Wolverine Vs DC healing factors

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riv6672
Who at DC of similar tier (not sure where Logan falls here at KMC), has a comparable healing factor? Or better, possibly.

Time Immemorial
Tons of characters have HF from DC.

Superman
Flash
Aquaman
Bane
Doomsday
Wonderwoman

DarkSaint85
Flash.

maxivitopowe
Similar tier

Supermutant
Hawkman

riv6672
A lot of those choices are above what i assume is Logan's tier, which is why i said similar. A lot of high enders at Marvel have HF too.
Really looking for a more even playing field....

Silent Master
I don't think any of the people listed so far have a comparable healing factor.

Squirtle
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Tons of characters have HF from DC.

Superman
Flash
Aquaman
Bane
Doomsday
Wonderwoman

accelerated healing =/= healing factor

carver9
Non of the people mentioned have a healing factor on the level of Wolverines. Wolverine has been crisped all the way to the bone and healed within some panel. He was thrown in a pit filled with heated metal and the only thing that was left was adamantium bone and he walked out of it, bone and all, and healed in a couple of panels.

Had his heart snatched out and was still fighting (and it healed back). I can go on and on but the ONLY comparable person in DCU is Lobo, the rest of the people that was named in this thread would die from half of the stuff Logan been through...not even his best healing fts.

Supermutant
Originally posted by carver9
Non of the people mentioned have a healing factor on the level of Wolverines. Wolverine has been crisped all the way to the bone and healed within some panel. He was thrown in a pit filled with heated metal and the only thing that was left was adamantium bone and he walked out of it, bone and all, and healed in a couple of panels.

Had his heart snatched out and was still fighting (and it healed back). I can go on and on but the ONLY comparable person in DCU is Lobo, the rest of the people that was named in this thread would die from half of the stuff Logan been through...not even his best healing fts.

Has wolverine every regenerated a complete limb? Because Hawkman has with the Nth metal regenerated an arm. Hawkman has same nice healing feats as well and can take a lot of punishment.

http://s5d2.turboimagehost.com/t1/19449831_hawkmanarmcut.jpg http://s5d2.turboimagehost.com/t1/19449832_hawkmanarmgrowback.jpg

carver9
Originally posted by Supermutant
Has wolverine every regenerated a complete limb? Because Hawkman has with the Nth metal regenerated an arm. Hawkman has same nice healing feats as well and can take a lot of punishment.

http://s5d2.turboimagehost.com/t1/19449831_hawkmanarmcut.jpg http://s5d2.turboimagehost.com/t1/19449832_hawkmanarmgrowback.jpg

His body was incinerated down to nothing but bones. Him regenerating an arm is nothing compared to him regenerating heart, lungs, brain, liver, intestines, arm tissue all over again, basically regenerating 'his entire body back'. The comparison is so lopsided it's ridiculous. Do you think Hawkman can heal damage all the way to the bone? If so, provide scans (he would die).

Stoic
Wolverine at his best, and Hawkman are about the same. Wolverine has never had to regenerate a limb because of the adamantium, so I'm not sure about this.

KingD19
Wolverine has regenerated from having his head cut off.

He's also regenerated from being ground zero for an explosion from Nitro while amped enough to destroy a city. He was a skeleton and he regenerated. He's also regenerated after being dropped in a vat of molten steel.

Stoic
Didn't he have help when he was reduced to a skeleton?

Supermutant
Originally posted by carver9
His body was incinerated down to nothing but bones. Him regenerating an arm is nothing compared to him regenerating heart, lungs, brain, liver, intestines, arm tissue all over again, basically regenerating 'his entire body back'. The comparison is so lopsided it's ridiculous. Do you think Hawkman can heal damage all the way to the bone? If so, provide scans (he would die).

