What 6 Heralds can beat this team of three with CIS off?

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carver9
Team of 3...

Flash - Wally
Zoom - (the one that took on the Flashes)
Flash - Barry

LeonBuco666
GR
Loki
Absorbing man
Supes
Baron Zemo
MM

yaadaveyaa
pick a coup;le big tanks like juggernaut and hulk superman gl hal and give me a couple telepaths prof x and emma ftw

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by LeonBuco666
GR
Loki
Absorbing man
Supes
Baron Zemo
MM

Lol.

Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
pick a coup;le big tanks like juggernaut and hulk superman gl hal and give me a couple telepaths prof x and emma ftw

Double lol.

As for my picks....

Deadman. He would solo.

LeonBuco666
Gotta be herald level, Loki has hypnostized the surfer before and read his past.

He can read a walls past
Hes a great telepath.

DarkRaiden
Loki
Juggernaut
Monica Rambeau
Darwin (is he herald level?)
Dr. Doom
Thor

DarkSaint85
Lol. Not sure people realise just how fast Zoom was.

He, in the middle of his battle with (what we can assume is a bloodlusted) Wally, LEFT him, ran back to Keystone City to check up on Linda, and returned back to the fight. Without Wally knowing what the hell was up.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/103530/3474253-2.png
Crazy feat.

When Wally, the fastest of the Flashes, was amped by Bart, Jay AND Jesse, he could only barely keep up with the guy.

Plus, he has his own durability feats of his own, too.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_zoom4.jpg
Flash punches him so hard he tears his own muscles. He doesn't get fazed.

yaadaveyaa
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol. Not sure people realise just how fast Zoom was.

He, in the middle of his battle with (what we can assume is a bloodlusted) Wally, LEFT him, ran back to Keystone City to check up on Linda, and returned back to the fight. Without Wally knowing what the hell was up.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/103530/3474253-2.png
Crazy feat.

When Wally, the fastest of the Flashes, was amped by Bart, Jay AND Jesse, he could only barely keep up with the guy.

Plus, he has his own durability feats of his own, too.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_zoom4.jpg
Flash punches him so hard he tears his own muscles. He doesn't get fazed.

no doubt very impressive... explain this to me... how does he get thru juggernaut... he doesnt

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
no doubt very impressive... explain this to me... how does he get thru juggernaut... he doesnt

Barry/Wally alter the timeline. Or just dig a pit deep enough to throw him in (in the absence of cement)

Or just vibrate him enough to make him sink.....and keep sinking.

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/spiderjugs6.jpg

Good enough for a forum win.

heisetx
Juggy and Hulk snap...


Just kidding.


Surfer,
a mid level magic user who can slow down time (Morgan la fey)
A mid level telepath
Gladiator
Juggernaut
Rogue

DarkSaint85
Just a reminder of how fast he was...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/135702/2936548-2684601_587525_flashv2_199_16.jpg

yaadaveyaa
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Barry/Wally alter the timeline. Or just dig a pit deep enough to throw him in (in the absence of cement)

Or just vibrate him enough to make him sink.....and keep sinking.

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/spiderjugs6.jpg

Good enough for a forum win.

cement doesnt stop juggernaut they have to ko him or kill him and they cant do either

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
cement doesnt stop juggernaut they have to ko him or kill him and they cant do either

From the rules:



Would Juggy be able to build up momentum whilst underground? I'll need to see scans he can, considering the example I've seen, it took him aaages to get out. And the time it'll take him, would be a forum win.

Not to mention, he can't beat the speed team. So the question is moot, because Juggy cannot beat them even if he was somehow able to get back in a reasonable amount of time.

DarkSaint85
Cassidy was waiting for a fair amount of time....

http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chronocomic/entries/scans10/ASM230_End.jpg

Galan007
Originally posted by DarkSaint85

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_zoom4.jpg
Flash punches him so hard he tears his own muscles. He doesn't get fazed. link isn't working, but it's worth noting that flash hit zoom while moving "over one hundred thousand miles a second."

