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The point of this thread is to create a team within one tier and someone has to create a team that would beat your team for the majority (still within the same tier). Who is brave enough to start this off? Team must consist of 4 people. Can't use any characters over trans.

What tier carv?

Originally posted by pym-ftw
What tier carv?

The tier doesn't matter. Once you create your team, it has to be within 1 tier then someone will challenge your team but their team have to be within the same tier as your team. So you can create a high Herald team if y9u want or a trans, street. It ends at trans tier though. It's an ongoing process. I would start it off but I think everyone will continue to follow whatever character i put together which isn't the point of this thread. So who is your 4. Be the starter Pym.

Edit:

I'll go low Meta

Fat Cobra
Bride of Nine Spiders
Puck
Klaw.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
I'll go low Meta

Tiger's Beautiful Daughter
Fat Cobra
Bride of Nine Spiders
Dog Brother #1
Prince of Orphans
Puck
Wizard
Klaw.



Limit of 4 people!!!

I will challenge you when your team is set.

Iron fist
Midnighter
Blink
Spiderman

Low Meta tier

Originally posted by carver9
Iron fist
Midnighter
Blink
Spiderman

Low Meta tier

Fat Cobra
Bride of Nine Spiders.
Puck
Klaw

...Now what?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
...Now what?

I disagree that his team could beat my team but if I agreed, I could just make another group of 4. It's not all about me though. You can create a team and I will challenge you or Pym or whoever and then you can challenge the team I challenged you with using a more powerful team.

Klaw amps the singing spiders song then Fat Cobra knocks your team out one by one.

Street level

Bucky Cap
Zemo
Kingpin
Moon Knight.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Street level

Bucky Cap
Zemo
Kingpin
Moon Knight.

Bane
Constantine Drakon
Rose Tattoo
Red Hood.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Fat Cobra
Bride of Nine Spiders.
Puck
Klaw


Spot
Shathra
Tombstone
Livin Laser or Electro

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Fat Cobra
Bride of Nine Spiders.
Puck
Klaw

Multiple Man
Maverick
Ambrose Chase
Long shot

Isn't Marerick depowered?

Kinda banking on LS dropping Klaw?Originally posted by golem370
Spot
Shathra
Tombstone
Livin Laser or Electro pretty sure Electro is mid Meta & Living Laser is a low herald

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Bane
Constantine Drakon
Rose Tattoo
Red Hood. you got me here.

Yeah I'm assuming they all have powers btw lol.

And yes. LS for Klaw, IF Ambrose doesn't shoot them all ddead first.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Bane
Constantine Drakon
Rose Tattoo
Red Hood.

Foringer
Punisher
Cat
Bullseye

If Klaw gets Bo9S song up its over, how fast is Ambrose because Klaw can shield the team fairly fast.

Originally posted by golem370
Foringer
Punisher
Cat
Bullseye

I reckon I still win.. Punisher vs Bane in HtH would be tricking brutal though.

Frank stabbing Bane with a compound fracture alone would be cool to see.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
If Klaw gets Bo9S song up its over, how fast is Ambrose because Klaw can shield the team fairly fast.

He's casually deflected multiple bullets from automatic fire before.

But with Long shot there to add some luck, I reckon he could win a quick draw

Foreigner was able to best Spider-man a superhuman

Originally posted by golem370
Foreigner was able to best Spider-man a superhuman

With his hypnosis, right? I reckon Red Hood (maybe I should say which versions? DCnU) would be OK.

If not, I don't think he can hypnotise the Spirit of Death.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He's casually deflected multiple bullets from automatic fire before.

But with Long shot there to add some luck, I reckon he could win a quick draw its hard to argue against Luck, I mean Spider should be able to Deflect bullets but who knows if that would actually help.

I don't think so, but I'm biased.

What Ambrose does IIRC is actually stop time. Localised, sure, so you could argue Bride won't be affected. But anything she shoots at him would enter his time bubble and stop.He just needs to walk up to her.

High Meta Team
Sabastian Shaw
Vector
Flash

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I don't think so, but I'm biased.

