Kurse Vs The General (Original)

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Golgo13
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/KE_zpse3e7bce1.jpg

vs

General in original Shaggy Man's body.

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/GN_zpsb096db18.jpg

Golgo13
Darksaint?! Anyone?

DTM
Kurse cannot significantly hurt The General, no physical force can, whereas Eiling can hurt Kurse in return. The General wins, but Kurse makes it last.

Board Walker
shaggy man....nuff said

Stoic
Originally posted by DTM
Kurse cannot significantly hurt The General, no physical force can, whereas Eiling can hurt Kurse in return. The General wins, but Kurse makes it last.

No physical force? Then why were his limbs severed? Your entire post makes Eiling out to be more than he actually is, and there is no such thing as a character that can not be defeated, or hurt.

thingy150
Originally posted by Stoic
No physical force? Then why were his limbs severed? Your entire post makes Eiling out to be more than he actually is, and there is no such thing as a character that can not be defeated, or hurt.

TOAA

tell me who can beat TOAA?

leonidas
he can certainly be harmed. waller took him down with an explosive in his head--he regenerated but it took time and his brain didn't fully recover. kurse hits REALLY hard--hard enough to do the same thing? maybe. kurse is certainly significantly stronger. regen would be tough but could be overcome. kurse is also nearly invulnerable. tough long fight but kurse would win via attrition in the end imo, unless the general gets some iron.

DarkSaint85
He's a bit like the Hulk, in that he has SOME durability, and an insane HF on top of that. He DID regen from a point blank nuke bullet designed to take out Superman, after all.

Plus, that strength which enabled him to manhandle Superman and Orion etc.

Allied to this, is Eiling's tactical mind (which he boasted about). As Leo said, tough long fight, but the GENERAL will win via attrition in the end, unless the general gets some iron. At which point he will beat him more quickly.

Estacado
Eilinig squash!
No someone post General squashing Orion like a bug...uhuh

DarkSaint85
Well, never say I don't help a brother out...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3757690-2543336-2285228_wadeeilling_3.jpg

Or perhaps another showing?

Estacado
The one you had as a sig....uhuh
"God was an astronaut" or whatever he says...

DarkSaint85
Oh, I also like that one.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/4/48954/1457023-new_picture__8_.jpg

Estacado
thumb up
In the begining of the fight Superman says "Full power!"
Yet he is still unable to hurt Eiling.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/1/13201/441247-generalvsjla1di5.jpg

Prof. T.C McAbe
I would go with the General myself.

DarkSaint85
Yeah, his regen was off the charts - he was tanking everything that was being thrown at him.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3757684-2899871-1053863_generalvsjla7fq7_super.jpg

Golgo13
Originally posted by leonidas
he can certainly be harmed. waller took him down with an explosive in his head--he regenerated but it took time and his brain didn't fully recover. kurse hits REALLY hard--hard enough to do the same thing? maybe. kurse is certainly significantly stronger. regen would be tough but could be overcome. kurse is also nearly invulnerable. tough long fight but kurse would win via attrition in the end imo, unless the general gets some iron.

Wasn't that a clone body of SM that Waller created? I'm using the original body.

Estacado
Weakened clone original body was left in the Phantom Zone.

leonidas
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He's a bit like the Hulk, in that he has SOME durability, and an insane HF on top of that. He DID regen from a point blank nuke bullet designed to take out Superman, after all.

Plus, that strength which enabled him to manhandle Superman and Orion etc.

Allied to this, is Eiling's tactical mind (which he boasted about). As Leo said, tough long fight, but the GENERAL will win via attrition in the end, unless the general gets some iron. At which point he will beat him more quickly.

you mean KURSE will win via attrition, yes? if so, i agree thumb up

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by leonidas
you mean KURSE will win via attrition, yes? if so, i agree thumb up

Booo!

leonidas
sad

hey, we disagree--does that mean me and you can have the same kind of thing you and carver have....? shifty

Golgo13
How does Kurse do against, ORIGINAL Shaggy Man? The one that battled the League.

leonidas
original shaggy? likely a draw for pretty much eternity.

