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Who wins?

Been done buttttttt.....i think they stalemate. WW3 BA didn't face any really serious threats and the ones he did jobbed and same goes for Banner.

BLACK ADAM THROWS HIM INTO SPACE TO AIMLESSLY FLOAT AROUND

bfr easy win, black adam would win even without bfr.

WW Hulk would brutally kick his face in.

BA wins.

Hulk.

Originally posted by Stoic
WW Hulk would brutally kick his face in.

Black adam is so much faster, how the f*ck does hulk do anything to him?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114115/2998496-jay+vs+black+adam+race+2.jpg

Here he goes above 500 mach

http://img147.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-10420/loc24/7f423_spectree.jpg
http://img135.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-14043/loc24/b9d9d_spectree2.jpg

black adam has taken on the spectre.

He has kept up with superman in combat he is much faster than hulk and is way more versatile, i would have more scan but i am busy atm.

Stalemate.

HAHHA JUST NOTICED THAT BFR IS ON, ADAM THROWS HIM INTO SPACE.

also in carver's own words he said that wwh is weak to magic....bet he would deny the sh*t out of that if he debated in this thread.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Stalemate.

Originally posted by quanchi112


Looks like somebody knows nothing about black adam.

nevermind. Edit.

Originally posted by Star428
nevermind. Edit.

He said hulk wins and now he is laughing at someone who thinks they stalemate...black adam is superior.

Originally posted by thingy150
Looks like somebody knows nothing about black adam. I know perfectly well shi Black Adam is. The way he fights is going to play into Hulk's favor. HIs face will look worse than from a dose of MM vision.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I know perfectly well shi Black Adam is. The way he fights is going to play into Hulk's favor. HIs face will look worse than from a dose of MM vision.



Lol you know how he fights so why don't you know that it will not help hulk. adam rushes and gives the fight everything he has especially ww3, so he is basically going to use his HUGE speed advantage and f*ck hulks face.

hystericalhystericalhystericalhysterical

Originally posted by thingy150
Lol you know how he fights so why don't you know that it will not help hulk. adam rushes and gives the fight everything he has especially ww3, so he is basically going to use his HUGE speed advantage and f*ck hulks face. Nah, he is going to get tagged left and right. Hulk hits him in the mouth and knocks his teeth out. Teth goes down. Hulk'a healing factor and dynamic strength are too much to overcome.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah, he is going to get tagged left and right. Hulk hits him in the mouth and knocks his teeth out. Teth goes down. Hulk'a healing factor and dynamic strength are too much to overcome.

Yup, you cannot prove that hulk is on adams speed/reaction time lvl so you just ignore it, hulk is not that fast and you cannot prove otherwise. If i remember correctly wwh got knocked out, adam would do the same but worse.

and according to carver hulk is weak against magic.

BA.

Originally posted by thingy150
Yup, you cannot prove that hulk is on adams speed/reaction time lvl so you just ignore it, hulk is not that fast and you cannot prove otherwise. If i remember correctly wwh got knocked out, adam would do the same but worse.

and according to carver hulk is weak against magic. I am arguing in character how he fought in the arc. You're making things up, sports

When did wW Hulk get knocked out ?

He shrugged off Strange/Zom's attacks just fine. Did you even read the arc ?

Originally posted by thingy150
Black adam is so much faster, how the f*ck does hulk do anything to him?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114115/2998496-jay+vs+black+adam+race+2.jpg

Here he goes above 500 mach

http://img147.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-10420/loc24/7f423_spectree.jpg
http://img135.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-14043/loc24/b9d9d_spectree2.jpg

black adam has taken on the spectre.

He has kept up with superman in combat he is much faster than hulk and is way more versatile, i would have more scan but i am busy atm.

He would hit him the same way that he hit Sentry. BA would be chin checked at the door. That was used as an example that the Hulk is capable of hitting very fast characters, and not an opening to turn this into a WW Hulk vs The Sentry. He did it on panel so there is no warrant for you to ask how he would hit him.

How is he way more versatile, and since when does versatility win fights? The X-Men as a whole were more versatile, and they were treated like the junior leagues.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am arguing in character how he fought in the arc. You're making things up, sports

When did wW Hulk get knocked out ?

He shrugged off Strange/Zom's attacks just fine. Did you even read the arc ?

Him and sentry knocked each other out...

Sentry and WWH didn't knock each other out. Read a comic. As for the thread...Hulk stomps. This isn't a fight Adam wants.

Originally posted by Stoic
He would hit him the same way that he hit Sentry. BA would be chin checked at the door. That was used as an example that the Hulk is capable of hitting very fast characters, and not an opening to turn this into a WW Hulk vs The Sentry. He did it on panel so there is no warrant for you to ask how he would hit him.

How is he way more versatile, and since when does versatility win fights? The X-Men as a whole were more versatile, and they were treated like the junior leagues.

Of course, you came here and you made a bunch of claims without proving them. Adam is much faster.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/27470/2003639-1689515_adam_vs_jay_garrick.jpg

Here he dodges multiple shots thrown from jay garrick before jay hits him.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/105634/3768677-black+adam+vs+jsa+3.jpg

Found this scan, he messes up power girl and then HE HITS JAY GARRICK WHO IS TRYING TO BLITZ HIM.

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i53/truestrength/black%20adam/BlackAdamvsSuperman3.jpg

adam has been able to fight superman and handle his combat speed/strength

adam is too fast for the hulk, you cannot prove that hulk can touch him because hulk does not have any reaction time/speed scans near adam.

Originally posted by carver9
Sentry and WWH didn't knock each other out. Read a comic. As for the thread...Hulk stomps. This isn't a fight Adam wants.

Hulk reverted back to banner and sentry expended too much power.

Hulk does not have the speed feats carver, you know this to be true quit being a fanboy.

Originally posted by carver9
Sentry and WWH didn't knock each other out. Read a comic. As for the thread...Hulk stomps. This isn't a fight Adam wants.

Originally posted by thingy150
Him and sentry knocked each other out... No, they did not. Ignorance.

Originally posted by thingy150
Of course, you came here and you made a bunch of claims without proving them. Adam is much faster.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/27470/2003639-1689515_adam_vs_jay_garrick.jpg

Here he dodges multiple shots thrown from jay garrick before jay hits him.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/105634/3768677-black+adam+vs+jsa+3.jpg

Found this scan, he messes up power girl and then HE HITS JAY GARRICK WHO IS TRYING TO BLITZ HIM.

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i53/truestrength/black%20adam/BlackAdamvsSuperman3.jpg

adam has been able to fight superman and handle his combat speed/strength

adam is too fast for the hulk, you cannot prove that hulk can touch him because hulk does not have any reaction time/speed scans near adam.

Teth is much faster than who? Sentry? Care to prove it? The Sentry was BFR'd far as hell by the Collective, and made his way back in no time. How long did it take Teth to travel back from his BFR long ago? Scans that have nothing to do with Sentry and everything to do with Teth will not cut it, nor will it prove that Teth is actually faster.

Why are you comparing those guys to the Green Scar in those scans? What does that have to do with you proving anything. Don't scatter brain on me now.

Tell me how a character like Teth beats the Green Scar, when in character he always gets up close for the brawl? Tell me how he beats a guy that was walking around calmly and had the toughness to take a hit to his intestines from a being that was measured to be 113 Herc's? What happens when the Green Scar turns up the heat on him?

Teth during WW111 took on a bunch of heroes that seemingly forgot that they had powers, and were literally running, flying, and walking into his fists. Tell me something, do you know anything about this version of the Hulk? Even nerfed down to the limit of the WW Hulk arc, he would beat the snot out of Teth. They are on entirely different levels of power.

Originally posted by thingy150
Hulk reverted back to banner and sentry expended too much power.

Hulk does not have the speed feats carver, you know this to be true quit being a fanboy.

Hulk wins this fight.

