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New 52 gear but Hawkman is composite so Strength/speed feats from post/pre crisis are allowed.

Morals are on, random encounter.

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Takes place^^^

Hawkman is confusing to me since new 52. Some people argue Nth metal armor or say it was a one time deal...

The Hawkman i'm familiar with would make this a fun fight but ultimately lose...

Namor rapes the absolute shit out Hawkman.

I don't understand what you mean by "one time deal"

He has done some stuff once with his nth metal but he has had nth metal his entire time the new 52.

Hawkman has a ridiculous healing factor to the point where he can tank hits from Wonder woman, Aquaman, Shaggy Man and Blockbuster. He is more than equipped to be in this fight and making him composite makes this mighty fun to argue. I think I am going to take Hawkman. From what I have seen he is faster than Namor and can tank whats thrown at him.

Originally posted by Mindset
Namor rapes the absolute shit out Hawkman.

No he does not. Hawkman can easily hold his own in this fight.

Originally posted by IronMikeTython
No he does not. Hawkman can easily hold his own in this fight. Namor is better than HM in every way.

Originally posted by Mindset
Namor is better than HM in every way.

Not in healing and not in speed. Hawkman is also more skilled and has better weaponry.

This is composite Hawkman whom dodges sniper bullets and is able to tag Johny Quick a flash level character....

Hawkman is strong enough to hurt post crisis Wonder Woman with just his fists and knock out Despero's teeth.

Hawkman.

Originally posted by Mindset
Namor rapes the absolute shit out Hawkman.

New 52 Hawkman has taken blows from both WW and Aquaman. As well as Frankenstein. Namor isn't stomping.

The fact that some people think Namor stomps is embarrassing.

It wouldnt be a stomp. It'd be a fun fight. Back and forth, trash talking, probably bloody, too.

Namor

Originally posted by abhilegend
Namor

Kind of surprised by abhi's pick.

i take Hawkman for the majority...

Anyone want to debate?

Yes. Based off what?

Originally posted by IronMikeTython
i take Hawkman for the majority...

Anyone want to debate?
We already are.

Hawkman will likely out fly Namor. His weapons will give Namor pause, wielded by legit strong man, and HMs healing factor will keep him in the fight. But none of that will get him the win on a class 90-100 Namor.

Originally posted by carver9
Yes. Based off what?

Hawkman is hard to put down, tanking hits from Wonder Woman and Aquaman as well as many durability feats in post crisis. Hawkman has far superior equipment and can harm Namor(he was able to harm despero whom was taking on 3 superman level characters.)

HM is also faster, dodging sniper bullets from behind and having multiple bullet timing feats. Namor has not done too much in the way of speed.

Hawkman can hang in through the initial barrage and then deal out hits too heavy for fishsticks.

(want scans of what I cited just ask)

why do you think namor wins?

Originally posted by riv6672
We already are.

Hawkman will likely out fly Namor. His weapons will give Namor pause, wielded by legit strong man, and HMs healing factor will keep him in the fight. But none of that will get him the win on a class 90-100 Namor.

Pause is not all it will give him, Hawkman has hurt post crisis WW with just his fists.

I don't think the jobber known as Namor can handle that, I mean spidey put him on his arse.

Anyway this is not debating(yet), it is people stating who wins without even stating reasoning.

The way this post is set up it makes me think I have written more than shows up. It ruins the overall layout of my posts. I will need to adjust....

Also Hawkman has done his fair share of jobbing. But Composite allows me to use the high end feats from all versions

Originally posted by IronMikeTython
Pause is not all it will give him, Hawkman has hurt post crisis WW with just his fists.

I don't think the jobber known as Namor can handle that, I mean spidey put him on his arse.

Anyway this is not debating(yet), it is people stating who wins without even stating reasoning.
I gave you my reasoning.
If you dont agree with it, i cant help that.
At least i did more than just say:



Again, cant help it if you dont agree.

Okay, you're reasoning is not good enough. Namor being class 90-100 does not come close to winning him this fight against someone who is faster, has better weaponry, is more skilled and has an insane healing factor...

Originally posted by IronMikeTython
Okay, you're reasoning is not good enough.
Oh. In that case...

...Namor.

Originally posted by IronMikeTython
Hawkman is hard to put down, tanking hits from Wonder Woman and Aquaman as well as many durability feats in post crisis. Hawkman has far superior equipment and can harm Namor(he was able to harm despero whom was taking on 3 superman level characters.)

