Black Tarantula Vs Gotham Butcher

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Golgo13
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8swords
HA!, Black tarantula

Golgo13
Originally posted by 8swords
HA!, Black tarantula

Won't be easy for either.

Golgo13
Anybody else?

krisblaze
Pretty solid win for Black Tarantula imo.

Butcher can heal, but Tarantula is much, much stronger.

Werewolf582
The Gotham Butcher looks like Freddy Kruger on steroids.

Golgo13
Originally posted by krisblaze
Pretty solid win for Black Tarantula imo.

Butcher can heal, but Tarantula is much, much stronger.

What's his best strength feat? Butcher was pulling a small train and that's when he was a mere boy.

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
What's his best strength feat? Butcher was pulling a small train and that's when he was a mere boy.

Spiderman did this and his licks meant nothing to Black Tarantula.

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krisblaze
Todd Spidey ain't quite relevant to regular spidey, current spidey or this thread smile

carver9
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Golgo13
Felix was doing similar feats as a boy. Plus, with the stuff they pump the Talons with, the strength would be comparable.

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
Felix was doing similar feats as a boy. Plus, with the stuff they pump the Talons with, the strength would be comparable.

Comparable to who and what strength fts does he have after his childhood?

Golgo13
He stopped a train in Talon series, IIRC. He was wrecking Talon as well.

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
He stopped a train in Talon series, IIRC. He was wrecking Talon as well.

Ok. Spiderman has far better fts and he was nothing to Black Tarantula.

Golgo13
This isn't Spider-Man we're talking about. What are BT's strength feats? IIRC, didn't White Tiger stab him in the back? Doesn't seem to be durable in that area.

Werewolf582
Originally posted by krisblaze
Todd Spidey ain't quite relevant to regular spidey, current spidey or this thread smile

krisblaze
Originally posted by Golgo13
Felix was doing similar feats as a boy. Plus, with the stuff they pump the Talons with, the strength would be comparable.
Don't worry.

That particular run by McFarlane and Michiliene is far from the average.

And a lot of tanks only weight 10-30 tons smile

Golgo13
Originally posted by krisblaze
Don't worry.

That particular run by McFarlane and Michiliene is far from the average.

And a lot of tanks only weight 10-30 tons smile

Where would you rank current Spidey, anyway?

krisblaze
Originally posted by Golgo13
Where would you rank current Spidey, anyway?
10-20 tons.

Not too far from Black Tarantula's level.

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
This isn't Spider-Man we're talking about. What are BT's strength feats? IIRC, didn't White Tiger stab him in the back? Doesn't seem to be durable in that area.

Let me end this. First you have nothing for strength fts. Nothing that Spiderman has done. I feel safe at saying that this guy can't even hurt BT. Here's why.

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Spiderman put everything he had into that fight, all of his power into his blows and he didn't even slow BT down. Not even a scratch. He fatigued himself pounding on BT. Let's continue.

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Spiderman is nothing to him again. Spiderman then blitz him, pound on him and it does nothing...doesn't even slow him down. BT destroys him and walks off again. Let's continue.

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Here we go again. Spiderman pounds on him, Spiderman has help and the help pounds on Tarantula...Nothing happens, nothing at all. Then, he is fast enough to catch Spiderman who is faster than GB. This is a massacre. I would go as far as to say this isn't a fight. BT is a Juggernaut. People just as strong if not stronger than GB couldn't even pause BT. BT stomps this 10/10, with ease. This doesn't include the fact that he can shoot blasts out of his eyes. Powerful blasts.

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
Where would you rank current Spidey, anyway?

Spiderman under stress has class 100 showings. Again, what fts does yow boy have?

Golgo13
Originally posted by carver9
Let me end this. First you have nothing for strength fts. Nothing that Spiderman has done. I feel safe at saying that this guy can't even hurt BT. Here's why.

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Spiderman put everything he had into that fight, all of his power into his blows and he didn't even slow BT down. Not even a scratch. He fatigued himself pounding on BT. Let's continue.

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Spiderman is nothing to him again. Spiderman then blitz him, pound on him and it does nothing...doesn't even slow him down. BT destroys him and walks off again. Let's continue.

