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No prep
No knowledge

Comic only
No cartoon/anime adaption feats

Unicron wins

At these types of power levels, it's all a bit speculative. But this isn't the first time this thread has been made. And the consensus - among those with familiarity of all three - usually rests on Unicron.

Yes friends, act now, destroy Unicron! Kill the Grand Poobah! Eliminate even the toughest stains!

Originally posted by KingD19
Yes friends, act now, destroy Unicron! Kill the Grand Poobah! Eliminate even the toughest stains! lol

Originally posted by Digi
At these types of power levels, it's all a bit speculative. But this isn't the first time this thread has been made. And the consensus - among those with familiarity of all three - usually rests on Unicron.

.........oh boy

Beyonder clears with ease. durrr

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Beyonder clears with ease. durrr
?.....please don't derail my thread.

What are Unicron's comic only feats that have this so one-sided?

Imperiex > Galactus > Unicron

Originally posted by psycho gundam
What are Unicron's comic only feats that have this so one-sided?

Consumming a universe for starters...

Originally posted by zopzop
Imperiex > Galactus > Unicron
Any reason why?

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Any reason why?
Imperiex is an actual abstract and responsible for the Big Bang that created the DCU.
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Galactus is probably the most powerful non abstract in Marvel.
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Unicorn is......... sleepy

Originally posted by zopzop
Imperiex is an actual abstract and responsible for the Big Bang that created the DCU.
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Galactus is probably the most powerful non abstract in Marvel.
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Unicorn is......... sleepy

Imaginary?

Originally posted by zopzop
Imperiex is an actual abstract and responsible for the Big Bang that created the DCU.
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Galactus is probably the most powerful non abstract in Marvel.
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Unicorn is......... sleepy have you read anything with comic Unicron in?

Originally posted by Insane Titan
have you read anything with comic Unicron in?
A little.

But it's the "Saint of Killers" fiasco all over again. I don't trust 'cosmics' outside of Marvel/DC.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Imaginary?

Originally posted by zopzop
Imperiex is an actual abstract and responsible for the Big Bang that created the DCU.
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Galactus is probably the most powerful non abstract in Marvel.
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Unicorn is......... sleepy

A universe destroyer.

According to Primus at the end of the Marvel run, Unicron destroyed the universe that came before the current one.

Originally posted by zopzop
A little.

But it's the "Saint of Killers" fiasco all over again. I don't trust 'cosmics' outside of Marvel/DC.



Transformers was developed in Marvel, though. When they say "Destroyed the universe", they're talking about some subdivision of the Marvel universe. They all have the same abstracts, don't they? Eternity and Death and what not?

Unicron and Imperiex are featless. Galactus wins.

Originally posted by carver9
Unicron and Imperiex are featless. Galactus wins.

The One Above All is featless, too. Does Big G beat him?

Originally posted by cdtm
The One Above All is featless, too. Does Big G beat him?
The One Above All is featless??? WTF are you smoking? He shown to be the author!

Originally posted by zopzop
Imperiex is an actual abstract and responsible for the Big Bang that created the DCU.
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Galactus is probably the most powerful non abstract in Marvel.
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Unicorn is......... sleepy

Everything regarding imperiex is speculative, i linked a comicvine article which supposedly debunked imperiex, operator said he'd get back to me about that article, so im waiting; till then i'd say abstaining from imperiex would be a good idea.

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
Everything regarding imperiex is speculative, i linked a comicvine article which supposedly debunked imperiex, operator said he'd get back to me about that article, so im waiting; till then i'd say abstaining from imperiex would be a good idea.
yawn

Originally posted by cdtm
The One Above All is featless, too. Does Big G beat him?

HULK beats him.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
HULK beats him.

This guy right here is a super genius. He will be facing the most powerful man in history.

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media-full/Hulk/Screenshot_2014-06-20-12-04-51_zpse77f2a00.png.html

Oh boy.....so who would honestly win?

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
Everything regarding imperiex is speculative, i linked a comicvine article which supposedly debunked imperiex, operator said he'd get back to me about that article, so im waiting; till then i'd say abstaining from imperiex would be a good idea.