What's ridiculous is that you don't read DC comics, but yet you like to comment as if you have basic knowledge of DC characters. Hawkman has nth metal infuse within him, so he can heal from almost anything like being set on fire.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3203595-the+savage+hawkman+01_03+copy.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3203596-the+savage+hawkman+01_04-5+copy.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3203597-the+savage+hawkman+01_09+copy.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3203598-the+savage+hawkman+01_10+copy.jpg

By the way I'm not saying that Hawkman's healing is better than Logan's, but its not some lopsided omg gap like some are making it.

Supermutant
Originally posted by KingD19
Wolverine has regenerated from having his head cut off.


confused really? I'd like to see that scan b/c that's some deadpool bugs bunny cartoon healing.

riv6672
Hawkman is just about perfect.
If i'd remembered him i'd have skipped the thread, thanks!

KingD19
Originally posted by Supermutant
confused really? I'd like to see that scan b/c that's some deadpool bugs bunny cartoon healing.

It happened off panel and before he had his Adamantium. He explained how many different ways people tried to kill him in a POW camp. Firing squad, decapitcation, etc, etc... Nothing worked.

carver9
Originally posted by Supermutant
What's ridiculous is that you don't read DC comics, but yet you like to comment as if you have basic knowledge of DC characters. Hawkman has nth metal infuse within him, so he can heal from almost anything like being set on fire.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3203595-the+savage+hawkman+01_03+copy.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3203596-the+savage+hawkman+01_04-5+copy.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3203597-the+savage+hawkman+01_09+copy.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3203598-the+savage+hawkman+01_10+copy.jpg

By the way I'm not saying that Hawkman's healing is better than Logan's, but its not some lopsided omg gap like some are making it.

Lol at me not reading DC. Also, lol at that showing being anywhere close to what I brought up about Wolverine. Good try though.

Placidity
Lobo

Supermutant
Originally posted by KingD19
It happened off panel and before he had his Adamantium. He explained how many different ways people tried to kill him in a POW camp. Firing squad, decapitcation, etc, etc... Nothing worked.

yeah not buying that. Sabretooth got decapitated once so I don't see how bone claw wolverine would heal from that.

KingD19
Doesn't matter if you don't buy it. It's in his respect thread. And if you mean when he got decapitated with the Muramasa Blade. A katana made from Wolverine's soul so it actually negated Healing Factors...well that really doesn't count now does it?

Galan007
Originally posted by Supermutant
yeah not buying that. Sabretooth got decapitated once so I don't see how bone claw wolverine would heal from that. It was stated on panel:
http://i.imgur.com/3ZbcK49.jpg
"Week after week, we'd have firing squads, stabbings, beatings and beheadings until I was absolutely sure he wasn't breathing anymore."

Supermutant
Originally posted by carver9
Lol at me not reading DC. Also, lol at that showing being anywhere close to what I brought up about Wolverine. Good try though.

Meet me in the Battlezone Carver. You bring Logan and adamantium, and I'll bringt Katar and nth metal. It won't end well you.

Supermutant
Originally posted by KingD19
Doesn't matter if you don't buy it. It's in his respect thread. And if you mean when he got decapitated with the Muramasa Blade. A katana made from Wolverine's soul so it actually negated Healing Factors...well that really doesn't count now does it?

Have Logan or Sabretooth ever regenerated a limb on panel? Just a statement about failed decapitations could mean anything. If one missed a head completely that's a failed decapitation. lol

Supermutant
Originally posted by Galan007
It was stated on panel:
http://i.imgur.com/3ZbcK49.jpg
"Week after week, we'd have firing squads, stabbings, beatings and beheadings until I was absolutely sure he wasn't breathing anymore."

It was also stated on panel by Charles Xavier that decapitation was the best way to kill Wolverine. So yeah I'll take the word of the genius level psychic over the drunken soldier. stick out tongue

http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/19451172_xavierprotocolswolverine.jpg

riv6672
As a former drunken soldier, i have to say Charles is more credible...

DarkSaint85
True, DC does not have people (especially in the street tier) that have anything even remotely comparable to Wolverine.

You'd have to cheat and use people like Clayface or something to get there.

