Hulk -Vs- Lobo

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Supermex
Who wins?
No Prep..
No B.F.R..





Hulk


Vs


Cls.Lobo




Fight takes place in Marvel NYC...

H2H only..

....

This is not (Dcnu Lobo)
Does anyone know if Dcnu Lobo was/is intended to be a gay character? I mean is the Dcnu version of Lobo Gay? I was wondering cus I haven't taken a gander at a Dcnu Lobo comic yet and his new look.. He looks thin, lean and clean cut like typical gay type non-bear look..


Who wins?

carver9
Lobo would do good but get overpowered in the end.

Supermex
Originally posted by carver9
Lobo would do good but get overpowered in the end.



Carve what Lobo you using?

I mean there is just version on him in pre-Dcnu right?

carver9
Originally posted by Supermex
Carve what Lobo you using?

I mean there is just version on him in pre-Dcnu right?

DCNU Lobo isn't ready for the Herald tier yet. Using the classic Pre Reboot version. The one we all know.

DarkSaint85
Lobo wins.

Supermex
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lobo wins.


Dorksaint I got Hulk favored in this fight, but Dont mean I'm right...


Why you feel Cls.Lobo beats Hulk ?

Golgo13
Lobo.

Supermex
Originally posted by Golgo13
Lobo.



I got Hulk favored here in good fight.. Why you feel Lobo beats him?

Golgo13
Cartoon physics ftw.

carver9
Lol...it's hilarious when you know who someone is going to vote for before clicking in a thread (including myself sometimes). What reasons are you giving Hulk the win Supreme?

Supermutant
Lobo

Supermex
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...it's hilarious when you know who someone is going to vote for before clicking in a thread (including myself sometimes). What reasons are you giving Hulk the win Supreme?



This is a pure h2h fight. Both heal well, but I think Lobo will fall to Hulks anger issues lol

Lobo will keep pushing Hulk buttons to the point that Lobo without knowing will then find himself outclassed/overpowered.

I will give Lobo credit thou, he will make it a fight before Hulk punts him to the moon jk

I maybe wrong

carver9
Originally posted by Supermex
This is a pure h2h fight. Both heal well, but I think Lobo will fall to Hulks anger issues lol

Lobo will keep pushing Hulk buttons to the point that Lobo without knowing will then find himself outclassed/overpowered.

I will give Lobo credit thou, he will make it a fight before Hulk punts him to the moon jk

I maybe wrong

Lobo is powerful but his cartoon fts means nothing, even if it wasn't just a fist cuff fight. Hulk overall fts are just a 100 times, even with Lobo cartoon fts.

Hulk is currently shaking continents and planets during his "serious" fist cuffs. I don't see Lobo hanging with that kind of power.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Lobo is powerful but his cartoon fts means nothing, even if it wasn't just a fist cuff fight. Hulk overall fts are just a 100 times, even with Lobo cartoon fts.

Hulk is currently shaking continents and planets during his "serious" fist cuffs. I don't see Lobo hanging with that kind of power.

Lobo is throwing suns around.

https://p.dreamwidth.org/8a1ce4520213/pics.livejournal.com/kamino_neko/pic/000r28qz

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/133524/2763791-2763211-78894_original_super.jpg

He also won a fighting contest whilst headless. Whereas, as we know, cutting Hulk's head off KOs him.

DarkSaint85
Other feats, which carver is allowing for some reason, as he believes Lobo's cartoon feats can be overpowered:

Physical damage? Ha!
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Lobo/lobobrains.jpg

Fighting headless:
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Lobo/loboheadless.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Lobo/loboheadless1.jpg

Lobo breaking the 4th wall, to ensure the story is written how he likes it:
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Lobo/lobo4thwallbreaking2.jpg

With thanks to EndlessMike.

Golgo13
When Lobo was reduced to a mere skeleton, he still continued to fight. Guy has crazy feats.

carver9
@Darksaint...

So Lobo can't be knocked out?

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
When Lobo was reduced to a mere skeleton, he still continued to fight. Guy has crazy feats.