I have not read wwh since it came out, i think tony might have done something to knock him out or depower him.

Originally posted by thingy150
Him and sentry knocked each other out...

What is the Hulk's real name? Is it Bruce Banner? Bruce was never KO'd.

Originally posted by thingy150
I have not read wwh since it came out, i think tony might have done something to knock him out or depower him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Logic makes you laugh? That'd explain a lot of things bro.

Originally posted by thingy150
I have not read wwh since it came out, i think tony might have done something to knock him out or depower him. So you admit your memory is foggy thus discounting your opinion here.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Logic makes you laugh? That'd explain a lot of things bro. A stalemate is illogical. Hulk gets stronger as the fight progresses and Black Adam loses teeth. Simple.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Logic makes you laugh? That'd explain a lot of things bro.

Lol..the best and only logic here is Hulk wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
A stalemate is illogical. Hulk gets stronger as the fight progresses and Black Adam loses teeth. Simple. Or black adam punches him into outer space. Simpler.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Or black adam punches him into outer space. Simpler. Who has he ever punched into outer space ? Quit making things up. Stick to the facts not your wet dreams.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Or black adam punches him into outer space. Simpler.

How does he do that exactly? It was shown as clear as day that the Green Scar was capable of hitting a very fast character when he tagged the Sentry in mid bull rush. It can't even be said that the Sentry wasn't really using his speed, because we actually see him on panel moving very fast, only to be punched directly in the face. He didn't appear to be moving slow at all. If the Hulk was shown to be able to hit him, what stops him from hitting Teth?

Teth would be brutally bullied here, and this is based on his consistent fighting style.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Who has he ever punched into outer space ? Quit making things up. Stick to the facts not your wet dreams. He hangs with kryptonians, characters that can actually resist bfr, hulk can not. You don't understand facts.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol..the best and only logic here is Hulk wins. Without bfr? Agreed.

Originally posted by Stoic
Teth is much faster than who? Sentry? Care to prove it? The Sentry was BFR'd far as hell by the Collective, and made his way back in no time. How long did it take Teth to travel back from his BFR long ago? Scans that have nothing to do with Sentry and everything to do with Teth will not cut it, nor will it prove that Teth is actually faster.

Why are you comparing those guys to the Green Scar in those scans? What does that have to do with you proving anything. Don't scatter brain on me now.

Tell me how a character like Teth beats the Green Scar, when in character he always gets up close for the brawl? Tell me how he beats a guy that was walking around calmly and had the toughness to take a hit to his intestines from a being that was measured to be 113 Herc's? What happens when the Green Scar turns up the heat on him?

Teth during WW111 took on a bunch of heroes that seemingly forgot that they had powers, and were literally running, flying, and walking into his fists. Tell me something, do you know anything about this version of the Hulk? Even nerfed down to the limit of the WW Hulk arc, he would beat the snot out of Teth. They are on entirely different levels of power.

Yup, just you talking again, i just proved that black adam is faster then hulk and all you can do is disagree, you continue to lack scans and you don't even have a counter argument.

Teth always speed blitzes everyone he fights especially ww3 adam, he will use his superior speed that i already proved he had and he will wreck hulk.

You still have not and can not prove that hulk is on adams speed/reaction time level, you think that hulk will touch someone who has tagged jay garrick trying to speed blitz, are you joking. I have noticed a recurring pattern of you coming into a thread claiming a bunch of things and not proving any of them. Is this what you do, just proclaim something the truth without using scans and then get crushed by scans and inevitably leave?

http://img147.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-24137/loc24/c87fd_bavssuperman1.jpg
http://img146.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-23871/loc24/29cf6_bavssuperman2.jpg
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http://img20.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-17421/loc24/55c0f_bavssuperman4.jpg
http://img135.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-31179/loc24/90599_bavssuperman6.jpg
http://img130.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-27281/loc24/84246_bavssuperman7.jpg
http://img145.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-31935/loc24/44a9c_bavssuperman8.jpg
http://img43.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-14289/loc24/d243d_bavssuperman10.jpg

Black adam matches speed and strength with post crisis superman, i am missing 2 pages.

http://img9.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-2051/loc24/bebbd_jlaa1.jpg
http://img144.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-1469/loc24/e5cbd_jlaa2.jpg

Adam is able to break out of GL constructs easily.

http://img141.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-17336/loc24/e35b0_kahndc4.jpg
http://img147.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-3665/loc24/5aa36_kahndc5.jpg
http://img130.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-21009/loc24/4bfd9_kahndc6.jpg
http://img131.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-19514/loc24/d4b52_kahndc7.jpg
http://img141.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-17336/loc24/0a127_kahndc8.jpg
http://img111.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-28021/loc24/bebc4_kahndc9.jpg

Adam takes on POWERGIRL, alan scott, HAWKMAN, mr terrific, wild cat, dr mid night, JAY GARRICK, HAWKGIRL and DOCTOR FATE all at the same time, he even hits a speed blitzing jay garrick.

Adam is too fast for the hulk, there is no way you can prove otherwise.

I have already proven hulk is not fast enough for adam, you do not have the scans to prove that hulk can even touch him. Your petty arguments that hulk will hit adam without proving he can actually touch him are not enough, adam wins.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
He hangs with kryptonians, characters that can actually resist bfr, hulk can not. You don't understand facts. Hulk resisted a character far faster than him who tried to Bfr him. Fact. It isn't a fact Black Adam can bfr to space. You made it up.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Without bfr? Agreed.

BFR is not a certainty. The Hulk has a very high chance of being able to react, and grab him. Teth is not the type to go for the BFR either, he's the warrior type, and is prone to mixing it up with his opponents. based on the way he fights, Teth would be brutally defeated. You can't use Superman to prove that Black Adam is more than he actually is. Superman's feats are his own, and he has plot armor that DC has never given BA.

Originally posted by thingy150
I have already proven hulk is not fast enough for adam, you do not have the scans to prove that hulk can even touch him. Your petty arguments that hulk will hit adam without proving he can actually touch him are not enough, adam wins.

You have not proven a thing. prove that the Green Scar would be unable to hit BA. Prove that BA is faster than the Sentry, and then prove that BA is stronger than the Sentry. Using Superman's feats aren't proof.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk resisted a character far faster than him who tried to Bfr him. Fact. It isn't a fact Black Adam can bfr to space. You made it up. An amped hulk was bfr by a weakened thor.

Originally posted by Stoic
BFR is not a certainty. The Hulk has a very high chance of being able to react, and grab him. Teth is not the type to go for the BFR either, he's the warrior type, and is prone to mixing it up with his opponents. based on the way he fights, Teth would be brutally defeated. You can't use Superman to prove that Black Adam is more than he actually is. Superman's feats are his own, and he has plot armor that DC has never given BA. In WW3 he certainly has a plot armor just like hulk had in WWH. He fought intelligently and was amped iirc.

Originally posted by thingy150
Yup, just you talking again, i just proved that black adam is faster then hulk and all you can do is disagree, you continue to lack scans and you don't even have a counter argument.

Teth always speed blitzes everyone he fights especially ww3 adam, he will use his superior speed that i already proved he had and he will wreck hulk.