Otherwise, Lobo. Who of course has way better healing feats than Wolverine. But then, he's herald level.

riv6672
Good points.
I believe Wolverine has the market cornered for this ability at his tier, other than Hawkman, which i should have thought of.

This is like finding someone as agile as Spider-man at DC in a similar tier. Of course the difficulty there is Spidey straddles tiers even more than Wolverine.

Delta1938
Originally posted by Supermutant
Meet me in the Battlezone Carver. You bring Logan and adamantium, and I'll bringt Katar and nth metal. It won't end well you.

I hope this happens. A healing factor showdown should be entertaining.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Supermutant
Meet me in the Battlezone Carver. You bring Logan and adamantium, and I'll bringt Katar and nth metal. It won't end well you.

Lol.

KM, you have a challenger.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by riv6672
Good points.
I believe Wolverine has the market cornered for this ability at his tier, other than Hawkman, which i should have thought of.

This is like finding someone as agile as Spider-man at DC in a similar tier. Of course the difficulty there is Spidey straddles tiers even more than Wolverine.

Marvel is too overpowered, with unrelatable characters. I prefer DC, at least they have heroes who have limits.

Delta1938
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Marvel is too overpowered, with unrelatable characters. I prefer DC, at least they have heroes who have limits.

confused I.....I think I get it.....but not sure if I do or not.....

deathlife
Lobo

maxivitopowe
Lol

riv6672
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Marvel is too overpowered, with unrelatable characters. I prefer DC, at least they have heroes who have limits.
Ar! Ar! Ar!

Thanks for the help though, guys...smile

cdtm
A reptile like character from Damages old series had s pretty good hf. Even regrew limbs and took Damages best explosion point blank, being KOed for mere minutes.

SamZED
Creeper comes to mind.

deathslash
Originally posted by Supermutant
It was also stated on panel by Charles Xavier that decapitation was the best way to kill Wolverine. So yeah I'll take the word of the genius level psychic over the drunken soldier. stick out tongue

http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/19451172_xavierprotocolswolverine.jpg Didn't charles also once say that Logan's claws were implanted into his body? Charles has been wrong before and that soldier saw Logan get decapitated with his own eyes.

cdtm
Logan needs to breath, right?

He ever been in the vacuum of space?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by SamZED
Creeper comes to mind.

Crap, forgot all about him. Damn Russki.

Here he is stitching himself back together after being dismembered:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120267/3195022-9055263530-31949.jpg

INCLUDING being decapitated, and after being chewed up and spat out by dogs.

carver9
Vandal and Lobo is the only ones. Hawkman healing an arm isn't close to Wolverine healing 'everything'. If that's the only ft he have then he is clearly not in Logan's ballpark.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Vandal and Lobo is the only ones. Hawkman healing an arm isn't close to Wolverine healing 'everything'. If that's the only ft he have then he is clearly not in Logan's ballpark.

Have you got me on ignore? I hate you.

Delta1938
Originally posted by carver9
Vandal and Lobo is the only ones. Hawkman healing an arm isn't close to Wolverine healing 'everything'. If that's the only ft he have then he is clearly not in Logan's ballpark.

Then take-up Supermutant's challenge.

Originally posted by Supermutant
Meet me in the Battlezone Carver. You bring Logan and adamantium, and I'll bringt Katar and nth metal. It won't end well you.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Have you got me on ignore? I hate you.

Nope. Why you say that?

carver9
Originally posted by Delta1938
Then take-up Supermutant's challenge.

Don't have time. I'm already in a battlezone with the most fearless.

Delta1938
Originally posted by carver9
Nope. Why you say that?

Because you're a jerkface and that's something jerkfaces do, jerkface.

Originally posted by carver9
Don't have time. I'm already in a battlezone with the most fearless.

So the jerkface runs from a challenge. huhu

carver9
Originally posted by Delta1938
Because you're a jerkface and that's something jerkfaces do, jerkface.

Lol...Lick something Delta. COD tonight at 1030 est.

Delta1938
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Lick something Delta. COD tonight at 1030 est.