What Ambrose does IIRC is actually stop time. Localised, sure, so you could argue Bride won't be affected. But anything she shoots at him would enter his time bubble and stop.He just needs to walk up to her. I meant more deflecting the bullets with her melee weapons, but the time bubble is interesting as it will stop Klaw's song.

Originally posted by golem370
High Meta Team
Sabastian Shaw
Vector
Flash

No way in hell is Flash a High Meta......

Batman 1 Million
Invisible Woman

Originally posted by pym-ftw
If Klaw gets Bo9S song up its over, how fast is Ambrose because Klaw can shield the team fairly fast.


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Originally posted by pym-ftw
Fat Cobra
Bride of Nine Spiders.
Puck
Klaw

Black Tarantula
Gambit
AOL Nightcrawler
X Treme

Originally posted by carver9
Black Tarantula
Gambit
AOL Nightcrawler
X Treme

I thought my team was the one to beat now? As pym said mine would beat his?

High Herald

Superman
Silver Surfer
Thor
Black Alice

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
High Herald

Superman
Silver Surfer
Thor
Black Alice

Hunter Zolomon
Qztr
Cyborg Superman
Swamp Thing.

Is Swampy mystical? I don't see him as a mystic creature. IF he is, then I swap him out for Majestic with Creation Blades.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hunter Zolomon
Qztr
Cyborg Superman
Swamp Thing.

Is Swampy mystical? I don't see him as a mystic creature. IF he is, then I swap him out for Majestic with Creation Blades.

I approve of the swap.

The inclusion of Majestic AND the Creation Blades has lead to a violation.

Your team is DISQUALIFIED !

My Frightful Four are invincible!

In that case, Eradicator in Fortress mode would suffice.

Your team dies.

Zolomon is much faster than most of your team, especially Black Alice (as per forum rules, she wouldn't start out in Thor mode; she'll need to react and realise who to take power from etc).

He's also blitzed Superman before.

Cyborg Superman can handle Thor.

Numbers are on my side. Qztr alone would be a handful.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
In that case, Eradicator in Fortress mode would suffice.

Your team dies.

Zolomon is much faster than most of your team, especially Black Alice (as per forum rules, she wouldn't start out in Thor mode; she'll need to react and realise who to take power from etc).

He's also blitzed Superman before.

Cyborg Superman can handle Thor.

Numbers are on my side. Qztr alone would be a handful.

My team will know to protect Alice first.

Surfer can augment Superman with a solar charge.

YOU. ARE. DOOMED.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
My team will know to protect Alice first.

Surfer can augment Superman with a solar charge.

YOU. ARE. DOOMED.

Knowing and actually doing something are two different things.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/81954/1517474-zoom.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Knowing and actually doing something are two different things.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/81954/1517474-zoom.jpg

If worst comes to worst we have Surfer who can bring her back. Even Thor presents that possibility.

THEN... YOU DIE!

They can do that whilst fighting 4 super tough opponents?

One of which was speed blitzing an AMPED Wally West?

Thor can be mind controlled by Eradicator as Zoom distracts him. Surfer and Superman vs Thor, Zoom (who has already blitzed Superman), Cyborg Superman (who can be amped by Eradicator) AND Qztr, who is a planet buster, and essentially unkillable........

Not likely.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
They can do that whilst fighting 4 super tough opponents?

One of which was speed blitzing an AMPED Wally West?

Thor can be mind controlled by Eradicator as Zoom distracts him. Surfer and Superman vs Thor, Zoom (who has already blitzed Superman), Cyborg Superman (who can be amped by Eradicator) AND Qztr, who is a planet buster, and essentially unkillable........

Not likely.

Let me deal with you now.

Majestic
The Doctor(Shaman)
TAO
Absorbing Man

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Let me deal with now.

Lol.

Your solution for dealing with a guy who, once more, let me reiterate, was blitzing an amped Wally West, who was moving so fast speedsters couldn't react to him...

Is sending two glass cannons (Doctor/TAO) against him?

Qztr teleports Absorbing Man to another galaxy.

Zoom takes TAO/Doctor out. Potentially Absorbing Man too.

Leaving the rest of my team to deal with Majestic.

So far, it looks like my rosters are still top (good thread, carver).

Street level team:
Bane
Constantine Drakon
Rose Tattoo
Red Hood.