DarkSaint85
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124784/3215971-1806129435-zoom4.jpg

carver9
Darksaint is in here owning.

golem370
Quantum- http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/RapSheetMain/Character2.asp?UniqueId=405

Proxima Midnight

Ultron

Helix

Gravtion

Vulcan

DarkSaint85
Still no, IMO.

yaadaveyaa
ultron is above herald lvl isnt he? if we can use ultron he'd b perfect for this scenario

golem370
Proxima has her weapon Vulcan might be able to absorb the speed force Helix can adapt and is strong enough to withstand until he does etc etc I think with all of there ability they have a good chance.

DarkSaint85
Ultron is above herald.

Zoom does not rely on the Speed force, plus good luck on trying to wrest control from THE two top dogs.

Proximas weapon would be too slow, plus Proxima herself lacks the reactions

carver9
Originally posted by golem370
Proxima has her weapon Vulcan might be able to absorb the speed force Helix can adapt and is strong enough to withstand until he does etc etc I think with all of there ability they have a good chance.

Is she fast enough to launch her weapons before getting hit with a thousand blows? Is Vulcan fast enough to absorb anything against an opponent that thinks and moves much faster than light?

golem370
Does those thousand of punches do enough damage to drop any of these guys?

yaadaveyaa
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ultron is above herald.

Zoom does not rely on the Speed force, plus good luck on trying to wrest control from THE two top dogs.

Proximas weapon would be too slow, plus Proxima herself lacks the reactions

lets say for sake of argument we could use ultron... would he make a big impact?

pym-ftw
Man-thing
Flash Bart
Graviton
Loki
Juggernaut
Shadow king.

LordofBrooklyn
Sentry
Silver Surfer
Sodam Yat
Zauriel
Void TAO
Nemesis kid

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Man-thing
Flash Bart
Graviton
Loki
Juggernaut
Shadow king.

What are you thinking?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Sentry
Silver Surfer
Sodam Yat
Zauriel
Void TAO
Nemesis kid

Speed steal freezes all of them. Sentry I'm assuminghas no void here, and he was a bit of a *****.

Put it this way. The Flash's managed to BFR Prime into the Speed Force. Are any of these guys above Prime, a trans guy?

Plus, Zoom lol.

carver9
Originally posted by golem370
Does those thousand of punches do enough damage to drop any of these guys?

Why wouldn't it?

maxivitopowe
What's that dude with that slow down zone?
The Aquarian?

golem370
Because these guys or most of them are pretty tough.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by maxivitopowe
What's that dude with that slow down zone?
The Aquarian?

Wundarr? He was an option, but useless. Also, debatable it would work on Zoom, who for all intents and purposes is already travelling at normal speeds.

Hed have to be saved for last if he was in a team.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Team of 3...

Flash - Wally
Zoom - (the one that took on the Flashes)
Flash - Barry

which Zoom is that?

Both Thawne and Zolomon have done so.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
which Zoom is that?

Both Thawne and Zolomon have done so.

The time manipulate one.

yaadaveyaa
oh magneto ftw

Geeker
Flashes with breaks off own, Zoom owns Flashes.
If I have to give it a go.
Classic Warlock
Surfer
Thor
Superman
Quasar
Makkari

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
The time manipulate one. #

Lol which one's that? :-p

IOW, does he have black eye patches?

Geeker
If the soul gem acts on its own, Warlock would stop them.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by golem370
Because these guys or most of them are pretty tough.

If they are tough enough, they get BFRed into the Speed Force.

Geeker
Or they get removed into the Soul Gem like Thanos.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Geeker
Or they get removed into the Soul Gem like Thanos.

How fast is the Soul Gem?

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
#

Lol which one's that? :-p

IOW, does he have black eye patches?

Thawne.

Geeker
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How fast is the Soul Gem?

As it's an infinity gem probably fast enough. Quick enough to dispatch Thanos to the Gem World in a Flash pardon my punning.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Thawne.

Originally posted by Geeker
As it's an infinity gem probably fast enough. Quick enough to dispatch Thanos to the Gem World in a Flash pardon my punning.

In that case, none of the teams mentioned so far come close to beating Carver's team of 3.

Not even Deadman.....

Geeker
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
In that case, none of the teams mentioned so far come close to beating Carver's team of 3.

Not even Deadman..... I'm going to say I think the gem could do it and agree to disagree.

