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BATMAN the Unbeatable has obtained the unparalled might of Vampirism, is Dual Weilding Primary Adamantium Katana's, has all his standard gear, and is BLOOD LUSTED...

BATMAN the Unbeatable then goes on to take on Adam Warlock in a battle to the Death or KO with no BFR allowed...

Fight takes place in the Dead of Night in an ancient, abandoned, villiage in Transylvania...

BATMAN the Unbeatable has a Vampiric Robin on standby as well an army of bats, rats, and wolves that he can call to his aid if need be...

Warlock has the Soul Gem...

Who wins?

Adam would destroy Batman even with the powers, and sword.

Originally posted by Stoic
Adam would destroy Batman even with the powers, and sword.
This.

People don't realize it but Adam is a male version of Kismet/Her (unless this has been retconned). Hence he's, at least, a low herald level being with a variety of cosmic powers at his disposal.

Now add in the Soul Gem..........

Adam wins every single time.

Adam wins.

Yeah, but imagine if Warlock tried to use the Soul Gem...

Vampires have no soul!!!

Batman will take the opportunity to bite him!!!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah, but imagine if Warlock tried to use the Soul Gem...

Vampires have no soul!!!

Batman will take the opportunity to bite him!!!

This a distinct possibility...

IOW, you admit that Batman likes sucking fluid from men.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah, but imagine if Warlock tried to use the Soul Gem...

Vampires have no soul!!!

Batman will take the opportunity to bite him!!!

You have to go back, and see how classic Warlock fights. He's there, and gone before your very eyes. The Soul gem doesn't just suck souls out of the victim, it can also release karmic blasts, not to mention that Warlock has cosmic powers.

As for what the Gem can do

The Soul Gem is sentient; it has a desire to collect souls
The gem can attack another's soul in various ways
The gem can reveal information by peering into another's soul or using the 'Cold Light of Truth'
The gem can trap souls inside itself in an idyllic world.
The gem's wielder can access the memories and skills of those imprisoned within Soul World
The gem can revert beings to their natural state.
The gem protects its wielder from soul-based attacks.
The gem can disrupt the anima of a soul with a karmic blast rendering the target temporarily unconscious. Certain beings are immune to this attack.

Recent notable abilities

Spell-Crafting: Adam Warlock has the ability to crafts "spells" with his "Quantum Magic" for a variety of desired effects. With this ability he has deleted a Witch Mark from his body cased by Magique in which was known to be impossible to do In conjunction with his Energy Manipulation, Adam used this ability to create large explosions and merge timelines. Although the total capabilities of this power is unknown, he does require adequate power depending on how grand of a feat he wishes to perform.

Soul Manipulation: Adam has the ability to manipulate souls. He seems to still retain this ability, despite having this ability before the events of Annihilation. This may be because this power was gained from the use of the Soul Gem over the years. He was able to reforge Phyla-Vell's sword with the billions of Kree souls around him.

Energy Manipulation: Adam has been seen able to manipulate his Quantum Magic to generate force fields in which could withstand the explosion of a star and produce concussive energy blasts which were powerful enough to dent even Ultron in his giant form during the events of Annihilation. Powered by the Universal Church of Truth's faith, Adam Warlock manipulated the power of Terrigen Bomb that was powerful enough to destroy the whole reality and merged 2 timelines.

Matter Manipulation: This is another power Adam seem to retain under his Quantum Magic from since his rebirth. Adam transmuted the mineral content of a planetoid in the Disradi System into an unknown ultra transition metal that didn't exist. Prior to his rebirth in Annihilation, Adam has been seen able to turn hounds into humans, transmuting bullets into water, transmuting parachutes into air, and shrinking monsters with the use of the Soul Gem. He's even been able to turn Thanos into stone without the actual Soul Gem.

Energy Construct: Although seldom used, Adam has ability to construct something out of Quantum Energy such as a sword or a piece of armor.

*Note*
To keep from over-hyping Warlock, and making him seem greater than he actually is, it takes concentration to pull off some of his power stunts. So this must also be taken into account when arguing what he could actually do in the heat of battle.

Originally posted by zopzop
This.

People don't realize it but Adam is a male version of Kismet/Her (unless this has been retconned). Hence he's, at least, a low herald level being with a variety of cosmic powers at his disposal.

Now add in the Soul Gem..........

Adam wins every single time.

Didn't Maxam take out Warlock?

Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, you admit that Batman likes sucking fluid from men.

Pervert!!

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Pervert!!



You're the one that gave Batman a power that would allow him suck men dry.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Didn't Maxam take out Warlock?

Currently, Warlock is a lot more powerful than he was back in those days. He uses Quantum Magic these days. His weakness is that he has to amplify his physical stats like always. This takes concentration. Not long, but it does take him time. Then again he can fly, which in some cases would give him all of the time needed.

Originally posted by Stoic
Currently, Warlock is a lot more powerful than he was back in those days. He uses Quantum Magic these days. His weakness is that he has to amplify his physical stats like always. This takes concentration. Not long, but it does take him time. Then again he can fly, which in some cases would give him all of the time needed.

BATMAN can fly as well in this senario...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
BATMAN can fly as well in this senario...