Lol...there are a lot of people that can live through that and Hulk would still ko them.

relentless1
Hulk can't kill Lobo but he probably could KO him for a hard fought win

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lobo is throwing suns around.

https://p.dreamwidth.org/8a1ce4520213/pics.livejournal.com/kamino_neko/pic/000r28qz

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/133524/2763791-2763211-78894_original_super.jpg

He also won a fighting contest whilst headless. Whereas, as we know, cutting Hulk's head off KOs him.

laughing out loud

Threw a sun on a planet. Hell, did the sun even take up the city block? Huge sun.

Wait a minute. Are you really bringing up a Hulk from a different time zone? A weaker Hulk that isn't as powerful as his current self. You can do better than that Dark. Much better.

carver9
Originally posted by relentless1
Hulk can't kill Lobo but he probably could KO him for a hard fought win

Anyone in their right mind shouldn't believe Lobo could not get koed.

Golgo13
He can, but it takes A LOT. Sometimes he's damn near impossible to take down. Depends on the writer.

-K-M-
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/52%20Week%20020%202006%20Digital%20Monafekk-Empire%20014_zpsdmvdztza.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/52%20Week%20020%202006%20Digital%20Monafekk-Empire%20019_zpszdpiydbg.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/52%20Week%20020%202006%20Digital%20Monafekk-Empire%20020_zps4syewuyt.jpg

carver9
Hey Supermex. I think everyone here think you made a Hulk healing ft thread vs Lobo healing fts. You probably want to remake the Hulk vs Lobo thread.

Golgo13
Originally posted by -K-M-
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/52%20Week%20020%202006%20Digital%20Monafekk-Empire%20014_zpsdmvdztza.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/52%20Week%20020%202006%20Digital%20Monafekk-Empire%20019_zpszdpiydbg.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/52%20Week%20020%202006%20Digital%20Monafekk-Empire%20020_zps4syewuyt.jpg

thumb up Impressive.

-K-M-
Originally posted by carver9
Hey Supermex. I think everyone here think you made a Hulk healing ft thread vs Lobo healing fts. You probably want to remake the Hulk vs Lobo thread.

Your response in a nutshell...

http://ca.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2013929/rs_560x315-131029143655-babysinging3.gif

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
laughing out loud

Threw a sun on a planet. Hell, did the sun even take up the city block? Huge sun.

Wait a minute. Are you really bringing up a Hulk from a different time zone? A weaker Hulk that isn't as powerful as his current self. You can do better than that Dark. Much better.

A: we take characters at full capacity. Which includes Healing Factors.

B: different scenario to the Human Torch. Johnny has empty boasts, as proven by multiple scans. Please show ANY scan disproving Solaris' stellar mass, PLEASE. Also, I think you're getting confused between mass and size old friend. Totally different thing.

C: please show current Hulk coping with decapitation. I'm sure you can, right? Do better than my evidence. Show current Hulk and how he has fared with his head off. Don't show something else, show that specific piece of evidence.

Golgo13
Who are you going with, KM?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Hey Supermex. I think everyone here think you made a Hulk healing ft thread vs Lobo healing fts. You probably want to remake the Hulk vs Lobo thread.

I.e. you have nothing.

Supermex
Originally posted by Golgo13
He can, but it takes A LOT. Sometimes he's damn near impossible to take down. Depends on the writer.




Yea but it takes alot to k.o any super-brick

Golgo13
Originally posted by Supermex
Yea but it takes alot to k.o any super-brick

Lobo isn't just any super brick.

Supermex
Originally posted by -K-M-
Your response in a nutshell...

http://ca.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2013929/rs_560x315-131029143655-babysinging3.gif



lol



Anyways about this fight.. Its just a straight up H2H fight between 2 tough SOB's


Who wins?

Supermex
Originally posted by Golgo13
Lobo isn't just any super brick.




Neither is Hulk, Doomsday,Juggernaut, Hercules, Shaggy Man, Grundy f?!;k my fingers hurt but the point is they are all hard to put down. Is all I'm saying.