HM is also faster, dodging sniper bullets from behind and having multiple bullet timing feats. Namor has not done too much in the way of speed.

Hawkman can hang in through the initial barrage and then deal out hits too heavy for fishsticks.

(want scans of what I cited just ask)

why do you think namor wins?

Don't think your fts are enough. Withstanding hits from top tiers is an average for Namor whereas it seems like a high showing for Hawk. Speed will not be an issue here, at all. Namor is physically above Hawkman and I'm basing this off of his fights along with his lifting fts. Everything. He has fought and defeated Classic Hulk, defeated Abomination, held off Immortal Herc, stalemated Voided Sentry, worked Wonderman, Ares, and Ms. Marvel at the same time, fought Thor, Black Bolt evenly; all of his fts are solid whereas you're basing your argument off of Hawkman withstanding a punch from Wondy and Aquaman. That's nice and all but that isn't enough. Who has he defeated?

Well now that you bring that up.....

Was talking to riv, I will respond to you carver9

ugh who is this clown? He is seriously saying Namor stalemated sentry? Namor did not land a single punch in that fight, he got thrown around the city, sure its impressive he did not die but he did nothing. You call that a stalemate? That is just sad.

Sure he defeated classic Hulk, he is nowhere near that level nowadays.I will respond to the rest of your garbage in a minute.

Originally posted by IronMikeTython
ugh who is this clown? He is seriously saying Namor stalemated sentry? Namor did not land a single punch in that fight, he got thrown around the city, sure its impressive he did not die but he did nothing. You call that a stalemate? That is just sad.

Sure he defeated classic Hulk, he is nowhere near that level nowadays.I will respond to the rest of your garbage in a minute.

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Here is the fight. Namor was ok afterwards. Didn't suffer any damage and held his own.

First of all that is not the full fight, second Namor did not touch Sentry once. How is that a stalemate? Being thrown around the city and hit by someone without ever hitting them back. Are you joking? Am I being trolled? Does anybody else see this? Lol!

Originally posted by IronMikeTython
First of all that is not the full fight, second Namor did not touch Sentry once. How is that a stalemate? Being thrown around the city and hit by someone without ever hitting them back. Are you joking? Am I being trolled? Does anybody else see this? Lol!

No one said he won the fight but the fight never ended. Hawkman would not have lasted near as long. You're saying I'm trolling but you are using Hawkman withstanding a punch from Wonder Woman and Aquaman as a means of winning this fight. Now THAT'S laughable.

Namor is inconsistent durability wise as well, Superior spiderman put him on his arse and Luke cage made him bleed underwater.

Originally posted by carver9
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/101942/1981051-1.jpg
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Here is the fight. Namor was ok afterwards. Didn't suffer any damage and held his own.

He wasn't even Voided out in that fight mate.

I stated other feats and have not even posted my counter argument yet. Ignoring things, lying and possibly trolling does not win you debates.

You said he stalemated him? He did not, he got his arse kicked, he did not stalemate anyone.

Also agree with one_angry_scot

Do you just make up whatever suits your argument?

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
He wasn't even Voided out in that fight mate.

Not Voided but didn't Void had some type of control over him? Wasn't your standard Bob.

Originally posted by IronMikeTython
I stated other feats and have not even posted my counter argument yet. Ignoring things, lying and possibly trolling does not win you debates.

You said he stalemated him? He did not, he got his arse kicked, he did not stalemate anyone.

Better word should've been endured. Guess we see stalemate as something different. Now what has Hawkman done?

This is a very close fight, Namor is a hell of an adversary but I feel Hawkman will climb through early adversity and take the victory. I am going to show off some key areas that I feel will Win Hawkman this fight.

First off is durability:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3258643-justice+league+dark+(2011-)+023-002.jpg

Here is him tanking a hit from Wonder woman whom is possessed by pandoras box. Hawkman has also Tanked hits from Aquaman in the new 52 and Post crisis. I don't see Namor putting him down before he gets put down himself. Hawkmans healing factor and overall durability will play a large part in him staying in this fight and winning.

Speed:

Namor has not done too much in the way of speed, he has dodged an attack at over the speed of sound once but that is a really old feat. Namor did blitz wolverine before but Logan was not expecting it, still impressive yet I feel Hawkman still outclasses him in this area. Hawkman has a far larger array of speed feats than Namor and better feats as well.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-37-02.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/ShadowWarofHawkman01-05.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman04-04.jpg

Above are multiple scans of him dodging gun fire, it also shows just how reactive his wings are and superior flight will play a part in this battle as well.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Identity_Crisis_02_Page_04.jpg

Hawkman's sight and reactions are so keen he can see wally west vibrating so fast he is invisible to everyone elses eyes.

