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Who is the weakest character that can break Thors arms, break his legs, and knock all the teeth out of his mouth with nothing but pure brute force?

100% melee battle and no other powers, abilities, or tech is allowed (Thor only gets Mjolnir here)...

Who is the weakest character that can physically dominate Thor to such an extent?

Iron Fist

Maybe Hulk? Especially once he starts raging enough.

EDIT -
Or maybe that version of Sentry that was tentacle r@ping Hulk and breaking every bone in his body?

Hulk if sufficiently enraged.

Originally posted by zopzop
Maybe Hulk? Especially once he starts raging enough.

EDIT -
Or maybe that version of Sentry that was tentacle r@ping Hulk and breaking every bone in his body?

Context with the Void showing but overall I agree with you. It's going to take a lot of power to achieve this ft.

If he's fighting back, no one in the Herald tier.

Oh sh|t, forgot about Tutinax.

I'll go with him for being the weakest person able to do what you listed in your OP.

Even with Bendis writing essentially the weakest Thor ever, Tutinax wasn't able to do THAT to him.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Even with Bendis writing essentially the weakest Thor ever, Tutinax wasn't able to do THAT to him.
I think like twice, Tutinax had him at his mercy but was stopped by Ghaur. Once the fight was out of Thor (ie he was unconscious) what would stop Tutinax from tearing him apart?

I just don't think he'd be able to do the kind of damage requested in the OP. And if we're talking non-Bendis Thor, he'd be unlikely to be able to beat him at all.

Originally posted by zopzop
Oh sh|t, forgot about Tutinax.

I'll go with him for being the weakest person able to do what you listed in your OP.

Would you put Tut over Hulk physically?

Originally posted by carver9
Would you put Tut over Hulk physically?
Nope.

But the OP said "weakest".

I view Hulk, especially when he's sufficiently enraged, as > Tutinax.

@Khazra Reborn
We'll agree to disagree then.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Even with Bendis writing essentially the weakest Thor ever, Tutinax wasn't able to do THAT to him.
It wasn't Bendis.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It wasn't Bendis.

http://marvel.wikia.com/Thor:_The_Deviants_Saga_Vol_1_1

I didn't read the Deviant Saga, but I thought that guy in Bendis' Avengers arc with Thanos' inexplicable return was Tutinax? If not who was that?

Ghost Rider just smacked him around in the UA annual

Spiderman

Break his arm and legs and knock his face in? Lol at mentions like Hulk and Tutinax. Anything less then Odin isn't a even serious answer.

Originally posted by Trackz
Ghost Rider just smacked him around in the UA annual

I'm so shocked.

How bad did he beat up the Avengers?

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
I didn't read the Deviant Saga, but I thought that guy in Bendis' Avengers arc with Thanos' inexplicable return was Tutinax? If not who was that?
Zodiac.Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Break his arm and legs and knock his face in? Lol at mentions like Hulk and Tutinax. Anything less then Odin isn't a even serious answer.
Destroyer would disagree. So would Harald Jakelsson.

Jakelsson, now that's a damn good one, I forgot about him. He actually did break Thor's arm.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Jakelsson, now that's a damn good one, I forgot about him. He actually did break Thor's arm.
Thor broke his own hand hitting Harald. Its not canon to 616 Thor from what I can tell. Its a MAX imprint actually.

*gurgle*

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/100813/2697535-2457011-2450549_2066465_thorowned.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor broke his own hand hitting Harald. Its not canon to 616 Thor from what I can tell. Its a MAX imprint actually.

It's not canon, but Jakelsson was an awesome character none the less.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its a MAX imprint actually.

Not all max titles were alt universes.

Marvel database says it's 616, plus it's commonly used on message boards as canon.

Originally posted by zopzop
I think like twice, Tutinax had him at his mercy but was stopped by Ghaur. Once the fight was out of Thor (ie he was unconscious) what would stop Tutinax from tearing him apart?

This is far worse than the Tutinax showing. It even reference Thor death and it was like 3 blows that did this.

http://s226.photobucket.com/user/HulkFights/media/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/2.jpg.html
http://s226.photobucket.com/user/HulkFights/media-full/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/3.jpg.html

Two or more hits probably would have killed him.

Even though Thor's standing there relatively undamaged, two more blows would have killed him? Can't say that I buy that...

Mechanisaurus Rex- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/mechanisaurusrexav.htm

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Not all max titles were alt universes.

Marvel database says it's 616, plus it's commonly used on message boards as canon.
MAX imprint was alt universe AFAIK. Which MAX imprint was in 616 universe?Originally posted by carver9
This is far worse than the Tutinax showing. It even reference Thor death and it was like 3 blows that did this.

http://s226.photobucket.com/user/HulkFights/media/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/2.jpg.html
http://s226.photobucket.com/user/HulkFights/media-full/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/3.jpg.html

Two or more hits probably would have killed him.

Thor once said that Ulik with his pounders was pounding his bones into dust but I chalk that up as hyperbole.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Even though Thor's standing there relatively undamaged, two more blows would have killed him? Can't say that I buy that...

Undamaged? He is leaking blood from his mouth, and not a little bit either and he struggled to stand up. You could be correct about the extra punches killing him but those 3 messed him up pretty badly.

http://i.imgur.com/4EvPNQS.jpg

Meh.

Thanos, maybe?

Originally posted by carver9
Undamaged? He is leaking blood from his mouth, and not a little bit either and he struggled to stand up. You could be correct about the extra punches killing him but those 3 messed him up pretty badly.

His nose is just bleeding a bit, he doesn't look like he's having all that hard of a time to me.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
His nose is just bleeding a bit, he doesn't look like he's having all that hard of a time to me.

It states...

Thor has been beaten beyond belief...whether he be dead or alive, Hulk doesn't care (been beaten beyond belief).

However, the Odin son yet live and SLOWLY and PAINFULLY, he rises.

Is that nothing to you? By the way, blood was oozing from his mouth as well and on the side of his face. Are you debating from a cell phone (not trying to be funny)?

You do know what hyperbole is right?

I can say a 3 year old has beaten me beyond belief, it doesn't make it so.

Either way, even if you were right, in the panel after he gets up he looks totally fine, there's no denying that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Zodiac.
Destroyer would disagree. So would Harald Jakelsson.

The Destroyer was more powerful then ever, amped by the spirit of the Designate who alone had access to high end Sky father power IIRC.

Not to mention he had let go of Mjolnir and in that era he gradually changed into Olsen.

Also, Harald would easily be Sky father if he was legitimately that strong and durable. As it stands, it's not relevant.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
You do know what hyperbole is right?

I can say a 3 year old has beaten me beyond belief, it doesn't make it so.

Really? So we have blood coming out of his nose and mouth. We have a scene where he is literally laid out on the ground and then we have him literally getting up slowly. It taking him two panels to rise to his ft and you are using the hyperbole argument? Like, foreal.

Like. For real.

As for the thread. No one here is ripping Thor limbs off or knocking out his teeth, especially looking at everything he has endured. To say otherwise, you would have to literally dig deep into Thor's lowest of lowest showing to prove this case and even then it's debatable. This thread is made to lowball Thor. Don't know why when overall the character is amazing. Maybe we need to make a thread on "who can turn Nimrod to dust with a single punch".