I tell you what.. When Supersex gets a hard on, its a Super-Brick 2 and very hard to put downwink

DarkSaint85
It gets worse if by classic Lobo, you mean this:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111120859/3139349-1495179-1493285_lobo00914clones4yv_super.jpg

-K-M-
Originally posted by Supermex
lol



Anyways about this fight.. Its just a straight up H2H fight between 2 tough SOB's


Who wins?

Really depends on the incarnation of Lobo. Some could make duplicates which was his equal, others could crush an entire city into a ball in a minute (literally).

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x296/acewasp23/scan0004.jpg

If your going by current Lobo (new52). Hulk wins pretty easily I'd imagine.

Supermex
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It gets worse if by classic Lobo, you mean this:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111120859/3139349-1495179-1493285_lobo00914clones4yv_super.jpg



lol no using that stupid power.. DC removed that from him after relizing how stupid it was..

Would make the fight unfair as well. Hulk vs a team of Lobos with equal power to himself lol


I think I heard DC comics fired the guy who wrote that into the Lobo stories. They were like wtf!!

carver9
Like Dark said, we aea taking these characters to the best of their abilities. Here we go.

Here we have Hulk durability withstanding an attack that was ripping reality apart. He is walking through it.

http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media-full/Hulk%20Fights%20T-Z/HulkvsU-Foes22.jpg.html

Hulk bracing the sun on his back and only falls when he is sliced by Corvus blade.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111190366/4243791-0924611004-34750.jpg

Hulk punched a being that had the power of an abstract inside of him to pieces.

http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media-full/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsOnslaught09.jpg.html

The Quintronic Man was designed to stand ANY pressure and any temperature in space. Guess who breaks through it.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c134/Cruzmaltino/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20JASON-WIN/th_T-IK-03-017.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c134/Cruzmaltino/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20JASON-WIN/th_T-IK-03-018.jpg

Hulk also breaks through the castles invulnerable walls when no-one else could: Not even BN with the Ebony Blade could breach.

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16636619_Indestructible_Hulk_13_008.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16636620_Indestructible_Hulk_13_009.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16636621_Indestructible_Hulk_13_010.jpg

In Betweener couldn't even hold Hulk and yes, he was at half power but even during this level of power he was fraying reality to pieces AND controlling the Phoenix and an IG user.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17094438/Longshot_Saves_The_Marvel_Universe_002-015.jpg.html

Reality.

http://s1007.photobucket.com/user/lgu88/media-full/dec4/longshot03d_zps46b998ba.jpg.html


Not done...

Juntai
Originally posted by Supermex
lol no using that stupid power.. DC removed that from him after relizing how stupid it was..

Would make the fight unfair as well. Hulk vs a team of Lobos with equal power to himself lol


I think I heard DC comics fired the guy who wrote that into the Lobo stories. They were like wtf!! They bring it back whenever they want to. lol. He had it taken from him a long time ago, then used it again several times years later.. Then lost it again. Then got it back, then that version may not have been the real Lobo, but one of his clones who still had the power.. Then. Well, you get the idea.

Supermex
Originally posted by Juntai
They bring it back whenever they want to. lol. He had it taken from him a long time ago, then used it again several times years later.. Then lost it again. Then got it back, then that version may not have been the real Lobo, but one of his clones who still had the power.. Then. Well, you get the idea.



lol!!

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Golgo13
When Lobo was reduced to a mere skeleton, he still continued to fight. Guy has crazy feats.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Lobo/loboregen7.jpg

DarkSaint85
Classic Lobo would also just use puppies to calm Hulk down, then kill him. /thread.

The Sorrow
Hulk stomps. Nothing Lobo can do to win.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Hulk stomps. Nothing Lobo can do to win.

4th wall breaking, weakness exploitation...why not?

carver9
laughing out loud

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
laughing out loud

? Puppies work very well. To the extent just being shown them reverts him...

carver9
Come on Dark. I just think you try so hard for the Hulk to lose that you don't look at the stuff you say. 4th wall Breaking? She Hulk and Deadpool has some of the most looney toon fts in comics and they would still get curbed by Hulk. I was expecting some combat showings. I wouldn't give Lobo the edge against any top tier tbh unless we are going to sit here and say his average is 4th wall breaking.

