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Basically as the title says. Who is the most powerful/dangerous/deadly anime character (can be antagonists or protagonists)? The only series I would say to leave out is Dragonball (and its branch-offs) because those characters are just too over-powered.

NOTE: Also, no Yugioh or Pokemon characters.

The Featherine, Kami Tenchi.

Both of which would solo DBZ by looking in their direction, literally.

Also, Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, and Simon the Digger.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
The Featherine, Kami Tenchi.

Both of which would solo DBZ by looking in their direction, literally.

Also, Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, and Simon the Digger.

I'm still a little new to anime, and I am looking for more to watch since Naruto has its head up its anus right now. Which shows are those characters from?

Tenchi Muyo, Gurren Lagann.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Tenchi Muyo, Gurren Lagann.

And what's the premise of each?

So the Blue Eyes Whote Dragon is out?

Originally posted by Jmanghan
The Featherine, Kami Tenchi.

Both of which would solo DBZ by looking in their direction, literally.

Also, Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, and Simon the Digger.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
The Featherine
You mean Featherine from Umineko? That's a visual novel series. So she's definitely not an anime character.

http://media.animevice.com/uploads/3/37749/671288-2581595_broly_his_power_is_maximum.jpg

Originally posted by Astner
You mean Featherine from Umineko? That's a visual novel series. So she's definitely not an anime character. Depends on how loosely you use terms based around the term "anime". Umineko is most certainly anime based, even if it never had a series.

Pokemon and Yugioh are also bitches.

When compared to the anime's I listed.

You don't need to have a series to be considered "Anime"

Originally posted by Jmanghan
You don't need to have a series to be considered "Anime"
A series do need an anime-styled television series or film to be considered anime.

Anime is essentially. Animation is Japan.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Anime is essentially. Animation is Japan. What?

Cryptic, isn't it? I'll leave that for you to figure out.

Visual Novels aren't anime. The industries are connected and influence each other but are separate.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
So the Blue Eyes Whote Dragon is out?

Sorry, but yes, he is out. It's just too difficult to accurately compare characters like Pokemon or Yugioh Monsters to other anime.

Masane Amaha, second Witchblade form. She can get hurt but can't die and simultaneously craves pain and killing others. She is literally A living weapon and as the Witchblade can kill anything. She isn't a super all-powerful being but she can kill all-powerful beings.

Originally posted by jmoul
And what's the premise of each?

Tenchi Muyoaka 'No Need For Tenchi' is a harem anime about a buncha alien girls landing on earth (One, a powerful princess. Another, the most dangerous space pirate. A third, a space cop with absurd luck. A genius inventor without parallel. A living spaceship. That sort.)and getting into this guy, Tenchi. He's part alien himself and doesn't know it and there's those whole plot about these higher-dimensional goddesses and such who created the universe, but basically the joke is 'you've got these absurdly powerful characters and they spend their time fighting over a guy instead.'

There's a point where a character sends...well, I'll just call it 'the Death Star, but bigger,' against Earth. No-one is worried. One of the characters wrecks it, on her own, while drunk.

Though, there is still some actual real-badass serious parts too, and some villains who are legitimate threats, some of the stuff involving the big cosmic goddesses (Called Chousin, which literally translates to 'super gods') especially, but the core of the story is the character interaction between the girls and the contrast between them and their situation.

As harem series go, it's pretty fun, btw. And since it's an older one, the fanservice doesn't get out of hand.




Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann aka TTGL is a mecha show about an oppressed humanity, starting out literally living underground in caves out of fear of the beastmen who control the surface with an army of mecha, fighting to free itself from tyranny and for survival against an increasingly overpowered series of threats via hot blooded awesomeness aka Spiral Power (I.e. being a hot-blooded shonen hero with a strong will literally is a source of power in this universe).

It's very, very good at going, "You think that was overpowered? This is overpowered!".

Also worth noting, the main character is sort of the anti Shinji Ikarei. Introverted kid who inspires in the face of adversity.

For that matter, TTGL is essentially one big "What if the creator of Evangelion didn't have depression" story.

I need to watch more anime shows before I can answer this. Basically, I'll never know because there is so much anime to watch. *O*

Originally posted by Inhuman
http://media.animevice.com/uploads/3/37749/671288-2581595_broly_his_power_is_maximum.jpg

WEAK!