Originally posted by carver9
This is far worse than the Tutinax showing. It even reference Thor death and it was like 3 blows that did this.

http://s226.photobucket.com/user/HulkFights/media/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/2.jpg.html
http://s226.photobucket.com/user/HulkFights/media-full/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/3.jpg.html

Two or more hits probably would have killed him.
I like how you chose scans that left out the surprise attack leading to that scene.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I like how you chose scans that left out the surprise attack leading to that scene.


Hulk transforming in Thor arms? Hulk having enough time to scream rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr? Thor having enough time to look up at him and say "by the gods"?

http://s226.photobucket.com/user/HulkFights/media/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/1.jpg.html

That is surprising huh?

Wait, is Carver arguing that Hulk almost killed Thor there?

Smh, talk about pulling an Abhil. You can argue for a temporary knock out, sure, but that's it.

It said Hulk walked away not caring if Thor was dead or alive, not that Thor was on death's door.

He literally gets up next panel with only a bloody nose to show for a brutal beating that started with a massive sucker attack.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Wait, is Carver arguing that Hulk almost killed Thor there?

Smh, talk about pulling an Abhil. You can argue for a temporary knock out, sure, but that's it.

It said Hulk walked away not caring if Thor was dead or alive, not that Thor was on death's door.

He literally gets up next panel with only a bloody nose to show for a brutal beating that started with a massive sucker attack.

Read back a little. I actually said the opposite. Said that Hulk probably wouldn't have killed Thor there.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm so shocked.

How bad did he beat up the Avengers?

well it was a strange issue... most of it seemed to be narated by mojo and not entirely cannon. it included Thor and Wolverine drunk, sunfire peeing in Thor's beer, Ghost rider lozing connection with Blaze and cutting lose etc.
At the end Rider didn't physicaly hurt Thor

Originally posted by Warlord
sunfire peeing in Thor's beer

YES!

Scan, please!

Originally posted by carver9
Context with the Void showing but overall I agree with you. It's going to take a lot of power to achieve this ft.

I'm just curious, what was the context that you speak of here?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
YES!

Scan, please!

it was just implied and narated by Mojo...still not sure if actually happened or part of mpjo's way to "sell" the story. i'll try to provide the scan later

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk transforming in Thor arms? Hulk having enough time to scream rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr? Thor having enough time to look up at him and say "by the gods"?

http://s226.photobucket.com/user/HulkFights/media/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/1.jpg.html

That is surprising huh?


Get outta here with that drivel.

Umm.. You do know Banner has many times hulked out nigh instantly. Dude he was carrying him to safety in a non defensive position. It's basically a cheap shot. Context is clear for those who can comprehend.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
YES!

Scan, please!

He heated it:
http://s18.postimg.org/7a6mgq06d/Uncanny_Avengers_Annual_001_007.jpghttp://s18.postimg.org/mhmm12s11/Uncanny_Avengers_Annual_001_008.jpg

Also, Thor would out drink Wolverine any day of the week.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Get outta here with that drivel.

Umm.. You do know Banner has many times hulked out nigh instantly. Dude he was carrying him to safety in a non defensive position. It's basically a cheap shot. Context is clear for those who can comprehend.

You want it to be a cheap shot. Thor had enough time to react...Especially with those super speed movements you all tend to go on about. You're just making excuses.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm so shocked.

How bad did he beat up the Avengers? no one could beat him one on one, and thor was the only one who could even contest him with very little success. rogue eventually did the job though.

Thanos, and anyone that can rise to, or surpass his power level.

Originally posted by carver9
You want it to be a cheap shot. Thor had enough time to react...Especially with those super speed movements you all tend to go on about. You're just making excuses.
You remind me a lot of a certain other poster who either refuses to see what's in front of them or just cannot comprehend it.

It's not a unlike this scene Carvster. Now you're going to tell me Supes was not taken by surprise here too right?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SdiStIwZ-xg/UKD5F6FK2aI/AAAAAAAAC98/bIOjlxvH1Rk/s1600/Hero-Envy-Superman-vs-Captain-Marvel001.jpg

http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/3388/140262-jla_02916_super.jpg

Was Superman looking at Captain Marvel before he threw that punch?

Originally posted by carver9
Was Superman looking at Captain Marvel before he threw that punch? Doesn't matter. He was looking straight at him and even questioned Billy at one point.

Edit

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Doesn't matter. He was looking straight at him and even questioned Billy at one point.

AFTER the first punch.

I would say nobody below Thanos level could...

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I would say nobody below Thanos level could...

No one Thanos level could do it either. Including Thanos.

Pre Crisis Val Armorr.

As weak as a peak human, and happens to hit like Pre Crisis Superboy.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The Destroyer was more powerful then ever, amped by the spirit of the Designate who alone had access to high end Sky father power IIRC.

Not to mention he had let go of Mjolnir and in that era he gradually changed into Olsen.

Also, Harald would easily be Sky father if he was legitimately that strong and durable. As it stands, it's not relevant.
I was thinking about when Destroyer literally beat him to death in Thor v2 1.

I don't think Harald would be comparable to Odin, do you?

Originally posted by abhilegend
I was thinking about when Destroyer literally beat him to death in Thor v2 1.

I don't think Harald would be comparable to Odin, do you?

The Destroyer used it's ultimate weapon, the disintegration beam, to finally defeat Thor.

The comic being a Max Imprint written by Ennis allowed extreme brutality, but in the sphere of that book, nothing short of elite Skyfather can compare to Harald in regards to physical durability/strength. Harold in a regular comic would of course not been any match for Odin. But again, he probably wouldn't do nearly as well against Thor.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The Destroyer used it's ultimate weapon, the disintegration beam, to finally defeat Thor.

The comic being a Max Imprint written by Ennis allowed extreme brutality, but in the sphere of that book, nothing short of elite Skyfather can compare to Harald in regards to physical durability/strength. Harold in a regular comic would of course not been any match for Odin. But again, he probably wouldn't do nearly as well against Thor.
Yeah, but he totally beat Thor down physically first.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsDestroyer36v21.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsDestroyer37.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsDestroyer38.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsDestroyer39.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsDestroyer40.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsDestroyer41.jpg

So you do agree he wasn't Odin level, right?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, but he totally beat Thor down physically first.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsDestroyer36v21.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsDestroyer37.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsDestroyer38.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsDestroyer39.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsDestroyer40.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsDestroyer41.jpg

So you do agree he wasn't Odin level, right?



All that proves is that you need to be more powerful then the Destroyer to fit the parameters of this thread and that Thor has ridiculous damage soak to the point it's compared to Adamantium:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer78.jpg

Also no, the Destroyer wasn't on Odin's level in regards to power but this thread isn't about who has the physical edge over Thor, it's about who can physically break him as referenced in the OP. Please do everyone a favor and learn to read.

Even in that arc, he comes back and does well (Albeit with a surprise):
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer89.jpghttp://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer90.jpg

And an injured Thor, against a more powerful Destroyer, under the same writer, ONCE AGAIN, comes back from a brutal ass kicking and does well:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer125.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer126.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer127.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer128.jpg

Dynamic Strength!

romita jr scenes >

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus


All that proves is that you need to be more powerful then the Destroyer to fit the parameters of this thread and that Thor has ridiculous damage soak to the point it's compared to Adamantium:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer78.jpg

Also no, the Destroyer wasn't on Odin's level in regards to power but this thread isn't about who has the physical edge over Thor, it's about who can physically break him as referenced in the OP. Please do everyone a favor and learn to read.