Warlock can create impenetrable force fields, or ones capable of withstanding stars exploding. I really don't think that they are in the same ballpark in terms of power. I only touched on a few of Adam's abilities, he can also teleport, but I don't think that this is necessary to come to the realization that Adam is simply on another level than even Dracula who was the strongest of the Vampires (7 ton range).

Batman speed blitzes adam, bats takes solid 8-9/10 majority against Adam.

Adam destroys him

Originally posted by Board Walker
Batman speed blitzes adam, bats takes solid 8-9/10 majority against Adam.

Okay so you're clearly trolling now.

Batman wins 8-9/10. BW is right, that's not trolling it is a simple truth.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Batman wins 8-9/10. BW is right, that's not trolling it is a simple truth.

Warlock could transmute him to the size of a mouse though. How does Batman win even 1/10?

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
BW is right

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Originally posted by Stoic
Warlock could transmute him to the size of a mouse though. How does Batman win even 1/10?

Batman goes into Mist Form then reverts back into his normal form...

All Vampires can negate status effects/damage like this..

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Batman goes into Mist Form then reverts back into his normal form...

All Vampires can negate status effects/damage like this..

What evidence is there for Vampires being able to negate physical transmutation? Aside from you saying so of course?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Batman goes into Mist Form then reverts back into his normal form...

All Vampires can negate status effects/damage like this..

That's not quite how it works with newbie vampires. Only Dracula, and other ancient vampires were able to do the things that you think that Batman would be capable of pulling off here. he would gain all of their weaknesses, and gain their strengths. The more exotic powers like flight do not apply to new vamps. You really can't just give him powers that are out of line with how things actually work in the comics.

Originally posted by KingD19
What evidence is there for Vampires being able to negate physical transmutation?

What evidence is there that:

1) transmutation will even work on Vampires?
2) that transmutation blocks a vampire from assuming Mist Form?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
What evidence is there that:

1) transmutation will even work on Vampires?
2) that transmutation blocks a vampire from assuming Mist Form?

Batman would not be able to use these powers. Only Lord of Earth Vampires, and some ancient vampires could actually pull those exotics off. He would be transmuted, his swords would be turned to water, and he would lose.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
What evidence is there that:

1) transmutation will even work on Vampires?
2) that a trsdmutation blocks a vanpire from assuming Mist Form?

1. I've never seen a vampire be transmuted or resist being transmuted. And if high end mystical beings like Juggernaut can be transmuted, then until I see a feat of resistance or outright negation, Vampires can be transmuted.

2. I never said being transmuted would stop them from turning into mist, as many people who get size changed or morphed retain their powers. But turning into mist won't suddenly make him go back to normal.

Vampire Batman versus someone who one-shotted Ikon, Quasar and Silver Surfer in his last appearance???

Originally posted by Stoic
That's not quite how it works with newbie vampires. Only Dracula, and other ancient vampires were able to do the things that you think that Batman would be capable of pulling off here. he would gain all of their weaknesses, and gain their strengths. The more exotic powers like flight do not apply to new vamps. You really can't just give him powers that are out of line with how things actually work in the comics.

Fledgling Vampires can fly and assume Mist Form...

Originally posted by KingD19
What evidence is there for Vampires being able to negate physical transmutation? Aside from you saying so of course?

He has no proof, he is just making things up.

Originally posted by ODG
Vampire Batman versus someone who one-shotted Ikon, Quasar and Silver Surfer in his last appearance???

Yep....

Different opponent, different power set...

There is a real possibility that Warlock falls to the gaze attack...

I am betting that Batmans willpower is superior to Warlocks...

Originally posted by Stoic
Warlock could transmute him to the size of a mouse though. How does Batman win even 1/10?

Batman as a vampire could mist form at speeds beyond Adam's perception, Adam wont be able to transmute anything.

Vampires have mastery of their own being, they could counter transmute anything imposed on them

Vampires are souless, soul gem is for the most part aside from weak energy output useless in this matchup.

Human batman has already been proven by on panel evidence to be multiples of FTL speed, vampiric form only amplifies this directly and indirectly.

As stated before and endorsed by other posters in this thread, Batman speed blitzes at speeds beyond Adam's compregension.

Batman transmutes into a wave of mist, accelerates to 9.8 million feet per second ( as proven with on panel evidence in the other thread), flys at Warlock. The speeds and momentum of batmans movement superheat the molecular state of their surroundings and creates a vortex of hyper heated plasmic reality. Batman right before impact turns into a stone statue, and impacts into Adam with raw kinetic force moving at 9.8 million feet per second, and a reality of hyper heated plasma.

Batman stomps 10/10.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Batman as a vampire could mist form at speeds beyond Adam's perception, Adam wont be able to transmute anything.

Vampires have mastery of their own being, they could counter transmute anything imposed on them

Vampires are souless, soul gem is for the most part aside from weak emery output is useless in this matchup.

Human batman has already been proven by on panle evidence to be multiples of FTL speed, vampiric form only amplifies this directly and indirectly.

As stated before and endorsed by other posters in this thread, Batman speed blitzes at speeds beyond Adam's compregension.

Batman transmutes into a wave of mist, accelerates to 9.8 million feet per second ( as proven with on panel evidence in the other thread), flys at Warlock. The speeds and momentum of batmans movement superheat the molecular state of their surroundings and creates a vortex of hypee heated plasmic reality. Batman right before impact turns into a stone statue, and impacts into Adam with raw kineti force moving at 9.8 million feet per second, and a reality of hyper heated plasma.