1. Lord of Nightmares
2. Elder God Demonbane
3. Kami (Aka Kami Tenchi)
4. Othus
5. Gurren Lagan

Lol the Law of Identity would wreck every character listed so far:

Writer - the ability to see the worlds as information, like to write a story, fiction. Endless logical possibilities could include anything that can be described. There are universes of different sizes (though history may cover the building, though the solar system, though infinite space) with all sorts of laws. There are stories that include parallel worlds, infinite dimensional spaces, as well as foreign gods , for whom all this is nothing more than fiction (and even lower beings are able to think in terms of an infinitely dense infinity). Stories can be raised to the power, forming a structure where the real worlds for some creatures are only dreams or fiction for the second, whose worlds are also a story for the third. This hierarchy can aspire even to infinity, but the law of identity will always be higher than that of any level.

Meliodas sama

Enrico Pucci and Giorno Giovanni from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure have some really broken Stands. Stairway to Heaven destroyed the universe (Created a new one after that) and Gold Experience Requiem has casuality manipulation.

Originally posted by Roosuble
Meliodas sama

Meliodas is my favorite current shounen main but he doesn't stand a chance against anyone listed on this thread.

Well, since the thread is specifically anime, and not manga, I'll just bring up that Buuhan in the DBZ anime was capable of destroying, "all of reality", by screaming.

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/HaruhiSuzumiya.jpg

1.

http://i.imgur.com/1btTjNKl.jpg

2.

http://i.imgur.com/ru7gG48l.jpg

3.

http://i.imgur.com/TnqyzYsl.jpg

4.

http://i.imgur.com/J7eobC1l.jpg

5.

http://i.imgur.com/B2LkUTvl.jpg

In that order.

Originally posted by Astner

2.

http://i.imgur.com/ru7gG48l.jpg
lol'd

Originally posted by Astner
1.

http://i.imgur.com/1btTjNKl.jpg

2.

http://i.imgur.com/ru7gG48l.jpg

3.

http://i.imgur.com/TnqyzYsl.jpg

4.

http://i.imgur.com/J7eobC1l.jpg

5.

http://i.imgur.com/B2LkUTvl.jpg

In that order.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Well, since the thread is specifically anime, and not manga, I'll just bring up that Buuhan in the DBZ anime was capable of destroying, "all of reality", by screaming.


No..........

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Well, since the thread is specifically anime, and not manga, I'll just bring up that Buuhan in the DBZ anime was capable of destroying, "all of reality", by screaming.



Chousin can and have undone that type of thing. Also they can't fully manifest for similar reasons.

Originally posted by Q99
Chousin can and have undone that type of thing. Also they can't fully manifest for similar reasons.
Choushin are 22 Universes strong.

Originally posted by Q99
Chousin can and have undone that type of thing. Also they can't fully manifest for similar reasons.

Yeah. And Base Vegetto was stronger than Buuhan. Not to mention how high you could scale GT from there.

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
No..........

Do you want me to post the scene?

All of reality? No...not even close.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Yeah. And Base Vegetto was stronger than Buuhan. Not to mention how high you could scale GT from there.


was it destroying all of reality or just opening up different dimensional doors..... plus it was filler

Originally posted by jmoul
Basically as the title says. Who is the most powerful/dangerous/deadly anime character (can be antagonists or protagonists)?

Hibino Hareluya from "Hareluya II Boy."

Originally posted by yungz22
was it destroying all of reality or just opening up different dimensional doors..... plus it was filler

Um, destroying reality through collapsing dimensions STILL equals destroying reality. No one complains when the Chousin state shit like that.

And do you even know what filler is? It literally lasted like five minutes. That's not even considerable as filler, you idiot. That's anime cannon. And this is an anime thread.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Um, destroying reality through collapsing dimensions STILL equals destroying reality. No one complains when the Chousin state shit like that.

And do you even know what filler is? It literally lasted like five minutes. That's not even considerable as filler, you idiot. That's anime cannon. And this is an anime thread.
The Chousin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DBZ

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
The Chousin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DBZ

Buuhan >= The Chousin.

I can show the scene, if need be.

They are both strong enough to destroy all of reality simply by screaming, making them roughly equal.

And Base Vegetto was equal to Buuhan, since this IS the anime we're talking about.

Go home you are both drunk and high.....

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Go home you are both drunk and high.....

Irrelevant.

Nice argument though, I accept your concession.

Argument is Buu gets stomped by Supermans Cape lol nothing dbz has is up to even Universe/Galaxy/Solar System levels.