Even in that arc, he comes back and does well (Albeit with a surprise):
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer89.jpghttp://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer90.jpg

And an injured Thor, against a more powerful Destroyer, under the same writer, ONCE AGAIN, comes back from a brutal ass kicking and does well:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer125.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer126.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer127.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer128.jpg

Dynamic Strength!
And what's wrong with what I said? OP said provide a character who can physically maul Thor and Destroyer fits the bill perfectly. It used energy blasts in the fight but he can break Thor's arm, legs and push his face in a forum fight. Do you disagree?

And I literally lol'd at your attempts to dignify Thor's losses at every turn. Someone has inferiority complex I see.

Jahf

Originally posted by abhilegend
And what's wrong with what I said? OP said provide a character who can physically maul Thor and Destroyer fits the bill perfectly. It used energy blasts in the fight but he can break Thor's arm, legs and push his face in a forum fight. Do you disagree?


First of all, the fight you referenced is a horrible support example for your point as for the first half, Thor was purposefully absorbing ridiculous amounts of damage, and even after the repeated beating, he wasn't nearly in as bad a state as the OP asked.

Also, there are literally entire issues dedicated to the Destroyer beating on Thor and the Odinson getting right back up despite the ridiculous power of the armor.

I personally don't think it's feasible even for the armor to be able to shatter Thor to the extent that his arms and legs are broken. I think nothing short of Odin can try to accomplish such a brutal beating.

When it comes to endurance and physical fortitude (I.e. bones) Thor's on the opposite end of the spectrum from Wonder Woman imo.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
First of all, the fight you referenced is a horrible support example for your point as for the first half, Thor was purposefully absorbing ridiculous amounts of damage, and even after the repeated beating, he wasn't nearly in as bad a state as the OP asked.

Also, there are literally entire issues dedicated to the Destroyer beating on Thor and the Odinson getting right back up despite the ridiculous power of the armor.

I personally don't think it's feasible even for the armor to be able to shatter Thor to the extent that his arms and legs are broken. I think nothing short of Odin can try to accomplish such a brutal beating.

When it comes to endurance and physical fortitude (I.e. bones) Thor's on the opposite end of the spectrum from Wonder Woman imo.
And there is nothing stopping Destroyer pounding Thor into a paste in a forum setting since Thor can't actually hurt it and it doesn't gets tired.

Thor has ridiculous damage soak, no doubt about it. But even he would get broken in a slugfest with Destroyer, any herald would.

Odin can and has done it and Destroyer would too, it would take some long time.

Oh and H/P Doomsday would break Thor in half.

Rage you don't believe that Thanos would be able to eventually beat the snot out of Thor? When last I checked none of Thor's blows worked against Thanos. Thanos on the other hand was pushing Thor around. Do you think that that was a good showing for Thanos? If so what about when Thor had the Power gem, and was still unable to put Thanos down.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And there is nothing stopping Destroyer pounding Thor into a paste in a forum setting since Thor can't actually hurt it and it doesn't gets tired.

Thor has ridiculous damage soak, no doubt about it. But even he would get broken in a slugfest with Destroyer, any herald would.

Odin can and has done it and Destroyer would too, it would take some long time.

Oh and H/P Doomsday would break Thor in half.

He can knock Thor out eventually but physically shatter him and break his bones? That's not very realistic.

It'd require some contrived scenarios such as Thor's arm being on a Adamantium slab as the Destroyer continuously pounds away for a nondescript but incredibly long amount of time.

When has Odin accomplished this? When he wrecked Masterson, he was depowered.

Unfortunately, Thor's bones don't break as easily as Superman's.

I guess it might be possible for someone like Hunter Prey or the Destroyer, with sufficient amount of time to do this kind of damage, but it is unlikely if not downright impossible in any scenario where Thor is fighting back.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He can knock Thor out eventually but physically shatter him and break his bones? That's not very realistic.

It'd require some contrived scenarios such as Thor's arm being on a Adamantium slab as the Destroyer continuously pounds away for a nondescript but incredibly long amount of time.

When has Odin accomplished this? When he wrecked Masterson, he was depowered.

Unfortunately, Thor's bones don't break as easily as Superman's.

I guess it might be possible for someone like Hunter Prey or the Destroyer, with sufficient amount of time to do this kind of damage, but it is unlikely if not downright impossible in any scenario where Thor is fighting back.

Actually the Destroyer did break Thor's arm several years ago during a fight, and it wasn't pinned down by anything. The Destroyer (I believe Tarene was within it) took Thor's hammer away from him, and shattered his arm.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Who is the weakest character that can break Thors arms, break his legs, and knock all the teeth out of his mouth with nothing but pure brute force?

100% melee battle and no other powers, abilities, or tech is allowed (Thor only gets Mjolnir here)...

Who is the weakest character that can physically dominate Thor to such an extent? An out of character Superman.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He can knock Thor out eventually but physically shatter him and break his bones? That's not very realistic.

It'd require some contrived scenarios such as Thor's arm being on a Adamantium slab as the Destroyer continuously pounds away for a nondescript but incredibly long amount of time.

When has Odin accomplished this? When he wrecked Masterson, he was depowered.

Unfortunately, Thor's bones don't break as easily as Superman's.

I guess it might be possible for someone like Hunter Prey or the Destroyer, with sufficient amount of time to do this kind of damage, but it is unlikely if not downright impossible in any scenario where Thor is fighting back.
So now even Odin and destroyer have trouble with breaking Thor's arms?


Hahaha. You think Thor's bones are more durable than Superman, let alone a Superman amped to this degree?

Originally posted by Galan007
Section IV: H/P ("Hunter/Prey" Doomsday


It turns out that Superman was substantially amped when he battled H/P Doomsday--before he even acquired a Mother Box...

A few months before the H/P arc began, a depowered Superman encountered Henshaw in 'Superman' v2 #82. As you can see, Henshaw attempted to kill Supes via blasting him with k-nite, but Eradicator jumped in the way of the blast before it directly touched Supes(essentially sacrificing himself), and the bleed-over energies then passed into Superman himself. After this happened, Supes was not only returned to full power, but he felt better than ever:
http://imgur.com/afwas1f
http://imgur.com/rTviBRf
http://imgur.com/sIa6JDf
http://imgur.com/aifJIPm
http://imgur.com/f7Mln3d
http://imgur.com/UAFgRuW
http://imgur.com/nAPpc9q
"I'm rejuvenated in a way I never thought possible! Something tells me I'll be able to handle anything better than ever!"
__________

Soon thereafter(the same month/year the H/P arc began), it would be revealed that Superman had become immensely more powerful. Examples...

"Just tapped him a little... And he flew back like I hit him with my best haymaker!":
http://imgur.com/cyXBzZW

"Even using as little effort as possible, I'm still stronger...faster...and more powerful than ever before!":
http://imgur.com/Us6v8mS
__________

Hamilton explains Superman's amp...

"You're absorbing solar radiation--and other energies--much faster than ever before! This is because you've been irradiated by something vaguely familiar to Kryptonite--call it Kryptonite-X."

Superman: "The last time I was exposed to Kryptonite, it passed through the Eradiactor first... Recharging my powers instantly!"

Hamilton: "A bit of foreshadowing there, I'd say. Bluntly, there's no physical way to expend your energy fast enough. Your powers will keep increasing until your body can't contain them.":
http://imgur.com/Q4ptobr
http://imgur.com/1Sb6SFT
__________

His power increase was ambiguously alluded to during the H/P arc itself...

I'm better than before, too! Stronger.":
http://imgur.com/8cCM1Ii
__________

However, his hugely amplified power during the H/P arc would be flat-out stated years later, in 'The Man of Tomorrow' #9...

