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The Summers Brothers take on Fixit and Abomination.

Each team gets 5 minutes of planning before the fight starts.

Fight in an abandoned New York City.

Regular powered Cyclops/Havok and Fixit/Abom.

No a-bomb or p5.

You don't know a thing about Hulk do you?

One of Fixit latest showings had him taking on the Avengers and he not only mud stomped them with ease, he was tanking ALL of their attacks. This team is far more powerful than the brothers. Then he one shot koed Wonderman...someone that has been getting love from writers.

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948640_07.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948641_08.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948642_09.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948643_10.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948644_11.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948645_12.jpg

That team is far more powerful than the Summers???

Jesus Christ, carver.

Tigra?? Mockingbird? Hawkeye???

Sweet Christmas....

Anyways....

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/108735/2889946-HULK150019_col.jpg

Anyway, here's another. Grey and Abom would be powering Havok up:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/108735/2889942-428844-vshulk2nz8_super.jpg

But would they overload Havok, they are so powahfull!! Grey could tank Tigra scratching him!!

Well, he was able to absorb a black hole's worth, whilst it was simultanesously weakening him:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/108735/2890027-havok_zorn.jpg

Oh, and absorbed a Star's worth. Enough to make even Vulcan, one of THE top energy manipulators in Marvel, burn:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/108735/2890073-1308997-havok_vulcan3_super.jpg

Lol. But by all means, somehow, that energy blast from Silver Iron Man and Mockinbird's sticks are more powerful than him.

And that's not even taking into account Cyclops.

The rest...

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948646_13.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948647_14-15.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948648_16.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948649_17.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948650_18.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/11948651_19.jpg

Lol. You took too long carver. Your scans are already old hat.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol. You took too long carver. Your scans are already old hat.

So your argument is that Hulk would power him up (and not just stand there and pick up a rock and throw it at him while letting him attack). Also, you don't think Ironman and Wonderman could stomp the brothers.

Originally posted by carver9
So your argument is that Hulk would power him up (and not just stand there and pick up a rock and throw it at him).

Hulk's not here. BUT, Alex was able to make Hulk stop in his tracks, unable to move. This is the scan preceding the one I showed:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/108735/2889938-1308991-havok_hulk2_super.jpg

Notice how he's then forced to his knees, and struggling to move (with the motion lines indicating his struggles).

Yea, no picking up rocks etc lol.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hulk's not here. BUT, Alex was able to make Hulk stop in his tracks, unable to move. This is the scan preceding the one I showed:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/108735/2889938-1308991-havok_hulk2_super.jpg

No one is denying that Havok isn't powerful. Isn't that the same fight where he went nuclear and Hulk tanked it (it almost killed him). By the way, Havok isn't close to that kind of power these days. His classic days were great though.

Carter is being dumb again Havok already beat Hulk and put a hurting on Prof Hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
No one is denying that Havok isn't powerful. Isn't that the same fight where he went nuclear and Hulk tanked it (it almost killed him). By the way, Havok isn't close to that kind of power these days. His classic days were great though.

Was there a storyline where he was depowered, then?

From the rules:



I know this is when you start losing ground and grasping at straws.....you start referring to scans as 'older than your grandmother' or somesuch, then discredit them because they are too old.

IOW, I am winning.

And that is also why I showcased the fight with Vulcan and the incident with Xorn. Both more recent, showing how he can absorb a LOT of energy - enough to make even VULCAN burn.

So Grey/Abom would be nothing but fuel to Alex.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Was there a storyline where he was depowered, then?

From the rules:



I know this is when you start losing ground and grasping at straws.....you start referring to scans as 'older than your grandmother' or somesuch, then discredit them because they are too old.

IOW, I am winning.

And that is also why I showcased the fight with Vulcan and the incident with Xorn. Both more recent, showing how he can absorb a LOT of energy - enough to make even VULCAN burn.

So Grey/Abom would be nothing but fuel to Alex.

I wasn't going to discredit your showings though and you are correct, they probably would fuel him tbh. Havok is Hulks Parasite, kind of like Superman and Parasite himself. Like an energy source. Havok didn't drop Hulk there though. He went nuclear trying to take out the Hulk and Hulk tanked it while at the same time, ko'ing Alex.

Scott is nothing in this fight though. Grey Hulk has walked through his optic blast like nothing. Good scans though.

Originally posted by Estacado
Carter is being dumb again Havok already beat Hulk and put a hurting on Prof Hulk.

Dumb Hulk who was picking up a boulder instead of fighting. Fixit is a tactical fighter, can't be used here.

He koed himself fighting Professor Hulk. Hulk saved his life in the end of it.

DS, in case you're in danger of buying into Carter's nonsense Havok's powers are no longer a threat to his health.