You still have not and can not prove that hulk is on adams speed/reaction time level, you think that hulk will touch someone who has tagged jay garrick trying to speed blitz, are you joking. I have noticed a recurring pattern of you coming into a thread claiming a bunch of things and not proving any of them. Is this what you do, just proclaim something the truth without using scans and then get crushed by scans and inevitably leave?

http://img147.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-24137/loc24/c87fd_bavssuperman1.jpg
http://img146.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-23871/loc24/29cf6_bavssuperman2.jpg
http://img147.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-24137/loc24/c39ea_bavssuperman3.jpg
http://img20.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-17421/loc24/55c0f_bavssuperman4.jpg
http://img135.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-31179/loc24/90599_bavssuperman6.jpg
http://img130.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-27281/loc24/84246_bavssuperman7.jpg
http://img145.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-31935/loc24/44a9c_bavssuperman8.jpg
http://img43.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-14289/loc24/d243d_bavssuperman10.jpg

Black adam matches speed and strength with post crisis superman, i am missing 2 pages.

http://img9.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-2051/loc24/bebbd_jlaa1.jpg
http://img144.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-1469/loc24/e5cbd_jlaa2.jpg

Adam is able to break out of GL constructs easily.

http://img141.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-17336/loc24/e35b0_kahndc4.jpg
http://img147.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-3665/loc24/5aa36_kahndc5.jpg
http://img130.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-21009/loc24/4bfd9_kahndc6.jpg
http://img131.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-19514/loc24/d4b52_kahndc7.jpg
http://img141.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-17336/loc24/0a127_kahndc8.jpg
http://img111.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-28021/loc24/bebc4_kahndc9.jpg

Adam takes on POWERGIRL, alan scott, HAWKMAN, mr terrific, wild cat, dr mid night, JAY GARRICK, HAWKGIRL and DOCTOR FATE all at the same time, he even hits a speed blitzing jay garrick.

Adam is too fast for the hulk, there is no way you can prove otherwise.

I don't need scans. I know the story just like you know the story. The Hulk was able to tag a speeding Sentry on the chin. Your scans aren't relevant as proof of anything. none of the scans are working anyways.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Without bfr? Agreed.

When has Adam EVER attempted bfring someone? I think people here are debating entirely off of power set, forgetting these beings fight in character. Debating like this, no one short of Odin is beating Surfer and Thor.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
An amped hulk was bfr by a weakened thor.

In WW3 he certainly has a plot armor just like hulk had in WWH. He fought intelligently and was amped iirc.

Look what Thor had to do to bfr Hulk though and it nearly costed him.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
An amped hulk was bfr by a weakened thor.

In WW3 he certainly has a plot armor just like hulk had in WWH. He fought intelligently and was amped iirc.

Actually all of the characters other than the Hulk had plot armor, because he was written down during WW Hulk in comparison to what he did on Sakaar. Nice try though. BA isn't beating a guy that can go from base strength in less than 5 panels to being able to over power an explosion capable to destroying a planet larger than the Earth. There is no way that BA is winning this.

Originally posted by carver9
Look what Thor had to do to bfr Hulk though and it nearly costed him.

that wasn't even the Green Scar, so arguing is pointless. the Hulk was under possession like the rest of those cats that got hold of those stupid weapons.

Originally posted by Stoic
I don't need scans. I know the story just like you know the story. The Hulk was able to tag a speeding Sentry on the chin. Your scans aren't relevant as proof of anything. none of the scans are working anyways.

Sentry is not as fast as black adam, the only reason you say scans do not matter is because you do not have any to support your biased argument. You proclaiming something does nothing to further this thread so why are you even responding to me if all you are going to do is pull sh*t out of your ass.

Originally posted by Stoic
that wasn't even the Green Scar, so arguing is pointless. the Hulk was under possession like the rest of those cats that got hold of those stupid weapons.



Green Scar also said that he could kill Nul but he didn't do it because he was afraid of them merging. Nul wasn't and isn't WWH.

Originally posted by carver9
When has Adam EVER attempted bfring someone? I think people here are debating entirely off of power set, forgetting these beings fight in character. Debating like this, no one short of Odin is beating Surfer and Thor.

Well i am basing my fight off of powerset and character, adam speed blitzes, he is much faster than wwh, wwh cannot touch him, you have yet to prove otherwise, cool story.

Originally posted by thingy150
Sentry is not as fast as black adam, the only reason you say scans do not matter is because you do not have any to support your biased argument. You proclaiming something does nothing to further this thread so why are you even responding to me if all you are going to do is pull sh*t out of your ass.

There are plenty of scans of the Hulk in his respect section. None of those scans that you posted actually work. Prove that BA is faster than the Sentry. Exactly you can't, so stick with what you know.

Originally posted by thingy150
Well i am basing my fight off of powerset and character, adam speed blitzes, he is much faster than wwh, wwh cannot touch him, you have yet to prove otherwise, cool story.

WW Hulk would touch him, because BA gets up in his opponents faces. You are basically fighting the battle for him. We don't argue power set alone around here, we use several ways to get to the bottom. Character is regarded above power set around here, because you can have a million powers but lack the intelligence to use them. BA on average brawls it out, and locks up in tests of strength. He'd get his butt handed to him.

Originally posted by Stoic
WW Hulk would touch him, because BA gets up in his opponents faces. You are basically fighting the battle for him. We don't argue power set alone around here, we use several ways to get to the bottom. Character is regarded above power set around here, because you can have a million powers but lack the intelligence to use them. BA on average brawls it out, and locks up in tests of strength. He'd get his butt handed to him.

Lol him getting in his face is your answer, hulk has zero speed feats neat adam, adam has kept up with superman and slapped away a speed blitzing flash.

Him getting in his face proves nothing because hulk is still not fast enough to hit him.

are you seriously that naive that you think a slow character is going to touch someone who can go 500+ mach and keep up with a flash just because he is in his "face" are you joking.

Your argument is hilarious because you don't have one lol.

Originally posted by thingy150
Well i am basing my fight off of powerset and character, adam speed blitzes, he is much faster than wwh, wwh cannot touch him, you have yet to prove otherwise, cool story.

So you have those scans of Adam being untouchable? I'll be waiting.

Don't be a hypocrite...these are your words about Thor "When thor fights he does not use the full versatility". You're using this against him in the Orion thread. You are all over the place. After my next post to you, you will be on ignore. I just need to decide which thread I am going to reply to you in.

Originally posted by carver9
So you have those scans of Adam being untouchable? I'll be waiting.

Don't be a hypocrite...these are your words about Thor "When thor fights he does not use the full versatility". You're using this against him in the Orion thread. You are all over the place. After my next post to you, you will be on ignore. I just need to decide which thread I am going to reply to you in.

Thor does not, i am strictly using how adam fights and ADAMS MIND SET IN WW3. adam rushed and speed blitzed literally everyone and he will do the same thing to the hulk.

I have already put scans up of him hitting a speed blitzing jay garrick and going 500+ mach.

Hulk will not hit him.

ARE YOU F*CKING RETARDED, CALLING ME A HYPOCRITE FOR ACCURATELY STATING HOW THOR AND ADAM FIGHT.

Originally posted by carver9
So you have those scans of Adam being untouchable? I'll be waiting.

Don't be a hypocrite...these are your words about Thor "When thor fights he does not use the full versatility". You're using this against him in the Orion thread. You are all over the place. After my next post to you, you will be on ignore. I just need to decide which thread I am going to reply to you in.

No he doesn't. His arguments are pretty stupid, because none of that actually happens in comics. His argument is that since he keeps up with Superman, he's untouchable, and yet Eiling was hitting Superman. BA as we both know slugs it out with is opponents,

Originally posted by Stoic
No he doesn't. His arguments are pretty stupid, because none of that actually happens in comics. His argument is that since he keeps up with Superman, he's untouchable, and yet Eiling was hitting Superman. BA as we both know slugs it out with is opponents,



The guy is inconsistent and he can't even remember his debating style in other threads. I'll leave him to you all...don't think he will be on KMC for long.

Originally posted by carver9


The guy is inconsistent and he can't even remember his debating style in other threads. I'll leave him to you all...don't think he will be on KMC for long.

Carver remember captain atom vs hulk


WHERE YOU GOT DESTROYED BY SCANS AND LOGIC AND COMPLETELY EMBARRASSED YOURSELF.....GOOD JOB BUDDY

and then you ran away LOL

Originally posted by Stoic
No he doesn't. His arguments are pretty stupid, because none of that actually happens in comics. His argument is that since he keeps up with Superman, he's untouchable, and yet Eiling was hitting Superman. BA as we both know slugs it out with is opponents,

Actually i had scans of him keeping up with jay garrick and having great enough reaction speed to knock out a blitzing jay garrick.

along with him being stated as going mach 500+


You do not have an argument against speed so you are butthurt, lol.

