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Jasper's was uber, but EB was basically supreme being wasn't she ?

Regular Elaine gets stomped.

Elaine w/ Michael's power, wins.

Elaine w/ Yahweh's power, stomps.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
EB was basically supreme being wasn't she ?
Which wasn't that impressive. At all.

MJJ ftw.

Originally posted by operator616
Regular Elaine gets stomped.

Elaine w/ Michael's power, wins.

Elaine w/ Yahweh's power, stomps.

What's the difference?

Originally posted by zopzop
Which wasn't that impressive. At all.

MJJ ftw.

Not impressive at all? What the hell are you talking about?

So MJJ is going to win against a supreme-level being?

Originally posted by Golgo13
What's the difference?

Be more specific. Whats the difference between what?

Originally posted by operator616
Not impressive at all? What the hell are you talking about?

So MJJ is going to win against a supreme-level being?



Be more specific. Whats the difference between what?

The difference between Michael's power and Yahweh's power. Weren't they one and the same?

Originally posted by Golgo13
The difference between Michael's power and Yahweh's power. Weren't they one and the same?

No. Just because Michael has "God's power" doesn't mean he's got the full power of God. Otherwise, the Spectre would too. So would Lucifer, the Radiant, and the Word. Because they all have aspects of God's power.

It was even stated that Yahweh could easily erase Lucifer/Michael out of existence.

Elaine absorbed Michael's power after he died at Lucifer's hands. Then towards the end of the run, Yahweh actually gave his personal power/status to Elaine. Making Elaine the supreme being of the Vertigo-verse.

Originally posted by operator616
No. Just because Michael has "God's power" doesn't mean he's got the full power of God. Otherwise, the Spectre would too. So would Lucifer, the Radiant, and the Word. Because they all have aspects of God's power.

It was even stated that Yahweh could easily erase Lucifer/Michael out of existence.

Elaine absorbed Michael's power after he died at Lucifer's hands. Then towards the end of the run, Yahweh actually gave his personal power/status to Elaine. Making Elaine the supreme being of the Vertigo-verse.
Vertigo-Verse
So the presence is basically a 2 verse god???

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Vertigo-Verse
So the presence is basically a 2 verse god???
1 verse. They merged the three creations into one universe which Elaine then became one with.

MJJ ftw!

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Vertigo-Verse
So the presence is basically a 2 verse god???

In what the DCU and Vertigo-verse? No they are suppose to be the same. Elaine takes it.

HM........

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Vertigo-Verse
So the presence is basically a 2 verse god???

I say "Vertigo-verse" because the Lucifer series treated Vertigo-verse separate from mainstream DC.

Its contradictory really. We have accounts that confirm Vertigo being in the same verse as mainstream DC (for example, mainstream DC characters appearing Sandman v2 which takes place in the same universe as Lucifer) but if we look at the bigger picture, i think it's best to dissociate them. Elaine became God at the end of the Lucifer series (in 2006); and the Lucifer run had no effect whatsoever on mainstream DC. If mainstream DC (in this case, Yahweh's creation) was really merged with Lucifer's multiverse and Elaine's then the effects would be similar to what happened in Flashpoint (where mainstream DC was merged with Vertigo and Wildstorm - Wildstorm being another separate continuity/multiverse). Yet absolutely nothing happened.

Originally posted by operator616
I say "Vertigo-verse" because the Lucifer series treated Vertigo-verse separate from mainstream DC.

Its contradictory really. We have accounts that confirm Vertigo being in the same verse as mainstream DC (for example, mainstream DC characters appearing Sandman v2 which takes place in the same universe as Lucifer) but if we look at the bigger picture, i think it's best to dissociate them. Elaine became God at the end of the Lucifer series (in 2006); and the Lucifer run had no effect whatsoever on mainstream DC. If mainstream DC (in this case, Yahweh's creation) was really merged with Lucifer's multiverse and Elaine's then the effects would be similar to what happened in Flashpoint (where mainstream DC was merged with Vertigo and Wildstorm - Wildstorm being another separate continuity/multiverse). Yet absolutely nothing happened.

Late question, but didn't John Constantine make a cameo in Lucifer series by Mike Carrey? IIRC, he was at a bar in the background or something.

Elaine had some trouble with relativity of time when she was trying to get a hold of her powers.

MJJ had some pretty solid time-manipulation feats, where he compressed years worth of time into a few days/messed with the people of britain's perception of time.

Originally posted by Zack M
Late question, but didn't John Constantine make a cameo in Lucifer series by Mike Carrey? IIRC, he was at a bar in the background or something.

Yes, at the beginning of the series.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Elaine had some trouble with relativity of time when she was trying to get a hold of her powers.

MJJ had some pretty solid time-manipulation feats, where he compressed years worth of time into a few days/messed with the people of britain's perception of time.

When she was getting accustomed to Michael's powers? she admitted later on that she has gotten used to the power and is under her control. And after that Yahweh ascended her into the supreme being position.

Elaine.

This is a non-battle.

Originally posted by operator616

And after that Yahweh ascended her into the supreme being position.
... off-topic inquiry: Does she beat Mxy?

Well, we know that the destruction of a universe was not enough to contain MJJ.

Originally posted by Mr Master
... off-topic inquiry: Does she beat Mxy?

By virtue of being God, yes, she would.

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Later on, Elaine clarifies that she's not REALLY omniscient...

She's nigh-omniscient:
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