Demons Marvel vs Demons DC

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captain_viet
Surtur, Zarathos, Mephisto, Dormammu, Chthon vs Trigon, Etrigan, Nekron, Satanus, Neron, Blue Devil

beatboks
Blue Devil, Etrigan, and Satanus are lightweights compared to all the marvel Team. They are mid to high herald when the marvel are IMO trans. Trigon could compensate for one but not all three.

Marvel should take this pretty easily.

zopzop
Nekron, the Death Abstract? T2.

abhilegend
Originally posted by beatboks
Blue Devil, Etrigan, and Satanus are lightweights compared to all the marvel Team. They are mid to high herald when the marvel are IMO trans. Trigon could compensate for one but not all three.

Marvel should take this pretty easily.
laughing out loud

Nekron solos.

beatboks
Originally posted by abhilegend
laughing out loud

Nekron solos.

ROFLMAO
Yeah right, the guy who was stalemated by. Nebiros (a demon who's been defeated by Blue Devil not once but twice) is going to solo Sutur, Zarathos and Chthon. SURE he will. we'll see pigs flying too.

abhilegend
Originally posted by beatboks
ROFLMAO
Yeah right, the guy who was stalemated by. Nebiros (a demon who's been defeated by Blue Devil not once but twice) is going to solo Sutur, Zarathos and Chthon. SURE he will. we'll see pigs flying too.
A portion of Nekron's power and Krona was destroying entire universe. He gesturely beat both Spectre and Anti-monitor and ripped Life entity in half from Sinestro.

Nekron would push these jokers' shit in. Magik beats the most powerful of them FFS.

B....but we take the highest feat of marvel characters and lowest of DC, right? That's why Galactus can stomp Specter, right?

beatboks
Originally posted by abhilegend
A portion of Nekron's power and Krona was destroying entire universe. He gesturely beat both Spectre and Anti-monitor and ripped Life entity in half from Sinestro.

Nekron would push these jokers' shit in. Magik beats the most powerful of them FFS.

B....but we take the highest feat of marvel characters and lowest of DC, right? That's why Galactus can stomp Specter, right?

That's an outlier feat compared to numerous mediocre ones. For the Marvel powerhouses on the list the opposite is true. The outlier fets are the low ones.

Facts.
1.Despite every single being who ever dies in DCU passes through Nekron's realm and increases his power he could not ever escape his own realm under solely his own power.
2. Even with a MAJOR paradox giving him the chance with a tear in reality he still required MASSIVE plot in his favor to be able to leave.
3. Unlike ANYONE else here Nekron is absolutely nothing if the link to his realm of death is severed. The others may be more powerful in thier own realms but still retain power while in others. It's not a complete exclusion.
4. He was pretty much bested a couple of times by normal spirits (who actually power him) like those of the GLC.
5. Kyle Raynor stopped him on his own (and not HOG Ion either)

Put that one uber feat on a scale against his less showings and the scale leans toward not impressed IMO.

The scale isn't so leaned for most of team marvel. Hell contextually Mephisto only bloody looses when his victory would cost him a chance at the hero's soul. Much better to loose and have a crack at a noble soul than win and loose all right or chance.

So no, I take the average of both, not relay solely on outling feats that buck the trend.

abhilegend
Originally posted by beatboks
That's an outlier feat compared to numerous mediocre ones. For the Marvel powerhouses on the list the opposite is true. The outlier fets are the low ones. I can flip that one and say that the high ones are outliers. So?

That's a rule to his own that he can't enter the land of the living. What's that has to do with power? Galactus couldn't enter a black hole once, OMG Galactus is so weakkkkkkkkk!!!
Again with the same BS. What's that has to do with power?
Because that's how he works. It has nothing to do with power.
Have you even read the comic where that happened? I mean come on.

Maybe on comicvine. Not here though.

That's why Black Panther with the help of some random magicians ripped his heart out or how Thor simply overpowered him three times?

For marvel the low ones are outliers, for DC its the high ones? WTF kind of logic is that when Nekron's high feats outweigh his low feats and Dormammu's low feats outweigh his high ones?

Do you come from bizarro world or something?

DarkSaint85
He comes from a Land Down Under.

DarkRaiden
Trigon solos. Seriously.

Golgo13
Nobody solos, but Nekron tips the scales, IMO.

DarkRaiden
Trigon's universal++. Only Chthon or w/e is even close to that and even he gets punked by Demagorge who's not close to Trigon's level.

Basically Trigon is like a stronger, demonic Galactus, and Galactus>>>.everyone on Marvel's side. By far.

dynamix
Nekron is pretty Uber isn't he? i can't see him as peers with these guys.

CadenceV2
Originally posted by abhilegend
I can flip that one and say that the high ones are outliers. So?

That's a rule to his own that he can't enter the land of the living. What's that has to do with power? Galactus couldn't enter a black hole once, OMG Galactus is so weakkkkkkkkk!!!
Again with the same BS. What's that has to do with power?
Because that's how he works. It has nothing to do with power.
Have you even read the comic where that happened? I mean come on.

Maybe on comicvine. Not here though.

That's why Black Panther with the help of some random magicians ripped his heart out or how Thor simply overpowered him three times?

For marvel the low ones are outliers, for DC its the high ones? WTF kind of logic is that when Nekron's high feats outweigh his low feats and Dormammu's low feats outweigh his high ones?

Do you come from bizarro world or something?

And this is why Comicvine has a active site and very active battle forum, cause people on here rather take a plot driven power showing and apply it to any random battle.

Team Marvel wins. Trigon is the only real threat.