"pretty stupid because none of that actually happens in comics" none of what? do you mean speed advantages don't happen? because they do, ever heard of the flash who adam just knocked senseless while he was trying to blitz. Speed is a huge factor in a fight and i have shown how much faster adam is than hulk and you have done nothing to counter because hulk is simply not fast enough to compete.

ALSO CARVER YOU KNOW WHATS HILARIOUS, WHEN YOU SAID THAT HULK HAS A WEAKNESS TO MAGIC

LOOKS LIKE BLACK ADAM HAS ANOTHER MAJOR ADVANTAGE.

You claim to debate character, but all you debate is power set. End of discussion.

Originally posted by thingy150
Actually i had scans of him keeping up with jay garrick and having great enough reaction speed to knock out a blitzing jay garrick.

along with him being stated as going mach 500+


You do not have an argument against speed so you are butthurt, lol.

"pretty stupid because none of that actually happens in comics" none of what? do you mean speed advantages don't happen? because they do, ever heard of the flash who adam just knocked senseless while he was trying to blitz. Speed is a huge factor in a fight and i have shown how much faster adam is than hulk and you have done nothing to counter because hulk is simply not fast enough to compete.

I'm not butthurt. What you keep doing is ignoring what happened on panel. The Sentry is a legit speedster, in both travel speed, and movement speed. You posted scans of BA which had nothing to do with you proving that the Sentry is not just as fast as BA. What does Jay or the Flash have to do with anything? The Flash rarely takes it up to his highest speed levels in comics.

The Hulk was able to meet the Sentry on his level of speed, and succeeded in not just punching him, but he tagged him right on the button. Sentry was not moving slow. What you do is ignore valid points and continue to rant about power set. This version of the Hulk is too much of a threat for BA to handle. You keep talking about speed, but then you ignore that Superman was nearly flattened by Eiling. What do you say to that? you turn around and post more irrelevant scans that have nothing to do with anything, and then claim that you won some debate. That's not how it works.

Originally posted by thingy150
Yup, just you talking again, i just proved that black adam is faster then hulk and all you can do is disagree, you continue to lack scans and you don't even have a counter argument.

Teth always speed blitzes everyone he fights especially ww3 adam, he will use his superior speed that i already proved he had and he will wreck hulk.

You still have not and can not prove that hulk is on adams speed/reaction time level, you think that hulk will touch someone who has tagged jay garrick trying to speed blitz, are you joking. I have noticed a recurring pattern of you coming into a thread claiming a bunch of things and not proving any of them. Is this what you do, just proclaim something the truth without using scans and then get crushed by scans and inevitably leave?

http://img147.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-24137/loc24/c87fd_bavssuperman1.jpg
http://img146.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-23871/loc24/29cf6_bavssuperman2.jpg
http://img147.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-24137/loc24/c39ea_bavssuperman3.jpg
http://img20.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-17421/loc24/55c0f_bavssuperman4.jpg
http://img135.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-31179/loc24/90599_bavssuperman6.jpg
http://img130.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-27281/loc24/84246_bavssuperman7.jpg
http://img145.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-31935/loc24/44a9c_bavssuperman8.jpg
http://img43.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-14289/loc24/d243d_bavssuperman10.jpg

Black adam matches speed and strength with post crisis superman, i am missing 2 pages.

http://img9.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-2051/loc24/bebbd_jlaa1.jpg
http://img144.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-1469/loc24/e5cbd_jlaa2.jpg

Adam is able to break out of GL constructs easily.

http://img141.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-17336/loc24/e35b0_kahndc4.jpg
http://img147.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-3665/loc24/5aa36_kahndc5.jpg
http://img130.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-21009/loc24/4bfd9_kahndc6.jpg
http://img131.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-19514/loc24/d4b52_kahndc7.jpg
http://img141.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-17336/loc24/0a127_kahndc8.jpg
http://img111.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-28021/loc24/bebc4_kahndc9.jpg

Adam takes on POWERGIRL, alan scott, HAWKMAN, mr terrific, wild cat, dr mid night, JAY GARRICK, HAWKGIRL and DOCTOR FATE all at the same time, he even hits a speed blitzing jay garrick.

Adam is too fast for the hulk, there is no way you can prove otherwise.

What about these scans do not work, aren't you getting?

Originally posted by Stoic
What about these scans do not work, aren't you getting?

You mean the speed feats that prove adam is much faster in both speed and reaction time, are you joking, do you not know how speed and reaction time work.

Are you just going to continue to not have an argument, yes, no, i'm going to go with yes.

Originally posted by thingy150
You mean the speed feats that prove adam is much faster in both speed and reaction time, are you joking, do you not know how speed and reaction time work.

Are you just going to continue to not have an argument, yes, no, i'm going to go with yes.

The scans did not work. Do you understand what that means. Should I speak French for you? Speed is not going to stop the Hulk from hitting him. The hulk was able to hit a legit speedster, more than once. he was able to react and punch the Sentry when he flew in to attack him. You have done nothing to prove that BA is actually faster than the Sentry either. If the Hulk can hit the Sentry on panel, he can hit BA. BA is also under powered here, and would need help to take on this version of the Hulk.

Originally posted by Stoic
I'm not butthurt. What you keep doing is ignoring what happened on panel. The Sentry is a legit speedster, in both travel speed, and movement speed. You posted scans of BA which had nothing to do with you proving that the Sentry is not just as fast as BA. What does Jay or the Flash have to do with anything? The Flash rarely takes it up to his highest speed levels in comics.

The Hulk was able to meet the Sentry on his level of speed, and succeeded in not just punching him, but he tagged him right on the button. Sentry was not moving slow. What you do is ignore valid points and continue to rant about power set. This version of the Hulk is too much of a threat for BA to handle. You keep talking about speed, but then you ignore that Superman was nearly flattened by Eiling. What do you say to that? you turn around and post more irrelevant scans that have nothing to do with anything, and then claim that you won some debate. That's not how it works.

You claim sentry is a speedster, yet you have shown nothing, the reason you have not put up scans is because sentry is not even close to as fast as adam. Are you seriously going to debate using sentry who does not have the reaction time or speed adam does? Sentry also fought like a dumbass during the wwh arc. Is that seriously your argument? Zero scans just you claiming things that the comics have proven untrue, adam is faster than sentry i have shown scans to prove this.

How is adam keeping up with some of the fastest people in the DC universe irrelevant? Are you still serious?

At the end of the day i have proven adam to be much faster and have much better reaction time than the hulk. Your only retort has been claims that you have still yet to back up. Do you know how to argue? When you debate you have to use evidence, you have not come close to using any evidence to support your debate. Sentry is not as fast and he does not have the reaction time of adam, your argument is not valid.

I have been debating in character this entire time, the way black adam fights especially in ww3 is by speed blitzing his enemies, he sill do this to the hulk and my scans have proven hulk is not fast enough to touch him.

Originally posted by Stoic
The scans did not work. Do you understand what that means. Should I speak French for you? Speed is not going to stop the Hulk from hitting him. The hulk was able to hit a legit speedster, more than once. he was able to react and punch the Sentry when he flew in to attack him. You have done nothing to prove that BA is actually faster than the Sentry either. If the Hulk can hit the Sentry on panel, he can hit BA. BA is also under powered here, and would need help to take on this version of the Hulk.