They haven't been in a long time, since his abilities stabilized post Earth X.

Originally posted by krisblaze
DS, in case you're in danger of buying into Carter's nonsense Havok's powers are no longer a threat to his health.

They haven't been in a long time, since his abilities stabilized post Earth X.

Silver Surfer vs Superman thread. Meet me there.

Originally posted by carver9
Dumb Hulk who was picking up a boulder instead of fighting. Fixit is a tactical fighter, can't be used here.

He koed himself fighting Professor Hulk. Hulk saved his life in the end of it.

Originally posted by krisblaze
DS, in case you're in danger of buying into Carter's nonsense Havok's powers are no longer a threat to his health.

They haven't been in a long time, since his abilities stabilized post Earth X.

Why can't it be used here? He picked a rock up, and Havok shot him. Carver, your argument is silly. An analogy for you:

Scenario 1
Character A picks a rock up. Character B shoots him with a gun.

Scenario 2
Character A does a little dance. Character B.....what, is now unable to shoot him with his gun?

IOW, the Summers Brothers STOMP here. Looks like someone didn't know a thing about Havok.

Good thread, though.

Lol @ the ownage. Great scans DS

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Why can't it be used here? He picked a rock up, and Havok shot him. Carver, your argument is silly. An analogy for you:

Scenario 1
Character A picks a rock up. Character B shoots him with a gun.

Scenario 2
Character A does a little dance. Character B.....what, is now unable to shoot him with his gun?

IOW, the Summers Brothers STOMP here. Looks like someone didn't know a thing about Havok.

Good thread, though.

There isn't rocks/boulders on the battlefield. Hulk would most likely punch him in the face. Nice scans though.

Originally posted by carver9
There isn't rocks/boulders on the battlefield. Hulk would most likely punch him in the face. Nice scans though.

Haha. Professor Hulk tried that. Was stopped in his tracks. And was powering Havok up as he did so.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Haha. Professor Hulk tried that. Was stopped in his tracks. And was powering Havok up as he did so.

Did Professor Hulk lose the fight?

Originally posted by carver9
Did Professor Hulk lose the fight?

Havok got an upgrade since then. Also, is Prof Hulk > or < Fixit/Abom? Not to mention, he will have TWO sources to power up from this time.

So, three points for you to counter.

1. Stabilised powers
2. Professor Hulk being at a different level to Abom/Fixit
3. HAvok being more powerful here, as he can absorb from two sources. If your answer to point #2 is that Prof Hulk > Abom/Fixit, then you lose, as it makes your question useless. If your answer to point #2 is that Prof Hulk < Abom/Fixit, then you lose, as Havok will now be able to draw on power from two more powerful sources.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Havok got an upgrade since then. Also, is Prof Hulk > or < Fixit/Abom? Not to mention, he will have TWO sources to power up from this time.

So, three points for you to counter.

1. Stabilised powers
2. Professor Hulk being at a different level to Abom/Fixit
3. HAvok being more powerful here, as he can absorb from two sources. If your answer to point #2 is that Prof Hulk > Abom/Fixit, then you lose, as it makes your question useless. If your answer to point #2 is that Prof Hulk < Abom/Fixit, then you lose, as Havok will now be able to draw on power from two more powerful sources.

Abomination is as powerful though and if he didn't take out a holding back Professor Hulk (and he didn't) then he isn't taking out Abomination. Him stopping Hulk or Abomination isn't a way to win this battle. He has to knock both of them out and he has not displayed that type of power. Cyclops is a non factor. While Havok attention is fighting Fixit or Abomination, the other could grab him from behind and do whatever they choose. He isn't fighting both at the same time and I want you to provide proof that he could withstand a punch or a head squeeze from either.

If it wasn't for you Professor, the Hulk would have hammer us all (look who is in this scan)...

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/20067771/Savage_Hulk_004-018.jpg.html

This was a recent depiction of the Hulk and Havok. Also, Havok and Abomination met recently and the Xmen couldn't do anything to Abomination...Hulk was the key at bringing him down and again, this is recent depiction.

Originally posted by carver9
Good fight.


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Lol. SO I see you haven't countered my points.

There isn't only one gamma being on the battlefield here. There are two. One of who is just as powerful as Prof Hulk, by your own admission.

Both of whom will amp Havok.

WHY DOES HE HAVE TO KNOCK THEM OUT? He's not tiring. They are amping him. Not to mention, he can send a bolt at their heads like he did against Hulk. They will be at his mercy, unable to move, and as they struggle, they will be amping him.

Lol. I have provided two instances of Havok alone taking out Hulk. One of whom is more powerful (Savage). You laughably brought up Fixit being a tactical fighter - guess who Havok has on his team?

Abom/Hulk are outclassed here.