Do you realize you're setting yourself up for me to say I did your mom, right?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Nope. Why you say that?

So you don't think the Creeper stitching his body pieces back (including having been decapitated) and after having been chewed on by a dog and then surrounded by lime (which is corrosive)....is not close to Wolverine's??

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So you don't think the Creeper stitching his body pieces back (including having been decapitated) and after having been chewed on by a dog and then surrounded by lime (which is corrosive)....is not close to Wolverine's??

Is that the only showing he has or is that an outliner?

DarkSaint85
He's also survived a spaceship falling on him

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120267/3195020-7509212152-13524.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120267/3195021-5113340260-13524.jpg

DarkSaint85
His hayflack limit....FUNCTIONALLY INFINITE (my emphasis).

Not theoretically, or potentially. Functionally i.e. it has been tested, and so far, it had been limitless.

What is the Hayflack limit?

The number of times a normal human cell population will divide until cell division stops.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/4/40000/1474361-the_creeper__03_14.jpg

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He's also survived a spaceship falling on him

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120267/3195020-7509212152-13524.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120267/3195021-5113340260-13524.jpg

More of a durability ft than anything. I don't thin you have anything showing he is close to Logan's level minus 1 showing.

DarkSaint85
Lol. Don't forget, he is a MUCH less popular character than Wolvie. So you will always win a scan war using quantity of scans.

I am using quality of scans.

There are no outlying low feats, unless you have any?

Which means these are his averages. You have to prove that these are outliers....I have provided three different storylines, under three different writers, from three different times, showcasing his HF. I am NOT going to post every single appearance of his, just because you're too lazy to look him up lol.

cdtm
Durability feat?

Creeper's durability isn't that high... I don't think it's even as high as Spidey's.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol. Don't forget, he is a MUCH less popular character than Wolvie. So you will always win a scan war using quantity of scans.

I am using quality of scans.

There are no outlying low feats, unless you have any?

Which means these are his averages. You have to prove that these are outliers....I have provided three different storylines, under three different writers, from three different times, showcasing his HF. I am NOT going to post every single appearance of his, just because you're too lazy to look him up lol.

You only provides one though. The scan with the plane crash, we don't see any Damage. Your latest scan is word of mouth.

DarkSaint85
Yah he's been hit by bullets which penetrated his skin and made him bleed etc. I didn't post that because he uses a statement which may or may not be hyperbole (I heal faster than the Flash on crack or something like that)....so I didn't use it because it might just be hyperbole.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
You only provides one though. The scan with the plane crash, we don't see any Damage. Your latest scan is word of mouth.

Right, right, Mr 'this was inspired by Ultron's adamantium gun' = Hulk is > adamntium'.....

Delta1938
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yah he's been hit by bullets which penetrated his skin and made him bleed etc. I didn't post that because he uses a statement which may or may not be hyperbole (I heal faster than the Flash on crack or something like that)....so I didn't use it because it might just be hyperbole.

Was it a statement alone or a statement with a healing feat? Can still be hyperbole but would be valid to show if it's with a healing feat. If he said that while healing, I'd like to see it.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Right, right, Mr 'this was inspired by Ultron's adamantium gun' = Hulk is > adamntium'.....

Lol...that's not Hulk 'only' adamantium ft though.

Delta1938
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...that's not Hulk 'only' adamantium ft though.

Superman tanked TWO simultaneous LASERs capable of cutting through adamantium. Superman>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hulk. huhu

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Delta1938
Was it a statement alone or a statement with a healing feat? Can still be hyperbole but would be valid to show if it's with a healing feat. If he said that while healing, I'd like to see it.

Here it is:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120267/3195015-5060434645-14744.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120267/3195016-4049824403-31949.jpg

So, OP asked:

Originally posted by riv6672
Who at DC of similar tier (not sure where Logan falls here at KMC), has a comparable healing factor? Or better, possibly.