The Sorrow
4th wall breaking is not a valid superpower, and what weakness? Hulk has none.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Come on Dark. I just think you try so hard for the Hulk to lose that you don't look at the stuff you say. 4th wall Breaking? She Hulk and Deadpool has some of the most looney toon fts in comics and they would still get curbed by Hulk. I was expecting some combat showings. I wouldn't give Lobo the edge against any top tier tbh unless we are going to sit here and say his average is 4th wall breaking.

I also have Lobo 4th wall combat showings, which are far in excess of what Deadpool has (he doesn't directly influence the comic in the same way). She-Hulk, if given her 4th wall powers, would also stomp Hulk.

Did it happen? Yes.
In a canon comic? Yes.
Do they fight to the best of their abilities? Yes.

One of Lobo's abilities is 4th wall breaking. Even if you disregard his 'high end' showings, there is a world of difference between 'ignoring high end feats' and 'ignoring abilities'. They are two different things. It's like using Aquaman - but not allowing his TP. That is VERY different from allowing his high end TP feats, agreed?

Then under forum rules, they are admissible.

@Sorrow: Sorry, I missed the forum rule which said which powers were and were not valid. I can see Thought Robot Cosmic Armour Superman threads, and Ultra threads, though. But point me to the page where we list what abilities are and are not allowed.

Weakness: Puppies.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I also have Lobo 4th wall combat showings, which are far in excess of what Deadpool has (he doesn't directly influence the comic in the same way). She-Hulk, if given her 4th wall powers, would also stomp Hulk.

Did it happen? Yes.
In a canon comic? Yes.
Do they fight to the best of their abilities? Yes.

One of Lobo's abilities is 4th wall breaking. Even if you disregard his 'high end' showings, there is a world of difference between 'ignoring high end feats' and 'ignoring abilities'. They are two different things. It's like using Aquaman - but not allowing his TP. That is VERY different from allowing his high end TP feats, agreed?

Then under forum rules, they are admissible.

@Sorrow: Sorry, I missed the forum rule which said which powers were and were not valid. I can see Thought Robot Cosmic Armour Superman threads, and Ultra threads, though. But point me to the page where we list what abilities are and are not allowed.

Weakness: Puppies.

laughing out loud

DarkSaint85
You agree then?

I think you get confused with 'high end showings' and abilities. IF he has the ability, then we take the average showings of said ability.

If Superman has super strength, we take average showings of that super strength. We don't take his 'lifting infinite pages' feats.

If Hyperion has enhanced durability, we take average showings of his durability, but we do not take his 'surviving two universes colliding' feat as his average. 100% agree with that. 200%, actually.

What we do NOT do, which is what you're doing, is say Hyperion has no enhanced durability, or Superman has no super strength. It is an ability, that whilst they do not show it 100% of the time, they have. Unless of course it has been removed, or retconned.

So for example, Lobo's blood clone ability was removed. So depending on what you mean by 'classic Lobo', he either has or he does not have it. But unless you can show me somewhere it was removed or retconned, classic Lobo has all the abilities he has shown in canon comics.

Squirtle
Hulk wins, but would be an awesome fight big grin

carver9
@Darksaint...

Didn't read. All I know is, Darkseid tanked a 4th wall breaking punch right here.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/89742/2851419-2639741_lobo_vs_darkseid.jpg

Superman has also tanked a punch without budging from Lobo. DC must consider the 4th wall as not that great or the hero's that has endured said attacks as having untold durability. Either is laughable at best tbh.

carver9
Originally posted by Squirtle
Hulk wins, but would be an awesome fight big grin

A great fight. Would love to see it in a comic.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
@Darksaint...

Didn't read. All I know is, Darkseid tanked a 4th wall breaking punch right here.

Superman has also tanked a punch without budging from Lobo. DC must consider the 4th wall as not that great or the hero's that has endured said attacks as having untold durability. Either is laughable at best tbh.

Right, right, and Flash always runs at FTL speeds, and Hulk has gone WBH in every comic he has, right?

IOW, the fact you didn't read just shows that you're scared of stepping up, and secretly agree.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Right, right, and Flash always runs at FTL speeds, and Hulk has gone WBH in every comic he has, right?