Are you an autistic 3rd grader, you proclaiming my feats do not work does not mean that they don't. I have busted out multiple speed feats that are above anything hulk has ever done, i have proven adam is light years faster than the hulk. I HAVE THE SCANS UP OF BLACK ADAMS SPEED FEATS, YOU HAVE YET TO PUT UP ANY FEATS SO HOW CAN YOU SAY SENTRY OS FASTER WHEN YOU HAVE PROVEN LITERALLY NOTHING. Your logic is so flawed it is hilarious. Do you not know how speed works? YOU CANNOT SAY THAT SENTRY IS FASTER THAN ADAM BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT DISPUTED MY SCANS AND YOU HAVE NOT USED SCANS OF YOUR OWN.

SENTRY DID NOT EVEN USE HIS SPEED IN THE FIGHT AGAINST WWH, THAT WHOLE ARC WAS PIS, HULKS NORMAL SPEED IS BEING OUT PACED BY SPIDERMAN.

Hulk is not a fast character, he has no speed feats on the lvl of black adam, you have not proven any of you ridiculous claims.

Originally posted by thingy150
You claim sentry is a speedster, yet you have shown nothing, the reason you have not put up scans is because sentry is not even close to as fast as adam. Are you seriously going to debate using sentry who does not have the reaction time or speed adam does? Sentry also fought like a dumbass during the wwh arc. Is that seriously your argument? Zero scans just you claiming things that the comics have proven untrue, adam is faster than sentry i have shown scans to prove this.

How is adam keeping up with some of the fastest people in the DC universe irrelevant? Are you still serious?

At the end of the day i have proven adam to be much faster and have much better reaction time than the hulk. Your only retort has been claims that you have still yet to back up. Do you know how to argue? When you debate you have to use evidence, you have not come close to using any evidence to support your debate. Sentry is not as fast and he does not have the reaction time of adam, your argument is not valid.

I have been debating in character this entire time, the way black adam fights especially in ww3 is by speed blitzing his enemies, he sill do this to the hulk and my scans have proven hulk is not fast enough to touch him.

The Sentry is a legit speedster, are you kidding me? have you ever read anything with the character in it? Honest question.

It's irrelevant, because the Flash rarely uses his top speed in fights. nor does it mean that BA is as fast as the Flash is at his top speeds. That is why it is irrelevant.

Teth is faster than the Hulk, but so is the Sentry, but you seem to happen to know nothing about. Yet claim to know that BA is actually faster without even knowing the character. The Hulk hit him, just like he would hit BA. When has BA shown that was unable to be hit? Show me this. You can't so let's stop pretending.

All you are debating is power set, but you keep forgetting that BA slugs it out in his fights. He doesn't zip in throw 50 punches, and run away, to start the cycle up again.

You don't debate in character, you debate how you would fight in place of the character. As in you debate your character, and pass it off as if you are debating the fictional character's personality. BA is a brawler, and has a poor temper. he loves to get in there and grapple with his opponent in tests of strength. Just admit that you aren't familiar with the Sentry, because if you were you would never be asking for scans of his battle with the Hulk, or pretending like you've never seen the Hulk punch him in his face as he flew in to attack him. If you are familiar with it, stop asking me to prove it with scans, because to me that's just deceitful.

Originally posted by thingy150
Are you an autistic 3rd grader, you proclaiming my feats do not work does not mean that they don't. I have busted out multiple speed feats that are above anything hulk has ever done, i have proven adam is light years faster than the hulk. I HAVE THE SCANS UP OF BLACK ADAMS SPEED FEATS, YOU HAVE YET TO PUT UP ANY FEATS SO HOW CAN YOU SAY SENTRY OS FASTER WHEN YOU HAVE PROVEN LITERALLY NOTHING. Your logic is so flawed it is hilarious. Do you not know how speed works? YOU CANNOT SAY THAT SENTRY IS FASTER THAN ADAM BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT DISPUTED MY SCANS AND YOU HAVE NOT USED SCANS OF YOUR OWN.

SENTRY DID NOT EVEN USE HIS SPEED IN THE FIGHT AGAINST WWH, THAT WHOLE ARC WAS PIS, HULKS NORMAL SPEED IS BEING OUT PACED BY SPIDERMAN.

Hulk is not a fast character, he has no speed feats on the lvl of black adam, you have not proven any of you ridiculous claims.

Those scans do not work, or at least not on my PC. Are you stupid or something?

Originally posted by Stoic
Those scans do not work, or at least not on my PC. Are you stupid or something?

You mean that they do not work as in Oh LOL, i thought you meant they did not mean anything.

ok here is the source

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=388851&pagenumber=1

see if they work on the thread i got most of them from, he stops a speed blitzing jay garrick takes on the JLA twice(each time has multiple heavy hitters fighting him) he went mach 500+ racing jay.

It also has the supes fights and a bunch of cap marvel fights.

Watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKYkMRG4mj8

And you cannot call someone stupid while you have been making extraordinary claims all day and not once have you provided evidence for these claims.

You have to quote the scans, and then copy and paste them for them to work. That is why I was unable to view them.

At 1:23 of this video you will see what I am talking about. The Sentry is a legit speedster. In his respect section he battles the Collective in the New Avengers. The Collective BFR's him into deep space, and he make it back fairly fast. This shows that he has light speed travel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKYkMRG4mj8

look at the scene at 1:23 into the video. It shows that the Hulk can react to speedsters.

Originally posted by thingy150
And you cannot call someone stupid while you have been making extraordinary claims all day and not once have you provided evidence for these claims.

I told you that your scans did not work over 4 times. What did you expect me to think when you kept telling me that you proved something that I did not see? Nor did you seem to understand what I was saying. it got to the point that i was unsure if i was speaking plain English, or had to switch to French in order for you to understand me.

Are you seriously still using sentry who is not as fast as black adam and he did not even fight to the best of his ability during wwh.

okay now i know you are trolling.

Originally posted by thingy150
Of course, you came here and you made a bunch of claims without proving them. Adam is much faster.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/27470/2003639-1689515_adam_vs_jay_garrick.jpg

Here he dodges multiple shots thrown from jay garrick before jay hits him.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/105634/3768677-black+adam+vs+jsa+3.jpg

Found this scan, he messes up power girl and then HE HITS JAY GARRICK WHO IS TRYING TO BLITZ HIM.

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i53/truestrength/black%20adam/BlackAdamvsSuperman3.jpg

adam has been able to fight superman and handle his combat speed/strength

adam is too fast for the hulk, you cannot prove that hulk can touch him because hulk does not have any reaction time/speed scans near adam.

a few of the feats that mattered are right here.

Sentry does not have the reaction time Black adam does.

Originally posted by thingy150
Are you seriously still using sentry who is not as fast as black adam and he did not even fight to the best of his ability during wwh.

okay now i know you are trolling.

No we are debating the Green Scar, and I am showing you that he was able to hit a legit light speeder. You simply don't want to concede to the point that he would hit BA based on his ability to hit someone just as fast as BA.

Originally posted by thingy150
Sentry does not have the reaction time Black adam does.

The Sentry does have great reaction times, you just don't know much about him, so you make pointless claims to BS like you are familiar with him.

Originally posted by Stoic
No we are debating the Green Scar, and I am showing you that he was able to hit a legit light speeder. You simply don't want to concede to the point that he would hit BA based on his ability to hit someone just as fast as BA.

LOL where does it state sentry is going light speed, even if it does sentry did not even come close to fighting to the best of his ability while fighting hulk(he forgot his speed).

Speed and reaction time are two different things. sentry does not have the reaction time that black adam does therefore he did not have the time to get out of the way(but black adam will)

If you want to say that hulk can hit sentry so his reaction time is as fast as BA

how about hulk being to slow to hit she hulk
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/119238/3469510-7011926106-WWH2-.jpg

Black adam has far better feats that i have already posted.

Originally posted by Stoic
The Sentry does have great reaction times, you just don't know much about him, so you make pointless claims to BS like you are familiar with him.

LOL again it is just you making claims and saying i dont know things, you did the same thing in the hulk vs orion thread, you ran away.