I think Creeper definitely is comparable. With regards to decapitation, at least it has been shown, unlike Wolverine where it hasn't (apart from statements; which are then contradicted by Professor X). So on balance, I say Creeper has a better HF based on feats.

I mean, with ALL of the showings of Wolverine, a scan of him surviving (let alone laughing at it) decapitation should be easy, right?

Delta1938
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Here it is:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120267/3195015-5060434645-14744.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120267/3195016-4049824403-31949.jpg

So, OP asked:



I think Creeper definitely is comparable. With regards to decapitation, at least it has been shown, unlike Wolverine where it hasn't (apart from statements; which are then contradicted by Professor X). So on balance, I say Creeper has a better HF based on feats.

I mean, with ALL of the showings of Wolverine, a scan of him surviving (let alone laughing at it) decapitation should be easy, right?

Yeah, the statement's probably hyperbole, but he healed those bullet wounds very quickly, pretty good. Thanks for showing.

I'd agree he's comparable. Catver either doesn't understand the concept, or doesn't want to concede so he's saying, "Nuh UH!! Look at Wolvie's bestestest!!" Or both. Wouldn't surprise me if Kitty-Cat both didn't understand and doesn't want to concede.

carver9
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127168/013.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127170/014.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127172/017.jpg.html

Comparable to this?

carver9
Originally posted by Delta1938
Superman tanked TWO simultaneous LASERs capable of cutting through adamantium. Superman>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hulk. huhu

If only that was canon to Superman. I wish that Superman vs Venom fight was canon or that scene from Superman where he states Hulk is stronger than him and is also stronger than anyone he's faced.

That would be amazing.

DarkSaint85
Well considering he healed so quickly from having the spaceship dropped on him, yes.

He's not that durable. As I've shown.

DarkSaint85
Like I said...with regard to quantity of scans you will always beat me. Wolverine has been around since the what, 70s? And has about 10 appearances every week lol. So of course you will have more.

So you will have to show quality of scans. Show a feat of the ultimate attack, that of decapitation.

Delta1938
Originally posted by carver9
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127168/013.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127170/014.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11127172/017.jpg.html

Comparable to this?

I'd say the scans of Creeper healing from dismemberment and lime and stuff is comparable, especially for a C-Lister in popularity/visiblity. Do you not know what "comparable" means?

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well considering he healed so quickly from having the spaceship dropped on him, yes.

He's not that durable. As I've shown.

How much damage did he receive from that explosion? Do you have any scans? I remember someone a while back using that as a durability ft but I'm pretty sure you can counter that by showing so bodily damage. Scan please.

carver9
Originally posted by Delta1938
I'd say the scans of Creeper healing from dismemberment and lime and stuff is comparable, especially for a C-Lister in popularity/visiblity. Do you not know what "comparable" means?

So if I post another ft of Logan, what other seen of Creeper are you going to compare it too? Wait, let me guess, the same one? If I show Logan healing from nothing but bone, what scene of Creepers are you going to use? Wait, let me guess...

He has one Hugh showing, ONE, and that puts him on Logan's level. Get out of here.

KingD19
Originally posted by Supermutant
It was also stated on panel by Charles Xavier that decapitation was the best way to kill Wolverine. So yeah I'll take the word of the genius level psychic over the drunken soldier. stick out tongue

http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/19451172_xavierprotocolswolverine.jpg

Xavier never tested that theory. But the soldier cut his head off multiple times and it didn't work. I'm gonna take the guys word who actually tried multiple times to murder him and it failed.

Also Sabretooth would have reattached his arm, but Logan used the Muramasa Blade on it.

Logan has also had his neck slashed wide open by Sabretooth and dumped in a river. He himself said he should have died from the wound and drowned if that didn't work. But he was fine.

Logan's deal with Azrael was a helluva drug.

Delta1938
Originally posted by carver9
If only that was canon to Superman. I wish that Superman vs Venom fight was canon or that scene from Superman where he states Hulk is stronger than him and is also stronger than anyone he's faced.

That would be amazing.

I think it is canon to Superman, actually.