He did not debunk anything... Its more like people have debunked him. Read the middle part of the power he has.

http://i.imgur.com/Xj99F0w.jpg

Originally posted by cdtm
Transformers was developed in Marvel, though. When they say "Destroyed the universe", they're talking about some subdivision of the Marvel universe. They all have the same abstracts, don't they? Eternity and Death and what not?

Yeah, that's correct. Marvel Transformers occurs on Earth-91274, so just 1 reality within the multiverse. Eternity, et. al still govern that one. Unicron was essentially a localized version of Oblivion.

I been knew marvel and transformers so I wonder if the one is TOAA.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Consumming a universe for starters... Yeah but from my recollection it took him Billions of years. The universe as we know it formed from the "crumbs" of what remained

Originally posted by carver9
Unicron featless.
http://i.imgur.com/ZmArZMy.png

Nevermind

Originally posted by zopzop
yawn

I dont know dude, im staying away from imperiex

Originally posted by kevdude
He did not debunk anything... Its more like people have debunked him. Read the middle part of the power he has.

http://i.imgur.com/Xj99F0w.jpg

The contexts in the story arc isnt it? i understand the threat imperiex posses, but for clarification, someone has to read the story arc and fully gouge imperiex's power without the use of techs or probes.

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
I dont know dude, im staying away from imperiex



The contexts in the story arc isnt it? i understand the threat imperiex posses, but for clarification, someone has to read the story arc and fully gouge imperiex's power without the use of techs or probes.

You mean like if the alien alliance attacked just him, they would all perish and the universe would be remade again?

http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/probemisc5-1.jpg

Or the fact the Imperiex-Probes can travel through time?
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/probebrainiac1.jpg

Here he 'hollows' the universe and he begins anew as part of the wave of creation.
http://i.imgur.com/wPYTYjS.jpg
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/imperiexuni2.jpg

Soldiers of a million worlds and Apokolips couldn't stop Imperiex.
http://i.imgur.com/zfFkwaF.jpg

His Command Ship, his Probes, it all is a small fraction of Imperiex-Prime himself... He creates the ship from his power.

http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/imperiexuni7.jpg
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/probe1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MrkRyhB.jpg

Them feats thou.

Originally posted by kevdude
You mean like if the alien alliance attacked just him, they would all perish and the universe would be remade again?

http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/probemisc5-1.jpg

Or the fact the Imperiex-Probes can travel through time?
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/probebrainiac1.jpg

Here he 'hollows' the universe and he begins anew as part of the wave of creation.
http://i.imgur.com/wPYTYjS.jpg
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/imperiexuni2.jpg

Soldiers of a million worlds and Apokolips couldn't stop Imperiex.
http://i.imgur.com/zfFkwaF.jpg

His Command Ship, his Probes, it all is a small fraction of Imperiex-Prime himself... He creates the ship from his power.

http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/imperiexuni7.jpg
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/probe1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MrkRyhB.jpg

Those are some nice feats, just so its clear, thats imperiex prime without the energy of destroyed galaxies, when he's about to destroy the universe?

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
Those are some nice feats, just so its clear, thats imperiex prime without the energy of destroyed galaxies, when he's about to destroy the universe?
For anybody claiming that the big bang was due to hallowing, post these.



Hallowing wasn't meant to create a big bang, it was meant to create a black hole and destroy the current universe. The big bang? All Imperiex's power.

So
Imperiex > Galactus

What about Unicron?

Yes, he is > Unicron also.

Full powered galactus should win,I am pretty sure big G could bust the universe if he wanted. Hell cosmic cubes can do that. Though he couls use the ultimate PIS in marvvel history and wipe these two out. All hail the UN

Phoenix force is universe level
Cosmic cube is universe level
Infinity gauntlet is universe level

Originally posted by abhilegend
For anybody claiming that the big bang was due to hallowing, post these.



Hallowing wasn't meant to create a big bang, it was meant to create a black hole and destroy the current universe. The big bang? All Imperiex's power.

Now that clarifies everything, so at the end of our worlds at war in Action Comics #782, when imperiex went big bang mode, that was from his own energy and not from the energies taken from the hollowfication, which was misinterpreted and is actually meant to destroy the universe?

So how many hollowfications did it take? how many galaxies and planets? and if the probes succeeded they would have initiated a big bang? but because earth the last ingredient wasnt hollowfied, imperiex prime had to come and initiate the big bang from his own power instead?

