Harald Jaekelsson vs (Prime)Garrokk, Mauv-Wendigo, & Dracula

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golem370
Who wins?

stan5677
team dies horribly

pym-ftw
Mauvis is a beast, I don't vote against him.

guy222
Team

stan5677
how are they putting down harald wasnt he truly invulnerable and didnt it take strange with prep to put him down. thor damn near tore his wrists off with mjolnir

carver9
Can someone post some Harald fts.

zopzop
Dracula is key here. He can mindphuck using his hypnosis gaze then give him a bite and it's all over.

How was Harald's resistance vs mind attacks?

-K-M-
Mauvais is so strong even in his base form not even Dr.Strange was sure he could beat him. Even before becoming the Wendigo, he used to battle against the Ancient One.

1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Wolverine_165_01.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Wolverine_165_02.jpg

pym-ftw
Thanks KM, preach to the non believers.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Tbf, Doctor Strange didn't even TRY to fight Harald in a straight up fight because it would have been so hopeless. He straight up said it would have been suicide.

Anyways, Harald stands there as they break themselves on him.

-K-M-
Considering all 3 are high level magical users even above Strange why would they try to fight him with their fists?

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by -K-M-
Considering all 3 are high level magical users even above Strange why would they try to fight him with their fists?

Dracula is above Strange?

And when did Garokk interact with Strange? From what I remember, he had some earth manipulation abilities, telepathy but had no business fighting anyone like Harald. Back in the Savage Land, Cyclops gave him trouble IIRC and Storm gave him serious trouble when he was brainwashed.

-K-M-
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Dracula is above Strange?

And when did Garokk interact with Strange? From what I remember, he had some earth manipulation abilities, telepathy but had no business fighting anyone like Harald. Back in the Savage Land, Cyclops gave him trouble IIRC and Storm gave him serious trouble when he was brainwashed.

Wasn't referring to Dracula, but yes even in those days it was said to be a strange rival back in those times. This is prime Garokk.

So again why would they try to punch him? erm

Galan007
Originally posted by carver9
Can someone post some Harald fts. Spite-stomps Thor:
http://imgur.com/aSksSXF
http://imgur.com/8Q3MkPg
http://imgur.com/VZ0jl33
http://imgur.com/qzCupyp
http://imgur.com/q7XvVPS
http://imgur.com/j3b7dcX
http://imgur.com/i5q9epz
http://imgur.com/iEtJ2RN
http://imgur.com/bfDSNfF
(Note Thor's wrists literally snapping after striking Harald once.)

Strange outright admits that not even he stood a chance against Harald:
http://imgur.com/z6GG381

Harald's OHOTMU bio confirms that he is immune to most physical and magical attacks:
http://imgur.com/NUkleuW

abhilegend
Alternate reality thor/strange though. No real idea how they compare to 616 versions.

Galan007
Wait, what source solidifies Vikings as non-canon? And please don't say "it's a MAX title", because not every MAX title is non-canon.

Heck, not even Harald's OHOTMU bio references him being from an alternate reality...

abhilegend
Originally posted by Galan007
Wait, what source solidifies Vikings as non-canon? And please don't say "it's a MAX title", because not every MAX title is non-canon.

Heck, not even Harald's OHOTMU bio references him being from an alternate reality...
The general tone of the series with thousands of citizens getting killed, New York being destroyed, Iron Man having an outdated armor, Dr. Strange being really OOC and it being a MAX title all point it to be non canon.

Galan007
No on panel material explicitly stating such, then? Just your opinion?

Kay, I'll continue assuming it is canon until a legitimate source says otherwise. thumb up

abhilegend
Originally posted by Galan007
No on panel material explicitly stating such, then? Just your opinion?

Kay, I'll continue assuming it is canon until a legitimate source says otherwise. thumb up
But the MAX title already points it to be non canon.

Galan007
Again, not all MAX titles are non-canon, so that's not good enough for me.

There's also the fact that Harald was given an OHOTMU entry...

abhilegend
Originally posted by Galan007
Again, not all MAX titles are non-canon, so that's not good enough for me.

There's also the fact that Harald was given an OHOTMU entry...
But that's the point, unless you can prove THIS particular MAX title is canon, its non canon.

Can I see the whole bio?