And where did Superman supposedly say Hulk was stronger than him? Where Superman says Hulk ALMOST stood-up to everything he had, which was all of a heat vision burst, a double punch to the chest(looked like) and a whole two punches to the face?

But, hey, in canon, Spider-Man handled nerve(or whatever it was) gas better than Hulk. big grin

DarkSaint85
I've already provided the best healing feat seen here.

You haven't beaten my scan, which holds a LOT more weight as Creeper has so few showings.

I haven't seen ANY low showings yet, btw. So until then, the ones I've shown are his average.

Delta1938
Originally posted by catver9
So if I post another ft of Logan, what other seen of Creeper are you going to compare it too? Wait, let me guess, the same one? If I show Logan healing from nothing but bone, what scene of Creepers are you going to use? Wait, let me guess...

He has one Hugh showing, ONE, and that puts him on Logan's level. Get out of here.

Clearly the point is going over your head. Into the stratosphere.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
So if I post another ft of Logan, what other seen of Creeper are you going to compare it too? Wait, let me guess, the same one? If I show Logan healing from nothing but bone, what scene of Creepers are you going to use? Wait, let me guess...

He has one Hugh showing, ONE, and that puts him on Logan's level. Get out of here.

What makes you think its a high showing?? Have you got low showings to compare it to? If not, then you're lowballing without even having any proof lol.

DarkSaint85
Also, as per OP, its comparable. Maybe even better as I haven't seen anything yet of Wolverine that beats it.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I've already provided the best healing feat seen here.

You haven't beaten my scan, which holds a LOT more weight as Creeper has so few showings.

I haven't seen ANY low showings yet, btw. So until then, the ones I've shown are his average.

So you only have one showing? Back on topic.

Here we have Logan healing from bones. First his eyes came as shown here.

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/1981406-wolverine48_011_zps5815d850.jpg.html

Then in no time he was nearly complete.

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/1981407-wolverine48_013_014_zps6e9a5007.jpg.html

i will provide the scan next where he was dropped in a pit of heated metal and nothing but his bones walked out of it and he healed in a couple of panels.

No need to respond to Delta since he isn't talking about anything but dreams.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Also, as per OP, its comparable. Maybe even better as I haven't seen anything yet of Wolverine that beats it.

Creeper has plenty of on panel showings. Sad that you can only find one thing that puts him at the lowest of Logan level.

Delta1938
Originally posted by carver9
So you only have one showing? Back on topic.

Here we have Logan healing from bones. First his eyes came as shown here.

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/1981406-wolverine48_011_zps5815d850.jpg.html

Then in no time her was nearly complete.

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/1981407-wolverine48_013_014_zps6e9a5007.jpg.html

i will provide the scan next where he was dropped in a pit of heated metal and nothing but his bones walked out of it and he healed in a couple of panels.

No need to respond to Delta since he isn't talking about anything but dreams.

Clearly you're not comprehending the point. DS says Wolverine's is better, but Creeper's is COMPARABLE. You keep complaining about what he shows being Creeper's "high end" but don't have anything to prove otherwise. The character probably has fewer than 200 appearances. DC Wikia says 185(but that doesn't mean there aren't more, but that's the best figure I've got), and a lot of the ones I looked through are Pre-CRISIS(don't know if they're canon for Post-CRISIS Creeper or not), and I know a lot of the times I've seen him, he's just in a cameo and doesn't really do much of anything. Hell, I know some of the appearances they put are just him as Jack Ryder.

How do we know you're not showing Wolverine's highs? I'm sure some lows could be posted that you wouldn't like to be seen.

And if you can't understand the point here, of course you'll be in denial of Superman's quick beatdown of Hulk. huhu

carver9
Let Dark fight his own battles. Come at me dark.

DarkSaint85
Back on topic.

What makes you think his HF is not comparable to Wolverine's as per the OP?

Delta1938
Originally posted by catver9
Let Dark fight his own battles. Come at me dark.

aww I will. I understand Kitty-Cat can barely handle one poster against him, let alone two.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Creeper has plenty of on panel showings. Sad that you can only find one thing that puts him at the lowest of Logan level.
Lowest?

