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Ultron and Nimrod take on Cyborg Superman in a battle to the Death or KO with no BFR allowed...

Fight takes place on the surface of planet Apokalypse...

Who wins?

Ultron easily.

Team

Nimrod gets turned to dust but Ultron wins.

Team in a stomp

Henshaw.

How?

We've been over this. Nothing Ultron can do to Henshaw. Adding Nimrod to the other side actually gives him an advantage. It's a body he can use to fight Ultron as well.

We went over it and Then Ultron killed the majority of the heroes on earth.

The Technopathy is a wash, but physicality is swayed in Ultron's favor.

Henshaw wins.

How?

Originally posted by pym-ftw
We went over it and Then Ultron killed the majority of the heroes on earth.

The Technopathy is a wash, but physicality is swayed in Ultron's favor.

Even if Ultron destroys Hank's body, his conscious will just jump into another one. Which is why Nimrod is somewhat of an advantage.

Why would that matter Ultron isn't running out of energy and he can at worst split the body total with Hank.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Why would that matter Ultron isn't running out of energy and he can at worst split the body total with Hank.

It would probably end in some stalemate. In a comic, Hank would just be creating new weapons, jumping from one tech to another, etc... It's extremely hard to get rid of him. He can't even die and needed the Anti-Monitor to do it and I don't even think he did it.

If he has no bodies left or trapped in a body that isn't functional Ultron wins.

He can also create bodies like manipulating matter around him.

Ultron can disolve adamantium, can Henshaw create matter out of the air?

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Ultron can disolve adamantium, can Henshaw create matter out of the air?

As long as their is materials around, he can do it.

Has he pulled it out of the air Magneto style?

Seems like it. Point is, Ultron can't kill or stop Hank for good. He could probably just bond with Ultron. I'm in the boat in thinking Hank can just hack him right out,.

You know marvel has a source wall rip off right? Vision beat the guy who hacked it fairly easily and don't get me started on what Ultron does to Vision.

Technopathy like you said is a wash, but Hank probably has a wide variety and more impressive overall.

Nothing that beats the Phalanx really, even counting the dumb ending of that saga.

Hank is just as impressive, IMO. Hell, he has manhandled trans beings like Ganthet (absorbing his energy) and ripped Doomsday in half. Hank is nothing to sneeze at. Also, the Source Wall.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
You know marvel has a source wall rip off right? Vision beat the guy who hacked it fairly easily and don't get me started on what Ultron does to Vision.
What would that be? Also this is a very good link to show off Ultron's wins and losses.

www.comicvine.com/ultron/4005-2242/forums/ultron-chronology-1491781/#2/

He isn't as invincible as you think. Heck Henshaw could pull off a machine man and rip his innards out.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
How?
By beating the **** out of him?

Originally posted by abhilegend
What would that be? Also this is a very good link to show off Ultron's wins and losses.

www.comicvine.com/ultron/4005-2242/forums/ultron-chronology-1491781/#2/

He isn't as invincible as you think. Heck Henshaw could pull off a machine man and rip his innards out. Dimitrios in Avengers A.I.

Why would I lowball one character, nevermind look who I'm debating.

Which ultron is this, btw?

I'm assuming AoU Ultron.

ultron wins by himself

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Dimitrios in Avengers A.I.

Why would I lowball one character, nevermind look who I'm debating.
What did he do? And what knock off of Source Wall are we talking about?

We take averages of characters here, you don't want to see a character's losses brought up? Go to CBR.

The Golden Knot.

You want to use weaker versions of Ultron to find an average, that's like me not using Doomsdays later upgrades in the spirit of averages.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
The Golden Knot.

You want to use weaker versions of Ultron to find an average, that's like me not using Doomsdays later upgrades in the spirit of averages.
WTF is that?

Since the OP didn't specified what version of ultron it was, why not? And what upgrades he has that stop getting his innards ripped out?

A knock off source wall that Galactus guards apparently, its Avengers A.I's major plot point.

His shield to start with, actually multiple shields. He also has magnetism powers and he can reform damaged systems.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
A knock off source wall that Galactus guards apparently, its Avengers A.I's major plot point.

His shield to start with, actually multiple shields. He also has magnetism powers and he can reform damaged systems.
Any particular aspect of it I should know? Because source wall is pretty unique in itself.

Hank would break through the shields and if he tears out the molecular rearranger, its over for ultron. There is nothing ultron can do to keep hank down though.

Isn't Ultron made out of adamantium? Don't see THAT happening.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Any particular aspect of it I should know? Because source wall is pretty unique in itself.

Hank would break through the shields and if he tears out the molecular rearranger, its over for ultron. There is nothing ultron can do to keep hank down though. it is apparently a list of source code that when changed can massively warp reality. Dimitrios is going to use it to kill "God"

The shields that block the combined assault of all the avengers, Henshaw is just going to walk up and punch through them and all the while Ultrons is rebooting or burning copies of Avatar for the Kree empire.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
it is apparently a list of source code that when changed can massively warp reality. Dimitrios is going to use it to kill "God"

The shields that block the combined assault of all the avengers, Henshaw is just going to walk up and punch through them and all the while Ultrons is rebooting or burning copies of Avatar for the Kree empire.

What sorts of feats does it have for protection? SW has some.

Other than Galactus? It's a near infinite amount of Data but it really hasn't been delved into yet.

is avengers AI worth checking out?

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Other than Galactus? It's a near infinite amount of Data but it really hasn't been delved into yet.

SW has more feats, though. Hank's hacking and manipulating of the SW is most impressive.

Originally posted by leonidas
is avengers AI worth checking out? It's kinda cool, but if your not a fan of Vision & Pym I'd say no. Doombot has been fun though.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
it is apparently a list of source code that when changed can massively warp reality. Dimitrios is going to use it to kill "God"

The shields that block the combined assault of all the avengers, Henshaw is just going to walk up and punch through them and all the while Ultrons is rebooting or burning copies of Avatar for the Kree empire.
So no particulars yet.

Yeah, take one feat and pretend its the average. When did he keep the avengers at bay with his force field and who were the members of that team?

Hank might outright control Ultron too. He IS the king of technopaths.

Ultron solos

Originally posted by abhilegend
So no particulars yet.

Yeah, take one feat and pretend its the average. When did he keep the avengers at bay with his force field and who were the members of that team?

Hank might outright control Ultron too. He IS the king of technopaths.

Yeah, that knock off doesn't have an average to compare to the SW.

It killed every organic life form.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
It killed every organic life form.

SW is much more than that, though. It exists in all universes simultaneously, IIRC.

Dimitrios is going to use the Golden Knot to kill God... That's about as uber as it gets.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Dimitrios is going to use the Golden Knot to kill God... That's about as uber as it gets.

I'd be surprised if he does it. But it sounds like he hasn't, so... The Heartstones was said to give you the power to kill God as well, but hasn't shown on panel.

Originally posted by Golgo13
SW is much more than that, though. It exists in all universes simultaneously, IIRC.



It's been stated to exist across 6 dimensions and such, and here's Jack Kirby's 4th world #14, saying that it spans across all dimensions:

http://i.imgur.com/TQgOnuB.jpg?3