Low meta:
Multiple Man
Maverick
Ambrose Chase
Long shot

High meta:
Batman 1M
Invisible Woman
I will add more depending on the circumstances, but golem only had 2 guys on his team.

High Herald:
Qztr
Hunter Zolomon
Cyborg Superman
Swamp Thing.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So far, it looks like my rosters are still top (good thread, carver).

Street level team:
Bane
Constantine Drakon
Rose Tattoo
Red Hood.

Low meta:
Multiple Man
Maverick
Ambrose Chase
Long shot

High meta:
Batman 1M
Invisible Woman
I will add more depending on the circumstances, but golem only had 2 guys on his team.

High Herald:
Qztr
Hunter Zolomon
Cyborg Superman
Swamp Thing.

Street

Shang
Batman (already beat Bane)
Bullseye
Promethius


Low Meta

X treme (top tier martial artist...ran through Shatterstar and the X force. Throw projectiles that doesn't miss and once blood is drawn he can boil you from the inside out). Spiderman like agility and super speed (probably faster. He blitzed the X force before they had the chance to react).
Gorgon (stone stare)
Omega Red (death spores)
Blink (turn the entire battle field into a bfr field. Can't move without falling inside of a hole that could probably drop you inside the sun.)

High Meta

Miss Martian
Emma Frost
Northstar
Grey Hulk

High Herald

Surfer
The Runner (he will fight Zoom. Not only does he possess true speed, he has the ability to affect Zooms mentality).
Captain Atom (can slow down time while moving as fast as Flash. Can screw around with atoms...the guy can do anything)
New Sun (a being made out of energy and he can blow you up from the inside out just by looking at you)

Originally posted by carver9
Street

Shang
Batman (already beat Bane)
Bullseye
Promethius


Bullseye would get whupped by Drakon. Prometheus without prep isn't all that; not to mention, his database only includes data on heroes. None of mine are. Rose Tattoo would kill them.....



Not with Longshot there to help my team out. And again, Ambrose Chase stops time. He isn't 'just' a speedster. Gorgom/OR/X treme are all super fast - but Ambrose has the time stop. Would he be able to do anything before your team does it? Yes. Because luck is on their side.

Or I just bury Gorgon in Multiple Men stone statues lol.



I add to my team of Batman 1M and Invisible Woman:

Abomination
Mortal Hercules (with all of his standard equipment).

Northstar is the biggest problem, what with his speed. Can Bat 1M create enough avatars to soul suck Northstar? Debatable. As long as IW can create a shield for the team (as she often does) then there's nothing Northstar can do.

With regards to your psychics, Shield of Perseus will take care of them.



Runner is Trans.
I'd argue DCnU Cap is above HH too.

New Sun can be dealt with by Qztr.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol.

Your solution for dealing with a guy who, once more, let me reiterate, was blitzing an amped Wally West, who was moving so fast speedsters couldn't react to him...

Is sending two glass cannons (Doctor/TAO) against him?

Qztr teleports Absorbing Man to another galaxy.

Zoom takes TAO/Doctor out. Potentially Absorbing Man too.

Leaving the rest of my team to deal with Majestic.

TAO's power works on sight.

ZOOM monologues and he is done.

The Doctor can tank an initial hit.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
TAO's power works on sight.

ZOOM monologues and he is done.

The Doctor can tank an initial hit.

Tao's powers work on sight, yes, but he has to talk.

Zolomon is able to blitz Jay Garrick, who is a damn sight faster than either Doctor or Tao.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124784/3348838-flash+v2+198+%2820%29.jpg

Even when monologuing, he would be way above their speed. Again, he was so fast, a BLOODLUSTED Wally was unable to understand what he was saying until he slowed himself down just to make him understand.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124784/3348886-file0011a.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124784/3348887-file0012a.jpg

The rest of the 'fight'

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TAO's powers can work with a simple facial movement.

CANON!

I will humble Darksaint once and for all.

1.Sentinel(Alan Scott)
2.Dr. Fate
3.Thor
4.Sodam Yat

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
TAO's powers can work with a simple facial movement.

CANON!

......

