Penance Stare vs Batman

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golem370
If Ghost Rider gave Batman the stare how would Bruce fare?

DarkSaint85
He'd suffer. Jason Todd guilt, on.

golem370
Do you believe he feels guilty for not stopping Joker for good and would that work against him too?

yaadaveyaa
Originally posted by golem370
Do you believe he feels guilty for not stopping Joker for good and would that work against him too?

batman is no saint... pennance stare would 100% work

LeonBuco666
It doesnt matter.
Guilt doesnt come into it anymore.

Batman has killed when avoidable.
He has influenced pain and suffering on others.
So he will suffer.

BADLY.

SamZED
Batman stares back and Rider's skull explodes.

LeonBuco666
And then it reforms instantly.

SamZED
But with a permanent look of horror in his skull.

LeonBuco666
In which he loves. And thanks batman before pulling him in half.

SamZED
Aren't you forgetting something? Like..I dunno.. The Goddamn Batkick!

Prof. T.C McAbe
GR will avoid Batmans stare.

BruceSkywalker
not really sure the penance stare would even work on Batman..

LeonBuco666
The penance stare woupd def work on Bruce

Badabing
Originally posted by SamZED
Batman stares back and Rider's skull explodes. thumb up

Bat-glare ftw.

Insane Titan
Bats gets f*cked up

maxivitopowe
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
not really sure the penance stare would even work on Batman..
Why wouldn't it?

LeonBuco666
Its will work. Jeez.

Bruce has killed when its been avoidable when he first started out as Batman.
He's has inflicted pain on people.

It will work indefinitely, Bats gets uber ****ed.

riv6672
Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Why wouldn't it?
Depends on the true strength of Batman's convictions.
Punisher withstood the stare, and he is NO saint. He's committed.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
GR will avoid Batmans stare.
Funny how no one thinks other characters can do that to GR, though in all these debates where he gets auto wins. wink

zopzop
Nothing happens to Bruce. Batman is a noble person.

Badabing
Originally posted by Insane Titan
Bats gets f*cked up This blasphemy will not be tolerated! sneer

Rao Kal El
Batman stares Ghost Rider into submission evil face

No seriously Imo he gets f up

Badabing
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Batman stares Ghost Rider into submission evil face

No seriously Imo he gets f up You must have forgotten we live in the same city! ahuh

Rao Kal El
Originally posted by Badabing
You must have forgotten we live in the same city! ahuh

Oh sh1t fear

I change my opinion Batman stares at GR and GR sh1ts his leather pants. thumb up

Badabing
laughing out loud

Mindset
Can the penance stare work if the person doesn't feel guilt?

Because Batman is an unrepentant child molester.

riv6672
Originally posted by zopzop
Nothing happens to Bruce. Batman is a noble person.

LeonBuco666
****ing hell.


It doesnt matter, Bats has killed when it has been avoidable and he has inflicted pain and suffering on his enemies.

So yes...the PS works simply for the former.

The latter too.

Bats gets phucked up.

Zack Fair
Originally posted by SamZED
Batman stares back and Rider's skull explodes.

riv6672
Originally posted by LeonBuco666
****ing hell.


It doesnt matter, Bats has killed when it has been avoidable and he has inflicted pain and suffering on his enemies.

So yes...the PS works simply for the former.

The latter too.

Bats gets phucked up.
Yes it matters and no he doesnt.
The stare causes people to
feel every pain that that individual has ever inflicted on anyone else innocent in their lifetime.
I'm pretty sure Batman can deal with what he's done in his life.
I've said it before, and i say it again, as a GR fan, the PS is not all powerful.
It has limitations. People it wont work on. If a person feels they've done their best, they wont have as severe a reaction as others.

LeonBuco666
Originally posted by riv6672
Yes it matters and no he doesnt.
The stare causes people to
feel every pain that that individual has ever inflicted on anyone else innocent in their lifetime.
I'm pretty sure Batman can deal with what he's done in his life.
I've said it before, and i say it again, as a GR fan, the PS is not all powerful.
It has limitations. People it wont work on. If a person feels they've done their best, they wont have as severe a reaction as others.


roll eyes (sarcastic)

It doesnt work like that anymore. If you said this 20 years ago, Id agree.

The PS will work IF
The target HAS killed when avoidable...Bats has.

Its over for bats.

Anf ****KK that Deadpool ****ing noise! Deadpool....the guy who takes on Marvel U...that also happened in his own comic...so im gonna dismiss that crazy wacky shit.

Penance stare >>> mutilates Batmans soul.

LeonBuco666
The Stare causes the victim to feel all the pain they have caused others, emotionally and physically, leaving them in a catatonic state afterwards.

tkitna
If it worked on Galactus, it'll work on Batman.









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LeonBuco666
Thats from the F4 cartoon from like the 70's.

We dont count the cartoons on here bro.