"After his recovery, was stronger than ever. Good thing, too--'cause Doomsday had cheated death as well! Even with the extra power, he still needed some gizmo called a 'Mother Box' to help him stand up to Doomsday.":
http://imgur.com/SuRu2cz




In a nutshell: Superman was massively amped when the H/P arc began(to the point that he could use as little effort as possible, and was still more powerful than he was at his standard levels), yet was laughably inferior to H/P Doomsday. He then further amped his powers with a Mother Box, and was still barely able to give DD pause.

That is a huge testament to how f*cking powerful Doomsday was during that arc. FAR more powerful than I'd previously thought, tbh.

If you think so, you're delusional. Simple as that. In fact Superman would turn Thor's bones into dust if ****ing Ulik with his pounders was doing it to Thor.

http://i.imgur.com/4EvPNQS.jpg

And I may have to remind you, you ran away when I created Thor/Superman durability thread. I can easily bump it if you want to discuss their comparative durability.

Originally posted by carver9
This thread is made to lowball Thor. Don't know why when overall the character is amazing. Maybe we need to make a thread on "who can turn Nimrod to dust with a single punch".

What are you basing this belief upon?

I simply thought it was a unique, interesting, thread idea that went beyond the standard "Character A vs Character B....who wins" type of thread...

You could make a "who could turn Nimrod into dust with a single punch thread" btw; I don't have that kind of fanboyish allegiance to any character and it wouldn't bother me one bit...

Interesting debate thus far guys...

I've seen some pretty good answers so far...

I am thinking that the Destroyer would eventually be able to do it (after having KO'ed Thor 1st)...

Hunter Prey Doomsday (seeing as how he was capable of breaking the Superman's arm) should be able to do it...

But since we are looking for the weakest character who can do it, whats wrong with a sufficiently enraged Hulk (who only tiers as a Mid Herald) accomplishing this?

I don't see why Hulk unbound (as he was when he shattered Onslaughts armor) would be incapable of breaking Thor...

Originally posted by zopzop
I think like twice, Tutinax had him at his mercy but was stopped by Ghaur. Once the fight was out of Thor (ie he was unconscious) what would stop Tutinax from tearing him apart?

Interesting!

And he did have Thor at his mercy...

I honestly don't see why he couldn't tear Thor apart while he had him unconscious...

Originally posted by abhilegend
And there is nothing stopping Destroyer pounding Thor into a paste in a forum setting since Thor can't actually hurt it and it doesn't gets tired.

Thor has ridiculous damage soak, no doubt about it. But even he would get broken in a slugfest with Destroyer, any herald would.

Odin can and has done it and Destroyer would too, it would take some long time.

Oh and H/P Doomsday would break Thor in half.

Destroyer and H/P Doomsday sound about right.
And there's no shame in this IMO

His old man probobly. I dont think anyone below Odin could do it. DC side dont know

Originally posted by Stoic
Actually the Destroyer did break Thor's arm several years ago during a fight, and it wasn't pinned down by anything. The Destroyer (I believe Tarene was within it) took Thor's hammer away from him, and shattered his arm.
Yes. Destroyer powered by Tarene's life force did beat the shiet out of Thor and eventually broke his arm in the process.

Destroyer beat the shiet out of him like you wouldn't believe.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So now even Odin and destroyer have trouble with breaking Thor's arms?

Hahaha. You think Thor's bones are more durable than Superman, let alone a Superman amped to this degree.

If you think so, you're delusional. Simple as that. In fact Superman would turn Thor's bones into dust if ****ing Ulik with his pounders was doing it to Thor.

http://i.imgur.com/4EvPNQS.jpg

And I may have to remind you, you ran away when I created Thor/Superman durability thread. I can easily bump it if you want to discuss their comparative durability.

Did I not say repeatedly that Odin could do it? What is wrong with you?

And yes, the Destroyer WOULD have trouble doing so. What is so shocking about this? Literally decades worth of encounters backs this up.

I think historically, Superman's bones have been broken more often, and with less force then Thor's. This being a fact that upsets you doesn't matter in the least to me. While I'm sure if the tables were reversed, you'd be arguing for a clear superiority to Superman, I actually think they are more or less equal but Thor's skeletal structure is unnaturally dense.

What do you always call it when Thor has a good feat? Oh yeah, hyperbole.

But seriously, you post that, but neglect to mention that Thor was actually fine:
http://s2.postimg.org/wnh5i2nbp/Thor_Annual_1985_013_23.jpg

Or that the fight showed repeatedly that while they hurt, Thor can tank Ulik's pounders:
http://s2.postimg.org/xabgtuutx/Thor_Annual_1985_013_20.jpghttp://s2.postimg.org/s0b3gazyt/Thor_Annual_1985_013_21.jpg

Not to mention Thor was actually weak and depressed in this issue and his heart wasn't in the fight. He only regained some fight in the end in his anger:
http://s24.postimg.org/wh2y7rfox/Thor_Annual_1985_013_24.jpghttp://s24.postimg.org/guboue1wx/Thor_Annual_1985_013_25.jpghttp://s24.postimg.org/o03fwub01/Thor_Annual_1985_013_26.jpg

As a matter of fact, in the same issue, he broke restraints ten times stronger then Ulik. Dynamic strength!

Originally posted by Stoic
Actually the Destroyer did break Thor's arm several years ago during a fight, and it wasn't pinned down by anything. The Destroyer (I believe Tarene was within it) took Thor's hammer away from him, and shattered his arm.

That Destroyer was amped beyond it's regular levels with a powerful host.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Did I not say repeatedly that Odin could do it? What is wrong with you? And yet you say that Odin has never done it too. So why he?

Decades of encounters where Destroyer has been stooped by outside interference. Here it would not stop.

Hahaha. You are really cute when you forget the last thound times you got your ass handed to you at this very topic. We could bump the durability thread right now if you want. It actually amuses me. I know you will run away again, but fire away all the instances. Superman IS more durable than Thor in every sense rage. If you want we could compare the durability feats right away.

Yeah, that's rich coming from you clinging to every word Thor says.

See what I said about inferiority complex? Weak and depressed? Lulz @ that being mentioned as if Thor is sentry or gladiator.

Jelly has done wonders on you I see.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And yet you say that Odin has never done it too. So why he?

Decades of encounters where Destroyer has been stooped by outside interference. Here it would not stop.

Because Odin is who I believe has the necessary power to try and accomplish the description of the OP in an actual fight in a maybe reasonable amount of time. If Thor's record against Odin was similar to his record against the Destroyer's, my answer would be the same for both.

What are you talking about? The two have brawled for an entire issue before in the past.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hahaha. You are really cute when you forget the last thound times you got your ass handed to you at this very topic. We could bump the durability thread right now if you want. It actually amuses me. I know you will run away again, but fire away all the instances. Superman IS more durable than Thor in every sense rage. If you want we could compare the durability feats right away.

Yes, I'm sure if we go through our posting history, it'll be me who's been worse off in our discussions. Lol.

You still seem to be overlooking the very simple fact that Superman's bones have been broken more often and with less force then Thor's. Superman has his encounter with Hunter Prey, Zod, and the Imperiex Probe off of the top of my head. Thor has had his encounter with the amped Destroyer (While being in a weakened transformation). What's funny is that it would perfectly reasonable to write it off as a circumstance of more outlier type showings but you so often lowball, that it is not a feasible defense.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, that's rich coming from you clinging to every word Thor says.