Zoom exists outside of time. A facial movement is great, but he still needs time.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124784/3348871-flash+%5Bv2%5D+%23200+page+15.jpg

Wally needed Bart, Jay AND Jesse Quick, just to be able to interact with him. Even then, like he said, he lived 'between the ticks of a second'

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I will humble Darksaint once and for all.

1.Sentinel(Alan Scott)
2.Dr. Fate
3.Thor
4.Sodam Yat

Fate is trans.
Sentinel would also be trans.

My try
Street level team:
Bane
Constantine Drakon
Rose Tattoo
Red Hood

vs

Foreniger
Beldame- http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character2.asp?UniqueId=561
Taskmaster
Baron Zemo


Low meta:
Multiple Man
Maverick
Ambrose Chase
Long shot

vs

Sue Richards
Tempo- http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character2.asp?UniqueId=1312
Kaine
Domino


High meta:
Batman 1M
Invisible Woman

vs

Centurius- Centurius
Zero - http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character2.asp?UniqueId=867
Angler- http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character2.asp?UniqueId=1535
Glorian- http://marvel.com/universe/Glorian
Bloodscream- http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character2.asp?UniqueId=230


High Herald:
Qztr
Hunter Zolomon
Cyborg Superman
Swamp Thing?

vs

Nebulon
Overmind
Morg/w WOL
Goblyn Queen

Cool matchups, I'll try and break them down.

Originally posted by golem370
My try
Street level team:
Bane
Constantine Drakon
Rose Tattoo
Red Hood

vs

Foreniger
Beldame- http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character2.asp?UniqueId=561
Taskmaster
Baron Zemo

Beldame looks the toughest, but the others can be dealt with. I am open to being convinced.


Invisible Woman is a High Meta. Ineligible. But the others look to be a good match for mine, except Longshot's luck > Domino's. Maverick would deal with Kaine.





I will admit, I have not heard of many of your picks. Are you sure they are in the right tier? Based on their bios, I am inclined to say not? But am happy to be convinced.

IOW: tough match for my team. I've subsequently added mortal Hercules (see my match with carver above), who has the shield of Perseus, which 1-shot kills your entire team (it turns them all into stone). This is especially true with Bloodscream, Herc is tailor made to kill him. I also added Abomination, although I wanted Miss Martian, who I now swap for.


Qztr can take care of your team on his own.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
......

Zoom exists outside of time. A facial movement is great, but he still needs time.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124784/3348871-flash+%5Bv2%5D+%23200+page+15.jpg

Wally needed Bart, Jay AND Jesse Quick, just to be able to interact with him. Even then, like he said, he lived 'between the ticks of a second'

I hereby DISQUALIFY ZOOM from the High herald tier!

http://i.lvme.me/xmeh35.jpg

Never was this more appropriate.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cool matchups, I'll try and break them down.



Beldame looks the toughest, but the others can be dealt with. I am open to being convinced. Leech for Sue.


Glorian can use Tachyon giving him beyond light speed movement and the ability to warp reality within a ten mile radius


Invisible Woman is a High Meta. Ineligible. But the others look to be a good match for mine, except Longshot's luck > Domino's. Maverick would deal with Kaine.

Kaine is stronger and faster




I will admit, I have not heard of many of your picks. Are you sure they are in the right tier? Based on their bios, I am inclined to say not? But am happy to be convinced.

IOW: tough match for my team. I've subsequently added mortal Hercules (see my match with carver above), who has the shield of Perseus, which 1-shot kills your entire team (it turns them all into stone). This is especially true with Bloodscream, Herc is tailor made to kill him. I also added Abomination, although I wanted Miss Martian, who I now swap for.


Qztr can take care of your team on his own.


If He is able to defeat my team then he has to be higher than high herald because Morg alone is high herald.

He does it through BFR. Qztr can teleport people (and has done so in battle) across the galaxy.
He can also do it without touching people, just looking at them.

I found him in the tier thread.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
http://i.lvme.me/xmeh35.jpg

Never was this more appropriate.

As the King of Canon I DO have a say!

King of whatnow?

Originally posted by -Pr-
King of whatnow?

You see it, CANON!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Fate is trans.
Sentinel would also be trans.

INFINITY MAN
Genis-Vell
Thor
Sodam Yat

The Champ is here!