Batman stomps 10/10.

Is this the first Board Walker "Complete Bullshit" post of 2015? Starting the year off right I see.

Originally posted by KingD19
1. I've never seen a vampire be transmuted or resist being transmuted. And if high end mystical beings like Juggernaut can be transmuted, then until I see a feat of resistance or outright negation, Vampires can be transmuted.

2. I never said being transmuted would stop them from turning into mist, as many people who get size changed or morphed retain thejir powers. But turning into mist won't suddenly make him go back to normal.

Great so you have never seen a vampire transmuted and have no evidence that they can be...

As for Mist Form, we know for sure that Vamps in mist form can recondense into humanoid form at will, so even if transmutation works on him, he can turn back to normal in 2 simple steps...

Originally posted by KingD19
Is this the first Board Walker "Complete Bullshit" post of 2015? Starting the year off right I see.

you call it BS because you do not agree nor understand the complexities of its truths.

Many posters in this thread do understand and they are in agreeance- with the perception I hold. Learn to differentiate between the perception of another and your own, so you wont call it BS.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Batman as a vampire could mist form at speeds beyond Adam's perception, Adam wont be able to transmute anything.

Vampires have mastery of their own being, they could counter transmute anything imposed on them

Vampires are souless, soul gem is for the most part aside from weak energy output useless in this matchup.

Human batman has already been proven by on panel evidence to be multiples of FTL speed, vampiric form only amplifies this directly and indirectly.

As stated before and endorsed by other posters in this thread, Batman speed blitzes at speeds beyond Adam's compregension.

Batman transmutes into a wave of mist, accelerates to 9.8 million feet per second ( as proven with on panel evidence in the other thread), flys at Warlock. The speeds and momentum of batmans movement superheat the molecular state of their surroundings and creates a vortex of hyper heated plasmic reality. Batman right before impact turns into a stone statue, and impacts into Adam with raw kinetic force moving at 9.8 million feet per second, and a reality of hyper heated plasma.

Batman stomps 10/10.

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/743/645/0b2

Originally posted by Board Walker
Batman as a vampire could mist form at speeds beyond Adam's perception, Adam wont be able to transmute anything.

Vampires have mastery of their own being, they could counter transmute anything imposed on them

Vampires are souless, soul gem is for the most part aside from weak energy output useless in this matchup.

Human batman has already been proven by on panel evidence to be multiples of FTL speed, vampiric form only amplifies this directly and indirectly.

As stated before and endorsed by other posters in this thread, Batman speed blitzes at speeds beyond Adam's compregension.

Batman transmutes into a wave of mist, accelerates to 9.8 million feet per second ( as proven with on panel evidence in the other thread), flys at Warlock. The speeds and momentum of batmans movement superheat the molecular state of their surroundings and creates a vortex of hyper heated plasmic reality. Batman right before impact turns into a stone statue, and impacts into Adam with raw kinetic force moving at 9.8 million feet per second, and a reality of hyper heated plasma.

Batman stomps 10/10.

Well said...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Well said...



I believe you mean, "well trolled".

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Great so you have never seen a vampire transmuted and have no evidence that they can be...

As for Mist Form, we know for sure that Vamps in mist form can recondense into humanoid form at will, so even if transmutation works on him, he can turn back to normal in 2 simple steps...

I've never seen Aunt May get shot in the face either. But that doesn't mean there's no evidence she's bulletproof. People of extremely higher magnitude than basic vampires get transmuted all the time and have no defense against it. Like Juggernaut for example. Until you show proof vamps are immune to transmutation, the chance that like pretty much everyone else can be transmuted is a lot higher than they can't. It's up to you to prove it since you're going against common sense and assuming they're immune.

On the mist form, they turn back to what they were before they became mist. If he was 5 inches tall, he'd be 5 inches tall when he turned back. There's again no evidence that he'll magically be back to normal.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I believe you mean, "well trolled".

So says the guy who was making g@y jokes about THE GODDAMNED BATMAN!!!!...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Fledgling Vampires can fly and assume Mist Form...

Nope.

A lot of this only applies to Dracula, but not newly turned vampires. This has been seen time and again during the history of the character. There are some exceptions, but typically newly turned vampires don't have the higher abilities of the ancient vampires.

Powers

Vampirism: Dracula, like all other vampires, is capable of transforming an individual into a vampire by biting them. A special enzyme found only within vampire saliva is responsible for this transformation. After draining all of the blood from a victim, the victim enters a death-like state and returns to life three days later.

Superhuman Strength: Like all vampires, Dracula possesses superhuman strength. Due to his special stance as the ruler of Earth's Vampires, Dracula can lift about 4 tons under optimum conditions. With the possible exception of Varnae, Dracula is the most powerful vampire that has ever been encountered.

Superhuman Speed: Dracula is capable of running and moving at speeds greater than even the finest human athlete.

Superhuman Stamina: Dracula's body is more resistant to the fatigue toxins generated by his muscles during physical activity. He can exert himself at peak capacity for several hours before fatigue begins to affect him.

Superhuman Agility: Dracula's ability, balance, and body coordination are enhanced to levels that are beyond the natural limits of the human body.