Hawkman has done much more such as Dodging sniper bullets and more impressively fighting Lobo whom has shown to be on par with Supergirl in speed.

Strength/weaponry

I feel that Hawkman can finish Namor off, whether it be a mace of a cutting weapon Nth metal will prevail.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hawkmanv217-04ocdhorus.jpg

Strong enough to lift up a solid steel radio tower.

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Here he hurts Wonder Woman bare handed.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/JLA70_VirtueVice.jpg

^knocks team busting desperos tooth out.

Fights:

I am not going to post any full fights but I will site a few, some key fights that I feel help secure the win are his fight againt Black Adam and Johnny quick. Black adam outclassed him in the end but Hawkman was able to stay in the fight, land some hits and tank some from teth. Hawkman was still standing after the encounter. Hawkman fought Johnny quick whom is a flash lvl speedster, they fought in pre crisis but the fight was also talked referenced in post crisis. Hawkman was able to land hits on the speedster and I feel this helps to show the speed advantage hawkman has over namor.

In the end it will be grit, equipment and speed that seal the deal for Hawkman. I don't see Namor putting him down.

Can't tell if serious. Those fts sucks.

I don't see anything you brought up as too problematic for HM, Namor did fight ares, wonder man and ms marvel but it was individually, they did not come at him all at once. Sure he fought classic Hulk but at the time everyone was fighting everyone, Namor fought spiderman in classic days. Namor is very inconsistent, he more recently has been beaten by the Thing(I do not agree with the showing) been made to bleed by Luke Cage and been knocked on his rear end by Superior Spiderman.

I don't see Namor finishing the fight, Carter is too relentless.

ALSO Wonder man beat Namor before, if I recall correctly Namor was distracted by someone before he got knocked out BUT Namor commented on Wonder man being superior before he lost the fight in a sketchy way.

Just saying Namor can't actually handle Wonder man, Ms Marvel and Ares at the same time.

Some of the feats are lackluster I will admit but most of them are pretty good feats. Holding your own in a fight with Black Adam sucks? Hurting Wonder woman and knocking out a team busters teeth suck?

Tanking a hit from a bloodlusted Wonder Woman who makes kryptonians bleed sucks?

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman12-22.jpg

Slamming a huge dragon

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman11P18.jpg

Lifting a large dinosaur

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Catching a car thrown across the city by grundy.

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Here is him hurting magog^

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Above is a fight with Black adam, Hawkman is able to fight at the speed of teth and tanks multiple hits along with dishing some of his own. It is impressive, Hawkman does not win by any means but he stays in the fight for a while and when it is over he is left standing.

Happy? More impressive strength/striking/fighting feats.

Now how does namor win? Besides the false "stalemates"?

I will post in a min.

Pew!

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/ShadowWarofHawkman03-19.jpg

Theoretically he should still have access to pre-52 weapons

Its KM, I have been using scans from your respect thread btw(except for new 52) great thread with a lot of great feats in the same place!

Been trying to use non tech feats as to not get into the standard equipment argument....

Been arguing basically mace and Nth, kind of new 52 equipment...

My respect thread is very outdated. I didn't include half of the pre-52 feats. Lots I missed,as when I was doing it photobucket became awful so gave up

It is a good thread and has enough to prove superiority over fish sticks. I have not even started on new 52 feats yet.

Originally posted by carver9
Not Voided but didn't Void had some type of control over him? Wasn't your standard Bob.

The Void didn't have control over him in the whole Utopia arc in any way.

I think what you're getting at is the serum Robert was fed was to make it easier for the Void to emerge. Robert wasn't controlled by the Void though at all. It's just means that Robert was weaker mentally so the Void din't have as hard a time to take over Robert. As we seeing SIEGE the Void could maintain himself to an extent but nor fully as Robert still held some control over himself. Plus as we know when it is the Void as he/it speaks in black speech bubbles.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
The Void didn't have control over him in the whole Utopia arc in any way.

I think what you're getting at is the serum Robert was fed was to make it easier for the Void to emerge. Robert wasn't controlled by the Void though at all. It's just means that Robert was weaker mentally so the Void din't have as hard a time to take over Robert. As we seeing SIEGE the Void could maintain himself to an extent but nor fully as Robert still held some control over himself. Plus as we know when it is the Void as he/it speaks in black speech bubbles.