IOW, the fact you didn't read just shows that you're scared of stepping up, and secretly agree.

Your posts are absurd. I dont even think you are serious tbh. Like I've said before, I wouldn't give Lobo the edge against any top tier, no matter his looney toon fts. You can continue to bring up the 4th wall if you want but that doesn't change the fact that Hulk is 'obviously' stronger.

The Sorrow
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I also have Lobo 4th wall combat showings, which are far in excess of what Deadpool has (he doesn't directly influence the comic in the same way). She-Hulk, if given her 4th wall powers, would also stomp Hulk.

Did it happen? Yes.
In a canon comic? Yes.
Do they fight to the best of their abilities? Yes.

One of Lobo's abilities is 4th wall breaking. Even if you disregard his 'high end' showings, there is a world of difference between 'ignoring high end feats' and 'ignoring abilities'. They are two different things. It's like using Aquaman - but not allowing his TP. That is VERY different from allowing his high end TP feats, agreed?

Then under forum rules, they are admissible.

@Sorrow: Sorry, I missed the forum rule which said which powers were and were not valid. I can see Thought Robot Cosmic Armour Superman threads, and Ultra threads, though. But point me to the page where we list what abilities are and are not allowed.

Weakness: Puppies.
No there is ignoring the ridiculous. This is a REAL battle forum there is no 4th wall to break so it's moot what Lobo, She-Hulk etc have done.

Puppies aren't Hulks weakness, it happened once to a dumb Hulk who wasn't even fighting at the time. I also doubt Lobo walks around with a dozen puppies in his back pocket, neither is it common knowledge for that to work.

carver9
Originally posted by The Sorrow
No there is ignoring the ridiculous. This is a REAL battle forum there is no 4th wall to break so it's moot what Lobo, She-Hulk etc have done.

Puppies aren't Hulks weakness, it happened once to a dumb Hulk who wasn't even fighting at the time. I also doubt Lobo walks around with a dozen puppies in his back pocket, neither is it common knowledge for that to work.

laughing out loud

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Your posts are absurd. I dont even think you are serious tbh. Like I've said before, I wouldn't give Lobo the edge against any top tier, no matter his looney toon fts. You can continue to bring up the 4th wall if you want but that doesn't change the fact that Hulk is 'obviously' stronger.

Stronger: Hulk, for sure, dependent on the Hulk incarnation. More often than not, Hulk.
Durable: Hulk, depending on the Hulk.
HF: Lobo
Speed: Equal, slight edge if any to Hulk. But wouldn't bet against either.
Intelligence: depends, obv, on the Hulk incarnation. More often than not, Lobo.
Cunning: as above.
Fighting skill: Equal (both brawlers)
Other abilities: Lobo. And this is where things get difficult for the Hulk. I am NOT saying that the character with a more varied powerset = autowin; it depends on WHAT those abilities are.

Just because Hulk is stronger, and the strongest there is - does not mean he automatically wins a fight. Full Capacity rule still applies - and to quote the rule 'this means they will use any powers at their disposal'.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Stronger: Hulk, for sure, dependent on the Hulk incarnation. More often than not, Hulk.
Durable: Hulk, depending on the Hulk.
HF: Lobo
Speed: Equal, slight edge if any to Hulk. But wouldn't bet against either.
Intelligence: depends, obv, on the Hulk incarnation. More often than not, Lobo.
Cunning: as above.
Fighting skill: Equal (both brawlers)
Other abilities: Lobo. And this is where things get difficult for the Hulk. I am NOT saying that the character with a more varied powerset = autowin; it depends on WHAT those abilities are.

Just because Hulk is stronger, and the strongest there is - does not mean he automatically wins a fight. Full Capacity rule still applies - and to quote the rule 'this means they will use any powers at their disposal'.


Would Lobo or Hulk fight in character?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by The Sorrow
No there is ignoring the ridiculous. This is a REAL battle forum there is no 4th wall to break so it's moot what Lobo, She-Hulk etc have done.