Superhuman Reflexes: Dracula's natural reaction time is enhanced to levels that are beyond the natural limits of the human body.

Regenerative Healing Factor: Dracula is capable of regenerating damaged or destroyed tissue to an extent much greater than an ordinary human. Dracula can fully heal from multiple gunshots and severe burns within a matter of minutes, however he cannot regenerate missing limbs or organs.

Immortality: Dracula, like all vampires, is functionally immortal in the sense that he is immune to the effects of aging and is immune to all known Earthly diseases as long as he ingests fresh blood on a regular basis to maintain his vitality. Once killed, Dracula's power is such that he can resurrect himself under the proper conditions. if incinerated (as by sunlight or fire), Dracula can reconstitute himself if his ashes are placed in a coffin filled with soil from his homeland. If staked through the heart, Dracula can regenerate once the stake is removed.

Fangs: Like all vampires, Dracula has fangs and claws. He can quickly drain a victim of blood.

Hypnotism: Dracula is able to hypnotize others by gazing into their eyes for a short period of time. As Lord of Vampires, Dracula can compel other vampires to follow his orders unless their willpower is strong enough to resist him.

Shape shifting: Dracula is able to shape shift into bats, rats, a wolf, and mist. He can also turn into human-sized or larger wolfen and bat-like forms.

Sorcery: Dracula is a very powerful magician. He is able to summon and command lesser vampires, undead, packs of wild dogs, bats, and rats.

Weather Manipulation: He has considerable control over the elements and weather, enough to oppose Storm or Thor. However, Dracula is severely weakened for an extend period of time afterward.

Mind Control: A person bitten by Dracula is able to be influenced by him through a sort of empathic link. Only beings of exceptionally strong wills are capable of resisting him.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
So says the guy who was making g@y jokes about THE GODDAMNED BATMAN!!!!...

What is your point?

Originally posted by KingD19
On the mist form, they turn back to what they were before they became mist. If he was 5 inches tall, he'd be 5 inches tall when he turned back. There's again no evidence that he'll magically be back to normal.

Speculation...

We know for sure that Vamps in mist form can recondense into humanoid form...and thats a fact.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Yep....

Different opponent, different power set...

There is a real possibility that Warlock falls to the gaze attack...

I am betting that Batmans willpower is superior to Warlocks... Part of me thinks that I would be gravely insulting you if I didn't accuse you of trolling.

Originally posted by Silent Master
What is your point?

How can you call him a troll when you are trolling?

Originally posted by Board Walker
you call it BS because you do not agree nor understand the complexities of its truths.

Many posters in this thread do understand and they are in agreeance- with the perception I hold. Learn to differentiate between the perception of another and your own, so you wont call it BS.

Nah. I call it BS because it's BS. Plain and simple. You make shit up about scans that blatantly go against what is shown and explained. You even outright ignore writer statements because they don't agree with you. And then you go off on tangents and invent some wild psuedo-scientific explanation that everybody knows is just wrong on a multitude of levels.

Batman is FTL+++ because he dodged some bullets from a terrified thug and got hit by the Omega Sanction, yet he gets hit by human level opponents on a daily basis. And he doesn't destroy the environment moving at those speeds despite actual speedsters doing the very same or refraining from moving that fast for just such a reason. Or even just destroy his body because it's not designed for speeds like that. Also he gets around in a Batmobile and Batjet and with a grappling hook and all this stuff because oh yeah. He's not Flash or any speedster period so running from Point A to Point B is pointless.

Superman pushed Ganthet into the multiverse, despite the writer saying "No, Board Walker is wrong...that's the Sun.

It's hilarious.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
How can you call him a troll when you are trolling?

Because he is trolling.

Originally posted by ODG
Part of me thinks that I would be gravely insulting you if I didn't accuse you of trolling.

Think about it...

The Vampiric Gaze attack, amped by Mr Waynes incalculable willpower, equals uber beyond measure...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Speculation...

We know for sure that Vamps in misy form can recondense into humanoid form...and thats a fact.

How is it a fact? Have we seen vampires be transmuted, turn into mist, then turn back to normal? No? I thought not. We have seen vampires turn to mist, and then turn back to exactly the form they were prior to becoming mist.

So if he's transmuted to 5 inches, turns into mist...odds are when he turns back he'll still be 5 inches because we've seen them turn back to their form before the mist, never anything different.

Weaknesses

Dracula, like all vampires, have a number of special vulnerabilities. His greatest weakness, like that of other vampires, is that he must ingest about one quart of fresh blood in order to maintain his vitality. Otherwise, his powers will steadily decrease to the point where he enters a comatose state.

Dracula like all vampires are highly allergic to silver and can be severely injured, or killed, with silver weaponry. If Dracula is injured by silver, his recovery time is considerably slower than normal. Dracula is also unable to withstand exposure to direct sunlight. His tissue begins to instantly dry up and will crumble to powder within a matter of moments. Dracula can be killed by having a wooden stake plunged into his heart, somehow interrupting the mystical energies that keeps him alive. Dracula can also be killed by being decapitated and being exposed to fire. Dracula can also be affected by religious icons, such as the Star of David or a crucifix for example. Dracula is affected by the strength of the wielder's faith in the icon and religion it represents, not the size of the icon itself. Dracula must rest within his coffin during daylight hours. He must line his coffin with soil from his homeland in order to both sustain his power and travel more than 100 miles from his birthplace.