Confused by this post but you said Void had 'some' control. That's all I needed to know.

Originally posted by IronMikeTython
It is a good thread and has enough to prove superiority over fish sticks. I have not even started on new 52 feats yet.

Have not forgot about you. On a work call. Will post fts in a min.

Originally posted by carver9
Confused by this post but you said Void had 'some' control. That's all I needed to know.

Well you haven't understood my point then as my comment about Void having control wasn't talking about Utopia.

When Sentry speaks in White speech bubbles it's Sentry, when Black speech bubbles appear it is the Void. If you know the Sentry you know that he is scared of unleashing too much power because of the Void.

And if you read Sentry's newer runs you would know that Osborne intentionally gave him a serum that weakened his hold that he had over the Void. So that if the Void wanted to take over his body and use it for nefarious purposes (or Osborne's) then it would be so.

I don't know why you're misconstruing my points.

You shouldn't say "This post confuses me me" but then pick a part that fits with your vein of thought as that shows you're contradicting yourself.

If you need clarification ask me about what I meant but don't say it tells you all you need to know if you don't even understand my post to start with.

Sigh

I have a feeling he loves picking and choosing and even making up things that fit his view. Namor "stalemated" sentry, LOL! He also said I only stated two feats when I stated many before I even put out scans.

Originally posted by IronMikeTython
I have a feeling he loves picking and choosing and even making up things that fit his view. Namor "stalemated" sentry, LOL! He also said I only stated two feats when I stated many before I even put out scans.

Go back and read my posts and I said the fts you mentioned sucked for Hawkman.

Originally posted by carver9
Sigh

Why are you intentionally behaving like an arse Carver? What's your problem today?

Explain your problem with my post and I will help you. But I don't see the need for you to act like a child.

"Go back and read my posts and I said the fts you mentioned sucked for Hawkman."

You said a bunch of ignorant BS, including not even reading my posts. The feats I have posted in no way suck, how?

H

Just met this dude and im already done, I cited and showed multiple impressive feats, smh.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Why are you intentionally behaving like an arse Carver? What's your problem today?

Explain your problem with my post and I will help you. But I don't see the need for you to act like a child.

I'm not responding to this mess. When you calm down with the insults, Holla at me. That's the reason you received a sigh and here goes another one for ya.

SIGH.

Originally posted by IronMikeTython
"Go back and read my posts and I said the fts you mentioned sucked for Hawkman."

You said a bunch of ignorant BS, including not even reading my posts. The feats I have posted in no way suck, how?

H

You sited examples but they don't put him anywhere on Namor level.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm not responding to this mess. When you calm down with the insults, Holla at me. That's the reason you received a sigh and here goes another one for ya.

SIGH.

I guess I went a bit far and I apologize for that, I was annoyed by what you wrote but after I thought about what I wrote I was a bit agressive. But I didn't insult you in my first 2 posts.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Well you haven't understood my point then as my comment about Void having control wasn't talking about Utopia.

When Sentry speaks in White speech bubbles it's Sentry, when Black speech bubbles appear it is the Void. If you know the Sentry you know that he is scared of unleashing too much power because of the Void.

And if you read Sentry's newer runs you would know that Osborne intentionally gave him a serum that weakened his hold that he had over the Void. So that if the Void wanted to take over his body and use it for nefarious purposes (or Osborne's) then it would be so.

I don't know why you're misconstruing my points.

You shouldn't say "This post confuses me me" but then pick a part that fits with your vein of thought as that shows you're contradicting yourself.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
If you need clarification ask me about what I meant but don't say it tells you all you need to know if you don't even understand my post to start with.

Nothing in here is an insult. All I said was you probably misunderstood my post. I didn't insult you in any of these posts.

Since that is all sorted lets get to the original subject. What was it you misunderstood about my post?

What is Namor level? Getting put on his ass by superior spiderman, being beaten by thing, being bloodied by Luke Cage and overall jobbing. Hawkman is faster, has weapons that can hurt Namor, and has an insane healing factor along with many other factor.

You stated a few out of context feats for Namor, you have not done a thing to make an argument for him. Namor is powerful, don't get me wrong Hawkman does not take all rounds, I will give namor 2-3 but Hawkman takes a solid majority IMO.

YOU DID NOT READ MY COMMENTS, you showed this on the second page where before I posted actual feats you said I only stated two things, I stated many more feats but you apparently ignored it.

You have done nothing but spew Bias and turn down clearly impressive feats.