Thinking anyone of the Dbz cast last than more than a milliseconds against the God tiers of Tenchi Muyo.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Um, destroying reality through collapsing dimensions STILL equals destroying reality. No one complains when the Chousin state shit like that.

And do you even know what filler is? It literally lasted like five minutes. That's not even considerable as filler, you idiot. That's anime cannon. And this is an anime thread.


lol filler is anime cannon regardless of how long it was....but ok

Originally posted by SquallX
Thinking anyone of the Dbz cast last than more than a milliseconds against the God tiers of Tenchi Muyo.
Lol

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Argument is Buu gets stomped by Supermans Cape lol nothing dbz has is up to even Universe/Galaxy/Solar System levels.

http://www.dbz.tv/watching/dragonball-z-episode-255/

About 18 minutes into the episode, Dende states that Buu will "destroy all of creation!", if he continues ripping through dimensions.

Kibito-shin also states something similar, and Vegetto states, "Has he gone mad? He's gonna destroy everything, if he keeps this up!", before he tore through his barrier WITH A SINGLE PUNCH.

Universe+ punch > All of Superman's showings.

And Btw, when did this even become about Superman?

The argument I was making is that Buuhan >= Chousin, which I have just proven. And Vegetto in base was equal to Buuhan, making him 50X stronger than him in SSJ1. In other words, 50X stronger than the Chousin.

wank

Originally posted by yungz22
wank



lol, nice job at trying to rationalize this.

I'm right, you're wrong.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta


lol, nice job at trying to rationalize this.

I'm right, you're wrong.


i have nothing to be wrong or right about i didnt even declare an arguement

Omega wank achieved
#ThoseAreHyperboleStatementsByACharacter

Superman still solos.

So everyone is in agreement that Broly's power is maximum right?
Cool

Broly >>>> DBZ

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Omega wank achieved
#ThoseAreHyperboleStatementsByACharacter

Superman still solos.

A hyperbole is an exaggeration, you idiot. Why would Dende, or Kibito-shin, OR VEGETTO, exaggerate about how strong/dangerous Buuhan was?

You're an idiot.

Buuhan solo's every Superman there is. Cosmic armor included.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
A hyperbole is an exaggeration, you idiot. Why would Dende, or Kibito-shin, OR VEGETTO, exaggerate about how strong/dangerous Buuhan was?

You're an idiot.

Buuhan solo's every Superman there is. Cosmic armor included.
>Didn't do it
>Character statement
Yeah you are a retard lol Exaggeration/wanking achieved and also
Dead Superman > Dbz.

Beerus is far stronger than Buu, and Beerus used up all his energy in one solar system level attack. Z alone can destroy DBZ.

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Choushin are 22 Universes strong.

22 dimensions strong.

The main Tenchiverse, War on Geminar, Z's universe, and both universes in Duel! are all 3 dimensional universes. We haven't even really seen the higher ones.


Originally posted by SSJGGogeta

About 18 minutes into the episode, Dende states that Buu will "destroy all of creation!", if he continues ripping through dimensions.

Note, a DBZ universe is just four galaxies.



Nah, not even close. The Chousin have created many universes- more than Dragonball *has*, and can destroy them just by existing in them unrestrained. Not powering up or screaming like Buuhan, their higher dimensional forms on their own, will destroy a universe, while just standing there.


The ability to destroy everything in the DBZ multiverse is, literally, less than the Chousin have done.


Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Yeah. And Base Vegetto was stronger than Buuhan. Not to mention how high you could scale GT from there.

Being tens or thousands or hundreds of thousands times Buuhan is still less than creating a multiverse much larger than all of DBZ's multiverses. Simply put, nothing in DBZ can be big enough to take on the chousin, as they have used more power than exists in the DBZ multiverse.


Then you get into things like time-travel and control. DB character just have power. Chousin and even some lesser beings like Z can do stuff like rewind time, grab people from the future, and so on.

Originally posted by Q99
22 dimensions strong.

The main Tenchiverse, War on Geminar, Z's universe, and both universes in Duel! are all 3 dimensional universes. We haven't even really seen the higher ones.

At least 22 dimensions. The hyperdimension exceeds 22-D space, the Choushin exceed the hyperdimension, and Kami Tenchi exceeds the Choushin.

Originally posted by Kosmic King
At least 22 dimensions. The hyperdimension exceeds 22-D space, the Choushin exceed the hyperdimension, and Kami Tenchi exceeds the Choushin.