....................................

What stops Warlock from transmuting Batman's suit to silver, or his blood for that matter? Warlock ends this very fast.

Originally posted by Stoic
Weaknesses

Dracula, like all vampires, have a number of special vulnerabilities. His greatest weakness, like that of other vampires, is that he must ingest about one quart of fresh blood in order to maintain his vitality. Otherwise, his powers will steadily decrease to the point where he enters a comatose state.

Dracula like all vampires are highly allergic to silver and can be severely injured, or killed, with silver weaponry. If Dracula is injured by silver, his recovery time is considerably slower than normal. Dracula is also unable to withstand exposure to direct sunlight. His tissue begins to instantly dry up and will crumble to powder within a matter of moments. Dracula can be killed by having a wooden stake plunged into his heart, somehow interrupting the mystical energies that keeps him alive. Dracula can also be killed by being decapitated and being exposed to fire. Dracula can also be affected by religious icons, such as the Star of David or a crucifix for example. Dracula is affected by the strength of the wielder's faith in the icon and religion it represents, not the size of the icon itself. Dracula must rest within his coffin during daylight hours. He must line his coffin with soil from his homeland in order to both sustain his power and travel more than 100 miles from his birthplace.

....................................

What stops Warlock from transmuting Batman's suit in silver, or his blood for that matter? Warlock ends this very fast.

Vampire batman, aka Vatman will transmute any silver that comes into contact or enters his being. He will transmute it into virgin blood, thus silver will only indirectly empower Vatman.

Originally posted by Stoic
Weaknesses

Dracula, like all vampires, have a number of special vulnerabilities. His greatest weakness, like that of other vampires, is that he must ingest about one quart of fresh blood in order to maintain his vitality. Otherwise, his powers will steadily decrease to the point where he enters a comatose state.

Dracula like all vampires are highly allergic to silver and can be severely injured, or killed, with silver weaponry. If Dracula is injured by silver, his recovery time is considerably slower than normal. Dracula is also unable to withstand exposure to direct sunlight. His tissue begins to instantly dry up and will crumble to powder within a matter of moments. Dracula can be killed by having a wooden stake plunged into his heart, somehow interrupting the mystical energies that keeps him alive. Dracula can also be killed by being decapitated and being exposed to fire. Dracula can also be affected by religious icons, such as the Star of David or a crucifix for example. Dracula is affected by the strength of the wielder's faith in the icon and religion it represents, not the size of the icon itself. Dracula must rest within his coffin during daylight hours. He must line his coffin with soil from his homeland in order to both sustain his power and travel more than 100 miles from his birthplace.

....................................

What stops Warlock from transmuting Batman's suit in silver, or his blood for that matter? Warlock ends this very fast.

I can make the same argument for Batman...

Batman looks at him, dominates his psyche, then cuts his head off with the Katana's...

Originally posted by Board Walker
Vampire batman, aka Vatman will transmute any silver that comes into contact or enters his being. He will transmute it into virgin blood, thus silver will only indirectly empower Vatman.

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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I can make the same argument for Batman...

Batman looks at him, dominates his psyche, then cuts his head off with the Katana's...

Warlock can not be dominated in this way. He actually has the ability to take control of his opponents much like a master vampire can.

Originally posted by KingD19
So if he's transmuted to 5 inches, turns into mist...odds are when he turns back he'll still be 5 inches because we've seen them turn back to their form before the mist, never anything different.

Speculation...

Have you ever seen a vampire go from mist form into humanoid? Yeah, so have I...

Mist Form into humanoid form...fact.

Originally posted by Stoic
Warlock can not be dominated in this way. He actually has the ability to take control of his opponents much like a master vampire can.

Batman has far superior willpower feats...

He dominates Warlock with ease...

Telepathy: Without the Soul Gem, Adam was capable of Astral Projection. He fought the Goddess with this ability. He was capable of attacking her physical form and was unfazed by any of her cosmic blasts

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Think about it...

The Vampiric Gaze attack, amped by Mr Waynes incalculable willpower, equals uber beyond measure... I've thought about it...

This thread, amped by the incalculable trollish idiocy, equals uber Internet cancer beyond measure...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Speculation...

Have you ever seen a vampire go from mist form into humanoid? Yeah, so have I...

Mist Form into humanoid form...fact.

When did size and or height being changed suddenly mean a person is no longer humanoid. A humanoid vampire Batman at 5 inches is still humanoid. He'll still be Batman when he turns back, but the results of the transmutation haven't changed.

And it's funny you're calling me out on speculation when that's all you've done. Come up with reasons why proven methods on more powerful people won't work just so Batman can win again. Even though...well he hasn't really won any of these threads.

Soul Affinity: Although Adam exhibited this power with the Soul Gem, he has also exhibited such powers without it; such as exorcising a demon from a man's soul, seeing into a woman's soul and entering her soul. Due to his adventures with the Silver Surfer and having shared a soul-link with him, he was even able to control the Silver Surfer's Board. He also has shared souls with Doctor Strange.

Originally posted by ODG
I've thought about it...