Puppies aren't Hulks weakness, it happened once to a dumb Hulk who wasn't even fighting at the time. I also doubt Lobo walks around with a dozen puppies in his back pocket, neither is it common knowledge for that to work.

Common knowledge?

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Lobo/loboinfo.jpg
See item 1. INSTANTLY analyse and find their weak spot.

Now it being used in a comic:
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Lobo/lobosenses.jpg

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Would Lobo or Hulk fight in character?

They both would. Hulk doesn't go WBH at the drop of a hat, and in character, Lobo cheats, and does whatever he can to win. Hulk does not kill, and is constantly running the gamma maths. Lobo will not harm dolphins. All in character.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Common knowledge?

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Lobo/loboinfo.jpg
See item 1. INSTANTLY analyse and find their weak spot.

Now it being used in a comic:
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Lobo/lobosenses.jpg


Where was it being used and where would he get the puppies from in a featureless environment?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Where was it being used and where would he get the puppies from in a featureless environment?

Where does it say featureless environment?

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
They both would. Hulk doesn't go WBH at the drop of a hat, and in character, Lobo cheats, and does whatever he can to win. Hulk does not kill, and is constantly running the gamma maths. Lobo will not harm dolphins. All in character.

So in character Lobo goes around 4th walling everyone? Are you sure about this?

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Where does it say featureless environment?

So how does Lobo get ahold of these puppies and would that trick even work while Hulk is in a fight? When would Lobo even have the time to grab a puppy. Hulk is one of the most pressing character in comic.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
So in character Lobo goes around 4th walling everyone? Are you sure about this?

*sigh*

You are mixing terminologies again.

Let me put it like this.

Does Martian Manhunter use his TP in every fight? No. He does not. But in a forum fight, am I allowed to suddenly say, nah, MM won't use TP, look, here's a fight where he doesn't use it. And here. And here. Etc?

Or, Hyperion and his eye blasts. Does he use it in EVERY fight? No. He has used it more than once, for sure, and so, in a forum fight, it's applicable.

Same with Flash, and the IMP. He's used it...what, twice? Three times, MAYBE, pre-Flashpoint? But yet, if I was to say he IMPs, nobody here would be challenging me.

Reed has used his anti-Celestial gun ONCE. If I was to make a thread where Reed can prep and use his lab....guess what, SOMEONE will bring it up.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
So how does Lobo get ahold of these puppies and would that trick even work while Hulk is in a fight? When would Lobo even have the time to grab a puppy. Hulk is one of the most pressing character in comic.

When his arm gets ripped off. That arm can operate independently. Or his bike (which can also operate independently).

Face it, you can't win here lol.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
*sigh*

You are mixing terminologies again.

Let me put it like this.

Does Martian Manhunter use his TP in every fight? No. He does not. But in a forum fight, am I allowed to suddenly say, nah, MM won't use TP, look, here's a fight where he doesn't use it. And here. And here. Etc?

Or, Hyperion and his eye blasts. Does he use it in EVERY fight? No. He has used it more than once, for sure, and so, in a forum fight, it's applicable.

Same with Flash, and the IMP. He's used it...what, twice? Three times, MAYBE, pre-Flashpoint? But yet, if I was to say he IMPs, nobody here would be challenging me.

Reed has used his anti-Celestial gun ONCE. If I was to make a thread where Reed can prep and use his lab....guess what, SOMEONE will bring it up.

no expression

How many times has Lobo 4th walled someone? MM has TP attacked someone enough times for it to be used as a norm for the character. What about Lobo? Is this a one time deal?

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
When his arm gets ripped off. That arm can operate independently. Or his bike (which can also operate independently).

Face it, you can't win here lol.

Ok. The arm brings a puppy back to Lobo while he is getting pounded to a pulp by Hulk. What then?

bluewaterrider
Originally posted by DarkSaint85




See item 1. INSTANTLY analyse and find their weak spot.




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DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
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How many times has Lobo 4th walled someone? MM has TP attacked someone enough times for it to be used as a norm for the character. What about Lobo? Is this a one time deal?