See what I said about inferiority complex? Weak and depressed? Lulz @ that being mentioned as if Thor is sentry or gladiator.

Jelly has done wonders on you I see.

Not just Thor, but every other character, including the narration and the rest of the comic. It means reading a comic and being honest about what occurs.

Why wouldn't it be mentioned? This very comic makes it particularly clear that it IS something that needs to be mentioned as Thor's mental state is having a huge influence on his performance against Ulik. And this isn't just about fighting spirit, he's literally been able to take more damage and dish out more damage at the end of some fights because he's been pushed to the brink or his spirit has been reignited.

What does a poster from a different board have to do with anything?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Because Odin is who I believe has the necessary power to try and accomplish the description of the OP in an actual fight in a maybe reasonable amount of time. If Thor's record against Odin was similar to his record against the Destroyer's, my answer would be the same for both. I'd say Bor would like to have a word with you. Thor himself admitted Bor would've killed him after he broke OF Thor's ribs with a glancing hit.

So? They stopped eventually, didn't they? Why is this so hard for you to grasp that Destroyer would maul Thor after a while?



In Superman/Thor discussions? Sure thing bro.

http://herochat.com/forum/index.php?topic=254940.80

Really? I don't think Superman was ever in danger of dying from being crushed by a crushing machine.

http://i.imgur.com/kw2hQsj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/G1J9oJp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UgIV5LQ.jpg

I could post numerous such examples. But who cares.

All of them would break Thor's bones too. And Bor while being amped broke his ribs with a glancing hit, Ulik was dusting his bones etc. You see Superman getting his bones broken by Doomsday or Zod or Probes is an "OMGWTF" scene. Thor getting his bones broken isn't. And even that amped Destroyer wasn't as strong as H/P Doomsday who is the only one to do something like that in a fight. Sif took a bunch of attacks from it in the same issue where it broke Thor's arm. I can't see Sif taking an attack from Doomsday and standing. Lulz, you are so full of yourself its outright comical.



Hahaha, so now Thor was hyperboling about his own health? Strange how that works.

Its called holding back rage. Thor can't hold back his durability though. Adrenaline rush. People in real life can do so too.

You are using "dynamic strength" too often nowadays.

And since Wolverine didn't cut off KT's arm according to thorbags, either Hulk or Thing tore off Thor's entire arm in reigning.

Iron patriot

Originally posted by abhilegend
he dominated him lol

Originally posted by Insane Titan
he dominated him lol
Thor was depressed and sad, so it doesn't counts. Rage's word is law.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
he dominated him lol
You can't be serious?

Was IP amped? Thor weakened? Was the writer Bendis?

Originally posted by zopzop
You can't be serious?

Was IP amped? Thor weakened? Was the writer Bendis? did you read seige? Tbf it wasn't like that I'm just ignoring context KMC style

This is the stuff of legends though.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It'd require some contrived scenarios such as Thor's arm being on a Adamantium slab as the Destroyer continuously pounds away for a nondescript but incredibly long amount of time.

Originally posted by zopzop
You can't be serious?

Was IP amped? Thor weakened? Was the writer Bendis?

Never happened.

Originally posted by Warlord
Destroyer and H/P Doomsday sound about right.
And there's no shame in this IMO



Agreed 100%...

These are the most logical sure fire choices...

Badoon fodder.

HP Doomsday isn't breaking Thor arms.

Originally posted by carver9
HP Doomsday isn't breaking Thor arms.
He would. Easily at that.

Originally posted by carver9
Never happened. I was been sarcastic, yet you have used my "example" in a debate lol

Originally posted by abhilegend
He would. Easily at that.

Nope. He isn't breaking Thor arms. Sorry.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No one Thanos level could do it either. Including Thanos.

Negative Big Buddy... Thanos could do it.. He's physically dominated Thor before and even just recently. He certainly could and has. In order to dominate him like the OP says.. it might be a somewhat high end showing for Thanos.. but I wouldn't put it past him either. He's Thor physical superior as you've noted.

Ohhh and BTW.. I think superman is more invulnerable to piercing attacks and probably has better overall durability. I think Thor has slightly better durability to Blunt force attacks.

That said, you have to admit abhi... Superman has gotten his bones broken more than Thor has.

Ok I got another one : P5 Emma. She literally took his manhood.

So far I got :
1) A sufficiently enraged Hulk
2) Tutinax
3) P5 Emma
4) Thanos

PS the numbering means nothing, I'm just listing the characters in no specific order.

Ghost Rider

Originally posted by "Id"
Ghost Rider
The OP said, dominate to the point of being able to break limbs and stuff. I don't see GR doing that, not even with his current showing vs THor.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Negative Big Buddy... Thanos could do it.. He's physically dominated Thor before and even just recently. He certainly could and has. In order to dominate him like the OP says.. it might be a somewhat high end showing for Thanos.. but I wouldn't put it past him either. He's Thor physical superior as you've noted.

Thanos is nowhere near strong enough to accomplish the requirements of this thread.

I don't think people are actually reading the OP. The opponent has to face Thor in melee combat and defeat him so badly, that he's bones are shattered.

Even Thanos isn't strong enough to damage Thor like that. As a matter of fact, I'd like to see a single piece of evidence supporting such capabilities. The closest would be him beating Surfer to near death, but even then, he didn't do anywhere near the damage the OP requires.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thanos is nowhere near strong enough to accomplish the requirements of this thread.

I don't think people are actually reading the OP. The opponent has to face Thor in melee combat and defeat him so badly, that he's bones are shattered.

Even Thanos isn't strong enough to damage Thor like that. As a matter of fact, I'd like to see a single piece of evidence supporting such capabilities. The closest would be him beating Surfer to near death, but even then, he didn't do anywhere near the damage the OP requires.

I'm not too sure that I agree with you. Cain nearly did it during the 7th, and 8th Day. I don't think that Thor would have lived through that one if there was no intervention. But again, I'm not sure if that was a bad showing for Thor, or just the way that things would turn out if Cain was really in the zone.

Originally posted by carver9
HP Doomsday isn't breaking Thor arms. Damn right he would.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I'd say Bor would like to have a word with you. Thor himself admitted Bor would've killed him after he broke OF Thor's ribs with a glancing hit.

So? They stopped eventually, didn't they? Why is this so hard for you to grasp that Destroyer would maul Thor after a while?

What do you mean glancing? Are you implying it was only a partial blow?

I will admit however that I had forgotten about his fight with Bor.

So now we have two instances of his bones being broken:
- A weakened Thor against an amped Destroyer.
- Bor while taken by surprise by his power.

As far as records go, that is pretty crazy. Especially when we list of all the beings who have beaten on Thor.

Originally posted by abhilegend
In Superman/Thor discussions? Sure thing bro.

http://herochat.com/forum/index.php?topic=254940.80

Really? I don't think Superman was ever in danger of dying from being crushed by a crushing machine.

http://i.imgur.com/kw2hQsj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/G1J9oJp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UgIV5LQ.jpg

I could post numerous such examples. But who cares.

I already made it clear to you where I view Thor/Superman in durability.

You seem to be very excited about linking to that discussion. If you're so confident, do you want to make a battle zone?

A machine made by the Molecule Man. It would have also killed Surfer. How does referencing a being with this much power support your point?