Yes.

Or to put it another way- yelling that rips open a pocket dimension and potentially threatens a universe is chump change. While DB stuff is quite impressive by the standards of single-universe Tenchi stuff, Chousin are on a vastly larger scale.

Let me remind everyone of what was stated at the start of this thread:

Originally posted by jmoul
The only series I would say to leave out is Dragonball (and its branch-offs) because those characters are just too over-powered.

there should be a show called attack of the dbz wankers

Originally posted by Q99
22 dimensions strong.
Based on what?

There is no specific number of dimensions mentioned in the series. We do however know that every "dimension" is supervised by a dimensional supervisor. The "3rd dimension" is supervised by D-3, the "4th dimension" is supervised by D-4 and so on.

And we're only introduced to 8 of them, D-3 to D-11. In fact here is the scene from Tenchi Muyo Ryō-Ōki episode 19 with every line of dialogue included.

http://i.imgur.com/fN0d8rim.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/t938Bw5m.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/1mQenqam.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DIiVgwPm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/CM2h1Qsm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/M5vOzvdm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cJrev8em.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Najgn3Rm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/ydqW1qjm.jpg

Originally posted by Q99
The main Tenchiverse, War on Geminar, Z's universe, and both universes in Duel! are all 3 dimensional universes.
But there is no evidence for that they are canon to the Ryō-Ōki setting.

Originally posted by Q99
Note, a DBZ universe is just four galaxies.
The four quadrants of the universes were never referred to as galaxies in the manga; and in the anime kita no ginga literally translates to either north galaxy or north galaxies.

Originally posted by Q99
Nah, not even close. The Chousin have created many universes
You don't know that. Dragon Ball has twelve universes, the hyper-dimensions is a collection of 8 or 11 universes (called dimensions).

Originally posted by Q99
The ability to destroy everything in the DBZ multiverse is, literally, less than the Chousin have done.
No it's not. We have no idea what effort the Chōshin put into the created the hyper-dimensions or if they could destroy it. We know that they could destroy the "3rd dimension" but that's it.

Originally posted by Q99
Chousin and even some lesser beings like Z can do stuff like rewind time, grab people from the future, and so on.
When did the Chōshin or even Z rewind time?

Insane BRS can probably kill anything here.

Originally posted by Astner
But there is no evidence for that they are canon to the Ryō-Ōki setting.


The four quadrants of the universes were never referred to as galaxies in the manga; and in the anime kita no ginga literally translates to either north galaxy or north galaxies.


You don't know that. Dragon Ball has twelve universes, the hyper-dimensions is a collection of 8 or 11 universes (called dimensions).


No it's not. We have no idea what effort the Chōshin put into the created the hyper-dimensions or if they could destroy it. We know that they could destroy the "3rd dimension" but that's it.


When did the Chōshin or even Z rewind time?
Dude in Tenchi Muyo they have 22-universes.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
Let me remind everyone of what was stated at the start of this thread:

Yea, ironically, they're not even near the top contenders.

I mean, aside from the Tenchi stuff, the Lord of Nightmares is an infinite sea of chaos who's made a number of universes. Infinite chaos is fairly hard to beat.


Originally posted by Astner
Based on what?

There is no specific number of dimensions mentioned in the series.

The number of dimensions is based on the number of "Ds" we see.

Note that it's explicit that lower dimensional beings can't comprehend higher ones.

Indicating that when talking dimensions it's talking, y'know, actual dimensions. Length, width, heights, that sort of thing.

As for actual universes, here's a screenshot for you:
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140519234320/anime-characters-fight/ru/images/5/59/Chous1.png

Mentioning both higher levels, and that the chousin exist beyond them. And infinitely-linked universes.


They've also existing for infinite time, in their own words.


Originally posted by Astner
But there is no evidence for that they are canon to the Ryō-Ōki setting.

Yes they are. Z's dimension is *in* that series. War in Geminar stars Tenchi's brother. Word-of-director is that Zinv from Duel is the counterpart of the Idol from Tenchi GXP, where Tenchi/Ryoko/etc. show up.



The anime definitely took the stance of one each. Manga, sure, may be slightly unclear, but semantic ambiguity isn't all that strong an argument when there's no indication of more than one. Not that, of course, it matters in the slightest here.