GLAD YOU ASKED

Lobo breaks the 4th wall:

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/...allbreaking.jpg
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/...efourthwall.jpg

Lobo beats up his writer:

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/...llbreaking1.jpg

Threatens a DC comics employee:

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/...llbreaking2.jpg

Lobo can write himself without a writer:

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/...thwallpower.jpg

Lobo goes beyond breaking the 4th wall and actually controls his own writer:

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/...trolswriter.jpg
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/...rolswriter1.jpg

Considering how niche a character Lobo is (nowhere near the number of appearances Reed or the Flash has, for example), that's a fair few instances.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
GLAD YOU ASKED

Lobo breaks the 4th wall:

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/...allbreaking.jpg
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/...efourthwall.jpg

Lobo beats up his writer:

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/...llbreaking1.jpg

Threatens a DC comics employee:

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/...llbreaking2.jpg

Lobo can write himself without a writer:

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/...thwallpower.jpg

Lobo goes beyond breaking the 4th wall and actually controls his own writer:

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/...trolswriter.jpg
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/...rolswriter1.jpg

Considering how niche a character Lobo is (nowhere near the number of appearances Reed or the Flash has, for example), that's a fair few instances.

In this fight you're telling me Lobo is going to rewrite the fight or break the 4th wall or whatever, to pull the win here? In your opinion, who could beat Lobo? What tier does it end to get the majority against this character?

abhilegend
Hulk wins.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
In this fight you're telling me Lobo is going to rewrite the fight or break the 4th wall or whatever, to pull the win here? In your opinion, who could beat Lobo? What tier does it end to get the majority against this character?

It's one of his options, sure. He could also just choke Hulk out, who still needs to breathe.

I am sure you are itching to showcase Hulk not needing to breathe - how often does this happen, though? Over the past 50 or so years of Hulk's history? Yet, I am 100% sure if I was to say 'XXX drowns Hulk'you'd be all up in my face with scan dumps. But how often has he done this?

In my opinion, full powers? She-Hulk could take him. Doop. Maybe Animal Man.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's one of his options, sure. He could also just choke Hulk out, who still needs to breathe.

I am sure you are itching to showcase Hulk not needing to breathe - how often does this happen, though? Over the past 50 or so years of Hulk's history? Yet, I am 100% sure if I was to say 'XXX drowns Hulk'you'd be all up in my face with scan dumps. But how often has he done this?

In my opinion, full powers? She-Hulk could take him. Doop. Maybe Animal Man.

How could She Hulk beat him?

DarkSaint85
Her scope of 4th wall breaking was higher. She tore the comic page up and burned it, which is beyond what Lobo did. If he gets a chance to influence the writer, sure.

Same with Animal Man. He shrunk the comic panels around Overman, which wouldn't give Lobo the chance to influence the outcome.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Her scope of 4th wall breaking was higher. She tore the comic page up and burned it, which is beyond what Lobo did. If he gets a chance to influence the writer, sure.

Same with Animal Man. He shrunk the comic panels around Overman, which wouldn't give Lobo the chance to influence the outcome.

But Hulk has defeated She Hulk though. Hell, Grey Hulk has curbed her. Was she holding back against Hulk?

DarkSaint85
Its a comic. Next, you'll be telling me everytime Hulk gets over powered, his 'abstract level strength' was being over powered..

And every time Flash gets tagged, its by faster characters.

Superman NEVER beats people stronger than himself.

Hmmmm let's see, what else. Hulk has beaten Thor. Yet Thor has rocked Galactus before. That means Hulk beats Galactus. Yes, I see how your logic works now.

Galan007
Hulk also beat Sentry, who stalemated Galactus. Therefore, Hulk>Galactus.

Things are looking up for Hulk. thumb up

abhilegend
Rulk should be Eternity level then.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Its a comic. Next, you'll be telling me everytime Hulk gets over powered, his 'abstract level strength' was being over powered..

And every time Flash gets tagged, its by faster characters.

Superman NEVER beats people stronger than himself.

Hmmmm let's see, what else. Hulk has beaten Thor. Yet Thor has rocked Galactus before. That means Hulk beats Galactus. Yes, I see how your logic works now.