Have you got one showing (just one) of him survivig his head taken off)?

To be comparable, of course.

-K-M-
Lobo easily
------------
Also here's ultimate wolverine surviving just being a head

Originally posted by -K-M-
1. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/UltimateWolverinevsHulk5of6-13.jpg
2. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/UltimateWolverinevsHulk5of6-14.jpg
3. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/UltimateWolverinevsHulk5of6-15.jpg

DarkSaint85
Pfft get outta here Ultimate boy.

-K-M-
Ultimate boy sounds like a superhero....so thank you

Whoooooooosh *flys off*

KingD19
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lowest?

Have you got one showing (just one) of him survivig his head taken off)?

To be comparable, of course.

It's incredibly hard to decapitate him as he's had Adamantium most of his career. But the scan posted earlier shows he's survived having his head cut off multiple times.

DarkSaint85
IOW, comparable.

Of course, he also healed his other limbs back, plus bits of chewed up body AND wwhilst in lime.

And was laughing whilst it happened.

But as per OP, definitely comparable IMO.

KingD19
Logan was beaten, torn to shreds by a firing squad and decapitated. There were no dogs and no lime, but yes it's comparable. Especially since Lime wouldn't really do anything to him anyway.

DarkSaint85
thumb up we agree.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Back on topic.

What makes you think his HF is not comparable to Wolverine's as per the OP?

I already answered this.

krisblaze
Originally posted by Stoic
Didn't he have help when he was reduced to a skeleton?
It's when he was "dying" and being resurrected, after fighting azazel or whatever he was called.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
I already answered this.

No you haven't.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No you haven't.

I really did. As per the thread, the closest so far is Vandal and Lobo.

DarkSaint85
What makes you think he's not comparable? What low showings have you seen?

carver9
Originally posted by carver9
So if I post another ft of Logan, what other seen of Creeper are you going to compare it too? Wait, let me guess, the same one? If I show Logan healing from nothing but bone, what scene of Creepers are you going to use? Wait, let me guess...

He has one Hugh showing, ONE, and that suppose to puts him on Logan's level? Get out of here.

DarkSaint85
Like I already said, quality over quantity. I already conceded that in ascan war you will win....beccause Wolverine has tons more appearances.

No on disputes this.

I REPEAT.

WHAT LOW FEATS DO YOU HAVE TO SAY HE'S NOT COMPARABLE? simple question.

If I have a character with 11 showings with one good showing and ten bad showings, then yeah we have an outlier.

If we have a character with 20000 showings, of course that person will have waayy more good showings.

So the onus now is on you, since you're so insistent. Show these bad showings that lead you to believe he's not on his level.

Khazra Reborn
Wow, so Hawkman can regrow limbs now? That's awesome, I need to read JLU 3, it's still sitting in my stack. Based on that feat, I'd say his HF is definitely on par with Logan's now.

DarkSaint85
From Wiki:
Beware the Creeper; six issues; pre-Crisis
Super-team Family#2; one issue; pre-Crisis
Brave and the Bold #70; one issue; pre-Crisis
JLA #7; one issue; pre-Crisis
Detective Comics #418; one issue; pre-Crisis
Detective Comics #443; one issue; pre-Crisis
Detective Comics #445, #447-448; three issues; pre-Crisis

etc.

Post Crisis:
The Creeper; 12 issues 1997
The Creeper vol 2; six issues 2006

Then some guest starring roles.

In total, probably about 20-25 appearances.

Wolverine outpaces him in a week of Marvel comics lol.

-K-M-
Add Jack Horner

riv6672
Creeper.
Not a charactr i'd have thought of. Nice!

DarkSaint85
Yah. He seems the most like-for-like in terms of tier and HF.

Delta1938
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yah. He seems the most like-for-like in terms of tier and HF.

I would say he has elements of Spider-Man, Wolverine and Plastic Man.

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