Bye, not worth my time.

Scot did not insult you originally, nice job justifying your sigh and overall whining...

Originally posted by IronMikeTython
What is Namor level? Getting put on his ass by superior spiderman, being beaten by thing, being bloodied by Luke Cage and overall jobbing. Hawkman is faster, has weapons that can hurt Namor, and has an insane healing factor along with many other factor.

You stated a few out of context feats for Namor, you have not done a thing to make an argument for him. Namor is powerful, don't get me wrong Hawkman does not take all rounds, I will give namor 2-3 but Hawkman takes a solid majority IMO.

YOU DID NOT READ MY COMMENTS, you showed this on the second page where before I posted actual feats you said I only stated two things, I stated many more feats but you apparently ignored it.

You have done nothing but spew Bias and turn down clearly impressive feats.

Bye, not worth my time.

Lol...you showed criticism towards the Sentry fight but bring up Hawkman fight against Adam when his beat down was bloody.

Why bring up a fight where he gets destroyed? Every fight I brought up was valid. We just do not see eye to eye on the word stalemate. Doesn't change what I said.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I guess I went a bit far and I apologize for that, I was annoyed by what you wrote but after I thought about what I wrote I was a bit agressive. But I didn't insult you in my first 2 posts.





Nothing in here is an insult. All I said was you probably misunderstood my post. I didn't insult you in any of these posts.

Since that is all sorted lets get to the original subject. What was it you misunderstood about my post?

You made your point, he fought a non void Sentry. Thanks for helping me with that.

Originally posted by carver9
You made your point, he fought a non void Sentry. Thanks for helping me with that.

Yeah but you said you was confused though right? Are you all cool with it now? It's just because you said 2 different things on both pages. I'm not sure if you understand it now or you just don't want to discuss it any longer.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Yeah but you said you was confused though right? Are you all cool with it now? It's just because you said 2 different things on both pages. I'm not sure if you understand it now or you just don't want to discuss it any longer.

Don't want to discuss this any further. I am taking your word for it though and using that fight as a non Voided out Sentry.

Originally posted by carver9
Don't want to discuss this any further. I am taking your word for it though and use that fight as a non Voided out Sentry.

Okay then, thanks for the reply.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...you showed criticism towards the Sentry fight but bring up Hawkman fight against Adam when his beat down was bloody.

Why bring up a fight where he gets destroyed? Every fight I brought up was valid. We just do not see eye to eye on the word stalemate. Doesn't change what I said.

First of all, this is a composite Hawkman. Second, Black Adam hits harder than that version of sentry from what I have seen. Black adam is literal superman level and Clark himself has stated he does not have to hold back against him. Hawkman took some good shots, got a couple of his own in and was left standing at the end. It is a good feat, nay a very good one considering teth's power level.

https://p.dreamwidth.org/ba9ae2ca289d/abload.de/img/superiorspider-manteamni1g.jpg

Hawkman can take hits from Black Adam, Namor gets knocked on his ass by superior spiderman.

Anyway you're ignoring other feats completely. Such as Hawkman tanking hits from a BLOODLUSTED Wonder Woman. I also showed Hawkman hurting Magog, knocking out the teeth of Despero(whom is a team buster and was putting a beating on 3 Superman Lvl beings), I showed speed feats as well such as Hawkman being able to see Wally west vibrating his molecules to the extent of invisibility.

If you think none of those scans are impressive than you're more biased than I already thought.

Well I already broke a promise to myself to not waste time with this and you, bye.

Here is the Black Adam fight.

Black Adam is destroying him.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/119238/3388384-adamhawk.jpg

Black Adam is still destroying him and decides to just fly off. Leave the nuisance on the ground.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/119238/3388385-adamhawk1.jpg

Hawkman sneak attacks him and the beating begins. One punch from Black Adam.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/119238/3388386-adamhawk2.jpg

Adam rips his wing off, punch in the face, punch in the chest.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/119238/3388387-adamhawk3.jpg

Grabs him. Talks and toss him like a child and then flies off.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/119238/3388388-adamhawk4.jpg

Ending results.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/119238/3388389-adamhawk5.jpg

Also, lol at the level of power you place Sentry at.

Again child, this is composite. And yes at the time sentry did not have as much striking power as post crisis Adam(especially because sentry holds back), and Namor's other more current showings do not agree with him being able to tank hits from Sentry(who is holding back to the heavy degree.)

And I see you're ignoring all the other feats like you love to do.