I have to go because i have a test tomorrow, see ya later.

Damn hulk is so slow he cant tag she hulk

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/119238/3469510-7011926106-WWH2-.jpg

Originally posted by thingy150
LOL where does it state sentry is going light speed, even if it does sentry did not even come close to fighting to the best of his ability while fighting hulk(he forgot his speed).

Speed and reaction time are two different things. sentry does not have the reaction time that black adam does therefore he did not have the time to get out of the way(but black adam will)

If you want to say that hulk can hit sentry so his reaction time is as fast as BA

how about hulk being to slow to hit she hulk
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/119238/3469510-7011926106-WWH2-.jpg

Black adam has far better feats that i have already posted.

LOL where does it state that the Flash or Jay were moving at light speed? There was actual context to that scene with the She Hulk. He also one shot trashed her. But there you are again going off topic, and posting things that are irrelevant to the debate.

No i posted wwh not being able to touch she hulk, that is very relevant, also i never said jay was going light speed go back and look at all of my scans please.

You are the one who claimed that sentry was going light speed so what are you b*tching about......

Originally posted by thingy150
No i posted wwh not being able to touch she hulk, that is very relevant, also i never said jay was going light speed go back and look at all of my scans please.

Context. you left out the circumstances of his cousin trying to reason with him. Nice try though. Also She Hulk has nothing to do with anything. The Hulk still tagged a legit speedster. Deal with that, or remain still.

Originally posted by thingy150
You are the one who claimed that sentry was going light speed so what are you b*tching about......

No you asked me to prove something, and I asked you to prove the same thing. You can't.

Originally posted by Stoic
Context. you left out the circumstances of his cousin trying to reason with him. Nice try though. Also She Hulk has nothing to do with anything. The Hulk still tagged a legit speedster. Deal with that, or remain still.

Sentry's reaction time is nowhere near black adam, i have shown this and you have not proven otherwise.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/27470/2003639-1689515_adam_vs_jay_garrick.jpg

This

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/105634/3768677-black+adam+vs+jsa+3.jpg

and this, show that black adam has reaction time to keep up with jay garrick, you have yet to show any impressive reaction time for hulk or sentry.

My scans>slow she hulk being able to dodge hulk.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/119238/3469510-7011926106-WWH2-.jpg

Originally posted by Stoic
No you asked me to prove something, and I asked you to prove the same thing. You can't.

I never said that jay was going light speed but you claimed sentry was. good job dumbass you just made yourself look dumber than you already have.

Originally posted by thingy150
Sentry's reaction time is nowhere near black adam, i have shown this and you have not proven otherwise.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/27470/2003639-1689515_adam_vs_jay_garrick.jpg

This

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/105634/3768677-black+adam+vs+jsa+3.jpg

and this, show that black adam has reaction time to keep up with jay garrick, you have yet to show any impressive reaction time for hulk or sentry.

My scans>slow she hulk being able to dodge hulk.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/119238/3469510-7011926106-WWH2-.jpg

What does Jay moving at an unconfirmed rate of speed have to do with the Sentry not being able to do the same thing. Fact. Jay wouldn't even be able to move the Sentry if he did not want to be moved, and that is based on a true Herald being made to look like a weakling in comparison to Bob. Bob would also maul the hell out of BA. But again we are getting away from the point.

The Hulk was able to react to a legit speedster. This is not about Bob's reactions, but instead we are debating the Hulk's reactions. Please try to pay attention.

Originally posted by Stoic
What does Jay moving at an unconfirmed rate of speed have to do with the Sentry not being able to do the same thing. Fact. Jay wouldn't even be able to move the Sentry if he did not want to be moved, and that is based on a true Herald being made to look like a weakling in comparison to Bob. Bob would also maul the hell out of BA. But again we are getting away from the point.

The Hulk was able to react to a legit speedster. This is not about Bob's reactions, but instead we are debating the Hulk's reactions. Please try to pay attention.

The speed of jay is not the important part it is his reaction time and general speed that make adam being able to touch him impressive. Why do you keep calling bob a legit speedster? Why does that further your argument. He may have touched bob in a PIS filled fight but he could not touch She hulk. Bob would not maul the hell out of BA, are you talking about the bob that fought wwh? Sentry did not even come close to using his powers in that fight(pis).

wwhulk got held back by warpath lol, he is not going to beat adam.

YOU CANT JUST SAY THAT JAY WAS MOVING AT A UNSPECIFIED RATE AND THEN TURN AROUND AND USE SENTRY WHOSE SPEED WAS ALSO NOT SPECIFIED.

Sentry does not have reaction time like jay, therefore black adam being able to touch him is more impressive considering neither jay nor sentry's speeds were stated.

I have to go now, its late and i have a test tomorrow, i should already be asleep.

LOL IM DONE, NOW YOU ARE ARGUING SENTRY IS BETTER THAN THE FLASH. SENTRY REACTION TIME IS< THAN JAYS

stoic the way you debate is hilarious, you make so many claims yet you never seem to back them up. Looking at your posts makes me LOL so hard.

Originally posted by thingy150
The speed of jay is not the important part it is his reaction time and general speed that make adam being able to touch him impressive. Why do you keep calling bob a legit speedster? Why does that further your argument. He may have touched bob in a PIS filled fight but he could not touch She hulk. Bob would not maul the hell out of BA, are you talking about the bob that fought wwh? Sentry did not even come close to using his powers in that fight(pis).

wwhulk got held back by warpath lol, he is not going to beat adam.

YOU CANT JUST SAY THAT JAY WAS MOVING AT A UNSPECIFIED RATE AND THEN TURN AROUND AND USE SENTRY WHOSE SPEED WAS ALSO NOT SPECIFIED.

Sentry does not have reaction time like jay, therefore black adam being able to touch him is more impressive considering neither jay nor sentry's speeds were stated.

I have to go now, its late and i have a test tomorrow, i should already be asleep.

Why? if I have to explain why, it's obvious that you have not been paying attention youngster. Should i break it down for you again?

1. The Hulk was able to tag a legit speedster in the form of Robert Reynolds (The Sentry).

2. This proves that he would also be able to hit BA, who is also a legit speedster.

3. This is not about Robert Reynold's reaction times, but about how the Hulk was able to react to his legit speed.

4. Please pay attention, and stop deviating from the topic.

5. BA does not have the raw power to take the Green Scar.

6. BA would need help, because he is not on the Green Scars level. The Green Scar held back the entire time during WW Hulk.

Originally posted by Stoic
Why? if I have to explain why, it's obvious that you have not been paying attention youngster. Should i break it down for you again?

1. The Hulk was able to tag a legit speedster in the form of Robert Reynolds (The Sentry).

2. This proves that he would also be able to hit BA, who is also a legit speedster.

3. This is not about Robert Reynold's reaction times, but about how the Hulk was able to react to his legit speed.

4. Please pay attention, and stop deviating from the topic.

5. BA does not have the raw power to take the Green Scar.

6. BA would need help, because he is not on the Green Scars level. The Green Scar held back the entire time during WW Hulk.


BLACK ADAMS REACTION TIME IS WHY HE WOULD NOT GET HIT BY HULK, SENTRY DOES NOT HAVE THE COMBAT SPEED BLACK ADAM DOES AND THAT IS WHY HULK WAS ABLE TO HIT HIM.

black adam is not on hulks level, he is far above it.

What do you not understand about it not being impressive that hulk hit a guy who does not have good reaction speed.

You have still yet to post scans and ALSO IT WAS NEVER STATED WHAT SPEED SENTRY WAS GOING TO THAT DESTROYS YOUR ARGUMENT BECAUSE YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT RELIES ON THE FACT THAT SENTRY COULD BE GOING FAST.