Galan007
Yes, because THAT'S how the burden of proof works, amiright?! roll eyes (sarcastic)

Bio from OHOTMU(2006) #5:
http://i.imgur.com/RfyLKuj.jpg

abhilegend
Umm, yes? Like proving World's Funnest is canon?

Thanks.

leonidas
i'm with galan on this one. there is no proof to suggest the series is non-canon. any reference you find on harald references him as 616 harald. combined with the handbook entry it seems to indicate that yes, the story was intended to be canon.

which i find unfortunate, personally, because i thought it was fairly terrible. it does raise a question though regarding marvel max: which series' HAVE been definitively shown to be non-canon? which have been confirmed to BE canon?

initially i assumed that since the series was only intended for adults, that there was no way it could be canon. but that doesn't seem to be the case, which i confess to finding a little strange...

-K-M-
Just because he has a bio is not proof he is canon or not to 616 as other max characters have had one too.

However, I was always under the assumption it was a story set in 616 but put it as a max story due to the graphic content. Argument can be made for either side. I feel it is canon though

Galan007
Originally posted by leonidas
i'm with galan on this one. there is no proof to suggest the series is non-canon. any reference you find on harald references him as 616 harald. combined with the handbook entry it seems to indicate that yes, the story was intended to be canon. thumb up

I don't need to 'prove' its canonicity when NO signs point to it being non-canon AND the lead antagonist was given a friggin' OHOTMU entry(which also doesn't mention the story being set in an alternate universe.)

Originally posted by leonidas
which have been confirmed to BE canon? Off the top of my head: Wisdom, Alias, and The Hood.

I think the first arc of Punisher was as well, but I can't remember for sure.

abhilegend
Originally posted by -K-M-
Just because he has a bio is not proof he is canon or not to 616 as other max characters have had one too.

However, I was always under the assumption it was a story set in 616 but put it as a max story due to the graphic content. Argument can be made for either side. I feel it is canon though
Which other MAX characters had a bio?

KingD19
Harald seems to be 616 in MAX because of how brutal and gory it is. It's clearly 616. He still has his connections/friendship with Strange, etc...

Then you have some that are clearly not 616 like Luke Cage.

carver9
Originally posted by Galan007
Spite-stomps Thor:
http://imgur.com/aSksSXF
http://imgur.com/8Q3MkPg
http://imgur.com/VZ0jl33
http://imgur.com/qzCupyp
http://imgur.com/q7XvVPS
http://imgur.com/j3b7dcX
http://imgur.com/i5q9epz
http://imgur.com/iEtJ2RN
http://imgur.com/bfDSNfF
(Note Thor's wrists literally snapping after striking Harald once.)

Strange outright admits that not even he stood a chance against Harald:
http://imgur.com/z6GG381

Harald's OHOTMU bio confirms that he is immune to most physical and magical attacks:
http://imgur.com/NUkleuW

Now that was insane. Is his only fight with Thor or does he have others?

Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor SNAPPED his wrists hitting Harald. Just take a second and comprehend how utterly ridiculous that is.

If Thor was fighting Thanos with IG, it might be believable, but anyone else? That's some silly shit imo.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor SNAPPED his wrists hitting Harald. Just take a second and comprehend how utterly ridiculous that is.

If Thor was fighting Thanos with IG, it might be believable, but anyone else? That's some silly shit imo.
Plus Thor's shin snapped(bone protruding) and his face around the eyes broke after he tried kicking and head butting Harald...
jawdrop

zopzop
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor SNAPPED his wrists hitting Harald. Just take a second and comprehend how utterly ridiculous that is.

If Thor was fighting Thanos with IG, it might be believable, but anyone else? That's some silly shit imo. Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Plus Thor's shin snapped(bone protruding) and his face around the eyes broke after he tried kicking and head butting Harald...
jawdrop
And unless I'm it was some random shaman that cursed Harald with that uber @$$ enchantment. Random shaman is high skyfather!roll eyes (sarcastic)

There's no way that's canon (especially seeing the sh|t Thor has withstood). I realize he has a handbook entry but so do people that aren't part of 616 reality.

KingD19
The reason he became so powerful is that the spell never stopped. It was supposed to be a quick spell, but he got killed while performing it and all of his blood seeped into the rune which was powering the curse. And blood magic is pretty damn powerful. It amped the spell a crap ton.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Besides, it was Norse based Rune magic and we already know that shit is pretty hax

ilikecomics
is that the same viking dude that superman fought from the maximums ?

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