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Here we go again. Spiderman pounds on him, Spiderman has help and the help pounds on Tarantula...Nothing happens, nothing at all. Then, he is fast enough to catch Spiderman who is faster than GB. This is a massacre. I would go as far as to say this isn't a fight. BT is a Juggernaut. People just as strong if not stronger than GB couldn't even pause BT. BT stomps this 10/10, with ease. This doesn't include the fact that he can shoot blasts out of his eyes. Powerful blasts.

And? Those aren't exactly strength feats. Felix as a CHILD held on to this:

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Felix was was trouncing the main Talon in the book who was getting repeatedly whaled on by Bane's henchmen who were on the same Venom and did absolutely nothing. Same venom that Batman was on and drew blood from Superman.

-K-M-
Originally posted by Golgo13
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Holy crap! Conan O'Brian was alive in 1852?

Golgo13
Originally posted by -K-M-
Holy crap! Conan O'Brien was alive in 1852?


Hahaha good catch.

carver9
@Golgo...

Is that the only strength ft he have? That's not enough. Spiderman has far better fts than that and he couldn't do anything to BT. Do you not understand this? Him holding up a train with a chain isn't enough. Especially if it's a one time ft.

Vixal1
IIRC Spiderman lifting a tank was from a Marvel What If, if not feel free to correct me

Golgo13
Originally posted by carver9
@Golgo...

Is that the only strength ft he have? That's not enough. Spiderman has far better fts than that and he couldn't do anything to BT. Do you not understand this? Him holding up a train with a chain isn't enough. Especially if it's a one time ft.

Tarantula was stabbed by Tiger. Butchers claws along with his strength are going to do a number on him. Then there is his healing.

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
Tarantula was stabbed by Tiger. Butchers claws along with his strength are going to do a number on him. Then there is his healing.

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What does being stabbed have to do with this fight?

WTF. Nothing has harmed Black Panther (he does have one low showing). This guy was literally a Juggernaut. He possess every single advantage here including the ability to blast energy from his eyes. I see no reason on Why BT wouldn't just steamroll and walk through all of his attacks like he did Spidey.

Werewolf582
Originally posted by carver9
Nothing has harmed Black Panther (he does have one low showing).



Wut?

Golgo13
His durability isn't as good. How will he take down Talon?

Golgo13
Originally posted by Werewolf582
Wut?

Carver is trolling me.

Werewolf582
Originally posted by Golgo13
Carver is trolling me.

He misspelled tarantula.

Golgo13
He has Panther on his mind. wink

Werewolf582
Originally posted by Golgo13
He has Panther on his mind. wink

You misspelled Daredevil

Also, how old was The GB when he held that train?

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
His durability isn't as good. How will he take down Talon?

Huh? Who durability isn't as good? He will beat him by pounding on him.

I admit, I usually mews with you but this time I am serious.

Golgo13
Originally posted by carver9
Huh? Who durability isn't as good? He will beat him by pounding on him.

I admit, I usually mews with you but this time I am serious.

Talons were repeatedly pounded on by super humans, yet did nothing to them.

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
Talons were repeatedly pounded on by super humans, yet did nothing to them.

How strong are these super humans?

Golgo13
Originally posted by carver9
How strong are these super humans?

Amped on the same venom Bane was on, IIRC. They were his henchmen. They were beating Talon so hard that they created damage to the ground, yet he just looked up and smiled. That's how good these healing factors are on the top tier Talons.

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
Amped on the same venom Bane was on, IIRC. They were his henchmen. They were beating Talon so hard that they created damage to the ground, yet he just looked up and smiled. That's how good these healing factors are on the top tier Talons.

And Bane beat those same people, correct?

Golgo13
Bane couldn't really put Talon down from what I remember. Talons are already dead. Almost like zombies, but with impressive agility, strength, and healing powers.

When Batman first encountered the first Talon, he thought he was on a certain type of Venom.

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
Bane couldn't really put Talon down from what I remember. Talons are already dead. Almost like zombies, but with impressive agility, strength, and healing powers.

When Batman first encountered the first Talon, he thought he was on a certain type of Venom.

So you have proof that the Talons are stronger than or as strong as Spiderman.

Golgo13
Felix is the strongest one and we know what he's capable of. Felix has the combo of strength, speed, and healing. It's going to be tough for Tarantula to take him down for good.