I have provided proof, directly related, of Havok putting a gamma powered being down. You haven't provided anything.

Please provide scans of Abom/Fixit being able to stand up to Havok and a tactical genius like Cyclops?

Good scans. Thanks for showcasing them. Shows how Cyclops ISN'T a nonfactor, as he pressure points Abom and Fixit.

Originally posted by carver9
If it wasn't for you Professor, the Hulk would have hammer us all (look who is in this scan)...

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/20067771/Savage_Hulk_004-018.jpg.html

This was a recent depiction of the Hulk and Havok. Also, Havok and Abomination met recently and the Xmen couldn't do anything to Abomination...Hulk was the key at bringing him down and again, this is recent depiction.

Oooh yes, really recent. Unfortunately for you, Havok got upgraded since then. And his powers stabilised.

You really don't understand the concept of timelines, do you?

But as I said, Cyclops is able to use pressure point attacks. Good scans

Cyclops soloes.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol. SO I see you haven't countered my points.

There isn't only one gamma being on the battlefield here. There are two. One of who is just as powerful as Prof Hulk, by your own admission.

Both of whom will amp Havok.

WHY DOES HE HAVE TO KNOCK THEM OUT? He's not tiring. They are amping him. Not to mention, he can send a bolt at their heads like he did against Hulk. They will be at his mercy, unable to move, and as they struggle, they will be amping him.

Lol. I have provided two instances of Havok alone taking out Hulk. One of whom is more powerful (Savage). You laughably brought up Fixit being a tactical fighter - guess who Havok has on his team?

Abom/Hulk are outclassed here.

I have provided proof, directly related, of Havok putting a gamma powered being down. You haven't provided anything.

Please provide scans of Abom/Fixit being able to stand up to Havok and a tactical genius like Cyclops?

Cyclops gets taken out immediately.

You really haven't provided proof of anything that I didn't already know. Yes, Hulk powers somewhat amps Havok. Yes, he slowed Hulk down but he couldn't stop him which is what you are missing. He is fighting two Hulk's here. Him slowing down one doesn't constitute as a win. Do you know what a win is Dark? Him slowing down Fixit will give room for Abomination to get the grab on him. Him slowing down Abomination would give room for Fixit to grab him. What's so hard to grasp here.

Even with your other tactic of mind attack. It wasn't instantaneous. Which again leaves room for the other to attack. Are you implying he will do this to two Hulks? What if either Hulk or Abomination thunderclap, can Havok withstand that? The point is, either of the two can take him out easily, the same can't be said for Havok, unless again, you have proof and slowing Hulk down isn't it. Blasting him isn't it.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oooh yes, really recent. Unfortunately for you, Havok got upgraded since then. And his powers stabilised.

You really don't understand the concept of timelines, do you?

But as I said, Cyclops is able to use pressure point attacks. Good scans

Cyclops soloes.

Jean showed him where to attack...didn't do it on his own and it literally did nothing. Great scan.

Do you have scans of the power up?

He didn't slow him down doe, he stopped him and forced him to his knees....unable to move.

Tbh, any further posts from you would just be trolling.....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He didn't slow him down doe, he stopped him and forced him to his knees....unable to move.

Tbh, any further posts from you would just be trolling.....

Where was he on his knees in the scan, are you talking about your first scan? And again, even if that was the case, you are failing to realize that, he did this to one Hulk which leaves room for the other to attack. Again, why can't you grasp this?

Originally posted by carver9
Jean showed him where to attack...didn't do it on his own and it literally did nothing. Great scan.

You...must not know what 'literally' means. Jesus wept.



I never said powered up. I said upgraded. As in, Cyclops knows more pressure point attacks. Havok's powers are stable. That kinda thing.

Originally posted by carver9
Where was he on his knees in the scan, are you talking about your first scan? And again, even if that was the case, you are failing to realize that, he did this to one Hulk which leaves room for the other to attack. Again, why can't you grasp this?

That Havok is now twice as powerful? I can. You can't. You're acting like he needs to focus his attention, when all he needs to do is point.

We are done. Agree to disagree. Even though he amped off of Professor Hulk power, he still couldn't stop him and didn't stop him. He koed himself during the process.

Originally posted by krisblaze
DS, in case you're in danger of buying into Carter's nonsense Havok's powers are no longer a threat to his health.

They haven't been in a long time, since his abilities stabilized post Earth X.

Just leaving this here.

He's not KOing himself.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Anyway, here's another. Grey and Abom would be powering Havok up:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/108735/2889942-428844-vshulk2nz8_super.jpg

But would they overload Havok, they are so powahfull!! Grey could tank Tigra scratching him!!