This thread, amped by the incalculable trollish idiocy, equals uber Internet cancer beyond measure...

Yep.

Originally posted by KingD19
When did size and or height being changed suddenly mean a person is no longer humanoid. A humanoid vampire Batman at 5 inches is still humanoid. He'll still be Batman when he turns back, but the results of the transmutation haven't changed.

And it's funny you're calling me out on speculation when that's all you've done. Come up with reasons why proven methods on more powerful people won't work just so Batman can win again. Even though...well he hasn't really won any of these threads.

I've presented truth on top of truth...

It is you who continues to speculate...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I've presented truth on top of truth...

It is you who continues to speculate...

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Originally posted by Stoic
Telepathy: Without the Soul Gem, Adam was capable of Astral Projection. He fought the Goddess with this ability. He was capable of attacking her physical form and was unfazed by any of her cosmic blasts

Cosmic Blasts are not the same as a willpower based gaze attack...

Batman wins...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I've presented truth on top of truth...

It is you who continues to speculate...

Sure you have, Unyielding Bias. Such an appropriate name.

Originally posted by ODG
I've thought about it...

This thread, amped by the incalculable trollish idiocy, equals uber Internet cancer beyond measure...

So you have no counter for my gaze attack argument...

Concession accepted! :-)

Lol.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
So you have no counter for my gaze attack argument...

Concession accepted! :-)

So your new argument is that Batman will gaze lovingly at Adam, between this and your sucking Adam dry argument.....you appear to be on the wrong board.

Originally posted by KingD19
Sure you have, Unyielding Bias. Such an appropriate name.

Awesome name isn't it?

Doing the 2 week free trial on Final Fantasy 14; character is named Infinite Bias!

Originally posted by Silent Master
So your new argument is that Batman will gaze lovingly at Adam, between this and your sucking Adam dry argument.....you appear to be on the wrong board.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Cosmic Blasts are not the same as a willpower based gaze attack...

Batman wins...

What don't you understand about Warlock not being under Chaos and Order's restrictions. He is outside of Eternity's influence, and can not die, because he is also out of Death's influence. The mind whammy thing will not work against him. He fought the Goddess on this level, and did well. Batman is a newly born vampire, and you're attempting to give him Ancient/Master Vampire powers. It does not work like that, and you would know this is you read Dracula. There was a reason why he was the Lord of Vampires. He could do things that fledgling Vampires could not do.

Warlock would only need to turn his suit into silver, and he would be in excruciating pain. You actually just weakened Batman by turning him into a vampire. This isn't a boost, it's a downgrade.

All Vampires have the Gaze Attack...

He takes Warlock out immediately with it...

Batmans willpower is greater than Watlicks based on feats...

Warlock will not be able to resist...

Batman wins yet again! :-)

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
All Vampires have the Gaze Attack...

He takes Warlock out immediately with it...

Batmans willpower is greater than Watlicks based on feats...

Warlock will not be able to resist...

Batman wins yet again! :-)

vampiric gaze is a direct manifestation of the users will, Batman is one of the two primary lynchpins of the DC Metaverse. Batman's will is derived from the DC metaverse itself, superman is the other lynchpin for anyone wondering.

Metaversal will power backed Gaze >>>>>> Adam Warlock

Originally posted by Board Walker
vampiric gaze is a direct manifestation of the users will, Batman is one of the two primary lynchpins of the DC Metaverse. Batman's will is derived from the DC metaverse itself, superman is the other lynchpin for anyone wondering.

Metaversal will power backed Gaze >>>>>> Adam Warlock

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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
All Vampires have the Gaze Attack...

He takes Warlock out immediately with it...

Batmans willpower is greater than Watlicks based on feats...

Warlock will not be able to resist...

Batman wins yet again! :-)

Based on what feats? Warlock literally rose from the dead to turn Thanos into stone, and this was a far weaker Warlock than what you have today. That gaze power would have absolutely no effect on Warlock, or you will hve to show me one time that such an attack would work against him. Even Dracula wouldn't want to have a confrontation with Warlock. Anyways you're clearly one of the top Batman fans, but all the same, he's out of his league here, and you downgraded him as well.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
All Vampires have the Gaze Attack...

He takes Warlock out immediately with it...

Batmans willpower is greater than Watlicks based on feats...

Warlock will not be able to resist...

Batman wins yet again! :-)

While we're on the subject. What else would Batman gain from vampiric powers? Bonus question, why would he gain such, and such from those powers?

Originally posted by Stoic
Based on what feats? Warlock literally rose from the dead to turn Thanos into stone, and this was a far weaker Warlock than what you have today. That gaze power would have absolutely no effect on Warlock, or you will hve to show me one time that such an attack would work against him. Even Dracula wouldn't want to have a confrontation with Warlock. Anyways you're clearly one of the top Batman fans, but all the same, he's out of his league here, and you downgraded him as well.

You are comparin batman to thanos in terms of Will? That is your main problem, batman is in a completely higher tier than thanos in terms of will power. Adam overcame thanos because thanos was of a far lower willpower tier, think of it as Thanos being street leveler in will power while Batman is Trans multiversal in will power.

Batmans strength would increase 10 to 20 times...

All his physical attributes would magnify...

And he'd be far harder to kill than he already is...