Not what I am saying. What I am asking you is, where does these 4th wall showings coming into play during combat? When Lobo fight top tiers, things doesn't go the way you are saying they do which is my point. You can try to avoid his fights against upper tier beings but people like Hulk, Thor, and Superman would still curb him.

DarkSaint85
Where was Hulk's famed 'return from BFR' ability when he's been sent away? Yet I'm sure if BFR was turned on, and I said LoBo BFRs him, you'd show the same tired 2/3 scans. Which is a poor showing considering the 1000s of appearances Hulk has had.

Same concept. Unless you're saying Lobo's abilities only manifest when he's fighting lower tier characters..which i would therefore call PIS. Imagine if in the middle of Action Comics Lobo suddenly broke the 4th wall. It would be out of place, because Action Comics isn't that.

Galan007
Originally posted by abhilegend
Rulk should be Eternity level then. thumb up

Rulk wipes his ass with that green piece of toilet paper.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Where was Hulk's famed 'return from BFR' ability when he's been sent away? Yet I'm sure if BFR was turned on, and I said LoBo BFRs him, you'd show the same tired 2/3 scans. Which is a poor showing considering the 1000s of appearances Hulk has had.

Same concept. Unless you're saying Lobo's abilities only manifest when he's fighting lower tier characters..which i would therefore call PIS. Imagine if in the middle of Action Comics Lobo suddenly broke the 4th wall. It would be out of place, because Action Comics isn't that.

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Point me in the direction where I said Hulk couldn't be bfred. I don't debate like that.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Galan007
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Rulk wipes his ass with that green piece of toilet paper.
Yeah, my bad. Maybe Rulk is the actual villain of the secret wars even more powerful than beyonders.

mmm

carver9
Hulk stomps

DarkSaint85
Hulk wins, if we neuter Lobo down and remove several of his abilities and allow Hulk to win.

But the main man doesn't allow that!

Lobo wins.

Zack M
Lobo.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hulk wins, if we neuter Lobo down and remove several of his abilities and allow Hulk to win.

But the main man doesn't allow that!

Lobo wins.

So just do what Marvel will do to their ENTIRE UNIVERSE of Characters to make the Big Lima Bean look good?

Gotchya.

qwertyuiop1998
Bump, too bad the Lobo Vs Immortal Hulk thread got closed

Stoic
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hulk wins, if we neuter Lobo down and remove several of his abilities and allow Hulk to win.

But the main man doesn't allow that!

Lobo wins.

Would Lobo defeat Doomsday? I mean, how far does this go exactly? Are we talking full cap for both, or one? Fully unleashed, the Hulk is packing far more power than Doomsday. If we are talking about an in control Hulk versus all of the zany shit that Lobo can muster, then you are correct, Lobo would win. Just not against a fully unleashed Hulk like the Green Scar.

DarkSaint85
Then you should use a fully unleashed Lobo, to be fair.

carver9
Hulk, easily

Senor Cage
Lobo smash!

MrMind
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk, easily

based on?

carver9
His fts. Hulk takes on teams and is a bonified team wrecker. Teams that consists of high tier Heralds. This is a non-fight.

MrMind
Originally posted by carver9
His fts. Hulk takes on teams and is a bonified team wrecker. Teams that consists of high tier Heralds. This is a non-fight.

teams like?

carver9
The Avengers. Why do you think Lobo would win?

DarkSaint85
Carvy, where are you in the DBZ and the lowest showings thread? Have I scared you off??

MrMind
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carvy, where are you in the DBZ and the lowest showings thread? Have I scared you off??

you need to stop playing with your food you god damn psycho

DarkSaint85
The fear flavours the meat.

Senor Cage
Originally posted by carver9
The Avengers. Why do you think Lobo would win?

Lobo has taken on numerous teams too

carver9
Dark, you struggled to find someone who could best the weakest version of Goku. I can only imagine the struggle if I upped him or any other DB character by just a little.

qwertyuiop1998
Aquarian?

DarkSaint85
Struggled?

I really doubt that. I got you arguing for days/pages, then trapped you with Aquarian.

Edit: I note you ran from the lowest showings thread laughing out loud

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