I mean, the two interpretations for Tenchi are either 22 or infinite universes, and considering that the series actually does seem to use dimensions in the spacial sense rather than the universe sense, and infinite was mentioned, the latter's actually more likely.




They created it, meaning they created all the energy within it.




Z reached into the future to get the Counteractor, who is Sasami/Ayeka's mother driven mad by immortality caused by the chousin's meddling.

After Z died, Tokimi recreated him and sent him to a different time where he could be happy.


Hm, come to think of it, I'm not sure who rewound time at the end of OAV 3... time got rewound and events happened different, which was, iirc, Tokimi's doing, as when she returns later in the last episode cleaning up the timeline was her given reason what she was doing.

Someone else was narrating the choushin lol.....

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Dude in Tenchi Muyo they have 22-universes.

Word of god clearly states that there are many universes created by the gods as experiments, and the Choushin themselves stated that they made infinite experiments/universes.

http://s7.postimg.org/9ihty6xln/Infinite_experiments.png http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4544/tenchimuyoryoohkioav3ep.jpg

Originally posted by Astner
Based on what?

There is no specific number of dimensions mentioned in the series. We do however know that every "dimension" is supervised by a dimensional supervisor. The "3rd dimension" is supervised by D-3, the "4th dimension" is supervised by D-4 and so on.

And we're only introduced to 8 of them, D-3 to D-11. In fact here is the scene from Tenchi Muyo Ryō-Ōki episode 19 with every line of dialogue included.

http://i.imgur.com/t938Bw5m.jpg

In that very image, you can see 22 Dimensional Guardians.

Originally posted by Kosmic King
Word of god clearly states that there are many universes created by the gods as experiments, and the Choushin themselves stated that they made infinite experiments/universes.

http://s7.postimg.org/9ihty6xln/Infinite_experiments.png http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4544/tenchimuyoryoohkioav3ep.jpg



In that very image, you can see 22 Dimensional Guardians.
1. First scan doesnt mean anything....
2. Fan made forum lol.
3. k? doesnt change the fact its has 22 universes

SS4 Gogeta

SS4 Gogeta like SSBG Goku cant take a laser lel

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
SS4 Gogeta like SSBG Goku cant take a laser lel

I don't think you've actually watched any of Dragon Ball.

Why do people hype DBZ so much?

Dbz is a weak verse in the schemes of things. Hell, they don't even have an omnipotent being.

I can name so many singular characters that would destroy the Dbz verse it's not even funny.

Originally posted by SquallX
Why do people hype DBZ so much?

Dbz is a weak verse in the schemes of things. Hell, they don't even have an omnipotent being.

I can name so many singular characters that would destroy the Dbz verse it's not even funny.

I think the population that bitches about DBZ megafans is bigger than the group of hypers itself.

In fact they piss people off more I think.

Regardless there are too many omnipotent (whatever that means) beings in anime for Dragon Ball Z characters to make this so. Yeah.

Originally posted by Kosmic King
Beerus is far stronger than Buu, and Beerus used up all his energy in one solar system level attack. Z alone can destroy DBZ.

But that's just hater bullshit.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
I think the population that bitches about DBZ megafans is bigger than the group of hypers itself.

In fact they piss people off more I think.

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
1. First scan doesnt mean anything....
2. Fan made forum lol.
3. k? doesnt change the fact its has 22 universes

They made infinite experiments, and each experiment is explicitly an entire universe. It's not a fan forum, it's a direct author comment from an interview printed in a magazine. The 22 dimensions refer to higher spatial dimensions (which exceeds 22).

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
But that's just hater bullshit.

Not really, the Japanese dub clearly states solar system.

Originally posted by Kosmic King
Not really, the Japanese dub clearly states solar system.

Beerus wouldn't be out of energy. Unless you're one of the people who thinks Beerus was serious about being to tired to blow up earth. In which case good luck functioning in social situations.

ALso isn't he blowing up suns for shits and giggles in this new movie?

Originally posted by BeyonderGod

3. k? doesnt change the fact its has 22 universes


Not according to the quote from the show I posted.

Mind you, 22 still puts it rather high up in contention, you know? That's the low end interpretation.

"Either 22 or Infinite" is not bad standing ^^


Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
I think the population that bitches about DBZ megafans is bigger than the group of hypers itself.



Really, my question is why it's even being brought up here to begin with, y'know?

Originally posted by Q99

Really, my question is why it's even being brought up here to begin with, y'know?