Originally posted by Board Walker
You are comparin batman to thanos in terms of Will? That is your main problem, batman is in a completely higher tier than thanos in terms of will power. Adam overcame thanos because thanos was of a far lower willpower tier, think of it as Thanos being street leveler in will power while Batman is Trans multiversal in will power.

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Originally posted by Board Walker
You are comparin batman to thanos in terms of Will? That is your main problem, batman is in a completely higher tier than thanos in terms of will power. Adam overcame thanos because thanos was of a far lower willpower tier, think of it as Thanos being street leveler in will power while Batman is Trans multiversal in will power.

So this is one of many times that everyone agrees to disagree with you. Cool I disagree with you. Batman has as much of a chance here as Frank Castle would, which is none.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Batmans strength would increase 10 to 20 times...

All his physical attributes would magnify...

And he'd be far harder to kill than he already is...

Batman in human form already tanks punches from skyfather level beings, now imagine skyfather withstanding durability multiplied by 20.

Truly batman stomps Adam brutally, why would you make this spite match?

Originally posted by Board Walker
Batman in human form already tanks punches from skyfather level beings, now imagine skyfather withstanding durability multiplied by 20.

Truly batman stomps Adam brutally, why would you make this spite match?

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BW and LOM should be banned for constant trolling in every thread

Originally posted by Stoic
So this is one of many times that everyone agrees to disagree with you. Cool I disagree with you. Batman has as much of a chance here as Frank Castle would, which is none.

you say everyone but that is very inaccurate, many have agreed with my perceptions in this thread, the gamora one, and others. Posters such as Lord of murder, TC Mc, flashezzz, RangerDX, H1A, digi, Raz, Galan, Carver and many others.

In fact it is the minority that often disagrees with me, and im okay with that as I am here to help educate the minorities who have attained enlighement with the majority yet.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
BW and LOM should be banned for constant trolling in every thread

Originally posted by Insane Titan
BW and LOM should be banned for constant trolling in every thread

when many posters of the forum agree with my posts it isnt trolling, you are just emotional over the fact that the majority does mot share your view.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
BW and LOM should be banned for constant trolling in every thread

It's na na na na na time. You know what kids do, and then stick their tongues out at you? Well this is it.

Originally posted by Board Walker
you say everyone but that is very inaccurate, many have agreed with my perceptions in this thread, the gamora one, and others. Posters such as Lord of murder, TC Mc, flashezzz, H1A, digi, Raz, Galan, Carver and many others.

In fact it is the minority that often disagrees with me, and im okay with that as I am here to help educate the minorities who have attained enlighement with the majority yet.

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Originally posted by Board Walker
when many posters of the forum agree with my posts it isnt trolling, you are just emotional over the fact that the majority does mot share your view. agree lol, they are mocking you.

The few that "agree" are the other trolls who side with anything to make themselves look better.

Originally posted by Board Walker
you say everyone but that is very inaccurate, many have agreed with my perceptions in this thread, the gamora one, and others. Posters such as Lord of murder, TC Mc, flashezzz, RangerDX, H1A, digi, Raz, Galan, Carver and many others.

In fact it is the minority that often disagrees with me, and im okay with that as I am here to help educate the minorities who have attained enlighement with the majority yet.

How did they support you? Oh yeah they signed onto their sock accounts to vote in favor of Batman, but had no way of actually countering sound logic. Did you say that Batman would become 20 times greater than normal if he had vampire powers? I guess that means that he would gain increased speed due to the boost in strength huh? See, you just keep agreeing with me, even in this thread.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
agree lol, they are mocking you.

The few that "agree" are the other trolls who side with anything to make themselves look better.

baseless banter on your part,- many posters consistently agree with my views. I listed some of them in my prior post, you just cant accept that so many subscribe to my perceptions of enlightenment that you rationalize it as them covertly mocking me.

Originally posted by Board Walker
baseless banter on your part,- many posters consistently agree with my views. I listed some of them in my prior post, you just cant accept that so many subscribe to my perceptions of enlightenment that you rationalize it as them covertly mocking me.

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Hasn't Batman had his back broken by Bane? A guy who even with Venom at the time wasn't even superhuman in strength? I remember it was pretty popular some years back. And then there's the decades of Batman getting hurt by normal people and stronger people as well.

Originally posted by Board Walker
You are comparin batman to thanos in terms of Will? That is your main problem, batman is in a completely higher tier than thanos in terms of will power. Adam overcame thanos because thanos was of a far lower willpower tier, think of it as Thanos being street leveler in will power while Batman is Trans multiversal in will power.

Honestly, I love you, in a non gay context.

Originally posted by Board Walker
baseless banter on your part,- many posters consistently agree with my views. I listed some of them in my prior post, you just cant accept that so many subscribe to my perceptions of enlightenment that you rationalize it as them covertly mocking me. base loss lol, you 3 of the worst posters on here and trolls and several sock accounts.

Simple facts you talk shit with no facts to back it up

Originally posted by KingD19
Hasn't Batman had his back broken by Bane? A guy who even with Venom at the time wasn't even superhuman in strength? I remember it was pretty popular some years back. And then there's the decades of Batman getting hurt by normal people and stronger people as well.

Yes, which goes to show you that most of his higher level feats are PIS, and writers fear writing what they really think of Batman due to his rabid fan base.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
BW and LOM should be banned for constant trolling in every thread

Really Nihilist?