DarkSaint85
For those who're wondering...

Thawne can stop time:
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/zoomtimestop3.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/zoomtimestop4.jpg

But more than that:
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/existenceremoval1.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/existenceremoval.jpg

He can change history casually, pluck people from time, and erase them completely so they never were.

Deadman? Never died.
Superman? Never landed on Earth. Or was never brought up by the Kents.
Graviton? Never graduated and became a physics professor.
Sentry? Bob never took the serum.
Juggernaut? Never picked up the gem.
Any mutant (Magneto/Vulcan/etc)? Killed before they got their powers at puberty.
Adam Warlock? Was never created by the Enclave.

Geeker
He's got to know who when and where they were born surely or does he see timelines?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Geeker
He's got to know who when and where they were born surely or does he see timelines?

He can see it.

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/z2.jpg

He can also de-age people, too.

LordofBrooklyn
They make eye contact with TAO they are finished!

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
They make eye contact with TAO they are finished!

Even with time frozen?

TAO was never created!

golem370
Is it a standard move to bfr people to the speed force?


Wundarr the Aquarian
Quantum
Vulcan

heisetx
Just get a mystic like magik to send em to limbo where in that dimension has different laws

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by golem370
Is it a standard move to bfr people to the speed force?


Wundarr the Aquarian
Quantum
Vulcan

CIS is off.

PIS is off.

Also, Thawne defeats all three handily. Magik, too.

See scans I posted of Thawne.

deathslash
Does the team of heralds have to be different people than the members of flash team? If it doesn't, I choose Barry, Wally, both of the versions of Zoom, Jesse Quick, and Jonny Quick.

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
Team of 3...

Flash - Wally
Zoom - (the one that took on the Flashes)
Flash - Barry With CIS off, no one can beat them. With CIS off they would literally kill any team as soon as the bell rung.

Branlor Swift
Zolomon
Surfer
Does Mephisto outside his realm count, if not shift him out for Blackheart
K'ad-Mon Man Thing with the staff
Cyborg Superman
And of course, Deathstroke

pym-ftw
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Man-thing
Flash Bart
Graviton
Loki
Juggernaut
Shadow king. Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What are you thinking? Shadow king goes in Juggernauts mind and goes astral on them, Man-thing can unbfr shadow-naut if he needs to everyone else is fodder

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Shadow king goes in Juggernauts mind and goes astral on them, Man-thing can unbfr shadow-naut if he needs to everyone else is fodder

Juggy would have his helmet on, unles Shadow King can get through to it? By the time he takes it off etc etc, it'll be too late.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Zolomon
Surfer
Does Mephisto outside his realm count, if not shift him out for Blackheart
K'ad-Mon Man Thing with the staff
Cyborg Superman
And of course, Deathstroke

Best team I've seen so far.

byrdgang21
Sentry
Surfer
Iceman
Nate Grey
Vulcan
Scarlet Witch

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by byrdgang21
Sentry
Surfer
Iceman
Nate Grey
Vulcan
Scarlet Witch

Nope.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by byrdgang21
Sentry
Surfer
Iceman
Nate Grey
Vulcan
Scarlet Witch

To clarify:
The only one of any threat here is Surfer. The others are non-factors.

golem370
Wundarr- Null-Force energy field
Longshot- Probability Field Manipulation
Henriette Hunter- Probability Field Manipulation
Quark(Mojoverse)- Probability Field Manipulation
Silver Surfer- Power Cosmic
Vulcan

DarkSaint85
Henrietta's kinda useless here, as it depends on people singing her song, right?
So's Wundarr/Vulcan. Best bet is Longshot/Quark combining and doing some kinda freaky probability thing....but its a...longshot lol.

golem370
One I think Silver Surfer would be as good as Vulcan and why not have everybody on her team singing Henrietta song. Vulcan could possibly absorb and use the probability fields too?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by golem370
One I think Silver Surfer would be as good as Vulcan and why not have everybody on her team singing Henrietta song. Vulcan could possibly absorb and use the probability fields too?

Because:



Congrats, you've just soloed your own team lol

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Best team I've seen so far. If Death stroke is too much switch him out for Shaman Nate Grey.

Although the Flashes still get rolled.

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