Originally posted by abhilegend
All of them would break Thor's bones too. And Bor while being amped broke his ribs with a glancing hit, Ulik was dusting his bones etc. You see Superman getting his bones broken by Doomsday or Zod or Probes is an "OMGWTF" scene. Thor getting his bones broken isn't. And even that amped Destroyer wasn't as strong as H/P Doomsday who is the only one to do something like that in a fight. Sif took a bunch of attacks from it in the same issue where it broke Thor's arm. I can't see Sif taking an attack from Doomsday and standing. Lulz, you are so full of yourself its outright comical.

No, they, really wouldn't. It'd have to be an extreme outlier.

Ulik was hurting Thor with his barrage but he didn't cause any real injury.

So we know that the Destroyer is in itself ridiculously strong, and in this instance, it was amped by the Designate, who herself can access high end Skyfather power, but it's not as strong as Doomsday? Lol.

Yes, she did. Good feat for Sif, the Asgardians, even the weaker ones like Heimdall, Balder, Volstagg, Sif etc. are an incredibly sturdy lot. They've survived some crazy shit over the years.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hahaha, so now Thor was hyperboling about his own health? Strange how that works.

Its called holding back rage. Thor can't hold back his durability though. Adrenaline rush. People in real life can do so too.

You are using "dynamic strength" too often nowadays.

And since Wolverine didn't cut off KT's arm according to thorbags, either Hulk or Thing tore off Thor's entire arm in reigning.



I don't think Ulik was literally turning his bones to dust or whatever. He was literally unharmed the next panel. If he was significantly damage or perhaps showed some sign of injury, I would agree. This contradiction is easily explainable by Thor's state of depression and weakness at the time. His muscles were also sore and exhausted. Until Ulik pissed him off.

Actually, I could easily make a case for Thor being able to hold back his durability. We've seen his own belief and faith literally define his physical form as recently as Fraction's run.

Adrenaline Rush in real life? Thanks for confirming you aren't from this planet.

Thor has literally struck harder and tanked damage that was previously hurting him AFTER an extended fight.

Yes, Thor did lose an arm fighting Thing AND the Hulk. After HOURS of extended combat. Not to mention the two could have easily been targeting his already injured arm.

Originally posted by Stoic
I'm not too sure that I agree with you. Cain nearly did it during the 7th, and 8th Day. I don't think that Thor would have lived through that one if there was no intervention. But again, I'm not sure if that was a bad showing for Thor, or just the way that things would turn out if Cain was really in the zone.

What are you talking about?

Cain nearly choked Thor out but there is a HUGE difference between getting someone in a hold and taking the breath out of them and literally breaking their bones and shit.

Are people not reading the OP? It's not about who can beat Thor in a melee fight.

Also, Cain was amped immensely for that one particular issue.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thanos is nowhere near strong enough to accomplish the requirements of this thread.

I don't think people are actually reading the OP. The opponent has to face Thor in melee combat and defeat him so badly, that he's bones are shattered.

Even Thanos isn't strong enough to damage Thor like that. As a matter of fact, I'd like to see a single piece of evidence supporting such capabilities. The closest would be him beating Surfer to near death, but even then, he didn't do anywhere near the damage the OP requires.

This isn't close to true... Beating somebody to death is CLOSER and DOING MORE damage than the OP requires... The OP requires thor to have broke arms or legs and teeth knocked out... basically messed up... You can be that messed up and not close to death... Thanos beating somebody close to death is actually doing more damage.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He would. Easily at that.

Now not only will Doomsday certainly accomplish something everyone from the Hulk to Silver Age Mangog have not done, he'll do it easily? Lol.

If you said it was a possibility, that would be believable. Comics after all can be weird (Ex: Superman withstood a beating from the same Doomsday without such damage IIRC), but you can't help yourself, eh?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What are you talking about?

Cain nearly choked Thor out but there is a HUGE difference between getting someone in a hold and taking the breath out of them and literally breaking their bones and shit.

Are people not reading the OP? It's not about who can beat Thor in a melee fight.

Also, Cain was amped immensely for that one particular issue.

I read the OP. I don't know what would have stopped Cain from fulfilling the OP in that instance though. I mean if he KO'd Thor, what would have stopped him from doing just what the OP asks for? You really think that he was vastly amplified? I thought that he was forcibly tapping deeper into the enchantment, due to plot line.

Originally posted by Stoic
I read the OP. I don't know what would have stopped Cain from fulfilling the OP in that instance though. I mean if he KO'd Thor, what would have stopped him from doing just what the OP asks for? You really think that he was vastly amplified? I thought that he was forcibly tapping deeper into the enchantment, due to plot line.

If he knocked out Thor, that doesn't mean he'd be able to easily accomplish the OP.

Thor's durability doesn't just vanish because he's out. A herald as tough as Thor would still be ridiculously hard to kill and damage like the OP suggestts.

Yes, that issue notes in particular that he was amped. Thor said akin to a hundred fold, but that was probably hyperbole. Still, the intention was clear.

But it was only this particular issue. The rest of the event and Juggernaut's interaction with the Exemplars had him at his regular levels.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If he knocked out Thor, that doesn't mean he'd be able to easily accomplish the OP.

Thor's durability doesn't just vanish because he's out. A herald as tough as Thor would still be ridiculously hard to kill and damage like the OP suggestts.

Yes, that issue notes in particular that he was amped. Thor said akin to a hundred fold, but that was probably hyperbole. Still, the intention was clear.

But it was only this particular issue. The rest of the event and Juggernaut's interaction with the Exemplars had him at his regular levels.

Very true. Now what do you think of the Perrikus battle? I mean when they first fought, and Thor reverted to his mortal guise? Do you think that Perikus had a chance of fulfilling the OP? Also do you view Thanos as being below Perrikus? I know how durable Thor is, but in my opinion there are guys out there that could break him. How do you think Tyrant would do against the OP?

Originally posted by Stoic
Very true. Now what do you think of the Perrikus battle? I mean when they first fought, and Thor reverted to his mortal guise? Do you think that Perikus had a chance of fulfilling the OP? Also do you view Thanos as being below Perrikus? I know how durable Thor is, but in my opinion there are guys out there that could break him. How do you think Tyrant would do against the OP?

Are you asking me if Perrikus can break Jake Olsen? Lol, yes I do. Jake Olsen was noticeably more durable then a regular human (A side effect of being Thor's host I'd guess) but it only goes so far.

Perrikus is below Thanos imo. Still easily a High Herald though.

Tyrant would have a better chance then Thanos.

Thanos stopped beating on Surfer once had achieved what he wanted , if he had of carried on Surfer would have been paste

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Are you asking me if Perrikus can break Jake Olsen? Lol, yes I do. Jake Olsen was noticeably more durable then a regular human (A side effect of being Thor's host I'd guess) but it only goes so far.

Perrikus is below Thanos imo. Still easily a High Herald though.

Tyrant would have a better chance then Thanos.

Well before he reverted to Olsen ha ha, it looked as if Thor was taking the worst of the exchange. If a high Herald could do that to Thor, what does that make Thor? I viewed Perrikus as being a step above High Herald. Unless I missed something?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
This isn't close to true... Beating somebody to death is CLOSER and DOING MORE damage than the OP requires... The OP requires thor to have broke arms or legs and teeth knocked out... basically messed up... You can be that messed up and not close to death... Thanos beating somebody close to death is actually doing more damage.

^ Beating the life out of someone vs breaking their limbs, and knocking out a few teeth. Hmmm..............

A high end out of character Superman, Prime, HP DD.
Superman is weakest of the three.