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
Felix is the strongest one and we know what he's capable of. Felix has the combo of strength, speed, and healing. It's going to be tough for Tarantula to take him down for good.

Is he on Spiderman level and can you please provide scans?

Golgo13
Originally posted by carver9
Is he on Spiderman level and can you please provide scans?

Don't have scans on me now. He was only featured in the Talon series last year. When has BT taken on someone like Felix?

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
Don't have scans on me now. He was only featured in the Talon series last year. When has BT taken on someone like Felix?

How powerful is Felix?

Golgo13
Originally posted by carver9
How powerful is Felix?

More powerful than Bane, imo. I wanted to see them fight since they appeared in the same series. Felix wad a special case, because the leaders who took him in couldn't contain him. He even took out his eyes so they couldn't spy on him.

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
More powerful than Bane, imo. I wanted to see them fight since they appeared in the same series. Felix wad a special case, because the leaders who took him in couldn't contain him. He even took out his eyes so they couldn't spy on him.

And Spiderman would destroy Bane. Your proof isn't helping you here. BT destroys him and easily.

Golgo13
Agree to disagree.

carver9
Naah, let's debate this out. I'll wait until you can get those scans though.

Golgo13
You haven't even read the series. Lol

krisblaze
Originally posted by Golgo13
You haven't even read the series. Lol
He rarely has.

Though I also think that Black Tarantula would beat Bane pretty bad.

Gotham Butcher always struck me more of someone who could life maybe 10 tons tops, at least until I saw the train-lifting scene from his youth.

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
You haven't even read the series. Lol

What made you say that? I'm asking you to back up your case. Did you know about Tarantula showings against Spiderman?

Golgo13
Because of your answer. Nobody is going to win this easily.

JayDaDon
How fast is this butcher? Remember Tarantula was atLEAST as fast as Spider-man.

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
Because of your answer. Nobody is going to win this easily.

You showed him holding up a train and then bring up him getting pounded on. That isn't enough to pull the win here. Spiderman taxed himself pounding on Tarantula, something that has never happened to him before and it did absolutely nothing at all to this guy. What you've told me so far doesn't give him a single win against BT.

Galan007
I'll post the image again, because it appears to be dead...

When he was a boy, Felix was able to lift the weight of a locomotive:
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Aside from that, his only real notable feats are: a.) a HF that grants him nigh-immortality, and b.) enduring absolute zero:
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Aside from that, we know he is the most powerful of the Talons.


Anywho, BT wins.

Golgo13
Originally posted by carver9
You showed him lifting a train and then bring up him getting pounded on. That isn't enough to pull the win here. Spiderman taxed himself pounding on Tarantula, something that has never happened to him before and it did absolutely nothing at all to this guy. What you've told me so far doesn't give him a single win against BT.

LOL! I never said he (Felix) got pounded on. I said Bane's Henchmen pounded on Talon (Calvin Rose), who was on the same Talon upgrade and it did nothing to him.

Felix can regenerate, so the team that eventually took him out needed to decapitate him. Basically needed to remove all his limbs to finally kill him. Felix had no bad showings,.

carver9
Originally posted by Galan007
I'll post the image again, because it appears to be dead...

When he was a boy, Felix was able to lift the weight of a locomotive:
http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/22018996_Talon_2012-_012-001.jpg

Aside from that, his only real notable feats are: a.) a HF that grants him nigh-immortality, and b.) enduring absolute zero:
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Aside from that, we know he is the most powerful of the Talons.


Anywho, BT wins.

This guy is amazing. Galan posted fts. With that said, since I trust this is all he has done per Galan admission, BT stomps this, badly.

Golgo13
Originally posted by Galan007
I'll post the image again, because it appears to be dead...

When he was a boy, Felix was able to lift the weight of a locomotive:
http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/22018996_Talon_2012-_012-001.jpg

Aside from that, his only real notable feats are: a.) a HF that grants him nigh-immortality, and b.) enduring absolute zero:
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Aside from that, we know he is the most powerful of the Talons.


Anywho, BT wins.

Note that this is pre Talon upgrade too. Locomotives weigh anywhere from 40 to 200 tons. Way above street level.

DarkSaint85
Surely all Talon feats would be admissible for him as well, as he is the most powerful?

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