BLACK ADAM HAS BETTER REACTION TIME HE HAS A MOBILITY ADVANTAGE AND HE CAN HIT HULK WITH MAGIC(which according to carver the self proclaimed hulk expert is true) IF WORST COMES TO WORST AND HULK IS WINNING ADAM CAN ALWAYS BFR HIM.

ADAM HAS TOO MANY WAYS TO WIN AND HULK DOES NOT HAVE THE COMBAT SPEED TO COMPETE.

GOOD NIGHT

Originally posted by thingy150
BLACK ADAMS REACTION TIME IS WHY HE WOULD NOT GET HIT BY HULK, SENTRY DOES NOT HAVE THE COMBAT SPEED BLACK ADAM DOES AND THAT IS WHY HULK WAS ABLE TO HIT HIM.

black adam is not on hulks level, he is far above it.

What do you not understand about it not being impressive that hulk hit a guy who does not have good reaction speed.

You have still yet to post scans and ALSO IT WAS NEVER STATED WHAT SPEED SENTRY WAS GOING TO THAT DESTROYS YOUR ARGUMENT BECAUSE YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT RELIES ON THE FACT THAT SENTRY COULD BE GOING FAST.

BLACK ADAM HAS BETTER REACTION TIME HE HAS A MOBILITY ADVANTAGE AND HE CAN HIT HULK WITH MAGIC(which according to carver the self proclaimed hulk expert is true) IF WORST COMES TO WORST AND HULK IS WINNING ADAM CAN ALWAYS BFR HIM.

ADAM HAS TOO MANY WAYS TO WIN AND HULK DOES NOT HAVE THE COMBAT SPEED TO COMPETE.

GOOD NIGHT

1. You have to prove that BA would be impossible to be hit. I showed you that the Hulk is actually capable of hitting a legit super fast character that has legit super fast reactions.

2. You will have to prove that BA would not take the Hulk on land fight like he always does in character. This means that in ever single fight that he has, he goes in for the brawl. BA is basically a flying brick that sometimes uses AOE attack in the form of magical lightning. He also employs speed.

3. BA does not manipulate reality. BA does not manipulate matter on the level of the Molecule Man. We know that he is an in fighter. If you deny this, or attempt to ignore it you are basically conceding. In other words cut the BS, and debate BA in character, and stop grasping at how the hulk would be unable to hit him. The reason why this is the only argument that you can come up with, is because you know that BA would lose this battle, and can't find an argument that would grant him the win based on how he actually fights in character.

Adam.

Has BA dodged a punch ever? I can't really think of him ever sticking and moving.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Has BA dodged a punch ever? I can't really think of him ever sticking and moving.

I already put scans up of him dodging punches from jay garric, stoic is still trying to argue that hulk is as fast as adam with sentry scans and adam has much faster reaction time along with the fact that she hulk could slip his puches, black adam wins.

Originally posted by thingy150
Of course, you came here and you made a bunch of claims without proving them. Adam is much faster.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/27470/2003639-1689515_adam_vs_jay_garrick.jpg

Here he dodges multiple shots thrown from jay garrick before jay hits him.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/105634/3768677-black+adam+vs+jsa+3.jpg

Found this scan, he messes up power girl and then HE HITS JAY GARRICK WHO IS TRYING TO BLITZ HIM.

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i53/truestrength/black%20adam/BlackAdamvsSuperman3.jpg

adam has been able to fight superman and handle his combat speed/strength

adam is too fast for the hulk, you cannot prove that hulk can touch him because hulk does not have any reaction time/speed scans near adam.

Where the hell is he dodging Jay, the slowest of the Flashes???

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Where the hell is he dodging Jay, the slowest of the Flashes???


It is in the 3rd panel where they both are trying to hit each other and nothing connects but jay eventually hits him.

Jay has much faster reaction time then sentry and hulk.

Black adam has this fight.

Lol, no, he didn't dodge any of Jay's punches. If he did, it would be 1 or 2. No more.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol, no, he didn't dodge any of Jay's punches. If he did, it would be 1 or 2. No more.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/27470/2003639-1689515_adam_vs_jay_garrick.jpg

It was two punches, adam also hit him in a different scan(already posted) where jay was blitzing and serious. Being able to hit someone with the speed AND REACTION TIME of jay is ridiculous, adam is faster than hulk.

Originally posted by thingy150
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/27470/2003639-1689515_adam_vs_jay_garrick.jpg

It was two punches, adam also hit him in a different scan(already posted) where jay was blitzing and serious. Being able to hit someone with the speed AND REACTION TIME of jay is ridiculous, adam is faster.

Ok, let's break your post down into chunks:

Originally posted by thingy150
Of course, you came here and you made a bunch of claims without proving them. Adam is much faster.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/27470/2003639-1689515_adam_vs_jay_garrick.jpg

Here he dodges multiple shots thrown from jay garrick before jay hits him.

WRONG. In the 3rd panel, Jay's fist connects with his chin in two of the three punches shown. You can possibly say he dodges ONE punch in that scan, and that's being generous.


Jay is Mach 1 level - which....isn't that fast. Moreover, your scan actually shows Jay SUCCESSFULLY blitzing him, it's just that BA is tough enough to tank them all and then punch him back.



Proof that Superman was going all out in that scan? As you well know, I'm sure, Superman always holds back for the safety of civilians. In fact, his concern for the safety of the city can be seen in that very same scan you post.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ok, let's break your post down into chunks:



WRONG. In the 3rd panel, Jay's fist connects with his chin in two of the three punches shown. You can possibly say he dodges ONE punch in that scan, and that's being generous.


Jay is Mach 1 level - which....isn't that fast. Moreover, your scan actually shows Jay SUCCESSFULLY blitzing him, it's just that BA is tough enough to tank them all and then punch him back.



Proof that Superman was going all out in that scan? As you well know, I'm sure, Superman always holds back for the safety of civilians. In fact, his concern for the safety of the city can be seen in that very same scan you post.

Are you joking? Did you just say jay was mach 1....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA, you are that uneducated on jay garrick.


Yup i am not going to argue with you anymore you clearly do not know anything about adam or his speed which i am showing with these jay garrick scans.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114115/2998496-jay+vs+black+adam+race+2.jpg

Here is jay and black adam racing, it says adam starts to slow down at MACH 500+....nice try on mach 1

You are hilarious.

Yeah, he lost the Speedforce connection, you know that right?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah, he lost the Speedforce connection, you know that right?



What does that have to do with my scan where he is going mach 500+

cool story

He has the speed force in my scans...

Originally posted by thingy150
What does that have to do with my scan where he is going mach 500+

cool story

Is he going Mach 500 in the scan where he is blitzing Adam, and treating him like his b!tch? And if so, how did you arrive at this conclusion?

Or was he going at MAch 400?

100?

50?

And I see you didn't post the next scan:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/103530/2836891-2.png

Where your point is all moot, as BA CANNOT react to Jay. So I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here hehe.
BA is durable enough to tank JAy's punches. No doubt. But he is not fast enough to dodge and slip and avoid the vast majority of Jay's punches.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Is he going Mach 500 in the scan where he is blitzing Adam, and treating him like his b!tch? And if so, how did you arrive at this conclusion?

Or was he going at MAch 400?

100?

50?

And I see you didn't post the next scan:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/103530/2836891-2.png

Where your point is all moot, as BA CANNOT react to Jay. So I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here hehe.


No he has reaction time superior to that of hulk that is what the scan proves that adam has reaction time to compete with jay garrick

try again

Originally posted by thingy150
No he has reaction time superior to that of hulk that is what the scan proves that adam has reaction time to compete with jay garrick

try again

How is he competing? JAy is landing so many free shots on BA - Eight alone in that first panel of the scan I posted, five in the scan you posted.

He's competing not on speed, by matching Jay, but by being a tough SOB who can take what Jay can dish out. That's all. Not by matching him in speed, lol.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Is he going Mach 500 in the scan where he is blitzing Adam, and treating him like his b!tch? And if so, how did you arrive at this conclusion?