What young justice issue is that?

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
Now that clarifies everything, so at the end of our worlds at war in Action Comics #782, when imperiex went big bang mode, that was from his own energy and not from the energies taken from the hollowfication, which was misinterpreted and is actually meant to destroy the universe?

So how many hollowfications did it take? how many galaxies and planets? and if the probes succeeded they would have initiated a big bang? but because earth the last ingredient wasnt hollowfied, imperiex prime had to come and initiate the big bang from his own power instead?

What young justice issue is that?
No, the hallowing was never meant to unleash a big bang. It was meant to create a black hole that channels the power of this universe in Imperiex's ship which would recycle it into a new universe.

Young Justice: Our worlds at war.

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
What young justice issue is that? Young Justice: Our Worlds at War #01 (2001). Same issue in which Waverider stated that Imperiex was an "Omni-Temporal" threat.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, the hallowing was never meant to unleash a big bang. It was meant to create a black hole that channels the power of this universe in Imperiex's ship which would recycle it into a new universe.

Young Justice: Our worlds at war.

Hold on, so when imperiex in action comics #782 went big bang, was it by channeling the energy from the hollowed planet/galaxies, from his ship?

If no, then where did the universe energy from the ship go?

Originally posted by Galan007
Young Justice: Our Worlds at War #01 (2001). Same issue in which Waverider stated that Imperiex was an "Omni-Temporal" threat.

What does omni-temporal mean?

If we're putting all bets on the table, how powerful is imperiex without his ships, probes and the use of hollowfication?

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
What does omni-temporal mean?

If we're putting all bets on the table, how powerful is imperiex without his ships, probes and the use of hollowfication? omni-temporal=all-time. ie. Imperiex was able to attack from any point(s) in time.

He was a universal power.

Originally posted by Galan007
omni-temporal=all-time. ie. Imperiex was able to attack from any point(s) in time.

He was a universal power.

Wow, thats impressive:

So he's universal without the energy from hollowfication?

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
Wow, thats impressive:

So he's universal without the energy from hollowfication?
Brainiac 13 wasn't just Omni temporal, he was destroying the whole time lines and fighting Imperiex across a thousand million timelines simultaneously.


Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course he can. Post a fight between Imperiex and Worthy and see who wins. Superman directly overpowered Imperiex powered B13. B13 was shredding DCU timeline EVEN before getting the power and WTFSTOMPED Linear Men.

http://i.imgur.com/ag1C2oJ.jpg

So yeah, he beats the shit out of them.

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Phoenix force is universe level
Cosmic cube is universe level
Infinity gauntlet is universe level
Um,pretty sure phoenix and IG are more than that,if a cosmic cube being is universal,its common sense the PF and IG are way more than that,just cuz they don't bust universes like bad guys dosent mean they cant

Originally posted by abhilegend
Brainiac 13 wasn't just Omni temporal, he was destroying the whole time lines and fighting Imperiex across a thousand million timelines simultaneously.

I didnt understand the context of that scan; do you have scans showing B13 was destroying the whole time lines and fighting Imperiex across a thousand million timelines simultaneously?

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
I didnt understand the context of that scan; do you have scans showing B13 was destroying the whole time lines and fighting Imperiex across a thousand million timelines simultaneously?
http://i.imgur.com/qnW12l4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XaUrthm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Y4uWH9Q.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2v0JU9i.jpg

Galactus according to John Byron,is fated to start the next big Bang.Soif people are going to use unicron as his top feat it becomes a draw .But G has the nullifier,if he makes use of it he wins.Good to reply to your post Mr.B!

Originally posted by Galan007
http://i.imgur.com/qnW12l4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XaUrthm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Y4uWH9Q.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2v0JU9i.jpg

Thanks for the scans Galan. Was B13 amped in anyway?

And where does abhilegend's scan: http://i.imgur.com/ag1C2oJ.jpg
Fit in amongst the scans you posted?

What issue is that?

Originally posted by zopzop
Imperiex > Galactus > Unicron

Originally posted by zom1967
Galactus according to John Byron,is fated to start the next big Bang.Soif people are going to use unicron as his top feat it becomes a draw .But G has the nullifier,if he makes use of it he wins.Good to reply to your post Mr.B!
Thanks Mr.Zom.