Even though it'd just turn GR into some sort of abstract level being, which I dont want.

riv6672
Originally posted by LeonBuco666
roll eyes (sarcastic)

It doesnt work like that anymore. If you said this 20 years ago, Id agree.

The PS will work IF
The target HAS killed when avoidable...Bats has.

Its over for bats.

Anf ****KK that Deadpool ****ing noise! Deadpool....the guy who takes on Marvel U...that also happened in his own comic...so im gonna dismiss that crazy wacky shit.

Penance stare >>> mutilates Batmans soul.
laughing out loud Leon, relax. You're going to pound that poor asterisk key right through the keyboard.

Sorry you dont like the Deadpool feat, but its a fact.
And if you're going to dismiss it based on not liking it, then i simply dismiss the effects the PS has on Batman. The PS will work, but much like the Punisher, Batman will suffer no damage from the effects.

DarkSaint85
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SamZED
Originally posted by LeonBuco666
roll eyes (sarcastic)

It doesnt work like that anymore. If you said this 20 years ago, Id agree.

The PS will work IF
The target HAS killed when avoidable...Bats has.

Its over for bats.

Anf ****KK that Deadpool ****ing noise! Deadpool....the guy who takes on Marvel U...that also happened in his own comic...so im gonna dismiss that crazy wacky shit.

Penance stare >>> mutilates Batmans soul. That's not a good argument. Deadpool never took on the MU, that's non-canon.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by LeonBuco666

Batman has killed when avoidable.




When did this start happening?

Or is this Miller's "Crazy Steve" version of Batman?


And I vote it would do much. It didn't put Morbius down when he got it. It won't put Bats down.

CadenceV2
Contrary to popular belief of casual readers, the Penance Stare works by making you feel the "Suffering, and Pain" you caused others. Has little to nothing to do with guilt.

In fact the Penance Stare has worked on multiple people and beings who feel no guilt. Including Blackheart himself. Only character who is plot protected from it is Venom and it never been explained why he is. The 90s showed Venom clearly feeling pain from the PS, yet recent Venom caused it to backfire on Blaze for no real reason.

Also the Penance Stare worked on Deadpool. Wade was clearly down on the ground and Blaze stood around for a time till Wade snapped out of it. Deadpool is not immune to it at all.

SamZED
Iirc it did backfire, temporarily knocked them both down and GR was reverted to his human form.

Igniz
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
http://s5d1.turboimagehost.com/t/19704510_Thunderbolts_2012-_029-016.jpg

laughing out loud

Punisher's secret into resisting the Penance Stare is "I regret nothing!"

Back on topic.The penance stare wont work on Batman on the basis that it works by making the mind relive all misdeeds at once.Blackheart got empowered by it since he is powered by misdeeds.The penance stare backfired on Venom.Though Venom still got hurt in a way.But it knocked out Ghost Rider in the process.

SamZED
It does backfire on occasions.

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Igniz
Originally posted by SamZED
It does backfire on occasions.

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laughing out loud

Deadpool's insanity was too much for Ghost Rider's penance stare.That's why we sometimes love insane characters roll eyes (sarcastic)

CadenceV2
Originally posted by Igniz
laughing out loud

Punisher's secret into resisting the Penance Stare is "I regret nothing!"

Back on topic.The penance stare wont work on Batman on the basis that it works by making the mind relive all misdeeds at once.Blackheart got empowered by it since he is powered by misdeeds.The penance stare backfired on Venom.Though Venom still got hurt in a way.But it knocked out Ghost Rider in the process.

Ugh, the Female Ghost Rider was the worst. In the 90s Dan Ketch with the spirit Nobel Kale fully destroyed Blackheart with a Penance Stare, yet in the Circle of 4 arc Alejandra with no access to Zarathos full power manages to empower Blackheart with the same attack. Contradicting.

8swords
GR dies a horrible death,

Igniz
Originally posted by CadenceV2
Ugh, the Female Ghost Rider was the worst. In the 90s Dan Ketch with the spirit Nobel Kale fully destroyed Blackheart with a Penance Stare, yet in the Circle of 4 arc Alejandra with no access to Zarathos full power manages to empower Blackheart with the same attack. Contradicting.

You talking about the time Blackheart was the lord of hell?There were circumstances and plot devices there.First off, Noble Kale became the Ghost Rider due to an agreement between Mephisto and the angel Uriel(Ghost Rider vol 2 #92).Which made Noble Kale the angel of death.And Blackheart broke the treaties of Mephisto and Uriel when he made 4 more Spirits of Vengeance.Allowing Kale to access his Angelic powers.Which allowed Kale to temporarily destroy Blackheart.Blackheart next appeared in Fantastic Four Annual 1999.And here's the Kale Vs Blackheart battle.

Originally posted by Igniz
Ghost Rider Vol 3 #93

Blackheart still lived and goes on to battle Ghost Rider.

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Its not just Penance Stare.Its Penance Stare with angelic powers.

golem370
What does it say about him if it doesn't work would that mean he is a social path sorry if I spell it wrong.

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