I don't see Superman breaking his bones. Except Sundipped or some shit like that.

People are not thinking about this. Stop throwing out answers without putting thought into it. Yes, Thanos is strong but who bones has he broken that has Herald level durability. Knocking someone out isn't the same as breaking their bones and ripping their arms off. No one mentioned here has did anything close to what the OP said off of brute strength alone.

Originally posted by carver9
People are not thinking about this. Stop throwing out answers without putting thought into it. Yes, Thanos is strong but who bones has he broken that has Herald level durability. Knocking someone out isn't the same as breaking their bones and ripping their arms off. No one mentioned here has did anything close to what the OP said off of brute strength alone.
But he can though. We've seen him beat the Surfer to death with nothing but amped punches.

If he wanted to break his arms, or whatever, you telling me he couldn't once he had the Surfer at his mercy?

I stand by my list :
Thanos
Sufficiently angry Hulk
any of the P5
Tutinax

HP DD is one of the safest bets.

He broke the arm of an equal to Thor. This equal is often considered more durable, and he also happened to be amped with a motherbox. So IMHO everything points to HPDD being capable of accomplishing the OP.

Originally posted by carver9
People are not thinking about this. Stop throwing out answers without putting thought into it. Yes, Thanos is strong but who bones has he broken that has Herald level durability. Knocking someone out isn't the same as breaking their bones and ripping their arms off. No one mentioned here has did anything close to what the OP said off of brute strength alone.

Don't be clownshoes carver today buddy. Beating THE LIFE out of somebody is far far MORE damage and worse than getting broken bones... How is this difficult to comprehend. Surfer durability feats are even more impressive than Thor imo... Think about it.. you can have broken arms.. legs.. and missing teeth and not be close to death. Beating somebody to near death.. to the point where you need to bring their life force back with 7 punches is more damage than broken bones. You're better than this carver

Originally posted by zopzop
But he can though. We've seen him beat the Surfer to death with nothing but amped punches.

If he wanted to break his arms, or whatever, you telling me he couldn't once he had the Surfer at his mercy?

I stand by my list :
Thanos
Sufficiently angry Hulk
any of the P5
Tutinax

Him pounding Surfer to sleep doesn't mean he could break his bones. Surfer's body was still 100 percent clean after the assault Thanos put on Surfer. If Thanos pounding on a Herald didn't do anything when he was awake, what's the difference when he's sleep. Sad thing is, Thor headbutt on Surfer did more damage to Surfer than what Thanos did to him while pounding on Surfer.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Don't be clownshoes carver today buddy. Beating THE LIFE out of somebody is far far MORE damage and worse than getting broken bones... How is this difficult to comprehend. Surfer durability feats are even more impressive than Thor imo... Think about it.. you can have broken arms.. legs.. and missing teeth and not be close to death. Beating somebody to near death.. to the point where you need to bring their life force back with 7 punches is more damage than broken bones. You're better than this carver

And Surfers body was still intact without a scratch on it.

Originally posted by carver9
Him pounding Surfer to sleep doesn't mean he could break his bones. Surfer's body was still 100 percent clean after the assault Thanos put on Surfer. If Thanos pounding on a Herald didn't do anything when he was awake, what's the difference when he's sleep. Sad thing is, Thor headbutt on Surfer did more damage to Surfer than what Thanos did to him while pounding on Surfer.
Carv, Surfer wasn't put "to sleep". He was DEAD, as in not alive. If Thanos wanted to, he could have easily broken limbs. If he could do that to Surfer, Thor isn't fairing any better.

I stand by my list.

Originally posted by carver9
And Surfers body was still intact without a scratch on it.

The idea here is that he could have. The Surfer was dead. This is more severe that breaking a bone or two.

Originally posted by zopzop
Carv, Surfer wasn't put "to sleep". He was DEAD, as in not alive. If Thanos wanted to, he could have easily broken limbs. If he could do that to Surfer, Thor isn't fairing any better.

I stand by my list.

People can get killed by a punch without suffering from broken bones Zop Zop. Thanos killing Surfer doesn't mean he could rip his limbs off. Like I've said, if Thanos pounding on Surfer didn't break anything, what makes you think Thanos pounding on him while he's dead would accomplish something? It's simple. Show Thanos breaking the bones and ripping the arms off someone as durable as Thor.

Originally posted by Stoic
The idea here is that he could have. The Surfer was dead. This is more severe that breaking a bone or two.

Again, him pounding on Surfer doesn't mean he could break his limbs off. People die every day from brain trama without a single broken bone. Do you not understand what the OP is asking you?

Originally posted by carver9
Again, him pounding on Surfer doesn't mean he could break his limbs off. People die every day from brain trama without a single broken bone. Do you not understand what the OP is asking you?

Where in the OP does it state anything about breaking his arms off? He could, but I don't believe that this was in the OP. Thanos dominated Surfer like no other, brother.

I understand Carver's point lol. And theirs. Ugh. I think...im siding with Carvs on this one...overOriginally posted by TheLordofMurder
Who is the weakest character that can break Thors arms, break his legs, and knock all the teeth out of his mouth with nothing but pure brute force?

100% melee battle and no other powers, abilities, or tech is allowed (Thor only gets Mjolnir here)...

Who is the weakest character that can physically dominate Thor to such an extent?

So it depends if Breaking his bones is required to accomplish the mission.

Originally posted by Stoic
Where in the OP does it state anything about breaking his arms off? He could, but I don't believe that this was in the OP. Thanos dominated Surfer like no other, brother.

Lol...I can't believe you don't understand this. Again, Thanos pounding on Surfer (and Surfer body still being as clean and shinny as day which means Thanos only did internal damage) does not mean he could break Surfers bones. Again, if Thanos couldn't break his bone WHILE POUNDING ON HIM (not screaming at you), while Surfer body was still intact without a scratch on it, what makes you think he will be able to do any difference while he's dead? Do you not understand this? Thanos POUNDING on Surfer to the point that it killed him and Surfer didn't have a mark on his body. How is he going to do any difference to a laid out Surfer?

Now what I want you to prove is that Surfer durability change when he is dead vs when he is awake.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Thanos stopped beating on Surfer once had achieved what he wanted , if he had of carried on Surfer would have been paste
Yes. Thanos could have turned Surfer into T1000 liquid metal with that kind of beating.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...I can't believe you don't understand this. Again, Thanos pounding on Surfer (and Surfer body still being as clean and shinny as day which means Thanos only did internal damage) does not mean he could break Surfers bones. Again, if Thanos couldn't break his bone WHILE POUNDING ON HIM (not screaming at you), while Surfer body was still intact without a scratch on it, what makes you think he will be able to do any difference while he's dead? Do you not understand this? Thanos POUNDING on Surfer to the point that it killed him and Surfer didn't have a mark on his body. How is he going to do any difference to a laid out Surfer?

Now what I want you to prove is that Surfer durability change when he is dead vs when he is awake.
Thor caved in Surfer's head with a butt.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...I can't believe you don't understand this. Again, Thanos pounding on Surfer (and Surfer body still being as clean and shinny as day which means Thanos only did internal damage) does not mean he could break Surfers bones. Again, if Thanos couldn't break his bone WHILE POUNDING ON HIM (not screaming at you), while Surfer body was still intact without a scratch on it, what makes you think he will be able to do any difference while he's dead? Do you not understand this? Thanos POUNDING on Surfer to the point that it killed him and Surfer didn't have a mark on his body. How is he going to do any difference to a laid out Surfer?