ALSO I ALREADY POSTED THE FIGHT, THIS PROVES EVEN FURTHER THAT YOU NEVER READ MY COMMENTS.

Broke my rule again, im such a sucker for trolls, I always feed them.

Originally posted by IronMikeTython
Again child, this is composite. And yes at the time sentry did not have as much striking power as post crisis Adam(especially because sentry holds back), and Namor's other more current showings do not agree with him being able to tank hits from Sentry(who is holding back to the heavy degree.)

And I see you're ignoring all the other feats like you love to do.

ALSO I ALREADY POSTED THE FIGHT, THIS PROVES EVEN FURTHER THAT YOU NEVER READ MY COMMENTS.

Broke my rule again, im such a sucker for trolls, I always feed them.

I will respond to those lame fts later. So what we got out of this is, Adam destroyed Hawkman and you post fts of him hurting or withstand a punch but nothing of wins against heavy hitters? With that said, Namor crushes him.

You do realize KM posted a feat of him putting down Aquaman?

Are you seriously trying to talk sh*t and saying that I did not post any feats of him beating high tiers? You did not either, you cited a few fights which were left open ended and you lied about one. Cool story...

Ugh, you are so good at sucking people in, you have truly mastered the art of trolling.

Namor wins

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Namor wins

Yes he does.

Guy who says spiderman could beat KK, your vote does not count

Originally posted by IronMikeTython
Guy who says spiderman could beat KK, your vote does not count

The webs can gum up herald level performance. I guess you didn't consider that when you called for a stomp. Hawkman isn't going to be hitting Namor as hard as he hit Teth, because Namor isn't a magical being, and the Nth metal isn't going to score as well against him as it would a magical construct or being. These are things that you should consider before making as strong of an argument as you did.

Originally posted by Stoic
The webs can gum up herald level performance. I guess you didn't consider that when you called for a stomp. Hawkman isn't going to be hitting Namor as hard as he hit Teth, because Namor isn't a magical being, and the Nth metal isn't going to score as well against him as it would a magical construct or being. These are things that you should consider before making as strong of an argument as you did.

I never used Hawkman vs Teth as a strength/damage output feat, I used it for speed and durability. Read next time. Also Hawkman knocked despero's teeth out, that is one of the damage output feats that I used along with hurting Wonder woman bare handed...

Originally posted by IronMikeTython
I never used Hawkman vs Teth as a strength/damage output feat, I used it for speed and durability. Read next time. Also Hawkman knocked despero's teeth out, that is one of the damage output feats that I used along with hurting Wonder woman bare handed...

Despero was also severely hurt by a shark. Not impressed. Hawkman is the one that has to step it up, let's not get it confused. Namor has a very strong track record against some pretty heavy hitters, and Hawkman is the under powered one here. Also we won't be discussing anything after this post Thingy. I'll make sure to bring your new sock account to Bada's attention. Consider yourself on ignore.

Originally posted by IronMikeTython
I never used Hawkman vs Teth as a strength/damage output feat, I used it for speed and durability. Read next time. Also Hawkman knocked despero's teeth out, that is one of the damage output feats that I used along with hurting Wonder woman bare handed... Agreed, Namor is not going to tank blows from Hawk as well as Diana did because he is not on that level of durability.

Namor wins. The arguments presented just means Hawkman is fighting an uphill battle here. In other words, Namor wins.

Stoic, you do realize in the fight that Hawkman knocks his teeth out despero is fighting a sh*t ton of superman level beings, right?

Dum

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Namor wins. The arguments presented just means Hawkman is fighting an uphill battle here. In other words, Namor wins. with everything Hawk brings to the table, Namor's only real chance of winning here is for the fight to take place in the water, MAYBE.................otherwise on land, he weakens the longer he is out of contact with water.

Originally posted by lawest9
with everything Hawk brings to the table, Namor's only real chance of winning here is for the fight to take place in the water, MAYBE.................otherwise on land, he weakens the longer he is out of contact with water.


Hawkman is smart and got out of fighting Aquaman underwater even though they were already underwater...

Namor has gone punch for punch with Hulk & Thor.

I like Hawkman character, but he is not beating someone like Namor.


Namor holds every physical advantage here.

Yo.

Originally posted by lawest9
with everything Hawk brings to the table, Namor's only real chance of winning here is for the fight to take place in the water, MAYBE.................otherwise on land, he weakens the longer he is out of contact with water.

IIRC, didnt they ignore away that weakness a long time ago??

I certainly havent seen it being a factor in *anything* over the last decade....




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