Because people been made to think its hip and cool to say "I love DBZ but the fanboys ruin it for me." Like seriously peeps sound like a broken record.

I haven't read the whole thread but I imagine DBZ was brought up in two ways.

1. (by the ignorant) SJJ 4 GOGETA

2. (or by those "totally hip" and "cool" people) *insert the vaguely omnipotent deity character here* would shit all over everyone in DBZ! (boom he just invited people to defend DBZ)

This is the Anime forum. Enjoy your stay and prepare to talk about the same thing over and over.

EDIT: Just went back to read it. jmoul set the scene up straight away in the first post by a reverse number 2.

Here is a respect thread for Tenchi Muyo: forums.spacebattles.com/threads/tenchi-muyo-respect.330368/

Originally posted by SquallX
Why do people hype DBZ so much?

Dbz is a weak verse in the schemes of things. Hell, they don't even have an omnipotent being.

I can name so many singular characters that would destroy the Dbz verse it's not even funny.

Calling a character omnipotent doesn't automatically make them omnipotent. And you can't have more than one omnipotent character in a series, since that makes them BOTH just nigh-omnipotent.

DBZ doesn't use stupid labels like that, but they have feats similar to even "omnipotent" characters. And again, since this is anime... Buuhan has a feat even better than most series "omnipotents". Hell, I remember someone being called omnipotent in Jojo's bizarre adventure. Characters are called that all the time, it doesn't mean anything more than Kami being "God" does.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Calling a character omnipotent doesn't automatically make them omnipotent. And you can't have more than one omnipotent character in a series, since that makes them BOTH just nigh-omnipotent.


I don't like using the word omnipotent because people think it implies lots of stuff beyond shown feats.

Like, if you have a series where a character creates a world and is beyond everything in it, people'll accept that as 'omnipotent,' but then if another series has a character who creates a much larger world, and then two other character stronger than that and equal to each other, many will think of them as 'nigh omnipotent' even when feats-wise they're higher than the one unchallenged world-creator.


And you can have a vastly strong universe maker who's called omnipotent, but never actually shows, say, time travel or time manipulation, and thus, doesn't have those abilities by the feats. People'll just assume that a universe maker can do anything even when there's no feats to show a particular ability.




Feats are feats, and some of the ones mentioned here have much higher feats than anyone in Z, including Buuhan.



Yes, the titles do get thrown around a lot, and indeed, are meaningless on their own.


That said, the ability to rip space and threaten a universe is something that a lot of characters in other things surpass. Buuhan, Beerus, SSJ4 Gogeta, none of them are remotely in contention for the title of strongest.

1. Elder God Demonbane
2. Kami Tenchi
3. Lord of Nightmares
4. The Choushin
5. Dragon God

Originally posted by Q99
Not according to the quote from the show I posted.

Mind you, 22 still puts it rather high up in contention, you know? That's the low end interpretation.

"Either 22 or Infinite" is not bad standing ^^

Never stated it was a bad standing its people take things out of context as i watched the series i heard 22-Universes and 22-Dimesions which to my knowledge its Multi-Universe level creation.....and they state infinite alot but shown it seems not even when Z was shown we seen the Chousin gets handled casually.

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Never stated it was a bad standing its people take things out of context as i watched the series i heard 22-Universes and 22-Dimesions which to my knowledge its Multi-Universe level creation.....and they state infinite alot but shown it seems not even when Z was shown we seen the Chousin gets handled casually.

The Chousin were explicitly not fully manifesting because they were too big for the 3rd dimension and would cause mass destruction. Z brought in the Counteractor which is basically the anti-chousin response of the dimension, and even then, they *could've* defeated it but only at the cost of killing those present, which would've defeated the entire purpose since they can't perfectly re-create Z and Tenchi like they can everything else.

Alot of limits.....

Originally posted by BeyonderGod
Alot of limits.....


Sure, limits that were mostly self-imposed. Were it not for the one factor (cannot re-create the ability to manifest LHWs- note, this factor used to not exist in any universe until they ran their countless-universe experiment to *make* it happen, to specifically create something new), they could've wiped the universe and re-created it no problem. And the other primarily limit is 'simply being full self too big for universe, would destroy it.' Which is normally not a problem with their ability to undo that.


There's a silly brain-bug that some people have where they think that someone without explicit limits and less shown scale is better than someone with a limit or two but much more shown scale.


They're way bigger and more powerful than any mono universal power, and even some multiversal powers.

Ok