Nightcrawler vs Flash

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relentless1
super speed vs teleportation, both are instantaneous..who holds the advantage? who wins? Flash (barry allen) or Nightcrawler

Scoobless
Neither is instantaneous.

Flash wins, 100%

leonidas
Originally posted by Scoobless
Neither is instantaneous.

Flash wins, 100%

thumb up nc has no chance in this match assuming this is normal, full powered flash. iirc correctly, quicksilver has beaten nc before his upgrade.

carver9
This fight is based off of who thinks and reacts faster and we all know the answer to that question.

riv6672
Thought this was a fight, in which case i was going to post:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/20066/1003535-ironfist15enterthexmen131in.jpg
It might still be relevant though. There IS a time lag to what NC does. Flash wins.

carver9
Originally posted by riv6672
Thought this was a fight, in which case i was going to post:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/20066/1003535-ironfist15enterthexmen131in.jpg
It might still be relevant though. There IS a time lag to what NC does. Flash wins.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/27599/565559-sladeflash3ea.jpg

It happens to the best of them.

riv6672
Well, not going to harp on which writer was treating his characters evenly and which was having a wank fest, but, i will agree it does happen to the best of them.
In this case, Flash is the best of them.

juggernaut74
Flash.

wuleecat
Deathstroke tripping up the Flash with a metal stick is the most idiotic writing in comic book history.
Actually no, that would be when Deathstroke stabbed the Flash with a sword by 'guessing' where he would be.

Nightcrawler hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell of winning this fight.

riv6672
Good, i didnt have to say it, wuleecat did.

carver9
Originally posted by wuleecat
Deathstroke tripping up the Flash with a metal stick is the most idiotic writing in comic book history.
Actually no, that would be when Deathstroke stabbed the Flash with a sword by 'guessing' where he would be.

Nightcrawler hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell of winning this fight.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125392/3003315-1148579-deathstroke_vs_flash_super.jpg

riv6672
We just gonna post low end showings and ignore facts?

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/sites/default/files/images/spotlight/rogue21.jpg

I dont mind, it gives me a chance to Google images which is fun...stick out tongue

carver9
Lol...look at the difference in the Nightcrawler scans and the Flash scans though.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...look at the difference in the Nightcrawler scans and the Flash scans though.

Exactly. One side is clearly posting examples of PIS, and lowballing, and the other is posting examples that are actually believable.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Exactly. One side is clearly posting examples of PIS, and lowballing, and the other is posting examples that are actually believable.

Which side is that (even though I said Flash would win, and easily)?

DarkSaint85
Do you really not know?

Nightcrawler, who has some enhanced reflex feats, being out reacted by iron fist....who has tons of his own reflex feats under his belt.

Death stroke, an enhanced human, out reacting Wally, who is a light speeder, and once was so fast he out reacted his own shadow....

Hmmm. Someone's lowballing by equating the two. But who??

DarkSaint85
And of course, dear carver, you DID read OP which specifically said Barry Allen, right?

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Do you really not know?

Nightcrawler, who has some enhanced reflex feats, being out reacted by iron fist....who has tons of his own reflex feats under his belt.

Death stroke, an enhanced human, out reacting Wally, who is a light speeder, and once was so fast he out reacted his own shadow....

Hmmm. Someone's lowballing by equating the two. But who??

Do you have scans of the Shadow ft? Also, are you implying Deathstroke as having Flash level speed?

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And of course, dear carver, you DID read OP which specifically said Barry Allen, right?

If Deathstroke can do that to Wally, shouldn't he be able to do the same to Barry?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Also, are you implying Deathstroke as having Flash level speed?

Wut.

Originally posted by carver9
If Deathstroke can do that to Wally, shouldn't he be able to do the same to Barry?

Are you counting to potato right now?

carver9
Just forget it.

DarkSaint85
....

Anyway:

http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5els7ZeBw1qidrtmo1_1280.jpg

carver9
thumb up

I thought you said Deathstroke out ran his shadow. Flash wins.

DarkSaint85
Lol no.

I was laughing at how when rivv posted Nightcrawler being out reacted by a guy relatively close in reflex speeds (Iron Fist), you equate it with Flash getting out reacted by a guy multiple levels below him.

And say they're the same thing.

carver9
Reflexes had nothing to do with the Nightcrawler showing though.

DarkSaint85
The punch was coming for him just as he materialised.

If he had faster reflexes, he could have dodged/parried.

He did not.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The punch was coming for him just as he materialised.

If he had faster reflexes, he could have dodged/parried.

He did not.

Iron fist caught him during mid teleportation. Didn't have a thing to do with reflexes. We are talking about a guy that kept up with Spiderman. Can't see him having any problems dodging Iron fist. Iron fist just timed his attack via teleportation.


http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l130/Red_Atom/Nightcrawler/sp161.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l130/Red_Atom/Nightcrawler/sp1612.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l130/Red_Atom/Nightcrawler/sp1613.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l130/Red_Atom/Nightcrawler/sp1615.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l130/Red_Atom/Nightcrawler/sp1616.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l130/Red_Atom/Nightcrawler/sp1617.jpg

riv6672
Carver, i get it.
I go into some (too many) threads and act the fool, too.

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