You are suggesting that someone be banned for trolling?

Originally posted by KingD19
Hasn't Batman had his back broken by Bane? A guy who even with Venom at the time wasn't even superhuman in strength? I remember it was pretty popular some years back. And then there's the decades of Batman getting hurt by normal people and stronger people as well.

Batman has one of the greatest powers in comics here; Vampirism...

He's on a higher level than ever before...

Originally posted by Board Walker
when many posters of the forum agree with my posts it isnt trolling, you are just emotional over the fact that the majority does mot share your view.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Batman has one of the greatest powers in comics here; Vampirism...

He's on a higher level than ever before...

Batman without vampirism is one of the two lynchpins of the entire DC omniverse, with vampirism.....he is immeasurable.

Lord Of Murder you hold great understanding of reality, would you like to join "The Covenant of Lux" in the comic book section? I will add you as a member, it is for members of kmc who seek enlightenment and true inderstanding of comics and their infinite truths.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Batman without vampirism is one of the two lynchpins of the entire DC omniverse, with vampirism.....he is immeasurable.

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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Really Nihilist?

You are suggesting that someone be banned for trolling? yeah I am.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Batman has one of the greatest powers in comics here; Vampirism...

He's on a higher level than ever before...

Great, so now that we're elevating him to these levels, how about Adam put him in a nifty force field, and fly him out into space, where he can bask in the sun? His mist will be well protected in that force field as well, he won't even be able to get out of it. Safe and comfy, and then the sun will do all the rest. He can even transmute his suit into gasoline soaked draws if it helps any.

Adam wins.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Batman without vampirism is one of the two lynchpins of the entire DC omniverse, with vampirism.....he is immeasurable.

Lord Of Murder you hold great understanding of reality, would you like to join "The Covenant of Lux" in the comic book section? I will add you as a member, it is for members of kmc who seek enlightenment and true inderstanding of comics and their infinite truths.

I await indoctrination...

Originally posted by Insane Titan
yeah I am.

It feels good to point the finger at someone else and scream "troll! ban him!" opposed to it always happening to you...doesnt it?

Originally posted by Stoic
Great, so now that we're elevating him to these levels, how about Adam put him in a nifty force field, and fly him out into space, where he can bask in the sun? His mist will be well protected in that force field as well, he won't even be able to get out of it. Safe and comfy, and then the sun will do all the rest. He can even transmute his suit into gasoline soaked draws if it helps any.

As soon as the bell rings BATMAN the Unbeatable will gaze at Adam, dominate him, then chop his head off with the Primary Adamantium Katana's...

Originally posted by Silent Master
BATMAN the Unbeatable wins.

Agreed...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder Originally posted by Silent Master
Adam wins.
Agreed...



Good.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Agreed...



Good.

You know Batman wins this...

Remember this caption:

Adam Warlock transmutes Bruce's mask into sunlight.

GG

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
As soon as the bell rings BATMAN the Unbeatable will gaze at Adam, dominate him, then chop his head off with the Primary Adamantium Katana's...

This is one of the many ways batman could instantly erase adam.

good post!

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Adam Warlock transmutes Bruce's mask into sunlight.

GG

Yep, Even LoM agrees that Adam would win.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder Originally posted by Silent Master
Adam wins.
Agreed...

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Adam Warlock transmutes Bruce's mask into sunlight.

GG



Batman's vampiric powers are too great for Adam to overcome here...

Batman wins...

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Adam Warlock transmutes Bruce's mask into sunlight.

GG

Vatman transmutes the sunlight into blood.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Vatman transmutes the sunlight into blood.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
As soon as the bell rings BATMAN the Unbeatable will gaze at Adam, dominate him, then chop his head off with the Primary Adamantium Katana's...

according to vampire lore, they would have to bite their victim to gain the kind of control that you are speaking of, at least in Warlocks case. Even then I doubt that a fledgling vampire would be able to control Warlock. Adam is just one of those characters that stands apart from the norm.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Vatman transmutes the sunlight into blood.

When did he get transmutation powers?

Originally posted by KingD19
When did he get transmutation powers?

He didn't, and he wouldn't be able to do these things as a fledgling vampire. Some ancient vampires are able to do these things because of innate abilities that they already had, or because of dabbling in the mystic arts. Batman without the vampire curse is a regular human with no powers, and no magical abilities. He does not get the exotic powers card of an ancient vampire or a Vampire Lord just because he became a vampire.

Originally posted by Stoic
He didn't, and he wouldn't be able to do these things as a fledgling vampire. Some ancient vampires are able to do these things because of innate abilities that they already had, or because of dabbling in the mystic arts. Batman without the vampire curse is a regular human with no powers, and no magical abilities. He does not get the exotic powers card of an ancient vampire or a Vampire Lord just because he became a vampire.

Oh I agree completely. Hell even vampire lords don't traditionally have transmutation powers. I don't think we've ever seen Dracula use it, and it would have helped a lot over the years.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
It feels good to point the finger at someone else and scream "troll! ban him!" opposed to it always happening to you...doesnt it? there is a huge difference. You create a thread to troll and when given a argument you can't counter you then troll again. I say and act the way I do when trolls like you say repetitive shit.