Well, he was able to absorb a black hole's worth, whilst it was simultanesously weakening him:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/108735/2890027-havok_zorn.jpg

Oh, and absorbed a Star's worth. Enough to make even Vulcan, one of THE top energy manipulators in Marvel, burn:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/108735/2890073-1308997-havok_vulcan3_super.jpg

Lol. But by all means, somehow, that energy blast from Silver Iron Man and Mockinbird's sticks are more powerful than him.

And that's not even taking into account Cyclops.


What happens after this scan doesn't it continue into another book? Hulk on his knees but doesn't quit.

Originally posted by golem370
What happens after this scan doesn't it continue into another book? Hulk on his knees but doesn't quit.

That....wasn't the point lol.

Hulk is not in this thread.

I thought your point was he could beat the Hulk? Did he beat the Hulk or not?

Of course not.

Grey Hulk and Abomination win.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/59300/3845818-vs+grey+hulk4.jpg//

Originally posted by golem370

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/59300/3845818-vs+grey+hulk4.jpg

Originally posted by golem370

getting closer

Yeah I suck lol anyway the one pic is Gray Hulk getting hit by Cyclop's blast with no real damage and the other is Professor Hulk taking Vector attack until his skin is flayed off but still gets to Vector.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/59300/3845818-vs+grey+hulk4.jpg

A teen Scott sending Hulk flying, and then the Hulk tanking an attack while Cyclops tries to reason with him/save people.

And this is 20 year old Scott

This does not qualify as the Grey Hulk being unphased by Cyclops' attacks. It's an example of a much younger and weaker Cyclops being able to hurt him while holding back...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That team is far more powerful than the Summers???

Jesus Christ, carver.

Tigra?? Mockingbird? Hawkeye???

Sweet Christmas....

Yeah just completely ignore Wonder Man and Iron Man

The brothers only chance here is Havok's energy absorption powers.

That looks like an older version of Gray Hulk too though.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Yeah just completely ignore Wonder Man and Iron Man

The brothers only chance here is Havok's energy absorption powers.
Are you insane?

You think Grey Hulk and Abomb are immune to concussive force?

Abom solos.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Yeah just completely ignore Wonder Man and Iron Man

The brothers only chance here is Havok's energy absorption powers.

My bad, I didn't take into account Silver Centurion Iron Man who was trying to talk to him. And fired one (two?) blasts, that are nowhere near what HAvok or Cyclops can do.

Wonder Man did not use any energy attacks.

Fixit and Abom's only chances here are their physicality See how silly that statement sounds?

Think I should start a Havok respect thread one of these days

http://img.pandawhale.com/82287-Starsky-Hutch-DO-IT-meme-PQXx.jpeg

All Hulk threads in a nutshell:

1) Carver comes in hot to horribly back up a character he hardly knows anything about as well as how to argue intelligently

2) Darksaint fallows Carver and makes his pea brain freeze up

3) Thread falls apart

4) Time passes but the thread is marred by having to deal with Carver still posting random scans so nobody feels like bailing him out, cause by then that's what the thread is about at this point

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
My bad, I didn't take into account Silver Centurion Iron Man who was trying to talk to him. And fired one (two?) blasts, that are nowhere near what HAvok or Cyclops can do.

Wonder Man did not use any energy attacks.

Fixit and Abom's only chances here are their physicality See how silly that statement sounds?

And that same Ironman has also stalemated Thor in an arm wrestling contest and has handled Surfer before with a double ko.

He blasted Hulk and bullrushed him to no avail. Stop lowballing. Wonderman charge is more powerful than Cyclops and Havok's blasts.

So yeah Havok easily absorbed the energies of Exitar lately....

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t605648.html

Originally posted by Estacado
So yeah Havok easily absorbed the energies of Exitar lately....

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t605648.html

that scans confusing, context?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
that scans confusing, context?

It was after Thor had cut open Exitars neck and he was bleeding energy.

And Havok was absorbing it for a one last chance fight with Kang.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
It was after Thor had cut open Exitars neck and he was bleeding energy.

And Havok was absorbing it for a one last chance fight with Kang.

And? It looked like kang one shot shiro too, i actually like his character. What happened

Originally posted by Sin I AM
And? It looked like kang one shot shiro too, i actually like his character. What happened

Well after this Shiro instead became something completely different.

"Sunfire, the Atomic knight unleashed"

http://i.imgur.com/pgRRkxzl.jpg

Sorry for not replying until late Sin.

Originally posted by krisblaze
The Summers Brothers take on Fixit and Abomination.

Each team gets 5 minutes of planning before the fight starts.

Fight in an abandoned New York City.

Regular powered Cyclops/Havok and Fixit/Abom.

No a-bomb or p5.

Hulk stomps

Grey Hulk alone would lose IMO.

But maybe Abomination is too much.

In the other hand, 5 min prep is good for the Summers team...