirror World, with no reflective surface to jump back into. Should he get back into world, Thing/Johnny/Reed/Sue KO him.

At best, he faces BFR.

She can do it that wide of an area? Also, don't sleep on Pied Piper. He can hypnotize any of the FF.

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/PP_zpsd6a6ae52.jpg

Tbh I've never seen Sue make EVERYTHING invisible within a 0.5km radius, off the bat, including her team mates and the opposing team.

Plus, can SHE see invisible things? Otherwise, the FF now have to contend with an invisible Pied Piper et al, who'd be able to attack with impunity. The FF's only hope then would be to have a team mate who can AOE attack, like Human Torch.....

But he never does so when he knows his team mates are nearby, as its too dangerous.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Tbh I've never seen Sue make EVERYTHING invisible within a 0.5km radius, off the bat, including her team mates and the opposing team.

Plus, can SHE see invisible things? Otherwise, the FF now have to contend with an invisible Pied Piper et al, who'd be able to attack with impunity. The FF's only hope then would be to have a team mate who can AOE attack, like Human Torch.....

But he never does so when he knows his team mates are nearby, as its too dangerous. Yeah, I think the Rogues win, pretty easily too.