DTM
Originally posted by Stoic
No physical force? Then why were his limbs severed? Your entire post makes Eiling out to be more than he actually is, and there is no such thing as a character that can not be defeated, or hurt.

Severed yes, but healed to full strength instantly, so in affect he is pretty much physically unhurtable, at least to anything Kurse can do to him. Kurse simply punching Eiling will do nothing but delay his own beating in return.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by leonidas
sad

hey, we disagree--does that mean me and you can have the same kind of thing you and carver have....? shifty

Where I take care of you because you're like the retard brother who eats crayons? I don't think so.

Mindship
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah, his regen was off the charts - he was tanking everything that was being thrown at him...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3757684-2899871-1053863_generalvsjla7fq7_super.jpg ... including a Wonder punch to the groin. Impressive.

General > Kurse

Sidenote: heroes really like that one-leg-extended, one-leg-cocked position, don't they.

leonidas
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Where I take care of you because you're like the retard brother who eats crayons? I don't think so.

lol well, now what you guys have doesn't seem so special. sad

anyway, here's the scene i was talking about.

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/SS8p20.jpg.html

the explosive wasn't that big but put him down for a long time and his brain never did fully recover or heal. we've seen eiling's skin can be penetrated fairly easily by heralds. i think if kurse was going for the kill he would be easily strong enough to penetrate his skull and brain and incapacitate him that way. the heroes really don't go for kills. i'd think kal could take him down by focusing heat vision through his eyes into his brain.

it also seems a little like people are forgetting just how powerful kurse was. i assume this is the end kurse--who was FAR stronger than a belted up thor+bill? they only beat him via plot, and then it STILL took a blast that actually drained BOTH HAMMERS to beat him. i don't see anyway at all eiling can match that sort of output. and he never tires. at best i can see a stalemate, but i think kurse has ways to put the general down while eiling can do literally nothing to kurse except get bounced around and regenerate from beating after beating....

Golgo13
Originally posted by leonidas
lol well, now what you guys have doesn't seem so special. sad

anyway, here's the scene i was talking about.

http://s1151.photobucket.com/user/sclements1/media/SS8p20.jpg.html

the explosive wasn't that big but put him down for a long time and his brain never did fully recover or heal. we've seen eiling's skin can be penetrated fairly easily by heralds. i think if kurse was going for the kill he would be easily strong enough to penetrate his skull and brain and incapacitate him that way. the heroes really don't go for kills. i'd think kal could take him down by focusing heat vision through his eyes into his brain.

it also seems a little like people are forgetting just how powerful kurse was. i assume this is the end kurse--who was FAR stronger than a belted up thor+bill? they only beat him via plot, and then it STILL took a blast that actually drained BOTH HAMMERS to beat him. i don't see anyway at all eiling can match that sort of output. and he never tires. at best i can see a stalemate, but i think kurse has ways to put the general down while eiling can do literally nothing to kurse except get bounced around and regenerate from beating after beating....

Wasn't that the cloned body? Or did Amanda Waller retrieve the body from the Phantom Zone?

DarkSaint85
What's the fight setting, Golgo?

Golgo13
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What's the fight setting, Golgo?

Fight is similar to the Pre-Crisis fight in JLA. Where the 2 Shaggy Men duke it out (on the moon?) for eternity.

DarkSaint85
Then eventually, General will get some iron, and Kurse will shout out his one weakness.

http://img135.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-10883/loc642/93668_Power_Pack_-_v1_-_018-15_122_642lo.jpg

leonidas
not sure about the clone body, but i didn't think it was.... if it's a setting where eiling can get some iron then, like i said, i'd take the general. but i assume he doesn't know the weakness and he could get killed before he finds it. in a setting without iron, kurse would beat him eventually.

Golgo13
I believe it was a clone body as Estacado pointed out. In the original body, people forget he can adapt like Doomsday. Kurse will have a tough time putting him down for good.

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