Now what I want you to prove is that Surfer durability change when he is dead vs when he is awake.

The Surfer is also not Thor, and they both have a different physiology. However, I don't see why Thanos would have been able to sever or break one of the Surfer's limbs. This is what you seem to be having a hard time understanding. In many cases, it would be far easier to be to beat the life out of them. Again this is not Thor. Some writes had the Surfer cut in pieces, and continue to operate. Let's try to stay on course here. This is about Thor, not the Surfer.

Originally posted by Stoic
The Surfer is also not Thor, and they both have a different physiology. However, I don't see why Thanos would have been able to sever or break one of the Surfer's limbs. This is what you seem to be having a hard time understanding. In many cases, it would be far easier to be to beat the life out of them. Again this is not Thor. Some writes had the Surfer cut in pieces, and continue to operate. Let's try to stay on course here. This is about Thor, not the Surfer.

So you're saying that if I got into a fight with Bruce Lee and beat him to death, I could break his bones afterwards? Once you think about that, I want you to think about how durable Thor is and what he and his bones (lol) has endured.

Zeus

Originally posted by Stoic
The Surfer is also not Thor, and they both have a different physiology. However, I don't see why Thanos would not have been able to sever or break one of the Surfer's limbs. This is what you seem to be having a hard time understanding. In many cases, it would be far easier to be to beat the life out of them. Again this is not Thor. Some writes had the Surfer cut in pieces, and continue to operate. Let's try to stay on course here. This is about Thor, not the Surfer.

Originally posted by carver9
So you're saying that if I got into a fight with Bruce Lee and beat him to death, I could break his bones afterwards? Once you think about that, I want you to think about how durable Thor is and what he and his bones (lol) has endured.

What I want you to think about, is that there are guys out there that can break his bones. This would generally be guys above his weight class. I do believe that after a while if they fought that Thor would begin to get hurt, and the longer it went on the more severe the hurt would become. It took 7 hits to kill the Surfer, and he isn't exactly squishy in terms of durability. The Surfer and Thor going all out are just about even. Thanos is above these two. This wouldn't be a tussle Carver.

Originally posted by Stoic
Well before he reverted to Olsen ha ha, it looked as if Thor was taking the worst of the exchange. If a high Herald could do that to Thor, what does that make Thor? I viewed Perrikus as being a step above High Herald. Unless I missed something?

It was pretty even until Mjlonir was cut. And he was holding back.

And Perrikus did not do nearly enough damage to justify this reference. As a matter of fact, Thor was taking that beating and keeping his feet despite the intensity of it.

Also my term High Herald was very conservative. Perrikus's weapon cut Mjolnir in half, he was taking on Hercules and the Destroyer Armor at the same time in combat, shrugged off a blast from the Anti-Force (When a few issues later it hurt Mangog), later on shrugs off a Mjolnir throw AND a blast from the Destroyer, somehow got stronger and did crazy well against King Thor. IIRC he even helped defeat Odin in their original encounter although I believe Odin ended up kicking their ass.

Now that I think about it, I don't know why I called him a Herald level being below Thanos. mhmm

What a Thor fan I am, lowballing the Odinson.

You can make a case for him being High Trans probably. I just didn't want people complaining because Thor kicked his ass in the end when he stopped holding back (As if that's outside the realm of possibility).

Originally posted by carver9
Nope. He isn't breaking Thor arms. Sorry.
He would probably tear Thor's arm off in that maneuver where he broke Superman's arm.Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What do you mean glancing? Are you implying it was only a partial blow? Yup.

You do that a lot.

We could compare that to Superman's record. After all COIE Anti-monitor didn't break Superman's bones with several attacks. He's only slightly more powerful than Odin, right?



And I and several others have owned you on it.

About Superman and Thor's durability? Why not?

Nah, he wasn't powering it. He wasn't powering the machine. So? Superman is more durable than surfer too. Because he wasn't powering the machine?



Nope. Normal showings. Doomsday would probably tear Thor's arm off.

That's not what Thor said.

Yes, its not. We go by what happened on panel and as you've proved that Thor can go toe to toe with it for whole issues, I don't see how anyone can say its even as strong as doomsday. Doomsday would push Thor's shit in.

She has also been nearly killed by a backhand from Masterson. She is a class 30 and your wanking of any character related to Thor is rather comical. And no, it shows for all its hype for designate having skyfather level power, Destroyer had shitty striking power in that issue. You want me to believe Sif can take hits from H/P Doomsday wielding mjolnir and stay on her feet?

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Lots of excuses. Thor said Ulik was battering his bones into dust and could deliver a fatal blow.

Hahaha, you actually believe that?

Yup, I'm from krypton.

So have a lot of heroes. Just ask Spider-man.

That would not happen to Superman. Logan only attacked his forearm.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/King%20Thor/KillsWolverine.jpg

Later when he emerged his arm was torn from his shoulder. Its clear they tore off his arm. Poor Thor.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Yes. Thanos could have turned Surfer into T1000 liquid metal with that kind of beating.

Thor caved in Surfer's head with a butt.
With a butt? How many butts Thor has?

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Originally posted by Stoic
What I want you to think about, is that there are guys out there that can break his bones. This would generally be guys above his weight class. I do believe that after a while if they fought that Thor would begin to get hurt, and the longer it went on the more severe the hurt would become. It took 7 hits to kill the Surfer, and he isn't exactly squishy in terms of durability. The Surfer and Thor going all out are just about even. Thanos is above these two. This wouldn't be a tussle Carver.

Sigh.

Was Surfer skin broken or physically damaged when Thanos killed him. You keep bringing this showing up not knowing that its contradicting your entire argument. Thanos killing Surfer due to blunt force attacks doesn't have a thing to do with breaking bones. This is what you are not realizing. Thanos killed Surfer. Whoop dedoo. Was Surfer physical shell damage? NO. He didn't have a scratch on him. We are not arguing if Thanos could kill Thor, we are arguing if he could break his bone during the process and using Surfer as an example just isn't helping your case since Surfer structure was still intact. Why are you making this so difficult? Now, since we are past that. I want you to provide a scan of Thanos breaking the bones of a character as durable as Thor. You have to have it since you are making this claim.

Like I've told you, I could kill a man with repeated blows to the head, that does not mean that afterwards, I could grab his arms and start breaking his bones. Superman could kill Darkseid with repeated blows to the head. I know for a fact Superman without some type of amp, isn't going to grab Darkseid arms and break them. It aint happening.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
HP DD is one of the safest bets.

He broke the arm of an equal to Thor. This equal is often considered more durable, and he also happened to be amped with a motherbox. So IMHO everything points to HPDD being capable of accomplishing the OP.

He was amped by Kryptonite X, too.

Originally posted by cdtm
He was amped by Kryptonite X, too.
Yeah, anybody who thinks that Doomsday wouldn't break Thor's arm with such an attack is an idiot.

And yeah, the blow which broke Thor's arm was said to fell a mountain.

http://i.imgur.com/KkdrGDV.jpg


Jurgens' Superman outright catches such punches.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/punchcatching/superman148a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/punchcatching/superman148b.jpg

What's funny that Jake Olson survived at least two direct attacks from destroyer. He must be super-duper durable too.

http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/18689154_3321903-028729.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/18689155_3321904-028829.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/18689157_3321906-0281329.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/18689159_3321908-0281529.jpg

Everyone related to Thor is super-duper durable. Such a great logic!!!