Or was he going at MAch 400?

100?

50?

And I see you didn't post the next scan:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/103530/2836891-2.png

Where your point is all moot, as BA CANNOT react to Jay. So I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here hehe.
BA is durable enough to tank JAy's punches. No doubt. But he is not fast enough to dodge and slip and avoid the vast majority of Jay's punches.

Lol...the ownage is so bad.

Lol black adam has reacted to jay on multiple occasions and reacted to superman.

Did you add that scan after because i did not see it when i replied.

Originally posted by thingy150
Lol black adam has reacted to jay on multiple occasions and reacted to superman.

Did you add that scan after because i did not see it when i replied.

You quoted me your post has my scan in it....

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/105634/3768677-black+adam+vs+jsa+3.jpg

HERE HE HITS A SPEED BLITZING JAY GARRICK, THIS SHOWS HE HAS REACTION TIME GREATER THAN THE HULK AND YOU HAVE YET TO PROVE OTHERWISE.

He was able to hit jay garrick whos reaction time is far greater than hulk and sentry combined.

HE ALSO IN THAT SCAN PUNKS POWERGIRL.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTp8Qge8wam-RV10pyVbrfmj6XU3iTPS4iKBosYri0J7BeA5gTE8zRq_gI

HULKS PUNCHES HAVE BEEN DODGED BY SHE HULK, HE WILL NOT HIT BLACK ADAM.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You quoted me your post has my scan in it....

What do you think about his comment on Adam reacting to Superman?

Originally posted by thingy150
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/105634/3768677-black+adam+vs+jsa+3.jpg

HERE HE HITS A SPEED BLITZING JAY GARRICK, THIS SHOWS HE HAS REACTION TIME GREATER THAN THE HULK AND YOU HAVE YET TO PROVE OTHERWISE.

He was able to hit jay garrick whos reaction time is far greater than hulk and sentry combined.

HE ALSO IN THAT SCAN PUNKS POWERGIRL.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTp8Qge8wam-RV10pyVbrfmj6XU3iTPS4iKBosYri0J7BeA5gTE8zRq_gI

HULKS PUNCHES HAVE BEEN DODGED BY SHE HULK, HE WILL NOT HIT BLACK ADAM.

Lol. So Jay lands 5 punches, BA lands 1, and this is....proof?

It shows he's slower than Jay, nothing more.

If I got into a fight, and the other guy landed 5 punches on me and I landed one...then over the course of the fight, he lands 10, and I land 2 - that's me keeping up with him??? You haven't been in many fights before lol.

He got lucky/Jay got predictable. It always happens with the Flashes.

Has anyone showed him the scans of Hulk pimp slapping Quicksilver?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/80103/2057551-1678238_hulk_vs_qs_super.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You quoted me your post has my scan in it....

You either added it last minute or i just did not see it, also i have multiple scans up of him being near jays level, he dodged jay twice in this scan:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/27470/2003639-1689515_adam_vs_jay_garrick.jpg

They both dodge each other twice in the last panel before jay hits adam.

I also just posted the scan of him being able to hit a speed blitzing fully aware jay along with him punking powergirl.

Adam was so fast that jay was not able to move before he hit him and jay's reaction time is ridiculous.

BLACK ADAM COULD EASILY GO MACH 500+ AND USE HIS SUPERIOR REACTION TIME TO BFR HULK.

@ carver, this was my response

Proof that Superman was going all out in that scan? As you well know, I'm sure, Superman always holds back for the safety of civilians. In fact, his concern for the safety of the city can be seen in that very same scan you post.

Originally posted by carver9
Has anyone showed him the scans of Hulk pimp slapping Quicksilver?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/80103/2057551-1678238_hulk_vs_qs_super.jpg

Quicksilver is a dumba$$ and his reaction time is not impressive, at the time he was only able to go a few hundred MPH

Originally posted by thingy150
You either added it last minute or i just did not see it, also i have multiple scans up of him being near jays level, he dodged jay twice in this scan:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/27470/2003639-1689515_adam_vs_jay_garrick.jpg

They both dodge each other twice in the last panel before jay hits adam.

I also just posted the scan of him being able to hit a speed blitzing fully aware jay along with him punking powergirl.

Adam was so fast that jay was not able to move before he hit him and jay's reaction time is ridiculous.

BLACK ADAM COULD EASILY GO MACH 500+ AND USE HIS SUPERIOR REACTION TIME TO BFR HULK.

He dodged him once, POSSIBLY, in the last panel. What you THINK is the first dodge, you can see Jay's fist connect with his chin, and moving his head with the force of the punch - unless you think people run with their head crooked like that?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
@ carver, this was my response

Proof that Superman was going all out in that scan? As you well know, I'm sure, Superman always holds back for the safety of civilians. In fact, his concern for the safety of the city can be seen in that very same scan you post.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He dodged him once, POSSIBLY, in the last panel. What you THINK is the first dodge, you can see Jay's fist connect with his chin, and moving his head with the force of the punch - unless you think people run with their head crooked like that?


You are correct but it still show he can compete, also there are the other scans.


Hulk would not be able to keep up with jay, adam has better reaction time and speed then hulk.

Originally posted by carver9


Actually SUPERMAN GOT REALLY PISSED BECAUSE ADAM HIT A CIVILIAN. AFTER THAT SUPERMAN WAS PRETTY SERIOUS BUT HIM AND ADAM MATCHED SPEED AND STRENGTH.

How fast Quicksilver is...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/146753/2787230-1608652_thor_vs_quicksilver_01_super.jpg

I've been out racing lightning bolts since puberty.

Uhm that scan does not work 1st of all and at the time quicksilver was stated to only be able to go a few hundred mph

Adam took on POWERGIRL, alan scott, HAWKMAN, mr terrific, wild cat, dr mid night, JAY GARRICK, HAWKGIRL and DOCTOR FATE all at the same time, he even hits a speed blitzing jay garrick.

I uploaded the scans of this fight but they did not work, i stated the source on a previous page tho, Adam took on the entire JLA.

I have to go to class i will respond later.

Actually you're wrong in the 2nd scan Carver posted (which you didn't see, and so, really shouldn't comment). By that time, quicksilver was faster than light.

Also, Hulk beats the slob out of Gladiator and Gladiator has FTL speed fts and nano seconds reaction.

http://www.incrediblehulkonline.com/gladiatorstrength.jpg

Hulk blitz Jack of Hearts and surprise him with his speed (nothing moves that fast) and Jack of Hearts has flown through space at FTL speeds and has blitzed some of the most powerful beings and fought alongside some of the fastest beings in Marvel.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/149643/2950938-savagehulkagility2-1.jpg

Lol using the gladiator scans, that was one of the worst written things i have ever seen and they did not even get glads weakness correct in the book.

YOU SKIPPED THE PART WHERE GLADIATOR LET HULK GRAB HIM, HE WAS STANDING COMPLETELY STILL.

Again carver you take scans out of context, you and the way you try and debate is/are pathetic.

LOL and then you use jack of hearts and say his flight speed, quit embarrassing yourself.

Originally posted by carver9
How fast Quicksilver is...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/146753/2787230-1608652_thor_vs_quicksilver_01_super.jpg

I've been out racing lightning bolts since puberty.


ARE YOU JOKING, AT THE TIME WHEN HULK HIT HIM QUICKSILVER HAD BEEN STATED AT A FEW HUNDRED MPH, IT DOES NOT MATTER IN THIS SCAN THAT IT STATED THIS BECAUSE WHEN HE AND HULK FOUGHT THAT WAS NOT THE CASE.

TRY HARDER YOU DUMB FANBOY.

Seems like Superman let Black Adam punch him. Seem like Power girl let Black Adam punch him. Seems like Jay let BA punch him. Black Adam wasn't going Mach 500.