Golgo13
Originally posted by CadenceV2
And this is why Comicvine has a active site and very active battle forum, cause people on here rather take a plot driven power showing and apply it to any random battle.

Team Marvel wins. Trigon is the only real threat.

What are they going to do to Nekron?

beatboks
Originally posted by abhilegend
I can flip that one and say that the high ones are outliers. So?

That's a rule to his own that he can't enter the land of the living. What's that has to do with power? Galactus couldn't enter a black hole once, OMG Galactus is so weakkkkkkkkk!!!
Again with the same BS. What's that has to do with power?
Because that's how he works. It has nothing to do with power.
Have you even read the comic where that happened? I mean come on.

Maybe on comicvine. Not here though.

That's why Black Panther with the help of some random magicians ripped his heart out or how Thor simply overpowered him three times?

For marvel the low ones are outliers, for DC its the high ones? WTF kind of logic is that when Nekron's high feats outweigh his low feats and Dormammu's low feats outweigh his high ones?

Do you come from bizarro world or something?

To be an outlier it has to be the feat less consistent with the majority. If a character has 20 appearances and three are at high level while the rest vastly below then their power average lowers. If ten are high and ten low then their power sits flat in the middle depending on the context of each. Or they can be regarded as having two levels depending on context. For example say a character can invoke the power of another but it takes time the. With power invoked that are x level without y. The. There is also context to consider.

You state all of them are below Galactus which isn't true. Dormammu is the weakest here and he with his sisters help took the power of eternity. There was context to it in that eternity was weakened by the fact that he had aspects of himself who had not returned to him that he had sent out to experience life. It's still a feat that at the least places him at Galactus level. Mephisto also has feats that level. Sutur is equal to Odin who is also the level of G (anyone remember the headbut?)

Hese are arguably the three weakest members of team marvel. Conversely the weakest members of team DC are Etrigan and Blue Devil who simply can't operate anywhere near galactic level. Aside from a few scans of Etrigan being referred to as "infinite power" and one where he is with high father and Dr Fate and they draw on his power there is nothing to place him on that level. The best feats of Blue Devil are beating Nebiros and taking down John Stewart in minutes. Believe me I know I have used both in tourneys many times and have won by pushing their high end feats.

Trigon and Nekron have a very slight power advantage over the top end characters of team marvel but not enough to compensate for the vast power difference of the lower end

abhilegend
Originally posted by CadenceV2
And this is why Comicvine has a active site and very active battle forum, cause people on here rather take a plot driven power showing and apply it to any random battle.

Team Marvel wins. Trigon is the only real threat.
No, its an active site because its somehow a site where you can make any opinion and never has to learn everything.

Originally posted by beatboks
To be an outlier it has to be the feat less consistent with the majority. Nekron has been consistently uber powered. None of these can even be compared to Mistress Death. Nekron was stated to be even more powerful than Death of Endless. That's the level he operates on. You are taking a showing where Nekron's mere presence was about to destroy multiverse and somehow connecting it with Blue Devil and Zatanna beating Nebiros to downplay Nekron's entire career. That's pathetic.

And there was a shift in cosmic axis that amped both Dormammu and Umar. So, you suck at context too? And Nekron is above Spectre and Anti-Monitor and Death of Endless who will shitstomp everyone here together.

Nekron is enough to beat all these together.

No, they are vastly more powerful than everyone here. Out of like twelve appearances in three decades he's been shown as more powerful than three high end abstracts and you think those are his outliers?

Originally posted by zopzop
It doesn't work that way. You stated she was the one and only Death.

Here is on panel evidence stating otherwise :
http://s16.postimg.org/sbakzrhw1/1340041_untitled.jpg http://s24.postimg.org/gaszkh29t/captainatom.jpg http://s23.postimg.org/d2frzbi5z/Nekron_007.jpg

There are at least three faces of the Death abstract in DC : Black Racer - Death as Inevitability, Death of the Endless - Death as Compassionate Release, Nekron - Death as Cosmic Certainty AND Death as the Ultimate Foe.

Ok now your turn.

DarkRaiden
Originally posted by beatboks
To be an outlier it has to be the feat less consistent with the majority. If a character has 20 appearances and three are at high level while the rest vastly below then their power average lowers. If ten are high and ten low then their power sits flat in the middle depending on the context of each. Or they can be regarded as having two levels depending on context. For example say a character can invoke the power of another but it takes time the. With power invoked that are x level without y. The. There is also context to consider.

You state all of them are below Galactus which isn't true. Dormammu is the weakest here and he with his sisters help took the power of eternity. There was context to it in that eternity was weakened by the fact that he had aspects of himself who had not returned to him that he had sent out to experience life. It's still a feat that at the least places him at Galactus level. Mephisto also has feats that level. Sutur is equal to Odin who is also the level of G (anyone remember the headbut?)

Hese are arguably the three weakest members of team marvel. Conversely the weakest members of team DC are Etrigan and Blue Devil who simply can't operate anywhere near galactic level. Aside from a few scans of Etrigan being referred to as "infinite power" and one where he is with high father and Dr Fate and they draw on his power there is nothing to place him on that level. The best feats of Blue Devil are beating Nebiros and taking down John Stewart in minutes. Believe me I know I have used both in tourneys many times and have won by pushing their high end feats.

Trigon and Nekron have a very slight power advantage over the top end characters of team marvel but not enough to compensate for the vast power difference of the lower end

Odin got destroyed by Galactus. Literally killed himself to only stun Galactus. Dormammu/Eternity thing is riddled with so much context it's not even a legit feat.

No one on the Marvel side is universal+ or multi-versal like Trigon is. He solos.

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